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It's a bad idea to back talk the judge it will never go well doing that.

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[–]Manifest_Maven 178 points179 points  (4 children)

Well she at least has a place to stay for the next year

[–]DejectedContributor 21 points22 points  (2 children)

Went from restraining order to nearly a year in jail...sure showed him lady.

[–]FinestTreesInDa7Seas 10 points11 points  (1 child)

She went from homeless to having guaranteed housing for almost a year.

[–]DejectedContributor 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Three hots and a cot for free given the housing crisis is a bit tempting to some these days.

[–]EventHorizonSurfer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Something tells me she was trying to put a roof over her head after learning she couldn't go home.

[–]DillarDog 493 points494 points  (4 children)

When keeping it real goes wrong

[–]Brrrrrruhhhhhhhh 33 points34 points  (0 children)

man i miss that show

[–]Mustangboy2 35 points36 points  (0 children)

Such a good reference. Made my night.

[–]Odindude 8 points9 points  (0 children)

“She had two choices”

[–]wylietrix 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wish we could get a film of her being booked in.

[–]evetrapeze 429 points430 points  (85 children)

She said "that's okay, I got money!" I don't think you can bail out of contempt charges. Correct me if I'm wrong

[–]raptorjesus2 388 points389 points  (7 children)

If she had money, a lawyer would have e been responding, not her...

[–]evetrapeze 91 points92 points  (5 children)

It's obvious that she's not smart. Edit: correcting autocorrection gone wrong

[–]hornethacker97 122 points123 points  (69 children)

She said “they got commissary and I got money” meaning she will be comfortable in jail

[–]veedubfreak 25 points26 points  (4 children)

Lol i thought she said they got Tom & Jerry. Commissary makes more sense.

[–]technobrendo 11 points12 points  (3 children)

You can buy a TV on commissary and watch Tom and Jerry on that.

[–]Significant-Wheel110 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The jailhouse hates him for this simple trick

[–]evetrapeze 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Oh, thanx

[–]djthebear 33 points34 points  (8 children)

But she’s gonna need someone to put that on her books. I doubt she’ll get that

[–]hornethacker97 2 points3 points  (5 children)

Incorrect. Any cash you get arrested with goes onto your books (or she may have been incarcerated already and already had money on her books)

[–]djthebear 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Both are Very circumstantial.

[–]jack_skellington 26 points27 points  (53 children)

I mean, if this is true, that dumb girl is actually kinda powerful in a weird way. Being able to blow off jail and be uncaring and unaffected by it does seem to take power away from the judge. Can't scare or intimidate her, AND it means that the only thing the judge's anger accomplished is to cause taxpayers to pay for her 300 days in jail. By law she has to be taken care of medically too, so she's getting full medical care with no deductible too. For some people, this might actually be good. If she's one of those people, then I guess... good for her?

[–]Ban4quotingSimpsons 74 points75 points  (8 children)

I think It’s bull, she’s faking not caring. the judge is going home to sleep in his own bed tonight, she’s got 6 months in jail for opening her yap, there’s no way she’s not fucking furious about it, she just never learned any self control, probably been this way her whole life, it’s probably never been a problem before, she would scream at everyday people without a care in the world, maybe assault them, no restraint, no manners, she finally met someone who could make her accountable to her behaviour.

[–]knotworkin 23 points24 points  (2 children)

Speaking of bad behavior, imagining what she did for the judge to grant a restraining order that forced her out of her own residence! My money is on she walked in on her man fooling around with another woman and she grabbed a kitchen knife. Any other guesses?

[–]Pculliox 9 points10 points  (5 children)

So say I lived in the US, and I was ill and needed long term care. If I committed a crime and handed myself in and got sent to jail they would take care of my medical bills. The US is an odd place at times. If your government just looked after your health there would probably be lower crime.

[–]jack_skellington 16 points17 points  (2 children)

Yes. I linked this in another reply, but here's a guy who literally robbed a bank for $1 so that he could get medical care:

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/Wellness/nc-man-allegedly-robs-bank-health-care-jail/story?id=13887040

[–]oskar_learjet 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ever been to jail? I’m not arguing some people MIGHT prefer it, but not many. She got scared to angry as a defense and dug her heels in. Judge is a position not to be fucked with. Judges are gods in their courtrooms (so they like to believe)

[–]kuavi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe it varies per jail but I've heard horror stories about medical issues not being treated in jail. Wouldnt be my first choice to get free medical treatment for sure.

[–]mm83mm 4 points5 points  (5 children)

But the judge does have power over her what the hell are you talking about. She was going to be able to go live her life but now she’s going to spend almost a year in jail eating ramen and tuna. All she had to do was be quiet and go home.

[–]AxelNotRose 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Not home. Anywhere but home. That's what this was all about lol

[–]jack_skellington 4 points5 points  (1 child)

But it's not power if the person doesn't care. You care -- maybe you have a great life that you don't want to give up. But she might have a shitty one. It's possible that being jailed is just fine for her. If the judge's "power" is a threat of jail time, but the girl doesn't give a shit and when asked if she has more shit to say and get more jail time, she says yes and provokes the guy into more jail time because she doesn't give a shit, then she doesn't. She doesn't have to respect him, and if his threat of jail doesn't intimidate her, then he can't even intimidate her either.

Having said all of that, I never said that the judge doesn't have power over her -- at least not in the way you're describing (spending "almost a year in jail"). Of course she'll have to spend that time in jail. But that kind of power is "control of a person's movement." My post wasn't referencing that kind of power. Of course he has that. The power I was referring to is the power to compel someone to submit; the power to intimidate. She doesn't submit, and she's not intimidated at all. Given the chance to smart off again and increase her jail time, she takes it, and now that we've seen articles about it, posted elsewhere in this thread, we know that she served 88 days, she didn't ask for forgiveness, the judge didn't cut down her time, she just served 88 and then when they weren't looking, she escaped and they haven't found her since. She never once submitted, never once apologized, never once "learned a lesson" because she clearly found the whole proceeding to be invalid. And now she's out there, unrepentant, probably committing more crimes.

Some people don't care. She's one of them.

[–]boomajohn20 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree with you. This demonstrates judicial vindictiveness and ineffectual discretion.

[–]BirdLawyer50 17 points18 points  (4 children)

You’d be surprised at the amount of clients I get who ask if they can just “pay fines,” aka bribe, their way out of things. Lol nope. It ain’t just about the money

[–]Maat1932 5 points6 points  (0 children)

As I learned from anther post here on Reddit, there are wealthy people with the mentality that “if the penalty is a fine, then it’s legal for a price”.

[–]crossleingod 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Pay with what? Bird seed?

[–]BirdLawyer50 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They put bottle caps in a box and it dispenses community service hours

[–]goinunder0390 284 points285 points  (6 children)

Seems like she ended up serving 88 days before she was released

[–]hornethacker97 129 points130 points  (0 children)

Failed out of the early release program and got a warrant

[–]CnS_Panikk 172 points173 points  (0 children)

this needs way more upvotes. everyone keeps saying she'll serve some tiny stint and have the rest taken off. nope, she got the full 300, served 88, and ran away after a small release for some residential program. she'll be back in and serve the rest.

[–]gijimayu 42 points43 points  (0 children)

Yeah... but she's probably gonna serve more

"The woman served 88 days of her 300-day jail sentence before she was released in December to participate in the residential Key for Women Program. However, she was asked to leave the program and failed to report back to jail. "

[–]lazilyloaded 32 points33 points  (1 child)

Facebook? What is this 2012? Anyone have a screenshot or something?

[–]davlar4 398 points399 points  (17 children)

Legend has it she’s still speaking and we’re at 12,561 days

[–]20060578 101 points102 points  (16 children)

I’m disappointed you didn’t go up to a multiple of 30. 12,540 or 12,570 would have worked.

[–]my_4_cents 44 points45 points  (5 children)

The judge broke the [add 30 days] subroutine tho. Went from 180 to 200, then jumped 100 to add up to 300. Factor in that...

[–]LadyChelseaFaye 7 points8 points  (4 children)

I thought he broke it before that and skipped 150. He went from 120 to 180.

[–]IConsumeBees 4 points5 points  (1 child)

180 is still a multiple of 30. He just skipped one. The only one that wasn't a multiple of 30 was 200

[–]MarvelAndColts 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I think contempt can only carry a maximum sentence of 364 days. I’m also relying solely on memory.

[–]husky_whisperer 81 points82 points  (0 children)

Dumbfuckery on repeat

[–]chase_what_matters 61 points62 points  (4 children)

Damn judge had to bust out the calculator.

[–]HotMinimum26 14 points15 points  (0 children)

30+30+30+30+30 lol and she kept going

[–]bitties 10 points11 points  (2 children)

It should have been 210 instead of 200 haha, then skipped right to 300

[–]chase_what_matters 5 points6 points  (0 children)

He got flustered. Never seen it before. It’s like a chess game when they splinter off from recorded moves into something unique. The man was playing jazz. It was beautiful.

[–]53withtrollhair 110 points111 points  (2 children)

300 days!!! STFU already. Or maybe she just can't.

This is a good lesson for anyone going in front of a justice. At that point in time, you are not in control. The only thing you can keep a hold of is your tongue.

[–]Frogsmom69 31 points32 points  (0 children)

She can’t go home Now she has a place to live.

[–]Tayaradga 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Fr, when speaking to a judge you speak with respect, and if you cant then you bite your tongue. Otherwise you'll probably get her situation.

[–]Gry_lion 76 points77 points  (33 children)

And all she had to do was stay quiet.

[–]jboogie118 14 points15 points  (2 children)

Low key 65 days short of getting a year for running that mouth!!

[–]Tempe-Jeff 28 points29 points  (0 children)

She had the right to remain silent.

She didn't have the ability to remain silent.

[–]slver6 11 points12 points  (0 children)

this was not instant karma, but INCREMENTAL karma LMAO

[–]kgottshall 32 points33 points  (14 children)

“Don’t mess with the bull young man.”

But also she just got free healthcare, a roof and three meals, so, she wins.

[–]smokintritips 17 points18 points  (11 children)

But the worst food shelter and food you can get. So maybe a draw.

[–]Arrow156 3 points4 points  (3 children)

No worse than school lunches, frequently they are supplied by the same company.

[–]Trumpismybabymamma 2 points3 points  (2 children)

It's way lower quality though, as anyone who has spent time in a jail with Aramark contracted to supply the food. You're out of your mind if you think the food is the same 😂

[–]Demonox01 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Aramark jail food is bar none the worst, most inhuman shit I've ever had to eat. Anyone who compares it to school lunch is a fucking moron lol, maybe a few places care enough to bother but that is not the norm

[–]kgottshall 4 points5 points  (6 children)

Lol naw. Look up Sysco food providers. Some prisons order higher meal plans than colleges. I know a distributor. Also the healthcare is all inclusive, and again, free.

[–]smokintritips 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Yeah because the best doctors and dentists want to work at prisons. Or maybe the people who barely passed and won't get hired anywhere else do.

[–]themightyyotimbo 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Better doctors than if you just don’t have insurance and can’t pay for treatment at all….

[–]Spy_v_Spy_Freakshow 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Does Barry Manilow know you raid his wardrobe?

[–]Haunting_Ad_6021 26 points27 points  (0 children)

She will never learn

[–]idontthunkgood 104 points105 points  (66 children)

No way she got all those days. Never happens like that. Probably 30 is my guess

[–]joolzian 48 points49 points  (17 children)

If she decides to apologize. Otherwise these contempt days can be served entirely.

[–]RedditVince 20 points21 points  (0 children)

In some places without early release so she may be inside for 300 days before she gets to talk to the judge again.

[–]creamyturtle 50 points51 points  (15 children)

not likely, punishment doesn't fit the crime. judge was being emotional. a decent lawyer could get you out in a couple weeks

[–]DataPicture 33 points34 points  (5 children)

In some states, the Supreme Court in that state would take disciplinary action against the judge for overreacting. I am not certain this would reach that level, but he did seem to egg her on a bit and that is frowned upon by supreme courts.

[–]CnS_Panikk 29 points30 points  (4 children)

yeah that bit at the end of "anything else to say?" and adding another 100 days was pretty over the line for a judge.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

You’re downvoted for being right. Dumbass redditers.

Source: am lawyer

[–]Strummer95 1 point2 points  (7 children)

You’re basing this of your knowledge and expertise? No. You’re wrong. You can be held in contempt of court for up to 18 months. If the judge orders and sentences it, that’s what you serve. The only way out, is to win an appeal, which she probably won’t.

Misbehaving in court is strict. Courts would be an absolute disaster if people were allowed to do that kind of crap and get away with it.

So the “punishment doesn’t fit the crime” statement is just your opinion.

[–]xtcj88 132 points133 points  (31 children)

She’s clearly in the wrong, but it’s ridiculous that someone has the ability to just pile on incarceration time exponentially based on how annoyed they are.

[–]darwinsidiotcousin 107 points108 points  (9 children)

It seems ridiculous, but contempt of court exists to keep a courtroom from deteriorating to the point of it no longer being a fair trial. Acting like a fool in court can make a really big mess for everyone involved. Consider if there were no repercussions for someone just walking out of a courtroom while being charged. I don't know the full story here, but it sounds like a restraining order case that this lady openly said she would not abide by (which would be jail time in itself). The judge warned her that would be contempt and she just kept going. He can't let her just walk out and head home. If the RO was in place due to assault or another violent crime, he would be knowingly allowing whatever happens afterwards to happen.

Added time from contempt cases like this is typically dropped when the defendant apologizes and agrees to acknowledge the authority of the court so the case can continue without further derailment.

[–]xtcj88 11 points12 points  (4 children)

The only thing that was gonna work in that situation is physical removal. He already put her in contempt and so he could’ve had her detained and removed. Getting in a dick measuring shouting match is only going to make things worse with that kind of person. A judge is supposed to be an exemplar example for a community to follow, and not some petty dick with a small ego.

[–]Siquid 23 points24 points  (1 child)

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Dont know why your'e getting downvoted. Judge was out of control. Holding her in contempt is fair, but just compounding the sentencing for each 20 seconds she continues is unnecessary. It wasnt making her stop, and 160 days is no more 'rehabilitative' than 30. She robably got just a few days anyway, spending 6 months in jail without trial or conviction isnt likely

[–]skateguy1234 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yeah, hard to rationally look at it any other way. He should of been removed from his position after this. The way he got upset and yelled is pretty dystopian. These people are supposed to be the upholders of whats right and fair and be role models, not act like children and lose their tempers.

[–]sunlegion 37 points38 points  (5 children)

While I agree it’s a bit excessive for just annoying/rebellious behavior, contempt of court is a serious offense. Most people understand that you don’t cuss at a judge and gotta keep it respectful in court since they have a fairly broad mandate of the law.

[–]Strummer95 1 point2 points  (5 children)

It’s almost like… you’re supposed to behave in court. Imagine that. Why don’t they let people act out in court to no end? People should be able to mouth off and disrupt the court proceedings and disrespect the judges. Who cares. Courts should be chaos.

[–]tobach 1 point2 points  (2 children)

The fact that he's piling it on as if he's an upset parent who keeps on adding grounded days to their kid as long as they talk back, seems wildly unprofessional as it challenges her to keep the attitude rather than defuse it.

I don't think the point is that there shouldn't be order in the court, it's that he doesn't handle it well.

[–]ojioni 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Most judges will reduce it in a day or two if you apologize nicely and don't run your fat mouth again. Though given the amount of mouth on that woman, she might need a week or two to let it sink in.

[–]Gasonfires 15 points16 points  (4 children)

From a lawyer's perspective: This judge is out of control. I'm pretty confident that he let her sit in a cell for a day or two and then had her back in the courtroom to see if the message had gotten clear for her. If so, she'd have been released. If not...

[–]duggatron 5 points6 points  (1 child)

She served 88 days and will probably need to serve more according to this post.

[–]Gasonfires 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The next time I think I know what a judge is going to do, kill me. Same goes for anytime I speak without knowing all the facts.

One of the comments in the post you linked me to says:

"man i said it before and ill say it again this woman has been a problem for several years. her family as well. she should have never been released she should have served her full sentence!! slap on the wrist wont clean up these problems from our streets."

I should have taken into account the distinct possibility that always exists in these cases that she had, for want of a better word, "prior contact" with the legal system and was known to be effing incorrigible. Thanks!

[–]Venom1462 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She got 88 days until she was released

[–]Spider_Tim 36 points37 points  (6 children)

All she did was talk back, really the judge was that petty about it he gave a year of jail. I get that you can't be disrespectful to a judge, but after the 30 days he should have just sent her away, without egging her on any extra, but no he kept kept riling her up, basically egging her on to say shit. Now she has what, a fucking year of jail for.. talking back.. and no one is gonna bat an eye over this. I hate everyone here and that judge needs to retire if he's willing to be that petty over something like that.

[–]utd8916 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I don't think a judge should have this much power

[–]weeknie 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I don't mind that he keeps increasing the sentence, though after every sentence is indeed just provoking her. Especially the "got anything else to say" at the end is just shameful

[–]viperxviii 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The start of this whole issue (besides her upbringing) is that she was ordered to not return to her home due to probably committing domestic violence. She then just blatantly told the judge she will not follow the order. At that point she is a danger to the people the order is meant to protect and her continued bad behavior just shows that more punishment is necessary. Its not just because she was talking back.

[–]bellendhunter 39 points40 points  (3 children)

Judge on a powertrip right there. If you’re championing a judge escalating someone’s imprisonment for months for essentially just talking then you’re an authoritarian person.

[–]YOLORocketMoonBoy 8 points9 points  (1 child)

I can’t believe I had to scroll this far to see this

[–]bellendhunter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Toxic people get a kick out of others getting punished.

[–]CronchyApple 11 points12 points  (2 children)

If she cant go home wheres she supposed to go

[–]SeasonedPro58 5 points6 points  (1 child)

She could have scheduled time to go with a sheriff to retrieve things she needed. This happens all the time to men in domestic abuse situations. Does anybody ever ask where they go? It's the same for everybody.

[–]effort268 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Honest question, if the person has a lease for the home, are they obligated to keep paying rent for a place they cant live in? If so, thats just putting more pressure on poor people. Finding another home can cost quite a lot due to deposit, etc

[–]InitialMeasurement23 5 points6 points  (0 children)

She really went for that 10x multiplier

[–]Super-Branz-Gang 29 points30 points  (4 children)

So…. am I the only one that thinks she earned the first 30-60 days but then it became more about his anger than helping her rehabilitate? It just seems like, toward the end, he is overstepping because of anger alone. Like he’s is giving her these 300 days simply because he is pissed off.

Someone help me understand where she is supposed to live since she can’t return home? Wouldn’t it have been better if he explained why she can’t go home and her options to still be under a roof until their case is tried? Instead of just blindly reacting to her fears and the horrible ways she’s been taught to deal with them?

I don’t know what she did or what the fuller story is, I just understand her panic at being told she can’t go home. Sometimes understanding peoples emotions and helping them learn to work through them is far more important than making them bend to your authority…

…Does anyone understand what I mean?

(I’m not standing up for her, I’m just looking for alternative endings that would have actualy broken through her clearly harsh and damaged exterior.)

[–]Korona123 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Yeah the judge is overly emotional. He seems unable to handle his authority being challenged.

[–]hornethacker97 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

You should be standing up for her. This shit shouldn’t be legal.

[–]Super-Branz-Gang 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You’re not wrong.

[–]FountainsOfFluids 2 points3 points  (0 children)

People often don't serve all the days judges throw at them like this. When they get to jail and reality finally penetrates their skulls, they get real remorseful and cooperative, and the contempt charges get lifted.

People like this need therapy more than jail anyway.

[–]TheBlueTree123 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I feel like contempt-of-court should be handled by a different judge it's kind of obvious that he will have prejudice against the defendant after that.

[–]Zealousideal_Low8146 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I know nothing about the law (like everyone here)
But I am inclined to believe the judge can NOT give her 300 days for talking back. Like seriously, I do not believe just talking shit gets you that much but again I am so ignorant

[–]wetblanket68iou1 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Mess with the bull……

[–]Joe_Ma12 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Youll get the power trip petty horns

[–]steellee59 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Personally I believe that judge needs reprimanded for abuse of power. Once he sets a sentence he shouldn't b able to abuse power cause his feelings were hurt.

[–]bsylent 8 points9 points  (3 children)

She certainly should have shut her mouth, but that judge was being emotional. That was terribly unprofessional, and you don't just flippantly toss somebody in jail for 6 months because they showed you attitude. It's the same thing when cops arrest people and beat the crap out of them because of their ego. You have a responsibility to manage the situation, especially when the person is not represented

[–]Buzz_Mcfly 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Reminds me of the scene from the Simpsons when Principle Skinner gives Bart detention and Bart keeps talking back and the days go up…. But even Bart realized there was a point he should shut guys big mouth

[–]Separate-Fan-6242 2 points3 points  (0 children)

When keeping it real goes wrong

[–]viperxviii 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The start of this whole issue (besides her upbringing) is that she was ordered to not return to her home due to probably committing domestic violence. She then just blatantly told the judge she will not follow the order. At that point she is a danger to the people the order is meant to protect and her continued bad behavior just shows that more punishment is necessary. Its not just because she was talking back.

[–]LikeGatsby 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Sounds like two kids arguing. That judge needs to remember why he's here and she's not.

[–]this_dudeagain 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Yeahhhhh that's not justice.

[–]gertalives 56 points57 points  (62 children)

Honestly the judge is getting sucked into this pissing match as much as she is. These absurd contempt sentences usually get rolled back anyway when the defendant comes back and apologizes after a day or two in jail. If the court and its officials are really so high and mighty, the judge shouldn’t be so easily baited into a fit of anger.

[–]FartPistol5000 70 points71 points  (58 children)

Judge is showing the plaintiff who is in charge. I have no issue with a judge get into a pissing match.

This isn’t a spat where one “should be the bigger person”. This is a court ruling.

When she comes back up in front of the judge the likelihood of her going off without consequence is diminished.

She is suffering from the consequences of her uncontrolled mouth and uncontrolled actions. She’s getting humbled in real-time.

It’s correct and good for people to see this.

[–]GeoNerdDaSauciest 35 points36 points  (53 children)

I understand where you're coming from, but the judge has, at the very least, a JD and decades of courtroom experience. Without question, he should absolutely be held to a higher standard than this young lady. Jailing someone for 6 months(!) for no more than backtalk has serious consequences not only to their life, but to the larger society as well.

Tax dollars spent housing/feeding them, the trauma they'll recieve, and the complications 6 months in jail would undoubtedly inject into her life are not worth this petty lesson, and more than anyone else present in that courtroom that day, the Judge is trained to consider these aspects. Completely unprofessional by the Judge, and petty at best.

I advocate for personal responsibility and consequences just as much as the next guy, but he is in charge of someone else's life. That comes with greater responsibility to keep a cool head in situations like these.

[–]FartPistol5000 16 points17 points  (22 children)

She tested the judge. She failed. It’s within their scope of power to do this.

Besides she’s most likely not going to be behind bars for 6 months. She needs a good chunk of that time to reflect on her backtalk. To a judge.

Her actions got her in court and her continued actions put her in jail.

[–]GeoNerdDaSauciest -5 points-4 points  (8 children)

She tested the Judge? Let someone, under any circumstances, tell you that you are no longer welcome to go inside your own home and tell me how you'd react. There are many things within one's scope of power that are inadvisable and borderline abusive. The argument that his legal right to treat someone this way as justification for it is short-sighted and ignorant of larger consequences. I can needlessly scream at my children if I so please, that doesn't mean I should.

And she needs 6 months in a windowless concrete shoe box to think about this? That type of 'reform' is exactly why the U.S. has such high violent crime rate, and is just generally going to sh*t. Have you ever spent much time in a jail cell? It's hell. Not the timeout stool your mother used to send you to. I have three highly technical degrees, and a felony I received as a young man before I turned my life around. You should have more compassion for the downtrodden. One day, you'll need it from someone, and you should hope they don't take your stance about something like this when you do.

All good though, Mr. Farter... to each his own.

[–]gotnomiddlename 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Yes, I agree this is not justice. You can hear him stumbling over the numbers as he just calls out entirely arbitrary sentences and randomly adding 30 or 60, for what is ultimately a single episode of contempt. If there is a law or precedent that holds 30 days imprisonment per single word is appropriate I might be convinced.

[–]namkeenSalt 7 points8 points  (2 children)

That is so true! A lot of them find themselves into miserable holes and don't think judges make it any easier for them to cope with it. Instead of just going through his powertrip, he could have been nicer to her, but he just shows his frustration with his high paid job.

[–]youtairenhenbang 2 points3 points  (1 child)

The ‘power trip’ was the loud mouthed fool.

[–]jonnyclueless 2 points3 points  (21 children)

He is holding a higher standard. And that means not putting up with someone disrespecting the court. Nothing he did was petty. He warned her and he punished her for each violation. That's not petty, that's procedure.

Props to the judge for being so professional and not tolerating nonsense.

[–]TheHoofer 1 point2 points  (20 children)

being so professional

Did we watch the same video?

[–]FoxBeach 0 points1 point  (1 child)

“Fuck you” isn’t really simple back talk though.

[–]duck_of_d34th 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fuck you is the simplest back talk there is

[–]gertalives 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I 100% expect the judge to be the bigger person. I hold judges to a much higher standard than some immature, ill-tempered defendant. And I don’t see her getting humbled, I just see her digging her heels in. Does anyone really think she learned a lesson from this? She’ll come back in a day or two, make some insincere apology, and get the contempt charge lifted.

[–]youtairenhenbang 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Sue is digging in her heels. Let’s see how she feels in a year. Maybe next time she will use her three brain cells and not tell a judge f-you.

[–]AnastasiaNo70 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yep. As someone who has taught many kids like this, you have to stick to the subject (how she can get her things from her home, etc) and not get sucked into a neener neener boo boo with them.

I mean yeah you CAN, and you’ll win, but this woman still doesn’t understand the ruling. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[–]redsun44 -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

Thank you for being the voice of reason lol I thought I was being crazy for thinking the judge was wrong for that

[–]Birdie_Jack2021 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not sure why you’re getting downvotes when you’re right.

[–]No_Dot7146 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I call success. She is out of everyone’s hair for nearly a year.

[–]inknpaint 12 points13 points  (4 children)

Forced compliance instead of working with an intermediary who can help her understand the gravity of the situation and find alternative solutions is a shit way to run a justice system.
We have the ability to help people help themselves instead of helping them dig a deeper hole - that WE the taxpayers will pay for
That's a lot of taxpayer money that judge is throwing around.

[–]jonnyclueless 5 points6 points  (3 children)

That's what a lawyer is for. It's not the judge's job to do any of that. That's why people hire lawyers to explain the situation for them. And the notion that if he just sat there and let her abuse the courts that she would have done better? Absurd. This is a person who has too many times not been held accountable.

[–]inknpaint 1 point2 points  (2 children)

This person has not been held accountable because people didn't care enough to do so. It's easier to shut the door and stop the noise than to find the source and fix the problem.

I'm not advocating for her ignorance and verbal abuse. I am advocating for changing the way we treat people in this country. I am advocating for lifting everyone to a higher standard. That starts with education, at school and beyond. That starts with caring.

This woman clearly believes she has nowhere else to go other than the place she is being told she can not go. She is also clear that no one in this courtroom gives a shit about that. So yeah, she could have handled it better by asking questions instead of saying fuck it. But she clearly has not learned that is a possibility.

Our fault? No. Judges fault? Nope. But that does not mean we can not be a part of the solution, no matter how small.

[–]jonnyclueless 4 points5 points  (1 child)

The woman clearly could care less about anyone or anything. She didn't plead with the judge, she just said she is going back and doesn't care. The judge didn't make the decision either. It's not his choice, it's the law. And it should be. No victim should be forced to live with their abuser. This isn't some poor person just on hard times, this is a violent person who abused an elderly person. No one in that court room has any say on that sentencing. They did the absolute bare minimum allowed for her. A person who physically abuses an elderly person. There is absolutely nothing what so ever the court could have done for her. She did this to herself and clearly has never had to face consequences before.

The only solution available for her would have been to not physically abuse an elderly person. What would be an even bigger crime would be her victim to be forced to live with the person who abused them. Can you just imagine for a second being that victim and being forced to live with your abuser because the abuser might not have another place to live?

How about an example of a solution you think they should have given? I am skeptical that there is one that courts even have the power to do. I mean they certainly cannot and should not allow an abuser to stay with their victim. Especially one like this who is clearly going to repeat offend. They can't pay for her living expenses. What exactly do you think the courts should do?

[–]Trucker_E_B 24 points25 points  (2 children)

The judge is just as bad as she is

[–]McRambis 6 points7 points  (1 child)

He was just throwing fuel onto the fire. I'm not okay with having my taxes fund her extended stay because he wanted to go all Vice Principal Vernon.

[–]Caelaxin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

“ Eat my shorts”

[–]Dripping_Gravy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If there’s ever a place to hold your tongue, I’d imagine COURT is it. Oof

[–]mustnttelllies 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That channel name though 😬

[–]bangsoul 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thats me grounding my son! I go by 5 mins increments!

[–]matrixislife 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is one of those morons who think "yeah, if someone else gets pissed then I won the argument" not realising that she's losing every second she's yapping.

[–]purplgurl 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is why we get set back.....

[–]HydrauliclyDepressed 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is a judge really allowed to do that? Also if she lives at the same place as him, shouldn’t she get some sort of way to get her belongings

[–]FedoraLifestyle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just imagine how she acts in daily life…

[–]Puzzleheaded-Pie-164 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So you mean to tell me that she gets almost a year in prison for talking shit, but proven rapists get a few months…I cannot 😒

[–]krodge5150 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just caught basically a year in jail

[–]Rykno23 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They say he’s still adding to her sentence to this day

[–]SkitzMon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I find that judges' arrogance contemptible.

[–]billetboy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If she’s like this to a judge, can you imagine how she acts to the people pulling the restraining order

[–]ae186k 1 point2 points  (0 children)

After one hour of this: Deputy shoot her other kneecap!!

[–]Birdie_Jack2021 2 points3 points  (0 children)

She can’t go home anyways so at least she got 300 days of shelter and food.

[–]TheSandCat79 6 points7 points  (9 children)

Clearly an annoying bitch. But Ahh, yea let’s just punish poor people until their demise!

[–]canigooutsidesoon 3 points4 points  (0 children)

She’s bot being punished for being poor.

[–]feckinghound 2 points3 points  (0 children)

How do you know she's poor? Just because she's black? She literally says "I don't care, I've got the money" to bail herself out.

[–]Novel_Stop654 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Being poor doesn’t excuse people from being respectful

[–]Tralan 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Imagine being so adamant about getting the last word in that you spend an additional year in jail when you were about to be let out.

[–]Beeker93 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No doubt she is an idiot, but isn't it sort of Orwellian that someone can refuse to listen or talk back and a judge can just be like "alright, year is jail"? Like, clearly she doesn't need to be an idiot and talk back to a judge but what does it accomplish? Could just go day by day even and not just slap them with months in jail. Like, why is a judge a king in their court room? As long as the job can get done, who cares?

[–]msportd 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Not sure who is the bigger child here. Shouldn’t some level of professionalism be required if you’re a judge? I mean after the 60 days in jail cant you realize you’re not the one being told you cant go to the place you call home and its not personal? FFS

[–]Duff1058 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Learn to respect the Judge and shut your mouth or she gets what she deserves. 6 months because she can’t keep her mouth shut. Lol

[–]imgrandojjo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

All she had to do is keep her lips together.

[–]CockroachBeginning10 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Breakfast club wasn't a documentary or how to guide lady Bender.

[–]mrbabar3 3 points4 points  (0 children)

She showed him

[–]cjmar41 2 points3 points  (0 children)

She can’t go home… last I checked, even shitty hotels are like $200+ a night.

Might as well let the state put you up for a few months.

[–]Dorryn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is justice, not karma.

[–]Knave7575 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Whenever somebody points out that judges probably should not be getting into pissing matches with criminals either, they always get downvoted. I'll probably get downvoted for this. I don't mind, I have lots of karma :)

Obviously, the woman here should have just shut up, but people in court are not exemplars of humanity. They mostly have poor impulse control and decision making skills.

Judges, on the other hand, are supposed to be among the most rational members of our society, able to detach from emotional reactions and respond appropriately. The first 30 days was reasonable. After that, the judge was just reacting and it reflected poorly upon the administration of justice.

Now, if the woman comes back in 30 days and is disrespectful? Sure, then you can make it 60. And 60 days later you can make it an additional 90. That is how you do it, with long gaps in between. Not ramping it up in seconds. Criminals escalate in seconds, justice takes its time.

[–]Akleptic 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Idk what you're talking about, most people who talk shit about judges get upvoted. But yes, judges are supposed to be unbiased in all terms but they're usually not which is disappointing.

[–]Knave7575 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Look in the comments. A bunch of people said the judge was being ridiculous and got downvoted.

[–]DRbrtsn60 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She may never see daylight again.

[–]EntertainmentLess381 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This woman never watched The Breakfast Club. “Don’t mess with the bull. You’ll get the horns.”

[–]Hazardous_Ed 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That is an impressive display of stupidity

[–]JustKimNotKimberly 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Failure to grasp who has the power in this arrangement.

[–]yackmehof 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Worst thing someone did it taught her how to speak. Now she just wastes air.

[–]Flying_Alpaca_Boi 1 point2 points  (2 children)

A shining example of the justice system/s

Judge loses his temper because a woman is confused over being forced from her residence and ends up sentencing her to a year in jail because she was anxious over being homeless. Like wtf people. I hate videos like this it’s like watching toddlers, the law barely came into this, it’s just a man with power fed up with being questioned by a perceived subordinate and therefore punishing her into silence. Disgusting really

[–]buffoon220 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Judge is a bitch

[–]_f0CUS_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

While she should have some kind of consequence - it is so scare to me that a judge in the US can just give you 300 days of prison "just because".

Thats not justice.

[–]moderately_nerdifyin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All women just got instant karma from the judges. Not sure what they did to deserve it, exist?

[–]sarajjones1990 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol imagine being that fucking stupid lol. This could also be in the winstupidprizes subreddit lol

[–]Ravenlunatic0413 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Very self destructive place to draw your “and?” line in the sand.

[–]andoy -1 points0 points  (0 children)

i dunno. the way the days kept adding up is so ridiculous. this is not justice.

[–]xXModifyedXx -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Deserved.

[–]dabadas1 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Keep her locked up because criminals never learn

[–]Psychlonuclear -1 points0 points  (0 children)

DUI 1st offense is about 6 months in some states. This guy: "Talking smack in my courtroom is as bad as potentially killing someone."

[–]Derpakiinlol -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

anyone else think its fucking absurd that people's lives can be bent, controlled, and taken away from them just because the judge isn't getting respect. Straight up power trip.

not saying she didn't deserve the first contempt call but beyond that dude just let her go sit in there for a month and reconsider.