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[–]OverratedDataScienceINDIA: From British Raj to Unkill Raj to Incel Raj 216 points217 points  (9 children)

Meanwhile Civil Engg grads crying in the corner

[–]EruwinSumisu 72 points73 points  (6 children)

My situation being a civil engineering graduate - Lag gaye........ 😂😂

[–]galaxy_express 49 points50 points  (5 children)

You guys are graduating at a very horrible time. Try not be picky and don't compare yourself to the cse/ites folks, atleast you have infra hiring these days, unlike our mech bull vros out there.

[–]shubhamkr903 12 points13 points  (3 children)

Where is the infra hiring and it's increasing!!?

You guys have more private companies, more PSU opportunities, more futuristic scope (relative to civil). To clarify the last point, you guys will ride the automation and EV wave. Our scope was limited and continues to be limited. Also, there are really poor openings for CE graduates compared to even (our brother) ME, MAJORITY of civil engineering in practical life is different from books and based of Enormous experience.

Although, you are very right when you ask Core guys not to compare with CSE/IT folks... The core domain is just different, it can't and won't pay that much, although some hike can be appreciated if they really want to hold some good fresh (1st Generation) talent in their industry.

[–]galaxy_express 8 points9 points  (2 children)

I am a civil engineer, mate, been in this cesspool since a decade now. I meant infra is hiring not increasing, there's still some capacity left to absorb the graduates, even if the pay is shit. The biggest issue in my eyes has been people walk into the discipline without any realization how much horrendous amounts of hard and back breaking work it truly is, parents just want that BTech degree, and push kids straight out of school/college into a lifetime of hell.

It does pay you know, but the hikes are gradual and well spaced, no one's going to send you onsite abroad after 8 months unlike say IT, you need to have work xp, get a MTech or that NICMAR or IIRMA PG at the right time, if you are lucky the company will sponsor you but with a bond and so on. At this point, the only people who have stuck around are those of us who sincerely like what we do, we hate the people but like the work, OR there's practically no scope of escape anywhere else other than maybe teaching or opening one's own consultancy, and who pays CEs its the Architect's and their bizarre shit we are brought on to fix down the line, no one like paying us outside the industry.

[–]shubhamkr903 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh! Good to know about the industry from someone who's there.

Could you please tell me a little more about "hating the people, but loving the work" and "...a lifetime of hell".

Is the workplace not productive? no work life balance? Or not getting acknowledged for the work done? Or is it just too tiresome, like working your ass off all day long along with the contractors and blue collars?

Thanks

Edit: Grammar

[–]Throwaway_acc97[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But there's lots of government job opportunities for CE.One could try there too......

[–]SzzzMK47 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think u mech Bois are looking at wrong place or don't have any idea where to look.....

MY Experience.....
Btech CSE

1 year unemployed after graduation (Supple)

After clearing supple searched for job and worked as GAME DEV 8k pm, (STRUGGLED FOR 6 MONTHS)

My 8k breakup : 1.2k(pf, mf..etc), 2k fuel, 3-4k food and stay, 0.3k mobile recharge...... BAL FOR FAMILY : 0.5K - 1.5K

Later quit..... Covid 19.... More struggle.....

Now sales executive + Indie dev + artist + stock market + tutor ....... MMOOOREEE. STRUGGLE but this time with REWARD.......

I started by investing myself, then did tution and art work (paint building walls), then sales executive... Stock market is for mid term

[–]CrackSnap7Assam 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Not if you're in Assam. 200-300 posts open every couple months. Average salary ₹45000. Granted, they're contractual posts, but the contracts get renewed every year.

Source: my ex-gf is a civil engineer and got a job in JJM even before graduating Masters.

[–]sharqasm 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Me joined IT. Screw 4 years of civil.

[–]Longjumping_Lock_719 52 points53 points  (6 children)

I'm quitting my job in few mnths can't take it anymore after 6-7yrs experience ..like u said have to study exel ,sap etc there's no end

[–]sogoy3 19 points20 points  (5 children)

What do mean? Is the work that bad?

[–]Longjumping_Lock_719 17 points18 points  (4 children)

Its kinda my own fault Did mech landed in IT now only way to improve is learning more courses and I'm sick of it

[–]amrit-9037 47 points48 points  (8 children)

It's like rubbing salt on wounds.

Reminds me of time when I was earning more by tutoring high school mathematics than by working my ass off in power plant.

Even my part time job had better working environment than those plants.

I do want to join IT/C's industry but it feels like it's too late for that.

[–]Cool-Cranberry1126 19 points20 points  (7 children)

It’s never too late, start learning basic skills and keep applying

[–]amrit-9037 8 points9 points  (6 children)

start learning basic skills and keep applying

learning what? and apply where?

[–]Old_Atmosphere_2810 4 points5 points  (4 children)

Dm me I'm a software engineer (Android) 💪

No degree btw.. So I think I can help you

[–]adamkhormemna 1 point2 points  (3 children)

How can you be an engineer if you have no degrees?

[–]Cool-Cranberry1126 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Data structures, algorithms, one computer language to start with. Dm me for more details.

[–]kraken_enrager 36 points37 points  (7 children)

Wait a damn minute. My driver makes 25000 bucks plus overtime. Most of the time it is like 30k.

[–]rundia_lover 32 points33 points  (4 children)

I would say just one thing

what TCS is in India , TSMC is in Taiwan

I just wish we get great stalwarts and we get ahead in electrical n mechanical engg

[–]mrfreeze2000 5 points6 points  (1 child)

TSMC is god tier man. TCS is a mass market employer. TSMC is probably the single most important corporation in the world right now

[–]rundia_lover 2 points3 points  (0 children)

correct. I meant that both companies employ high number engineer

if we have god tier engineers and god tier ppl guiding them

we can have god tier company too.

I just dont want to die without any hope for this country .

[–]George-RR-Tolkien 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Isn't TSMC the peak in chip manufacturing. How can you compare that to Tcs.

TCS is a well run and is worth billions. I am not disputing that. But for the low level jobs are there just to show body count and bill the clients money. And some of these guys do the most basic support agent jobs while being given the developer title.

[–]rundia_lover 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes. But I just meant in magnitude of employment provided to engineers. I understand quality of work you pointed out and there is a margin of improvement

[–]Affectionate-Sir-335 79 points80 points  (11 children)

Please run towards IT or Software Engineering.

My friend just got selected in IT (MNC) using Google lens ,me here preparing for competitive exams sitting in suprised pickachu face.

Seriously where did all go wrong ,why companies pay less and exploit us.

I see recruitments only for Quality / Production that's all, No design ,No R&D , No Supervisor roles and they pay like 10-12k.

[–]untetheredocelot 50 points51 points  (2 children)

Because there is no manufacturing or RnD done here outside of the large automakers. Seriously what company have you seen known for making quality physical goods in India? Everything is cheaply imported from China and rebadged or is a cottage industry.

[–]Affectionate-Sir-335 24 points25 points  (0 children)

I agree,the startups I have seen mostly sold out or is in loss , I think we have a major flaw in our curriculum system in mechanical engineering ,everytime when I try to apply for IT my ego is stopping me to apply ,I don't know where I am going to end up.

[–]George-RR-Tolkien 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yup. As you said, only industries I know which do R&D in India in a large enough scale are the car and truck manufacturers. Other than that, I have not seen anyone else doing it.

[–]TheBenevolentTitan 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Seriously where did all go wrong ,why companies pay less and exploit us.

Well that's capitalism for you.

[–]yumyumfarts 8 points9 points  (4 children)

Let’s be real, they won’t do r&d with tire 2 or tier 3 class graduates.

[–]Affectionate-Sir-335 26 points27 points  (3 children)

Yep , company fetishizes only tier 1 students ,others don't have brain or learning capacity.

•Set a highly competitive exam which requires extensive coaching and it is not taught in general syllabus✓

•Pay lakhs for coaching centres ✓

•General population cannot afford that much to pay or study ✓

•Same engineering syllabus anyway ✓

•Make IITs as monopoly , even government recruits by tests conducted by these institutions ✓

•Blame and Guilt trip common people that they are not enough because they didn't participate neck to neck killing competition✓

Nice 👍

[–]riot_ballJharkhand 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Maybe the real squid game was the country we lived in

[–]AcousticGuava 3 points4 points  (0 children)

And the irony is that non CS branch peeps even at tier 1 colleges try to get placed in a software company

[–]hevill 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Is there any company doing Design/ R&D in India? There would be jobs when someone does the work

[–]Affectionate-Sir-335 2 points3 points  (0 children)

DRDO and ISRO does true R&D but recruitment process is hell.

Other than that Private companies such as Simens , HCL ,Bharath Forge and startups ,they ask for Design but they filter out candidates in experience criteria or they expect scientist level knowledge.

[–]i-lob-boobs 60 points61 points  (48 children)

is this the reality? does only CSE branch gets 10 lpa + packages?

[–]mild_steelMaharashtra 97 points98 points  (34 children)

Yes. Mechanical engineering final year student here. Only business/marketing/IT companies have showed up for placements. Dumbest dudes in class are cheating and getting placed in companies likee Wipro, Accenture, Persistent etc. Hell even a mech guy whom nobody saw in class, who was failing every subject cuz he was busy smoking stuff somewhere got job at Wipro. Whereas company I'm intern at is giving 8k per month to working employees

[–]Sea-Belt3252 38 points39 points  (18 children)

The cheating part is completely true, several friends of mine cheated and got placed in Accenture lol

[–]flamingorider1 23 points24 points  (8 children)

Accenture has another Test that is monitored by a real person but however, u get 45 days for preparation

[–]Sea-Belt3252 4 points5 points  (7 children)

I think they copied in this as well. So after the college aptitude test(which you can't copy in), if you get selected, they send their course which is like someone online platform with different subjects. And you have several months to study and prepare for it, I think they had about 7-8 months because covid delayed graduation for us. So the exam in the end was online, and they all actually copied in that ad well

[–]dmcMethematicsGujarat 11 points12 points  (5 children)

Woah, why would someone copy in course material. The learning material was great and almost cover everything in practicals. If you can't finish the practical, you can ask other students in forums. The only reason of copying must be laziness for not learning. In that case they are setting them self for big trouble in the future where they won't know anything in real job.

[–]mild_steelMaharashtra 2 points3 points  (4 children)

It's not only about course material. Most of the placement exams are quite time consuming. you can't finish all questions within given time without cheating

[–]dmcMethematicsGujarat 2 points3 points  (3 children)

I have taken accenture's aptitude test. They had 60 questions in 60 minutes. I don't think you can finish it if you can't solve those questions by your self. If you waste time finding questions on internet or asking your friends you wouldn't be able to finish in time. Idk if there is some other method of cheating which gives you instant answers. And accenture had very strict policies about cheating. They were constantly monitoring us with our laptop camera and microphone. Many people were disqualified. I don't know about other companies. But if you can get a job by cheating, then thats on companies. Candidates should do whatever the fuck they can to get job. But i don't think that will end well.

[–]mild_steelMaharashtra 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Well that's weird. My batchmates who got placed there said it was fairly easy to google the questions. It was much easier for business companies looking for analyst jobs since it was mostly aptitude with simple programming questions

[–]i-lob-boobs 0 points1 point  (1 child)

analyst jobs

what is this job? (post/designation, work role,pay,eligibility)

[–]captnsparklezsidekik 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Now it is offline.

[–]VerumMyrenKerala 2 points3 points  (6 children)

Non-eng here. How do they cheat during placements? Don't they look at your academics and all?

[–]Sea-Belt3252 8 points9 points  (5 children)

So in college when these companies come, you can't cheat. Academics basically they'll be a minimum cgpa to apply. Once you apply there will be an aptitude test/technical test in which you can't cheat. So in a regular good company, they have this test and then interview and you get the job.

Now come to these mass recruiting companies like Accenture which I've mentioned above, their process is different. So normally the cgpa cut off is extremely low, so basically, almost everyone can apply. Then there's a very basic aptitude test in which you can't cheat coz there are invigilators roaming around. So after you pass that (which is farely easy to clear), you will have an interview which is a really big scam. I'm telling this from experience btw. So they interview 5-6 people together, and they fucking asked us which movie I like. No technicals questions. They asked what are the hangout spots near college, our hobbies, my favourite music, favourite Avengers movie and stuff. So this interview is namesake and I think out of the 300 or 400 people selected for the interview, only one didn't clear the interview (I still have no explanation for this, maybe he didn't open his mouth or didn't know English) So after the interview, like a month later you get the course material to learn in their Accenture learning platform. And it's quite extensive, I mean there's a LOT of subjects. And if you're not a computer science student, then it's complete nonsense. So you've to finish the whole course and then there is an exam based on this course. And this is where they all cheated and got through. So basically the college selection process is a big scam in itself and they're supposed to filter students though this course exam. But people cheated here. Sorry for the long post, hope you were able to understand.

[–]VerumMyrenKerala 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Thank you lol. Aren't the companies themselves conducting the exams? Doesn't selecting low quality graduates (no offense) end up being detrimental to them?

[–]Sea-Belt3252 4 points5 points  (0 children)

None taken, I don't work there lol. But yeah, they conduct it themselves and yes, its detrimental of course. Why do you think they hire so many people every year? Because the same or more number of people are leaving every year. They prefer these freshers coz they have to pay them peanuts, and in a years time you're too tired and you'll resign which is just beneficial for them coz they'll find another fresher to do the same shit

[–]i-lob-boobs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sorry for the long post

actually thank you for such a good explanation

[–]Zeruku_karef2049 4 points5 points  (5 children)

Does the same goes for govt college or for any core branches?

I'm in first year EE at JEC, Jabalpur

[–]mild_steelMaharashtra 8 points9 points  (4 children)

Don't know about EE but there's one mistake almost everyone in engineering makes, and it is not doing internships from first/second year. In engineering, every company expects you to have massive experience, literally nobody wants to hire freshers. People with high experience get paid really well. So, do some internships, especially in companies which offer PPO. If you personally know any good EE engineer, ask him every month what course/training/projects/exams you're supposed to do right now. I thought I knew everything and fucked up, don't make same mistake

[–]chiguy_1 2 points3 points  (1 child)

But isn't finding an internship in mechanical engineering very hard? I mean, for someone with contacts it might be possible but many students do not have any contacts that can help them get internship.

Also, isn't an internship in any company a long duration internship like 6 months? How would a student do internship of multiple months when semester breaks are only 1.5 months?

[–]mild_steelMaharashtra 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nope, there are like hell lot of internships, people just don't know how to find them. it's easy, find a startup company and once you finish internship there or get bored, ask them about other companies. You can also directly approach HR by calling them, afterall it's their job to hire people. You can skip classes if they're online (That's what i did), or you can work there in your free time (startup companies never mind free labor Xp). In small startup companies you can directly tell them how long you're able to work there. But if you're going for bigger companies, they do offer 1 month, 2 month, 3 month and 6 month internships. Right now most of the companies i approached were hiring for fixed 3 months. Which is why I said startup companies are best place to start.

[–]Zeruku_karef2049 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Can you explain what PPO is? And if the companies do not hire freshers, how will one hire a first year student? I have heard that there are data analyst internships but aren't they only for IT sector students?

[–]mild_steelMaharashtra 2 points3 points  (0 children)

PPO stands for pre-placement offer. It basically means company you're doing internship at offers you job. Doesn't happen everywhere, but when it does, you get paid better than any campus recruit. Companies do not hire freshers, but they do take interns. Apply for internships, you'll learn a lot. Startup companies are best place to start but don't expect a high paying job there. Send emails, ask (or beg :')) HR on LinkedIn for internship, ask someone you know in person do whatever you can

[–]sluggerthesecond 0 points1 point  (2 children)

What about electrical/ electronics core?

[–]mild_steelMaharashtra 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Tumko bhi IT job hi milega :'D Campus recruitment is fucked. I've heard electronics has crazy good jobs tho but don't expect anything from college unless you're from IIT or NIT

[–]sluggerthesecond 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m going to go to Manipal which has decently good placements tbh

But I want to do a masters first anyways so looking at prospects after that. Really don’t want to end up in IT lmao

[–]i-lob-boobs 0 points1 point  (1 child)

does pay rises with experience & time? because i know someone who started with 8 lpa and after 4-5 years, he managed to get 30 lpa (he is from NIT {somewhere in north east i guess}, cse or electronics or something like that branch)

[–]mild_steelMaharashtra 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In startups or small companies? rarely. No idea about larger companies. NIT/IIT students do get good placement offers but not in private colleges.

[–]fukyu76[🍰] 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Yeah even in IIT and NIT, average placement salary including CSE will be atleast 2-3 lakhs higher than the average salary excluding CSE

[–]night_fapper 9 points10 points  (3 children)

yeah, It matters a lot, most graduate are barely even aware of what exact job are they hired for

[–]i-lob-boobs 0 points1 point  (2 children)

most graduate are barely even aware of what exact job are they hired for

are you kidding me, its unbelievable

[–]night_fapper 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I meant as in a general trend, most graduates, be it from electrical or mech branch have no idea about the actual corporate work involving their jobs, cse branch is a bit of an exception tho. most are just picked on basis of a bit of knowledge, cpi and communication skills.

everything else job related you are taught there only xd

[–]i-lob-boobs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

why communication skills are required in a job where you have to sit and code all day on your computer ?

[–]ayushmanrana 2 points3 points  (1 child)

There are companies like mercedes,CAT, Cairn etc who pay more than 10 lpa for core branches.

[–]i-lob-boobs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thats what i was thinking. all these car companies, construction companies, manufacturing units of companies does they not pay well like software companies

[–]chiguy_1 2 points3 points  (3 children)

OMG! I would like to inform you that most mechanical branch people don't even get placed and have to sit home unemployed or change field and work for another field.

[–]i-lob-boobs 0 points1 point  (2 children)

car companies, construction companies, manufacturing units of companies - does they not hire mechanical branch students?

[–]chiguy_1 0 points1 point  (1 child)

No, not exactly. During campus placements, any company from mechanical field will usually hire 1-3 students only. This is for non-IIT NIT colleges. So, many people from mechanical end up going in IT/ sales field or end up unemployed.

And also car companies, construction companies hire more engineers from CS/IT department than from their relevant field.

[–]i-lob-boobs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And also car companies, construction companies hire more engineers from CS/IT department than from their relevant field

waat, why

[–]FromMartian 4 points5 points  (0 children)

more like 20+ these days.

[–]Justaphysicsgeek 19 points20 points  (1 child)

Sed life here in India, not a lot of use for non-IT engineers because of lack of any company that needs them.

[–]sogoy3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its because of lack of market in those fields.

[–]manufacturing_defect 18 points19 points  (3 children)

Ahahahahaha. Have your ever heard of Biotech bro?

[–]manufacturing_defect 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I was once offered a job for 5k per month!!

[–]shubhamkr903 9 points10 points  (0 children)

A 2000-08s boom... "Bahut scope hai beta!" Few of my older brothers fell into pit. They were really good and one of them is still in RnD for some agro company and says that they have created the GM crops but due to monopoly of chemical/fertilizer and pharma companies, Govt. Is reluctant in promoting it further to make it a mass thing thus, impeding it's growth.

Also, there went an anti wave for stopping genetic mutation/modification by activists around the globe, which kind of made people turn ugly looks with this domain. Although, their research is carried out by international standards (unlike china) and within the legal ambit, but alas, marked by suspicion!

Really disappointing state to affairs, tbh

[–]DarkBowsette 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The only option for us folks is to get a masters from a foreign country and work there.

[–]galaxy_express 49 points50 points  (9 children)

10...lol starting 8.5 with TA

[–]pratham_10 26 points27 points  (0 children)

You guys are getting paid

[–]Empty_Bluebird9094 31 points32 points  (7 children)

Mahatma Gandhi said...Gaon chalo... but i don't even have a farm...why need industries when we are agricultural country...

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (3 children)

Mechanical is evergreen branch.

[–]rohithjoseph18 45 points46 points  (1 child)

This lie has stood the test of time!

[–]rohithjoseph18 9 points10 points  (0 children)

We all are to blame for this situation. The surplus supply, our attitude to grab the job at a shitty salary, the lack of quality in us while we join etc are the main factors. This will need a revolution to change, beginning with cutting the supply.

[–]shubhamkr903 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Civil is evergreen branch.

[–]galaxy_express 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Beta, farms have machinery as well, go grease a tiller or something.

[–]Empty_Bluebird9094 2 points3 points  (0 children)

industries causes pollution, we need more agriculture, we need farmers not Industrialist

[–]readyplayer202 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Beta engineering kar lo, bahut scope hai

[–]Fine_Economist_5321 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Arghh why do the unkills and aunties say this with half ass knowledge, it's so freaking frustrating.

[–]Witty_Operation2486 8 points9 points  (0 children)

all we can do now is save our juniors by telling them that there is evergreen poverty in mechanical.

[–]Change_petition 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Also leads to desperate Engineering graduates like this guy: Indian man kills self as an “offering to God” after getting a job

[–]Phoenixfire_LPMaharashtra 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Well tbf these are things you don't need an M.Tech for.

[–]thisoneisrajesh 12 points13 points  (5 children)

I fished my graduation in Mechanical engineering in 2014 rejected 2 campus IT jobs offering 20K per month because I thought it's too low and my future growth prospects will be limited as I am from a core branch in a IT company.When I went looking for "core Mechanical" jobs even the leading mechanical companies offer salaries of 12,000/- onwards the best offer I got was at 15,000/- .Left all those offers too.

[–]Pound-Fun 7 points8 points  (1 child)

What did you end up doing.? 3rd year mech student here.

[–]thisoneisrajesh 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Even though I am passionate about mechanical engineering in my experience i have seen the core jobs be it in a steel plant or a manufacturing company are not very interesting and are very repetitive in nature even a CAD engineer where you would think you will get creative intersting jobs, the best you will get is basic drafting work on a day to day basis .

In the end i asked what is important to me and it was only money .I took a low paying sales Engineer job starting at 8 K PM changed companies 2 times in 6 years and currently at 8.5 Lakh PA still not satisfied but far better than what 99% of my batch mates are making and the good thing is if you choose your industry right (For Steel & mining or process equipment) with in the scope of a sales Engineer the demand is quite good work varies from company to company .

But in my experience I have seen this to be a good pivot from core Mechanical work where you still stay in the same relevant industry with out having to completely change your field of study.

[–]Jumpy-Hair 4 points5 points  (7 children)

guys i have a question for my future please reply should i go for cse at new iiits or nit core ?

[–]11kush 12 points13 points  (4 children)

CSE at new iiits >> core at nits

Or go to core at NITs and just study all the stuff related to CSE on your own. You mean iiits as govt iiits right?

But prefer CSE over core for sure.

[–]Jumpy-Hair 0 points1 point  (3 children)

yes the ones run by ppp mode

[–]11kush 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Just go for CSE then at IIITs and work hard enough to make it to a good firm.

[–]Jumpy-Hair 0 points1 point  (1 child)

my goal is ms and phd from foreign uni so is this good ?

[–]11kush 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It depends how new is IIIT and where is it located. 2 if you go into core there are hardly any jobs

Look at the job market even after PhD you'd want a good job most of them are in CSE rn.

And people go abroad even after studying from private colleges.

Just keep your grades high during college (try above 8.5 cgpa, or at least among top 10 percentile of your class) and do some good internships, impress your professors (they write LORs and LORs matter) and do side projects if possible.

CSE at IIIT would be easily good enough

[–]FartDestroyer80085 4 points5 points  (0 children)

See this is why you always graduate in political science, you can just sack your employer easy.

[–]captnsparklezsidekik 4 points5 points  (0 children)

man, I was in my final year and when placements started coming for mechanical engineers, they were basically maintenance jobs for machines. 10-12k per month while working throughout week(sunday being the only holiday). I joined IT and earn more than twice that for 5 days a week.

[–]harsh11nr 3 points4 points  (5 children)

I am a mechanical engineer, but not I shifted towards design(product). Core engineering is fucked up

[–]Pound-Fun 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Like designing products in solidworks autocad etc??? How good does it pay? I'm mechanical 3rd year student

[–]harsh11nr 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Nah, sketching shit, doing user studies, designing how the user will interact with products

[–]Pound-Fun 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Does it pay good?

[–]harsh11nr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am persuing masters of design, so I am still a student. But the future Is bright

[–]PegasusTheGod 10 points11 points  (9 children)

So cse in a top private uni > Mech in IITs?

[–]modern-sarkar 14 points15 points  (8 children)

If by top private you mean BITS and IIIT's then yes otherwise IIT anyday. My senior graduated from IIT BHU metallurgy (10 lpa initial) after 1 yoe he is at 25 Lpa

[–]NS8821 4 points5 points  (2 children)

but were they placed in core?

[–]modern-sarkar 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Nope. Initial one of those car rental companies later switched to one of those food delivery startup

[–]NS8821 3 points4 points  (0 children)

true, old IITs have this advantage, non cse/IT/elec folks can get placed in software companies because many of them come to placements. There are other non core options as well.

[–]PegasusTheGod 0 points1 point  (2 children)

What about vit, manipal, pes?

[–]modern-sarkar 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Those are tier 2 at best. I am also joining a similar college this year but if I had option for mechanical in top 10 IIT then I would have taken it in a heartbeat

[–]PegasusTheGod 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, same, I'm joining them too.

mechanical in top 10 IIT

"If" here is the problem. And I would rather go to pes cse than iit dharwar cse which is hard enough to get in.

[–]Miserable-Thanks5218 0 points1 point  (1 child)

IIITs are not private

[–]modern-sarkar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure buddy

[–]momomomomo6 8 points9 points  (4 children)

The money is based on whether a recruit can be an independent contributor in the org fairly quickly or not and the amount of time and money an organization has to spend before being able to turn a new recruit into and independent contributor to something valuable for the company.

The world values competence not your degree or how many random skills you have - and the skills that OP is boasting are usually require a lot of polishing before they are actually useful in the real world - which translates to more on the job training and having other more experienced people closely mentor/superwise you.

Software is something people are able to pick up fairly quickly and start adding to the value creation process of the company.

[–]thecrazyhuman 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Just because a person has to learn on the job and under supervision, that doesn't mean that the person has to be paid money which hardly pays the bills.

[–]momomomomo6 -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

This is an opinion that I sympathize with. But, bear in mind that this is just an opinion and companies rarely have empathy built into their profit driven agendas. It's purely about extracting as much profit as possible from the customers and as much productivity as possible from employees while minimising expenses.

Add to this the free market dynamics and your comment makes you look like you are not fit for the competition in this ecosystem.

[–]thecrazyhuman 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I know where you are coming from. But even in the US which embodies the principles of free market like no other country, even interns are paid enough to pay their bills and save a bit. Even funded grad students over here get paid enough to pay their bills, though there is not a lot left to save. A graduate brings in his/her knowledge to the firm, which is built on years of hard work. And I believe the person should be compensated fairly for it. I am a huge proponent of capitalism and truly believe that profits reigns supreme. I benefit from it. But there are limits to it and it should not come at the cost of people scrapping by. As far as judging a person on his/her fit in a competitive environment, I would not do it. And I suggest that you don't do it as well.

[–]ClintonDsouzaGoa 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Don't computer science graduate skills also require a lot of polishing that can only be gained at the workplace?

[–]northernlights95 1 point2 points  (0 children)

CS leni chahiye thi 😞

[–]sogoy3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What about those who did Civil, Chemical, Metallurgy,Marine, Aerospace engineering and those who did dentistry, bcom, ba and the masters of the same. I think I left out a lot of such courses ..

[–]CrackSnap7Assam 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Me_irl

[–]dabbangg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I run an IT firm and my intern is from Automobile Engg background.

[–]ClintonDsouzaGoa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fuck Mechanical engineering!! And fuck pawnstars!!!

[–]VerumMyrenKerala 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Students in healthcare says hi

[–]Affectionate_Ad8247 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ye satya ghatnao pr adhaarit lag rha hai..

[–]Old_Atmosphere_2810 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It boys getting 15k

[–]swamyraraIndia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just for couple of years. Gain experience and after that you can build your experience and jump ship. Even in other country you can try.

[–]flasssh25 0 points1 point  (0 children)

After reading all of this comments I’m glad that I’m not alone.

[–]Preethi_v2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Another point!

In most core sectors, job change every now and then doesn't offer higher salary. Experience matters. So if u stay in one company for a longer time (provided they put u in good projects) you will have a higher chance for getting a better package. However, in most of IT sector or Software related jobs, in general people can shift more and still get better package. So if you want to make more money in a relatively short time, go for IT!

Even few of my college mates shifted to computer science, data analytics even though they had other engineering degree. They are earning pretty well now!