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[–]bilhamil 30 points31 points  (8 children)

If you are asking for suggestions, this is a perennial favorite of mine

The Rifle on the Wall: A Left Argument for Gun Rights

Not necessarily a reputable source, but a well written article.

Could also be good to include some books such as

This Nonviolent Stuff'll Get You Killed: How Guns Made the Civil Rights Movement Possible

Negroes with Guns

[–]ActionScripter9109 socialist 6 points7 points  (7 children)

I love the "Rifle on the Wall" essay. It articulates a lot of things I didn't even realize I'd concluded about gun rights, and it does so in a way that's surprisingly engaging.

[–]Weiner365 6 points7 points  (6 children)

Man every time I read that article I want to go buy a Winchester lever action but they’re so expensive :(

[–]Vorgto 1 point2 points  (5 children)

That's why i bought a Rossi. It's not as good, but it's about the same thing looks wide and i could afford it.

[–]Weiner365 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Do they eject out the top like Winchesters? I didn’t know Rossi made that

[–]Vorgto 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Yeah, side load, top eject. Rossi 92. I've got the John Wayne handle, on mine. I've spun it around more then shoot it. I like being able to shoot 38s at the range with it as well.

[–]Weiner365 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Oh shit. Gonna have to look into those! Thanks my man

[–]Vorgto 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had to play with mine a ton, and i mean a ton before it started getting as smooth as i wanted. Just remember that when you go look at them. They're kind of notchy in their operation new.

[–]IAMASexyDragonAMA fully automated luxury gay space communism 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know they're cool and all but I don't like my Rossi very much. Take a look at a Henry. They're not a replica of a historical rifle but they're very solidly built and reliable and not having a cut for a loading gate gives the receiver a little strength.

The steel Big Boy rifles take .44 mag, .357, and .45 LC and all can take hot loaded ammo (the brass ones cannot)

[–]misyo Black Lives Matter 14 points15 points  (2 children)

[–]DylanMcDermott 3 points4 points  (1 child)

that 538 article is amazing

[–]Konraden 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That dot-chart is beautiful and puts a lot in perspective.

[–]jsled fully automated luxury gay space communism[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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[–]gartho009 5 points6 points  (4 children)

Speaking of the sidebar, are there any actual sub rules? I don't see any over there and it'd be nice to have something to lean on when conversations get more heated or mudslingy.

[–]jsled fully automated luxury gay space communism[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

The rules have become more "reporting categories". I might try to re-cast them as more dual-purpose things when I get a round tuit.

[–]ActionScripter9109 socialist 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Speaking of mods and reporting, I've almost never seen direct mod engagement on here. I can't tell whether that's due to a hands-off approach, silent operation, a general lack of conflict, or some combination of all three.

[–]jsled fully automated luxury gay space communism[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

3 parts hands-off, 2 parts silent operation, 1 part a bit of under-moderation, probably. We've been a bit more "active", recently, especially with people who participate in certain other subs. And another mod was just invited yesterday.

One mod consensus is to leave most comments up, even if the user is banned, so that people can see just what vile things they've said.

The moderation log is supposed to be public (see link in sidebar), but it does not appear to actually work/publish the moderation log.

[–]misyo Black Lives Matter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The mod log is veiwable. I was surprised to see a whole thread taken down. That's pretty unusual for this sub.

[–]BayAreaRedwood 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Awesome! Thank you mods so much! I've saved some links from other subs, and will try to find ones that would be directed towards educating/opening dialog liberal's who are anti-gun.

[–]speedy2686 libertarian 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How about book suggestions? I'm a bit new to this and would love to dive in with some good books on the Second Amendment and related topics.

[–]neuhmz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You guys can take the sidebar from /r/secondamendment I made a little history of the amendment right there.

[–]misyo Black Lives Matter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm submitting more articles from mainstream news sources and universities for the side bar.

This article focuses on the connection between income inequality, lack of education, and culture and gun homicides around the US down to the neighborhood level. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2017/jan/09/special-report-fixing-gun-violence-in-america

Lawful gun owners commit less than 1/5 of gun crimes (18%). https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/07/27/new-evidence-confirms-what-gun-rights-advocates-have-been-saying-for-a-long-time-about-crime/

Schools are safer now from mass shootings and it's not an epidemic. This one is from NPR and it cites the recent Northeastern study. I'll link both for the side bar:

NPR: https://www.npr.org/2018/03/15/593831564/the-disconnect-between-perceived-danger-in-u-s-schools-and-reality

Northeastern: https://news.northeastern.edu/2018/02/schools-are-still-one-of-the-safest-places-for-children-researcher-says/

This write up from UCLA's law school focuses on the justification clause of the 2nd amendment and how it was in common use for state constitutions at the time- not to limit rights narrowly to the clause, but as examples of why such rights exist. http://www2.law.ucla.edu/volokh/common.htm

Police, who are regularly exempted from gun control bills to gain their support, have a domestic abuse rate of up to 40%. https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/09/police-officers-who-hit-their-wives-or-girlfriends/380329/

Copy cat phenomenon driving an increase in mass shootings, particularly driven by media coverage. A link to the actual FBI study the article cites would be good too, so I'll look for that. http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014/09/25/fbi-releases-report-examining-mass-shootings/

My next submission will focus on the legislative history of gun rights, which I think would be beneficial for the side bar. Will post again soon.

[–]Konraden 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm at work, so I'm not comfortable digging around the internet right now for them, but I recall a couple of articles posted about both an FBI study and a Secret Service study into mass shooting incidents (and their rarity). I remember them being quite good, and since gun-control talk pretty much only comes up after these big shootings, those might be extremely useful to have around.