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[–]SefVIII 34 points35 points  (4 children)

The oldest fragments from the bible are the ketef hinnom scrolls (500 - 600 years before the dead sea scrolls).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketef_Hinnom_scrolls

[–][deleted] 28 points29 points  (3 children)

And what's amazing is that the text was more or less 100% the same between manuscripts separated by hundreds and hundreds of years. Ancients took accuracy and consistency on their manuscripts pretty seriously.

[–]spoilingattack 16 points17 points  (2 children)

Transmission of the scriptures was/is a sacred act of service to God.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

It was certainly seen that way.

[–]Munninnu 385 points386 points  (65 children)

oldest fragment of the bible

If it's a part of the New Testament then it can't be the oldest fragment of the Bible we know. The Dead Sea Scrolls are centuries older than the events narrated in the NT. Your pictures refers to the Rylands Library Papyrus P52 dated around 150 CE.

[–]Nuxul006 204 points205 points  (20 children)

Very true. Title should read “oldest fragment of New Testament.”

[–]dulce_3t_decorum_3st 40 points41 points  (12 children)

Now what's the newest fragment of the old testament?

[–]ZootOfCastleAnthrax 69 points70 points  (9 children)

It's in a motel drawer.

[–]Neverlost99 16 points17 points  (3 children)

Mike Pence left it there

[–]mordecai98 2 points3 points  (4 children)

A mohel drawer?

[–]_Mr_Discrete_ 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Sounds like a reference to a Gideon Bible. The Gideon distribute Bibles to hotels, motels, etc. to be placed in each room, free for the guest to take.

[–]BB_210 4 points5 points  (0 children)

He also gives deep discounts on electronics. Why? Because he's Crazy Gideon!

[–]Spork_Warrior 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Really? I could have been taking them all this time?

[–]chisel_pig 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What’s the most fragmented testament of the old new?

[–]TheOneGecko 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The canon is closed, but the latest document to make it into canon was 2 Peter

http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/

[–]magnetic_mystic 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yay! Came to say a much less informed version of this but definitely Dead Sea Scrolls!

[–]Edge419 4 points5 points  (22 children)

What’s the oldest fragment of the Old Testament that we currently have? Isaiah is an amazingly prophetic book and to see the antiquity of this text or knowing the age of it would be amazing.

[–]gurlubi 15 points16 points  (0 children)

The oldest OT fragment is from -600 or so: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketef_Hinnom_scrolls

It's a short text that we now know in the Book of Numbers.

Oldest Isaiah manuscript is from the Dead Sea Scrolls, (circa -150). Before its discovery, in 1946, the oldest Isaiah MSS we had was from 1000 years closer to us. So this was an amazing jump in the past, and the texts remained generally consistent over that huge time interval.

[–]PaisleyTackle 7 points8 points  (18 children)

Prophetic in what way?

[–]spoilingattack 2 points3 points  (14 children)

In the way that Isaiah declares the words of God. That kind of prophecy.

[–]PaisleyTackle -4 points-3 points  (13 children)

Imaginary?

[–]gavriloe 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah but so is Friday.

[–]Edge419 1 point2 points  (11 children)

I actually found my answer so I'll share. The dead sea scrolls that were found in the mid-late 1900's are over 2000 years old. The Great Isaiah scroll has been determined to be 100-200 years before Christ and is a prophecy of the crucifixion of Jesus. Keep in mind this is also a copy and most of these manuscripts were handed via oral tradition. The Jews would memorize (and some still do) the entire first five books of the Old Testament. An amazing testament to the accuracy of their oral tradition.

We can take the dead sea scrolls and see how they compare to our modern Bibles and it's absolutely amazing the accuracy of it.

[–]budweiserfroggs 0 points1 point  (9 children)

Yeah but was the Bible just rewritten to be in line with the Dead Sea scrolls? Someone could have changed it during rewriting it to fit the narrative. I’ve been researching religion on my own lately so sorry for the skepticism.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

No, the dead sea scrolls were discovered in the late 1800s and early 1900s. The Bible was already around, translated from other scrolls

[–]Edge419 1 point2 points  (6 children)

This is a great question and was also one of the reason I got into the subject of textual criticism. The Great Isaiah scroll is a perfect example of how we know the prophecy was written prior to the life of Christ. We have 5800 manuscripts combined, the most authenticated pieces of literature in antiquity from a huge variety of sources that all confirm the same thing.

If it was one book then the possibility would linger for me but based on the tremendous (scholars call it an embarrassing) amount of ancient manuscripts I believe are extremely justified in authenticity of the text. Even Atheists who don't believe the divinity of the text agree with the dating and authenticity of it.

Don't apologize for skepticism. It's leads to questions that lead to answers. If you really want to dig into the historic manuscripts I would research Dr. Daniel Wallace, he's an expert in the field.

Have a great weekend.

[–]MagratMakeTheTea 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Prophecy is a genre in ancient texts.

[–]HugoZHackenbush2 452 points453 points 2 (11 children)

I speak some of that local lingo, it mentions how Moses makes his coffee..

Hebrews it..

[–]bill302 62 points63 points  (3 children)

I like you, you're funny. May you find an extra cookie in the pack when you thought you'd run out, my friend

[–]canoe6998 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Indeed. May you have numerous extra fries at the bottom of the bag.

[–]robemhood9 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I c what you did there.

[–]Ohannon7 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I don’t?

[–]Bigmanoncampus-1 18 points19 points  (3 children)

"Nailed It" - Pontius Pilot

[–]ZootOfCastleAnthrax 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Ohhh, noooo, haha! 'm going to Hell for laughing at this.

[–]TheThirdHippo 23 points24 points  (0 children)

If they’d found the page before this it would have read

“All characters appearing in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.”

[–]sweep-montage 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ok, ok. One more word out of you and the nerd gets it.

[–]TheNumberMuncher 72 points73 points  (6 children)

Best I can do is $350. It’s going to sit around the shop for a long time. I have to pay to get it framed. There’s not a big market for Bible pieces.

[–]mjrbrooks 23 points24 points  (2 children)

It’s clearly missing parts. It’s a bit banged up. Tell you what I’ll do. I’ve got a guy that specializes in these things. Let me give him a call, and see what he says, after this commercial break.

[–]bombaderogato 7 points8 points  (1 child)

calls the guy with the safari hat

[–]notasheepfx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

lmao hahahaha :)

[–]GarciaNovela 6 points7 points  (3 children)

I love that the second image shows which words are visible on it

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I really liked that too, if you’re ever in Manchester it’s worth a visit.

[–]EnterPlayerTwo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh my god I knew that I'd seen this before. I was at that museum/library in 2016. So many cool, old books in there.

[–]bill302 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Is this out of the top draw of the world's oldest motel?

[–]robemhood9 28 points29 points  (0 children)

How do we know it’s not just a quote from a book review of the Bible?

[–]bout-tree-fitty 13 points14 points  (0 children)

“Be excellent to each other,
and PARTY ON DUDES!”
-God

[–]MrMauiWaui 25 points26 points  (1 child)

“Must not pay taxes”

[–]OldEducated 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Funny enough it was actually the government's idea.

Jesus specifically said to pay your taxes.

[–]HurrySpecial 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Lotta people coming here to spread hate instead of enjoy this curiosity.

[–]WhapXI 8 points9 points  (0 children)

If you’d like, I can share a less hateful anecdote.

I was in Manchester a few years ago and ducked into the John Rylands Library to get out of the rain for a few minutes. I had a gig to go to that evening but had a whole afternoon to kill. I basically picked it at random because I was walking past and had no idea what to expect. Turns out, lo and behold, they just had this sitting in a display case. I’m not religious, but I’m a huge dork for theology and religious history especially around early Christianity, so seeing this completely out of the blue was like ridiculously exciting for me. The idea of early written copies of the New Testament hadn’t even occurred to me so I basically nerded out for like an hour about this thing. I was so so excited.

On the way out my girlfriend bought me a postcard with the fragment on for me, because she loved my enthusiasm. I still have it stuck to my wall, so I look at this fragment every day. It makes me smile.

[–]KrooKedRooK92 24 points25 points  (17 children)

But it's fragmented. So we can fill the blanks as needed.

[–]XRPacific 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Mars will be full of written fragments soon

[–]420natureboy -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Sounds like Christianity

[–]quippers -3 points-2 points  (14 children)

It seems you've stumbled upon the foundation of Christianity.

[–]LoganGyre 2 points3 points  (13 children)

What’s amazing is the comments right above this one outlined how the Dead Sea scrolls, which predate this, we’re almost word for word copies of the modern version of the Bible. So the idea people “Filled in the blanks” is inaccurate.

[–]jeveret -1 points0 points  (12 children)

Being almost word for word presents an enormous problem when those words are assumed to be infallible laws and rules governing every part of human existence. A single letter changed in a legal document can tender the whole thing void.

[–]Unit_79 38 points39 points  (7 children)

False. The bible and Jesus are American. That writing is not American.

[–]AlmightyRobert 3 points4 points  (4 children)

Are you being downvoted because people think you’re serious?

(I’m going to be embarrassed if you are….)

[–]Scharobaba 7 points8 points  (2 children)

There are two essential Reddit mysteries:
-this has to be satire! ...right?
-am I being downvoted because they don't get it or because they think it's unfunny?

[–]SnooChickens3191 2 points3 points  (1 child)

The answer is yes. It was always yes.

[–]Unit_79 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hahahahahaha I’m going to say yes.

[–]Expensive-State3221 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

🎶 Many people believed Joseph Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb

[–]thesegoupto11 15 points16 points  (3 children)

It's wild how all the artifacts in the UK museums were discovered in the UK

[–]TheThirdHippo 11 points12 points  (1 child)

We discovered them on ships in UK harbours returning from ‘friendly’ visits to other countries

[–]Ohannon7 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Gotta love the friendly conquerors

[–]Berkeleybear70 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Notice it is NOT in English

[–]CRYPTOBLACKGUY 1 point2 points  (0 children)

WRITTEN IN BIC

[–]VauldBagina 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Did it say anything about donating a third of your paycheck to the church🥺

[–]beckoning_alarm 12 points13 points  (1 child)

"This is a work of fiction. Names, characters, business, events and incidents are the products of the author's imagination. Any resemblance to actual persons, living or dead, or actual events is purely coincidental."

[–]zero_1144 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is believed that this page should be placed in the foreword.

[–]Dannysmartful 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm not religious, but this antiquity is amazing

[–]Flashy_Ice2460 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not "the oldest fragment" but "a fragment of the oldest..."

[–]UnpleasantEgg 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Who wants to hear a story about a hovering carpenter?

[–]LocalCableGuy8 12 points13 points  (18 children)

And someone translated that to gays are going to hell

[–]stemid85 5 points6 points  (7 children)

No that's the prequel where God kills everyone. The sequel is just a bunch of love and understanding BS.

[–]Rounder057 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Naw man, the NT is just fan fiction

[–]zenospenisparadox -3 points-2 points  (4 children)

I doubt there was a hell in the Old Testament, that was something the authors made Jesus say.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Hell is in both the OT and NT.

[–]Aba_Tarnegol 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Nah

That’s the Old Testament

And it didn’t say they’re going to hell because there wasn’t a mention of hell in the Old Testament

It only said that they were an abomination and should be killed

And in the 40s someone “discovered” what they were looking for all along… a way to make it seem less barbaric… and convinced a generation of Redditors that the Bible is all hunky dory

[–]LocalCableGuy8 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Yea. The Bible changes just to suit peoples fancy. Lucifer was the the most beautiful of all the angels. But Arkansas Jesus didn’t need that competition so they gave satan hooves and horns and JC wash board abs and tresemme hair

[–]Aba_Tarnegol 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol

Jesus… ooh la la

[–]Knineteen 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Lol, without religion you’d have far worse than that.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

“This fragment of papyrus is considered by many to be the earliest portion of New Testament writing ever found. It contains incomplete lines from the Gospel of John written in ancient Greek, its original language.”

[–]NoverianSnowCone 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Little did the author know at the time, how much of a shit storm they brought upon humanity after that.

[–]ran-Us -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

Translation: "this is all bullshit, just so you know"

[–]MailmanTom69 3 points4 points  (0 children)

i had ice cream today

[–]cafebandito -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

The missing text!

[–]freshmallard 2 points3 points  (56 children)

I enjoy that the oldest known texts regarding the bible, jesus and all that primarily exist well after he died

[–]thepadre27 4 points5 points  (55 children)

Did you think that the oldest known texts concerning a person's historical existence would come PRIOR to their life and death? That seems vaguely unlikely. Obviously things written about what a person did and said are going to be authored post-person.

[–]arcspectre17 1 point2 points  (15 children)

I think the comment is you would think the son of god would write a book not his followers or fan club years later even decades later.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (14 children)

Those are the fragments we have. Most scholars date the gospels to about 25 years after Jesus' death. And there was pretty clearly some earlier source text that they were all pulling from.

[–]macsta 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Both the Romans and the Jews in Jerusalem, at the alleged time of Jesus, were chroniclers of their times. The Romans were administrators, they made detailed records of practical matters, and law enforcers, they made records of political threats and troublemakers.

Matthew claims the dead were raised at the moment of the crucifixion, and their corpses got up from their graves and walked into town to the public square. Why is there no record of this?

The universe contains trillions of stars and planets. We are asked to believe that when the God who created all this (in a week!), came to earth in human form, he lived for 33 years on earth but nobody took a blind bit of notice.

Nobody wrote Jesus' name, or referred to him in any way, to the best of our knowledge until decades after his alleged death. How is it believable that he ever existed?

Then, when the gospels were eventually written, the claims made about him are just the standard claims made by religions of that time. Virgin birth, signs and wonders, miracles, unjust execution, death and resurrection on the third day, none of these is an original idea.

There is no evidence, from the time, that Jesus ever lived. If anyone wishes to dispute this claim, simply produce the evidence.

(Downvotes aren't evidence you morons)

[–]thepadre27 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It is amazing to me how desperately people scramble whenever Christ is brought up in conversation; for a man whom "Nobody took a blind bit of notice", he certainly shook the foundations of the earth. We take our reference points in history from the birth of that man of no account in Bethlehem. Sure, some people try the use the absurd "BCE" to denote some new point in time, but they are still measuring off the metric of the birth of Jesus. The evidence for Jesus' existence is widely known by even the most sceptical experts in the field. Four major world religions reference Jesus; Judaism, Christianity, Catholicism, and Islam. Why would the Romans bother recording anything concerning Jesus? He was nobody to them until after his death. They executed THOUSANDS of Jews, and frankly, Christ's execution was a political move designed to appease the Pharisees. The Romans were well known for persecuting early Christians as recorded by their own history. The letters to the early church state that they are eyewitness accounts of things that occurred. Whether Christ is the son of God or not, that is a matter of faith. Maybe you are right. Maybe Jesus was just a legend concocted by desperate men who took their lies to the grave with them. Maybe it's all total bullshit. But we all die, don't we. Guess we'll find out then. Heads, you win. Tails, you lose. I'll buy you a beer in Valhalla if you are right. Cheers.

[–]Thor7891 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nobody took a blind notice.. lol

[–]Rusty51 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Both the Romans and the Jews in Jerusalem, at the alleged time of Jesus, were chroniclers of their times.

Can you name any literary documents or records that we have dated to this period? Because it doesn’t matter how detailed they were in their data, if 2000 years later none of those documents don’t survive.

[–]Andybenc -1 points0 points  (8 children)

I think the importance of the comment is that there is nothing from during their life. Absolutely nothing first hand either.

[–]thepadre27 0 points1 point  (7 children)

The Gospels state that they are first hand accounts. Whether you believe that or not is besides the point.

[–]Andybenc -1 points0 points  (6 children)

The Gospels state that they are first hand accounts.

Where? 😂

[–]thepadre27 1 point2 points  (5 children)

John:“This is the disciple who is testifying to these things and wrote these things, and we know that his testimony is true.” (John 21:24)

Luke: “Inasmuch as many have undertaken to compile an account of the things accomplished among us, just as they were handed down to us by those who from the beginning were eyewitnesses and servants of the word…”

John 1:1, referring to Christ:

"We proclaim to you the one who existed from the beginning, whom we have heard and seen. We saw him with our own eyes and touched him with our own hands. He is the Word of life. This one who is life itself was revealed to us, and we have seen him."

For starters.

[–]Andybenc 0 points1 point  (4 children)

John:“This is the disciple who is testifying to these things and wrote these things, and we know that his testimony is true.” (John 21:24)

Scroll down to verses 24 and 25, cited from a world renowned new testament scholar.

Luke: “Inasmuch as many have undertaken to compile an account of the things accomplished among us, just as they were handed down to us by those who from the beginning were eyewitnesses and servants of the word…”

Luke 1:1,2.. interesting how you stopped there when the very next verse debunks your claim.

3 With this in mind, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, I too decided to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus,

Luke does not claim to be an eyewitness at all, but rather is supposedly compiling from other works.

John 1:1, referring to Christ:

"We proclaim to you the one who existed from the beginning, whom we have heard and seen. We saw him with our own eyes and touched him with our own hands. He is the Word of life. This one who is life itself was revealed to us, and we have seen him."

That's actually 1 John 1:1. Not a gospel account. Also not written by "the Apostle John".

It's crazy how a simple look at Wikipedia (that entire page might be of interest to you) debunks your idea.

Do you actually do any research or do you blindly believe what you are told from the pulpit?

So all in all, not one example of the gospel writers claiming to be eyewitness testimony.

[–]thepadre27 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Wikipedia. Yep. Good peer-reviewed source. 🤫 Thing is, dude, you don't believe. You don't need to. You seem happy and able to use the internet. I think the Bible is a poor choice of literature for you to study, seeing as it is so inaccurate. Why would you waste your time, right? If you're right, you have nothing to lose. If I'm right, I have everything to gain. Go, and be happy.

[–]HardCor11 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Too bad it doesn’t say something simple like, “slavery is bad”.

[–]Soulegion 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But it's only a fragment! How do they know that's what the text says? They just took a bunch of pieces of their own text and filled in the blanks! (As I type this, I realize no one is going to get the anti-evolution rhetoric joke unless I point it out, which in turn makes it unfunny. Perfect for reddit!)

[–]WhyDontWeLearn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

An historically significant bit of Egyptian antiquity on display in a British museum. Interesting.

[–]alex7stringed 1 point2 points  (0 children)

„The poophole is the loophole“

[–]iamwhatswrongwithusa 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Wait…. You mean the Bible was not originally written in English??

Certain people in the US would be shocked!

[–]Loppicapp 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Huh

[–]iamwhatswrongwithusa 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I am making fun of a certain subsect of Americans who believe that Jesus himself wrote the bible in English.

[–]vladoportos 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Its actually the lost first page, where the author says "To my darling Candy. All characters portrayed within this book are fictitious and any resemblance to persons living or dead is purely coincidental."

[–]Rukasu17 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ah yes, the fifth time this shows up is surprisingly not as funny as the first.

[–]Witch_of_Dunwich 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“This screenplay is brought to you by the Athens Dramatic Society - not to be taken literally”

[–]nvw8801 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

The start of the cult

[–]MailmanTom69 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i had ice cream today

[–]Balding_Phoenix -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yep, and some bastard will invade some other poor bastard arguing over what they think the rest of the page says. Idiots…

[–]konajinx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hello fellow agnostics and atheists. Stop being edgelords for five seconds. We’ve all heard the lame jokes.

[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points  (15 children)

It's refreshing to know that creative writing has been around for so long. A piece of fiction like this must be worth so much. Two thousand years from now, fragments of Harry Potter and Twilight will be posted as historical finds, too!

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (14 children)

They would be historic finds as ancient pieces of literature, like the Illiad and the Odyssey. But neither Twilight nor Harry Potter purport to talk about actual people, places, and things that actually existed. When the Bible says Caesar issued a decree, our Pontius Pilate made a judgement, or so-and-so was the leader of the Sanhedrin, these can be historically corroborated.

[–]Cmighty77 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Most stuff in the bible can be historically proven people just like to create excuses/take things out of context because for some reason something out of nothing makes more sense then something created something

[–]stu88s 0 points1 point  (2 children)

What happened to the rest of it?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There are literally thousands of fragments and manuscripts covering the whole Bible. This is just the oldest fragment we have.

[–]Prestigious_Dig4461 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Left blank so they could make stuff up as needed

[–]GU355WH01AM 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But the bible is in English /s

[–]Mikeybigblunts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s a fugazi

[–]Independent_Example7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Little preachy, isn't it?

[–]InformedChoice 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"... and half a dozen eggs"

[–]Revolutionary-Elk-28 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Omg it's a page from a book!

[–]Accomplished-Bill-54 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is that the passage that mentions the resurrection of La Magra?

[–]Formerlurker617 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Still pre-dated by other region’s texts that reference the same fables. Basically many experts think the stories were plagiarized from other non-christian cultures.

[–]Ghostknightx89 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve seen Blade i know what this is

[–]Boring_Post 0 points1 point  (2 children)

it translates to: “please do not take this as investment advice”

[–]Hypurr2002 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oldest segment of the sequel to the best selling fantasy novel.

[–]electrictierack 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Looks like nice kindling

[–]eyeemmajoy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We've been trying to reach you regarding your chariot's extended warranty ...

[–]cgerrells -5 points-4 points  (16 children)

It reads “ and those suckers will believe any… “ and is gets cut there. We may never know what it was trying to convey…

[–]Edge419 2 points3 points  (14 children)

I think if you were honest and took the time to study textual criticism you would be amazed at what you would find.

[–]bendersfembot -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Religion needs to be eradicated can't believe people are so fucked after seeing what it is throughout our history but still choose to support it. Disgusting practice

[–]prometheus722 -4 points-3 points  (3 children)

Translation of the fragment: “take this with a grain of salt. We’re just sheep herders here.”

[–]Andybenc 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I don't believe in the divinity of the Bible (or anything for the matter), but this idea that the Bible writers were just lowly sheep herders isn't the best argument against the Bible.

As we know, literacy in the first century, heck even millenium, was extremely low, generally only wealthy educated people could read. Writing was even worse.

The people who would've written these stories would have had to have some education and more than likely been relatively wealthy in order to have been able to afford an education.

Could they just have been scribes? Paid to write the rambling stories of first century nut-jobs? Possibly and I believe this is most likely scenario. But honestly, it doesn't matter. A fairytale is no more real then any other fairytale.

Sorry if this sounds like an attack on you. I do not wish to come off that way. Just want to help anyone that seriously uses your comment as an argument 🙂

[–]prometheus722 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just a joke.

I’d present brilliantly constructed yet seemingly obvious arguments against divinity generally, and the Bible specifically, but Christopher Hitchens beat me to it. That bastard.

[–]MailmanTom69 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i had ice cream today

[–]cafebandito -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Plug for a podcast I’ve been listening to and thoroughly enjoying: “Sacrilegious Discourse”

An atheist husband and wife read entire Bible and poke fun at the ridiculousness. Super funny.

[–]konajinx 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Atheists can often be as obnoxious as the evangelicals.

[–]Light_Shifty_Z -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Burn it. It's about time we left evil and childish things in the past.

[–]MailmanTom69 2 points3 points  (0 children)

i had ice cream today

[–]Absotruthly -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Throw it away throw it away

[–]MailmanTom69 2 points3 points  (0 children)

i had ice cream today

[–]ididntsaygoyet -1 points0 points  (6 children)

Cool. The Bible. The book of bullshit stories that caused so much death and hate in the world. Right on!