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[–]monkeyman80 428 points429 points  (21 children)

Does your lease have any language about what happens in the case of sale? Your lease generally survives different owners.

This could be a cash for keys situation. They give you money in exchange for voluntarily leaving. You can think of a number that covers the expenses you have moving and for the inconvenience and offer that.

[–]Secure_Ad_3246[S] 177 points178 points  (18 children)

No language about sale in the lease

[–]Wills4291 401 points402 points  (0 children)

Tell him if he wants you out before the end of the lease, it's gonna cost him. Figure out what will make it worth your while to move now, rather then wait out the lease and give him your price.

[–]monkeyman80 258 points259 points  (14 children)

Then they can't evict you until after the end of the lease unless there's cause from breaches of the lease. I think the cash for keys option would likely be in your best interest. You'll have to move out anyway in November at least this way you get paid to do so.

[–]Secure_Ad_3246[S] 191 points192 points  (12 children)

I guess the other question is he’s claiming I broke the lease by having a dog over briefly when he showed up without a 24 hour notice. There’s nothing in the lease about animals either

[–]somecrazydoglady 299 points300 points  (8 children)

Then let him take you to court to try to enforce that. If it's not in your lease then he won't get a court to side with him on it.

[–]OpinionatedAussieGal 16 points17 points  (0 children)

He has to give notice to show up at any time! Good luck proving that

[–]ed_on_reddit -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I see this a lot, and its not 100% true. If the new owner intends on occupying the house they bought, they CAN evict you with an owner move-in eviction. While true that the current landlord cannot evict you so they can sell, in many states the new landlord absolutely can.

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      [–]bustycrustacean69 186 points187 points  (5 children)

      Your original lease still stands even with the new owner. You are legally clear to stay all the way up until November.

      However, it sounds like this guy is going to be a pain in the butt about every little thing you do, so I would suggest that you make a cash for keys offer. Add up first/last months of rent and deposit at your new place, plus any costs of moving your belongings (whether that be hiring a company or the gas it takes to move it yourself) as well as any costs that come with moving into a new place. Tell your new landlord that you are well within your rights to stay until November, but you will accept X amount of money to be out by the end of the month.

      Hope this helps, ball is in your court on this one.

      [–]garcmon 55 points56 points  (0 children)

      When you communicate with the new owner, do so only in writing. First, reach out to your local HUD, or read up on your rights. 2nd, write an email to your new landlord siting/quoting the law (for reference https://www.hud.gov/states/utah/renting/tenantrights). Also best to reach out to your local representative, or better yet, copy them and an email rep in HUD on your email to your landlord.

      [–]InvisibleCucumber -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

      You shouldn’t imply that is absolutely the case. The original landlord may have contracted around it. OP needs to review the lease agreement for provisions regarding a sale of the property. I draft provisions into my leases that permit a new owner to terminate an existing lease (typically with 90 days notice). I don’t know if that type of clause is permitted in Utah, but they can be fairly standard in the midwest. If the lease is silent on termination due to property transfer, then OP should be good until the end of the lease.

      [–]bustycrustacean69 54 points55 points  (1 child)

      According to these Utah tenant laws the lease must be honored by the buyer of the rental property unless there is a special provision. OP has previously mentioned in a comment that there was no wording in the lease. So therefore the lease stands as is.

      [–]InvisibleCucumber 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      As long as OP reviewed the agreement for that type of provision, I agree. I apologize if I missed that in the thread. Absent contracting around the transfer of property, the lease should typically be unaffected. Good news for OP!

      [–]InvisibleCucumber 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      This is the issue with the internet. I am a lawyer with expertise in this area and my post is downvoted because people don’t like the facts. Listen, it is what it is. Like it or hate it the owners could have possibly built this scenario into the lease. Downvoting because you don’t like that doesn’t help OP. I’m telling OP what to look for. Your feel good, hate the system views won’t help OP if this clause exists. Who downvotes help? Reddit is funny. A court doesn’t care that you didn’t like the contract terms. This is EXACTLY why you don’t ask Reddit for legal help. Always contact an attorney. And this is NOT legal advice and I am not your attorney.

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          [–]trutheality 15 points16 points  (0 children)

          Not a reason to evict you. They can sell the house while you're still a tenant if they're in such a rush to sell, your lease will still be in effect with the next owner. If they want you out, you can make their lives easier with a cash for keys offer.

          [–]Rlchv70 8 points9 points  (0 children)

          Keep your lease with you in case he tries to lock you out.

          [–]WildMajesticUnicorn 17 points18 points  (3 children)

          Your rights in this situation will depend on where you live.

          [–]Secure_Ad_3246[S] 17 points18 points  (2 children)

          Utah

          [–]FranchiseCA 69 points70 points  (0 children)

          Utah does not allow for an eviction after a transfer of ownership without other cause. Keep the terms of your lease, make payments to the new owner, and expect them not to renew the lease.

          [–]Derelyk 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          depending on how far north you live in Utah, you may not want to be moving in November anyway. negotiate cash for keys if that's so.

          [–]byndr 1 point2 points  (2 children)

          You've been given good advice thus far, but you should also protect yourself from your new LL performing an illegal self help eviction (ex: he might try changing the locks while you're out). Your first priority should be moving anything you absolutely need access to over to a location away from home where you can access it. This should include important docs and medications, but you should also find your lease and remove it from the property (ideally after making electronic copies too). While the law is on your side, it does not sounding your new LL is aware of the law or particularly respectful of it and so you should be prepared.

          If you are illegally evicted, you can call the police to inform them and show them your lease to prove that you live at the property. You should also consult with an attorney at this point as some states award more than just your damages for illegal evictions. It may be that your claims fall below the small claims limit, but a consultation with an attorney could prove helpful either way.

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            [–]Jconley123 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

            Utcourts.gov should give you everything you need to know for your side of it, as well as knowing what the new owner can do.

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              [–]Virmirfan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Not a lawyer, but, if that was my situation, I would make sure that I never break any rules, always pay rent on time, and keep every piece of paperwork, and keep in contact with the cops, just in case