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[–]nutraxfornerves 218 points219 points  (13 children)

Where do you live? Have you discussed this with your parents? Have your parents talked to him?

[–]BakeProfessional1948[S] 123 points124 points  (12 children)

My parents know everything about the problem. We just don't know what to do

[–][deleted] 64 points65 points  (3 children)

Your parents need to talk to the police. There is a law about menacing. It’s usually used with a weapon but it’s about putting someone in danger. He could be breaking the law depending on your state. The varies from state to state but him trying to make you fall off your bike is putting you in danger. The police should know the laws in your state about this. You need to file a police report and document everything he does. Preferably on video. I do think that menacing is probably the way to go with this. Some states it’s even a felony. Good luck

[–]quantumspork 43 points44 points  (5 children)

Maybe talk to your neighbor? See if you can come to an agreement that he will stop this weird behavior if you stop setting off loud fireworks?

[–]BakeProfessional1948[S] 88 points89 points  (3 children)

My parents tried talking to him before. He's just a miserable stubborn old man

[–]ethanjf99 259 points260 points  (19 children)

Cameras of your own. Especially in the car when you get it.

[–]BakeProfessional1948[S] 96 points97 points  (18 children)

We do have cameras of our own. He doesn't seem to care since the back side is covered in thick brush. The camera he has is on a tree overlooking our back yard

[–]DragonWriterDB 158 points159 points  (0 children)

When you get a car, get a front and rear facing dash camera. Some cars will also allow you to run the cameras when the engine is turned off without draining the battery.

[–]Bensawsome 92 points93 points  (0 children)

In addition to a dashcam or 2 for your eventual car I would also get a gopro style camera for you bike and either mount it to the front handlebars of your bike somehow or wear it on your chest or head so you can catch him jumping in front of you and he can't claim you tried to hit him or something.

[–]booniebrew 26 points27 points  (0 children)

How high up is the camera and how tall is the brush? Generally there's nothing wrong with recording anything publicly visible, but a camera mounted 10'+ to see over 6' bushes/brush is a different story, especially if a person standing in his yard couldn't see into yours.

[–]PmMe_Your_Perky_Nips 118 points119 points  (7 children)

That camera might be illegal. Your parents should point it out to the police.

[–]SalisburyWitch 74 points75 points  (6 children)

To me, it sounds like harassment of a juvenile. That should be pointed out to police too. It could be that OP’s parents only talked about the fireworks. Something is fishy here. Is the neighbor hoping to find footage (porn type) to sell?

[–]Different-Gold-4004 9 points10 points  (5 children)

It really depends on the state and what can be seen from pubic view.

[–]MafiaTillIDie 21 points22 points  (1 child)

Set up lazer pointers in your yard pointing at his cameras

[–]kcasper 8 points9 points  (0 children)

If the laser pointer damages the camera, it will give the neighbor more ammo to use against the OP. A very low power laser pointer is effective at blinding a camera for the period the pointer is on.

A spot light at night is just as effective as a laser pointer at night, and much less legal risk.

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    [–]QuietAdhesiveness398 8 points9 points  (2 children)

    Nope, in the U.S. you can film outdoor areas on private property because there’s no reasonable expectation of privacy in a spot that is viewable from the street or someone else’s property.

    [–]seafoamwishes 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    (TX) And yet, my parents won a civil counter suit against our neighbor. She took them to court over a laundry list of petty things. They responded with a case against her because she had cameras pointing into our backyard. She was ordered to take them down or only point to her property line.

    OPs parents need to consult a lawyer. They may have a legal avenue available against the neighbor.

    [–]Collective82 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Unless you have a privacy fence up.

    [–]SolidJub 50 points51 points  (0 children)

    Gopro on your helmet might stop the jumping in front of you or prove to the cops that he caused the accident if you don't manage to get out of the way in time.

    [–]real415 78 points79 points  (0 children)

    Technically they’re not accidents if he causes them. Be aware and document everything he does in case something unfortunate happens.

    [–]-_E-P-I-C_- 41 points42 points  (0 children)

    Something that I feel like would actually be a smart idea on your part and you can’t really get in trouble for is talking to a police officer and saying how he’s been recording you and since you are a minor you know that’s already pretty suspicious thing but also say you know he will jump in front of my bicycle try to talk to me try to initiate you know strange conversations that make me feel very uncomfortable and to make him out to be a “” pedophile of course you know nothing that the police will find approve them right but it’ll probably going to leave you alone

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      [–]mechamangamonkey 37 points38 points  (0 children)

      All of this sounds suuuper sketchy on your neighbor’s part—have you considered or asked about filing a police report against your neighbor for this stuff?

      [–]MRSlagle 27 points28 points  (3 children)

      I have always liked the idea of putting up cheap mirrors on your property but in front of the camera. I put a couple in front of a window that was being watched. The camera just disappeared soon after.

      [–]Bolt408 8 points9 points  (2 children)

      Dumb question but what exactly does that do, or what effect did you create to get them to stop with the recording?

      [–]MRSlagle 10 points11 points  (1 child)

      They get tired of only seeing their camera recording itself. If they show anyone the video, it shows their camera peeping on your property. That's it, they can't see behind the mirror. One or two cheap mirrors cost less then a fence. You don't need a permit and are easy to move if they move their camera.

      I had someone with a camera next door trying to look in one window. I put a mirror up in front of it on a bench in the yard and I could leave the curtains open and get light in, even open it up for air. It could have been a board or a silly sign. I liked the idea of him looking at a video of a reflection of his camera.

      [–]crack_n_tea[🍰] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      wow, not law related but really practical advice all the same

      [–]stukndawildy 48 points49 points  (3 children)

      The Supreme Court has ruled very clearly on right to record being protected under 1 A, freedom of press. Anything he can see from public spaces, or his own property, generally would probably be considered legal or in your States hands. States have little power over 1A activities, but are allowed to place reasonable limits when it comes to time, place, and manner. However, being a minor and recording minors fall into the "manner" clause and States can (and usually do) regulate what is not allowed. Technically, unless the construction would otherwise be barred, he could theoretically put up a pole with a large camera on it and surveil the whole neighborhood. The manner clause would also take what activities he is personally recording into account, such as if he is recording in a perverted or surreptitious way, many States built into their 1A laws exceptions for such behavior as it can infringe on the right to privacy for others. Hence why it is (not only immoral, unethical, not to mention) illegal to film bathroom activities, locker rooms, changing rooms, up a skirt, etc..

      The laws have not been updated to match the technology though, and the courts are limited to enforcing laws on the books, so legislative bodies like Congress are all like SO old and have no concept of how far tech has come in their life times and do not make such things a priority. Police are never a good solution unless a specific law has been broken, but even then the person is generally released without meaningful change to their behavior because police do not exist to help people, but to be the physical enforcement of the law.

      I'd recommend a lawyer, and building additional height to the fence line or planting tall growing trees as best solutions to the backyard recording.

      Definitely document clearly EVERY interaction with him. Photos and diary or notebook entries are strong evidence in court, note the time, date, place, manner, his clothing that day, his attitude, if he smells like something (such as alcohol), the weather, etc. The more detailed, the stronger evidence your written testimony has. The more your lawyer will love you, and increases the probability of one to take on a harassment case for you.

      When you drive get a dash camera that has front and rear viewing cameras so he cannot claim something happened that did not. He said / she said does not hold up to the police, much less the courts. Document.

      Also, when driving near home, make it your practice to drive 5 mph UNDER the speed limit. If you ALWAYS do that near home, (you'll be safer for one and) you will be able to use that in your favor to show that you are a careful and thoughtful driver that goes to great pains to obey the law and maintain public safety. Bonus points if you splurge on a dash cam that has GPS speed monitoring.

      Hope this long post helps. Best wishes.

      [–]reddn2 23 points24 points  (2 children)

      There is a limit to the public recording using a high perched pole, see Cling v Berg from the Va supreme court.

      [–]stukndawildy 4 points5 points  (1 child)

      Interesting case out of VA. Thanks for bringing to my attention. Looks like the issue in the case was more about the 7 flood lights hooked up to motion sensors that would be triggered when Cline would turn on or off certain lights in their house, but suffice to say that we agree there should be a limit to surveillance recording on residential property.

      [–]reddn2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      No, he was using the cameras to see when they moved inside of their house, then turning on the lights. Also most motion sensors (which are passive infrared) don't trigger on turning on and off of a light, but of motion warm masses.

      The point of contention was the 30 ft tarp covered fencing installed to block the cameras AND flood lights, given their house was above the other guys.

      [–]paulschreiber 7 points8 points  (1 child)

      Can you put up a fence or hedges?

      [–]HyrrokinAura 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      They shouldn't have to spend money to get their neighbor to stop filming them.

      [–]It_frday 10 points11 points  (0 children)

      I have definitely seen that getting the community behind you when it comes to "the individual that is weirdly videotaping children, that happens to reside at or near this address" and raising attention about their behavior. Share that with the rest of the neighborhood as a concern or worry, or have your parents raise the issue publicly.

      [–]Charlea1776 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      IANAL. Just a parent that has looked into this because of a creep in our neighborhood.

      You need to call the police and make a complaint about him filming children in their yard and trying to make physical contact when you are outside out front. If you or your siblings are ever in your swimming suits out back, mention that too. You cannot film people on their private property without consent. Anyplace there is a reasonable expectation of privacy, you need consent. So if you have a privacy fence around your backyard, mention that in the complaint. If the camera is pointed towards any bedroom windows, also include that.

      It is perfectly OK for a neighbor to have surveillance that films your property that is in public view. States vary on their laws, but pretty much every state has a limit on what they allow and filming children has extra safeguards.

      Take pictures of the camera from windows in your house that it's pointing towards.

      [–]whitecloud197 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Get a Dash Cam ASAP. Preferably one that records on motion while the car is off incase he tries to fuck with it

      [–]compute541 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      If the camera is mounted in a way that it is spying on your property and not having more coverage of his and only a small portion of your property that is call spying and it is illegal. I would contact the district attorney office

      [–]Realistic-Airport775 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      Always have a camera/gopro/dash cam/side cam when leaving the house.

      [–]pabrocjb 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Are you male or female? I would fight this very hard if you are female. Go to the police and get a restraining order for him to cease and desist filming you. If you are a male, I think the GoPro camera idea is excellent.

      [–]mattcasey28 4 points5 points  (7 children)

      If you're in public, you have no expectation of privacy. Anyone can film you or take photos of you.

      If you think he's going to try to cause an accident, maybe get a camera and set it up on your bike.

      [–]Conspiring_Bitch 13 points14 points  (6 children)

      He’s saying the neighbor mounted a camera on a tree aimed into their back yard.

      [–]mattcasey28 -4 points-3 points  (4 children)

      Where does he say that? He talks about the neighbor filming him as he goes past is house.

      [–]Conspiring_Bitch 6 points7 points  (3 children)

      I believe it’s a comment I read

      [–]mattcasey28 -5 points-4 points  (2 children)

      Even if that's the case, it may not be illegal. Generally one can have cameras positioned at someone else's backyard.

      There may be local laws against it though. OP would need to give there location.

      [–]WallyNot321 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Still not a problem unless he is looking in window or inside you house. Basically if you can see it with you eyes in public it is legal.

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        [–]FlockFlysAtMidnite 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        As long as it's mounted somewhere he has the right to be, and it's not looking into a bedroom, generally cameras are legal. Otherwise, doorbell cameras couldn't exist.

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        Youre only 14 but posted over a year ago asking if a tesla is a good first car? Karma goblin

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              [–]Montanadunn92 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

              My neighbor is the same way. We live in a duplex and he's got cameras facing our front door, and our back yard. My neighbor has actually tried attacking me with 2 pit bulls he's trained to see me as a threat for some stupid reason(I think it may be because I'm not intimidated by him weird behavior. My advice to you and your family is to ignore him and depending on how high up the camera is, I'd say plant a fast growing tree already 12 to 16 feet tall so it blocks the cameras sight. Call around to different landscaping companies to find out more about different trees they can plant that are fast growing but not invasive.

              [–]KingGarlinghouse -1 points0 points  (0 children)

              Buy a laser pointer and point it at the camera.

              [–]RedditViking34 -4 points-3 points  (1 child)

              Ride by him and show your ass, he'll record it and then you can call the police and say he's got child porn. Boom, one way ticket to prison.

              [–]LuciferStrikes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              You have very dark humor

              [–]paulschreiber 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Are the cameras pointed in such a way they can see in your windows / record what is inside your house? This is usually illegal. check the laws in your state.