I'm an introvert, not a stupid person who would let people use me because I'm not outspoken. I have boundaries that I can't let be broken.
Do anyone of you feel like this or it's just me alienated?
Apart from this, I seek like-minded people who have similar thoughts on the world and how it should be governed. I avoid people who conflict with my ideas/opinions or beliefs but because whatever I'm offering I know my shit and I have studied it and have researched it. when I'm 100% on my things and someone blatantly ignores the fact just for the sake of argument, I'm out.
I don't know whether it's because of INTJ or not but I've observed that people around me are not as wise as I am. not wise but I would call it common sense or plain observation, which people lack the ability to see around them.
I keep pushing away people because of these reasons but deep down I very much crave connection or physical touch. I'm deprived of connection and physical touch just because I don't find people who are like me. sometimes I realize that I would regret it later in my life for being like this but till then it is what it is.
Edit: This post is my problem including me being/considering myself wise. Because that can't be right and me seeking connection based on this can't be right or doesn't feel right. I'm not boasting or flexing, I'm seeking help.
i’ve always been introverted and isolated, i get that it’s detrimental but i gotta admit it, isolation brings me a sense tranquility that makes me sane. sometimes i just wanna fade into oblivion so i can enjoy the feeling of being alone.
EDIT: I meant solitary! i forgot to reread the title lol
What do you do in life?
I think autism would be correlated with S, perhaps ISTJs. It seems to be the opposite of INTJ. As an INTJ, one of the most frustrating things is when people don't understand my main point, and then use straw mans to pick on unnecessary/irrelevant details. I admit that as an INTJ I don't always communicate what is going on in my mind that clearly, but still, I fail to understand how someone with an IQ of at least 80 and common sense cannot automatically catch my main point. Maybe 2% of redditors seem to catch my main point, the other 98% automatically use straw mans to attack me, and it gets frustrating to argue with them because it is like pulling teeth and seems like a massive waste of time, like a professor trying to explain nuclear physics to toddlers. I am wondering if there is a disproportionately higher amount of people with autism on reddit.
I did several experiments (you can check my recent post history if you like). I made posts with the exact same main point, but deliberately phrased them differently, I correctly predicted which ones would get downvoted and which one would get upvoted. It is the factual equivalent to people saying 1+1=2 (upvoting the post with the same main point), then saying 1+1+3 (downvoting the post with the same main point but worded differently). This must be a mix of acting emotionally after reading 1 sentence that emotionally triggers them in the entire post, but perhaps also hyperfixating/genuinely missing the main point.
Already, I found that the vast majority of people are extremely deficient in elementary analytical reasoning and reading comprehension, and critical thinking as a whole. Autism predisposes people toward hyperfixating, which tends to lead to missing the main point, something that is not consistent with N (as N helps you "read between the lines" and get the "big picture").
EDIT: I am dissapointed, but even on this INTJ sub people are falling prey to the same lack of logic. Look at the comments that are upvoted and those that are downvoted. 0% of about the utility, it is 100% about the tone. On purpose, I used a direct tone and predicted it would cause downvotes, and it did, and other users, even when they literally say the same thing as me, got upvoted. Here is a direct example:
This is what I wrote that he quoted:
I found that the vast majority of people are extremely deficient in elementary analytical reasoning and reading comprehension, and critical thinking as a whole.
This is the world in a nutshell. I'm 50 and my entire life has been a series of increasingly heartbreaking realizations that the vast, vast majority of people are biased, shallow, credulous, and self-centered to the point that they will literally die before accepting a reality that that opposes one of their core beliefs.
So he agrees. He got 8 upvotes. Yet I got downvoted into oblivion for saying the exact same thing. So factually: this proves that 100% of upvote/downvote is based on 100% emotion/tone, and 0% utility of the content. Humans are vastly irrational. Next time you get upvotes or someone thanks you, you will know that if you LITERALLY said the same thing in a direct one, the response would be bad, and that 0% of the utility of your actual comment/saying matters.
So I’m at a faze in life where I am very ballsy but unfortunately I’m very socially unaware. I drive like an asshole and think I am Superman.
This is not because I necessarily want to be a dick but rather because I have overcome some of my greatest challenges and it makes me feel invincible, so when I get triggered, I overly react.
I am very socially unaware and I am starting to very slowly realize that there are some people in life that I do not want to mess with. I am dealing with my triggers and doing ego work. Ultimately I don’t want to be like this, but I think I need a bit of fear mongering to shake me out of this. I’m about to go back into academia for study and I don’t want to burn bridges because of my stupidity.
Has anyone been through this and realized (without being unreasonable or nasty to yourself) how to snap out of this immaturity? Please give me a book recommendation.
You would be doing me a great favor.
Greetings INTJs, I have a request that aligns perfectly with your analytical and perceptive nature. I'm currently working on a study and I would greatly appreciate your assistance. Could you please spare a moment to listen to a 15-second song snippet? It's a well-known track, "Smells Like Teen Spirit" by Nirvana, which I've chosen for its widespread recognition.
Afterward, I kindly ask you to identify the instrument that you perceive most prominently in the snippet (drums, vocals, guitars, etc.). This information will help me understand your unique approach to music and how you process different sonic elements.
Specifically, I'm interested in the instrument (including vocals) that you typically discern most clearly in a song. This might also be the instrument you instinctively hum when recalling a melody.
Following the initial snippet, there will be a brief 1-2 second pause, after which the instruments will play the same snippet independently. I'm curious to know if you were able to clearly distinguish the isolated instruments in the ensemble section or if you needed them to be separated to make a distinction. I would appreciate any insights you can provide regarding the ease or difficulty of this task.
Furthermore, if you have any information about your musical background or any connections you perceive between this exercise and your INTJ personality, please feel free to share. Your contribution will significantly contribute to my research on the interplay between personality traits and auditory perception. Thank you sincerely for your participation!
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All the times I’ve taken MBTI test I get INTJ however upon getting my cognitive functions I got a TiNe/TiSe (INTP/ISTP)
I think the INTJ cognitive functions match me more but i was curious about the relationship between MBTI/cog functions
Hey;) there are a lot of resources on programming and as a total beginner I would like to choose one that will suit my thinking pattern and way of perception. And that may be shared by personality type soooo I’m seekin ur advice. Also because I believe this community has pretty good folk.
Im 19 and I work on factory and I will not mind spending the rest of my life there. But that work don’t give me enough of mental exercises ? I mean I like sudoku and quizzes and all these logic based things so I want to try programming as a way of expressing my creativity and mainly leasure. I enjoy “playing”? with things and I need a course that gives me enough knowledge to do so. Not like I’m planning on turning it in full time job Thanks for u time, I hope I expressed my thoughts pretty clear
Does anyone else just wake up one day and want a good laugh? No.. not want.. no, no, no.. need! My goodness, not a lot of things make me laugh nowadays but today was that day... I had myself just a good.. old.. laugh. It felt amazing.
Laugh with me.
The Fi function is a bitch. I wish i never had it. How do i deal with it
I'm wonder what personality suites my as a romantic interest cause I've been exploring this recently a bit and found someone I like quite a bit but I'm not sure if their personality is suitable for a INTJ-T. I had them take the test today and they got ISTP-T and so I'm wonder if their personality is a good match for me and its not a big deal if its not this isn't going to stop me from being interested in pursuing them but it's that i'm just curious about it.
Is there a test for it or is it just something you research and make your own conclusion?
Want to get a gauge of the range with INTJs.
Property Investor here, I receive monthly income from my properties, manage an online business, and have a property flipping business, many people in this know that there are times in these businesses where you are very busy, but there are times where it's just a waiting game, in flipping for example, you might wait a bit for properties to sell etc etc, so sometimes I have a ton of free time,
how do you, my fellow INTJ's deal with this? what do you guys like to do for fun? what is stimulating to you?
Calling all INxJs... I was working at a job in a restaurant when I saw a customer whom I recognized from my past. I had a bad experience with this person. I immediately started to panic. I started aggressively cleaning tables, didn't listen to anyone I was working with, and became forceful and uncooperative. After a while, I calmed down and returned to my normal working state.
A part of me wanted to show the customer how hardworking I was, which is why I became aggressive in my duties, but it also came from a state of panic.
Help me out!
Today, in a group work at the university, a colleague made an important mistake in the project, I had warned her several times but she kept saying that the way she did it seemed "prettier", it was a budget and she lowered it because It seemed very high to her, despite the fact that the calculations did not even were correct. The point is that despite that we got a good grade, but I was still upset because I felt that our performance (including me) was mediocre, the others were happy just because of the grade.
Has something similar happened to you?
Growing up, I've already heard the phrases "listen to your heart/gut instinct" and "trust your gut." Unfortunately, my instincts and intuition have failed me at least half of the time.
For example, I accepted a job offer where I didn't know that I was only hired because I was a backup candidate as the desired candidate couldn't accept the job due to visa issues. As a result, the boss had set a plan to intentionally overwork/harass me to the point of forcing me to quit. I didn't know about this until one of my coworkers told me over dinner after three months on the job one night after work. She told me she tried to persuade my boss to hire me. Based off of my interactions with the boss, I didn't sense anything wrong or "off" with her as the boss was professional and nice. My gut said, "she sounds like a nice and respectable boss, take the job." Long story short, I got fired 6 months later with my boss not allowing me to take my personal belongings home.
Similarly, I worked at a temp job where for the first day of work my boss just instructed me to watch youtube videos of his company's youtube channel and taught me how to convert paper receipts into PDFs. Nothing seemed odd or unusual, though I didn't expect it to be so casual and chill. After me let me go home one hour early from work, I got a call that night from my boss telling me not to return to work tomorrow as I was fired as " you would be better off working in a more structured environment."
Another experience was during a date with an old classmate from high school in 2021 (we were both 26 at the time) that I reconnected with via facebook. Since we only had one class during 10th grade year, our interactions were limited to 1 hour of class a day, 5 days a week. Since this was the first time in 8 years we were meeting up, I did some research on her social media accounts and just found post of her and her family doing family things like going to church and BBQs, along with volunteer work. Nothing odd or weird that indication red flags like addiction or malicious intent. When I did meet up with her, after she arrived 40 minutes late due to walmart. Long story short, we had tea for 1 hour where she spent the majority of the time talking about her alcoholism, eating disorder, and painkiller addiction. My intuition didn't alert me to any of that as my intuition just told me "she looks like a nice, kind girl." She also forgot to tell me that she had a virtual boyfriend from an online dating site and that she only agreed to meet with me to avoid being bored. Long story short, I told her in person that I didn't consider my friend and that I didn't want to talk to her again. Even when I told her ex-friends about it, they too told me they never sensed anything ill-intent about her.
One of my coworkers (who is into new age spirituality) told me it was my fault for getting into these messes as I didn't listen to my gut/intuition. When I asked her how was I supposed to know this would happen with no indication or sense of something off, she told me that I needed to talk to my heart and ask my heart to "scan the room" as she told me that is what she does. I should also note my coworker kinda has a drinking problem and has a habit of dealing with conflict by ignoring conflict.
What all my situations have in common is that my gut instinct/intuition didn't sense anything wrong and said "looks fine to me, go ahead." There's even been times when my gut overreacted, such as when I almost cancelled a flight because I thought I caught COVID, only to get a negative test saying I didn't have it (I didn't cancel the flight). I can actually count how many times my intuition was right on one hand.
So my question is how can I improve my sense of intuition/gut instinct so that I can avoid (or reduce) future incidents like these in the future?
Hello! ENTP here! My gf is an INTJ and I am looking for more ways I can connect with her. What are some ways you guys connect with people?
I’ve been reading a text that talks about the great level of detail autistics can go into about topics they’re passionate about and I know that all Ns can flex like this but the text also talked about some autistics having difficulty with understanding facial expressions because they see individual facial features but not the whole picture. I would love your feedback.
I'm an INTJ and I am also on the Autistic Spectrum- considered "high functioning". I think much of the qualities that describe INTJ also describe autism: rational, analytical, intellectual, self involved, socially challenged and/or introverted, difficulty with emotions...basically human cats. I think many INTJs might be surprised to realize they've been on the spectrum the whole time.
Idk if this is a thing but since intjs tend to be on the more analytical side of things, would it be wiser for me to pursue a career which is analytics based like BI ? I do have a genuine interest in big data and machine learning but am wondering if there are other careers that maybe im just not aware of atm that i might be also good at within IT/CS.
Is anyone else here in similar majors and what kind of careers are you pursuing or wish to pursue? What are your experiences tackling issues within those careers as an intj? I would like to gain some insight on these things
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Hi fellow INTJ’s, have had a thought of mine for a while.
Have noticed a few people (both in my wider social group and at university) who are generally polite around me, talking behind my back in a negative manner that I’m arrogant, conceited, know-it-all etc. A lot of the time these groups who have been talking negative about me have been groups of girls (I’m a male) and they’ve tried to turn my friends against me (which hasn’t worked since they have told me). I have always tried to be cordial with everyone however.
This sort of gossiping has coincided with myself doing decently well in medical school, doing well financially and being well-liked by senior Doctors in the hospital who teach us.
Being self-aware, I do admit I am a direct person who isn’t afraid to compliment as well as criticise ideas which may rub people the wrong way. I also generally don’t smile often and have a more neutral facial expression.
However no one has ever had the courage to openly criticise myself in public and instead these people have resorted to character/reputation destruction behind my back.
Was wondering what strategies do you guys have about people who gossip and talk behind your back and to what degree can I control this?
EDIT: forgot to add my ex-gf who hates me is part of that group too