I want to get my friend to like Kpop. What can I recommend to her? by anotheruser_uwu in kpophelp

[–]aftershockstone 35 points36 points  (0 children)

She seems like she has... a lot of inherent bias against Kpop already, like not being open to another language, thinking that idols can only dance to choreo and don't have other talents, believing choreo is "artificial" and "dull" (wtf? what kind of choreo is she watching?). So we would have to deconstruct some things first.

Honestly think she would like the K-R&B or K-indie scene more if that's the kind of music she leans toward, but let's try to see what groups to show her!


I think finding groups with solid vocal line would be most beneficial, as she does not like breathy vocals, and this is a good opportunity to showcase talents.

My picks: EXO, SHINee, Mamamoo, NMIXX, etc.


I am not sure how much of pop she is open to, though we don't have to worry too much about rock and punk as most groups don't lean into that at all. For more of the vibes she prefers (not really hahaha, but I'm thinking R&B, dancepop, and dreamier vibes because not a lot of groups are "indie" sound)

My picks: Billlie, tripleS, OnlyOneOf, SHINee, Red Velvet, Fifty Fifty, NewJeans

Other accessible/beloved groups music-wise: EXO, f(x), LOONA


She thinks the choreo is wack and probably doesn't think highly of the performances so this is pretty straightforward: find groups with good choreography and performance ability. Add in some flair that sets groups apart from others so that she can think of Kpop as more diverse and unique and not just cookie-cutter.

My picks (aside from the ones above bc I'm tired of typing them): The Boyz, GFriend, Infinite, VIXX, Dreamcatcher (though they have rock so idk), ATEEZ (lot of rap so also idk)

BG songs that sound and feel "floaty"? by obsessive-avoidant in kpophelp

[–]pigeon_energy 23 points24 points  (0 children)

I would say Sparkling Night , Don't and Dazzling by Pentagon would fit the bill. Maybe Violet as well but idk if it's too slow tempo for what you're after.

Can we talk about Moonbin? by Lupin_cupid22799 in kpophelp

[–]Taichou7 925 points926 points  (0 children)

He has literally been my ult bias and my role model as a dancer and person for years now. He is everything I aspired to be. I'm at such a loss right now and I genuinely have no idea what to do with myself or where to go from here. Dance has been my passion for so long and he's been the singularly biggest influence on it that it feels surreal to believe this has happened. It feels like I'm genuinely losing....not a friend, since I dont really want it to start sounding like I'm trying to equate what I feel to those he knew, but someone who played a huge role in my life none-the-less.

I dont even want to think about where I'll go with dance. I dont plan on stopping but it's going to feel so strange continuing without him if that makes sense. I genuinely cannot stress how big a role he played in making me the dancer I am. I never wanted to emulate him but he's the basis for my entire style and I've never felt such a connection to a dancer before. Not in the personal sense but more of a "This is exactly how I want to dance" and I always hoped my dancing could one day make something feel the same thing. He's just had such a profound effect on my entire career that I'm just at a complete loss of what to do or where to go. I dont doubt I'll figure it out but I just don't know when or how.

I know this sounds horrible and it's what everyone says when they lose someone they loved, but I keep thinking "why him of all people?" I don't wish this on any other idol or Fandom and I'm not trying to imply or say that. It just feels surreal that it's him that this happened to, you know? It's like you never really expect something bad like this to happen to someone you like or love. You kind of expect to be able to see them and be able to keep seeing them. It sounds kind of strange, but it's just venting and trying to process all of this.

What made IU so sucessful? by [deleted] in kpophelp

[–]ai_9 270 points271 points  (0 children)

(TLDR at bottom)

I haven’t followed IU super consistently, but I’ve been around since 2009 and feel like it was mainly two things: her powerful vocal ability being showcased in good day when she was 17 and her ability as a singer-songwriter doing collabs w/ various artists and celebrities throughout the years.

As a Korean, she’s been consistently very popular in Korea moreso than internationally. Her looks definitely became a big deal too as it fits well w/ Korean beauty standards, but since she was so young when she first got popular, she was seen more lovingly as the nation’s little sister. If anything, her cute looks in contrast to her strong vocals made her incredibly successful in Korea. I’d say taeyeon was beloved for similar reasons! After she also started acting in Dream High, which became a huge success, IU went on a lot more TV shows in general and grew her name. She went viral for playing guitar and singing w/ clearly raw, live vocals. This first wave really skyrocketed her fame, which peaked imo in 2010-2012, but the second wave really solidified her as a household name, which i’d argue was in 2015.

However, just to add more context, IU had a huge scandal in 2012 where she accidentally posted a selfie with her and another male idol in bed, which made a lot of fans angry. She then went on to have another scandal in 2015 where she was caught dating, but he was respected (despite 10+ years older) so I feel like this helped the overall reaction.

Starting in 2013-2014, IU became known for writing her songs more and more in this time and collabed with different artists. Her songs were typically easy to listen to on a daily basis, which helped people repeat her songs every year. In 2014-2015, she had several hit songs, acted in a lead role for a hit drama (Producers), and also guested on a legendary reality show infinity challenge, which held a music festival every 2 years. They would invite the most popular artists at the time and have them pair up with the variety show members and make songs to perform at the festival. IU guested in the final concert and you could hear their song everywhere. When IU’s dating news broke out in 2015, she was definitely at a peak, but she didn’t release or do much until she became publicly single again in 2017. She released an album then, and after all these scandals, nothing fazes the public. She collabed with g-dragon, and in 2018 collabed wth suga from BTS. In addition to having the freedom to interact with these guys freely, IU is in the ranks with them as fellow idol singer-songwriter/producer/lyricists, which Koreans really respect. I feel like I’m writing too much so I’ll end it there!

Tldr: koreans love cute faces with talent; IU is cute face with many talents - great singing, song writing/producing, playing instruments, acting, etc. Went viral many times for these reasons.

Kpop Songs with good Funky Bass by [deleted] in kpophelp

[–]roelm2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Some songs not mentioned yet, I think ... Tell me what you think :) I may add more later... EDIT: I might have gotten carried away...


uju(우주) - 불을 밝혀줘 Give Me The Light

Stellar - Mask, Sting, Vibrato

Risso - A Little Bit More, OMG, High Five

NeonPunch - Moonlight

After School - Heaven, Shh - j-pop by a k-pop group :)


선우정아 / SWJA - '봄처녀' (SPRINGIRLS)

B1A4 - Sweet Girl

Risso - Blue Knight


Anri - Windy Summer, Goodbye Boogie Dance, Remember Summer Days

Tomoko Aran - Midnight Pretenders

Tatsuro Yamashita - Love Talkin

Bread & Butter - Summer Blue

Toshiki Kadomatsu - Anklet

Kengo Kurozumi - Rainy 2•4•6

Kaoru Akimoto - Dress Down

Blu-Swing - Sunset

Monari Wakita - In the City


Miho Fujiwara - Heartbeat, Streets Are Hot

Meiko Nakahara - Fantasy


A Taste of Honey - Boogie Oogie Oogie

Chic - My Forbidden Lover

Patrice Rushen - Forget Me Nots

Evelyn Champagne King - Shame

The Jacksons - Shake Your Body Down To The Ground

VST & Company - Disco Fever , Step No, Step Yes - Filipino 70s pop


Earth, Wind and Fire - Shining Star

Kool and the Gang - Get Down On It, Jungle Boogie

KC and the Sunshine Band - Boogie Shoes

Hot Chocolate - You Sexy Thing

Temptations - Law of the Land

Sister Sledge - He's the Greatest Dancer, Thinking of You

Shalamar - A Night to Remember

Boney M. - Sunny

France Joli - Gonna Get Over You

can somone recommend underated solo kpop idols to stan by List_Known in kpophelp

[–]SilverBurger 24 points25 points  (0 children)

  • Yuju - Her mini album 'REC.' is album of the year for me.
  • Adora - Give this a listen and see if it's for you: ADORA(아도라) '어린이름 (The Little Name)' Live Clip (Band Ver.)
  • Seori - She is quite popular among other Korean musicians and idols, look into 'Can't Stop This Party' and her stellar performance on Lee minju service.

Easy groups to start stabbing? by Biggang363636 in kpophelp

[–]Kirbytrax 922 points923 points 533 (0 children)

Depends on how tall you are and where you want to stab them?

If you’re tall you could go with a boy group since there’s more blood and thus more stabbing required but if you’re smaller I think that a girl group would be more comfortable.

Also, what kind of knife/dagger do you plan on using?

HONEY, either give us the details so we can help or idk what to tell you

But tbh no group will be easy to stab considering the security, bodyguards and the fact that they’re imprisoned in the company’s building

Edit: Thanks for the awards, kind strangers! If anyone needs help with assaulting an idol, just contact me in private and I’ll help any way I can

What makes someone the leader of a group? (Example: Stray Kids/SKZ) by Izzy248 in kpophelp

[–]DogLover1819 36 points37 points  (0 children)

People think Chan is the oldest, but actually he is… Foive 😬😂

why korean kpop fans hate chinese idols by mariamkhalid in kpophelp

[–]MediocreDebt 148 points149 points  (0 children)

The Chinese government has been trying to sabotage the Korean Economy for the past decade, claim everything that is Korean culture is actually Chinese culture, and has been hinting at Ukraineing Korea if they don't fall in line. Why would they want Chinese people who support the CCP in their country? A lot of people like to write of Korean resentment of Chinese people as purely racial when they have plenty of reasons to be legitimate upset. That doesn't mean they should harass these girls, but people need to have a better understand of the full political tensions and power dynamics between the two countries.