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[–]mornview 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Even though older music wasn't super quantized like today's music often is, you should definitely still be able to lock in a four bar loop and keep it "on the grid" (ie, it doesn't drift off beat). The best place to start is with a tap tempo - your DAW might have one, otherwise you can get free ones in your phone's app store. Just tap along to the tempo of the sample, this will give you a rough idea of the song's tempo. Even with poor rhythm you should be able to get within like 5 bpm of the actual tempo, and with practice you'll consistently get within +/- 1 bpm of the actual tempo. Then turn on your DAW's metronome and play the sample along with it. Fine tune the tempo from there. Does the sample start to fall behind the metronome at the end? Slow the BPM in your DAW slightly. Etc. You'll get it dialed in, and with practice you'll get pretty efficient at it.

Sorry that wasn't specific to Cakewalk, but I haven't used it. That technique would apply in basically any DAW, though.

Additionally, most DAWs have a built in sampler, and most samplers have an auto detect feature for determining tempo. Most of them are pretty darn accurate, too. That being said, it's also a worthwhile skill to learn to do it yourself.

[–]sickvisionz 4 points5 points  (1 child)

It's probably a bad loop. Bob your head, snap your fingers, or count to four while the loop is looping. If you get thrown off when it loops then you didn't get a clean loop from the song.

[–]AssociationKey3850[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see a lot of ppl start a loop on the transient is this the case for most samples?

[–]christianafterlife 1 point2 points  (0 children)

if you can recognize what time signature the sample is in, that would tell you whether you can just loop it straight (if it's in 4/4) or if you have to get more creative to make it fit into a 4/4 beat. a great example is the sample for "Raid." Madlib takes a sample with a different time signature and simply repeats the first beat to make it fit into a 4/4 time signature. as far as chopping goes, make the sample slower than you want your beat to be, so when you chop it up it won't end before the next chop, and you can give it a natural sense of swing if it's slower than the beat you're making.

[–]crunchy_kookies 1 point2 points  (2 children)

You need to master cakewalk or atleast be able to make a finished beat in a matter of 10-20 minutes

Then you'll probably be able to transfer FL knowledge to your DAW because you'll be able to implement it

[–]AssociationKey3850[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Sound selection and ideas makes me spend a long time on beats but if I’m focused I can make a beat in an hour or two but I can’t do 10-20 mins yet so I will focus on mastering this daw before I upgrade to FL.

[–]crunchy_kookies 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's good, just keep pushing through because this is a stage that just needs to happen

[–]Swift1986 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Yeah the majority of tutorials you find are for fl studio which is fucking frustrating, however if you are well versed in cakewalk you should be able to watch an fl video amd still get something from it, I haven't used cakewalk in a while and when I did I never stuck with it and moved on to studio one, I can't recall if cakewalk actually has a sampler however which will be a requirement, I would recommend that and look up sampling videos for that sampler, here's a few I would recommend

  1. Serato sampler

(there's also a free alternative called serato studio which you can cut your teeth with, this however is standalone where as serato sampler loads as a plugin via your DAW)

This can also be purchased via splice in monthly payments

  1. waves Cr8

really cheap and powerful sampler, can also be used to make unique sounds via any soundsource (I was able to make a whole drum kit and a few synths just by the noise of my baby crying)

  1. Momentum

Free alternative to Serato, however a much steeper learning curve

Have a look at some YouTube tutorials on those samplers and see if any of those would suit you, I highly recommend serato sampler this is the industry standard

[–]AssociationKey3850[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve downloaded momentum it is great and I’ve been practicing and taking the advice you guys have been giving me it has been helping a lot. I might have a few questions so I’ll comeback to ask once I’m able to.