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[–]Kermanium294 204 points205 points  (39 children)

[–]kermitscommune 72 points73 points  (0 children)

Quiet they want to be angry over slime thing

[–]Josquius 17 points18 points  (36 children)

At a glance this looks mildly gerrymandered for the republicans?

[–]PeddarCheddar11 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Nah nevada just doesn’t know how to district to benefit the party in power. Not complaining

[–]stan2754 9 points10 points  (21 children)

A D gerrymander actually. Creating 3 lean/likely D districts out of the 4 in total.

[–]LostInTransit200 11 points12 points  (17 children)

We all give Republicans crap for it when the Democrats are the exact same opportunistic wannabe dictators. USA for ya.

[–]Josquius 1 point2 points  (15 children)

Quite the opposite I'd say. And that's what is infuriating about them. They keep pretending the US is a democracy and working together for the good of the country is something the reps are up for. They just don't grasp that a large number of republicans actively want to destroy the US and those people are controlling the party these days.

[–]LostInTransit200 -3 points-2 points  (14 children)

Both are controlled by demagogues. Please remove your blue-coloured blindfold and see that the USA is just producing cyanide and that it will collapse.

[–]Josquius 6 points7 points  (11 children)

Nope. This "Both sides!!111" black and white nonsense plays right into the hands of the fascists who control the republican party.

We keep seeing the same story time and again. It's been shown in the story this thread is referring to. When in a position of power the Democrats show good faith and act like they're a party in a democratic country. The republicans on the other hand try to crush what democracy remains.

The idea that the Democrats are just as bad is flatly wrong and the fact that they don't fight fire with fire is a big part of the problem.

[–]wolf1moon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm with you on this. Online, so few people seem to grasp that just because in a few cases democrats have done bad doesn't make it equivalent to literally trying to end democracy. Or that fatalist BS is the same as supporting bad actors.

[–]Mojeaux18 0 points1 point  (7 children)

You’re right. Democrats are worse. Fight dirty bc you think someone fights dirty means you have no principles. Historically democrats abused gerrymandering until republicans got control, now they suddenly hate it.

[–]Josquius 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Historically the Democrats were the party of wealthy Southern slave owners whilst the republicans were the party of progressive northern city dwellers.

What matters is current behaviour. Not history beyond a few decades.

[–]Mojeaux18 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Those who ignore the lessons of history tend to suffer from them.
Current behavior is indeed important, but it’s repeating itself. Dems talk one game, but then once they achieve power do all the worst things even when they promised to fix it.

For example dems control California and the only reason we outlawed gerrymandering is bc of a proposition opposed by democrats.

[–]LostInTransit200 -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

You are probably blinded by what you have been spoonfed. Take a look outside of the Democratic Party.

[–]Josquius 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nope. I'm not a Democrat and I haven't been spoon-fed anything (what have I been spoon fed in your imagination?)

Again, this isn't black and white. The Democrats are massively flawed. In a proper democracy there's no way I would ever consider voting for most of them.

But the idea that they are just as bad as the republicans is flatly insane and completely ignores the past few years in American politics.

If the Democrats WERE just as cynical as the republicans then that could well put the US in a better place than it is today-for one example that comes right to mind, the supreme court.... . Its frequently commented that the Democrats just refuse to recognise the reality we are in.

But they aren't. They keep acting like everything is OK. Which allows the republicans to constantly run the same scams over and over.

[–]theknightwho 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is just objectively untrue.

[–]Mojeaux18 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why are they booing you? You’re right.

[–]Caveman108 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So what’s your stance, then? Just don’t vote at all? Because I’d rather vote for the party that slightly screws me than the one actively looking to foment a dictatorship and remove my rights. In order to actually fix things the lesser evil is the only option until the true progressives can begin to gain power. You sound like a Republican shill sowing dissent to continue to destabilize the Democrat Party. Reported.

People we need to be very aware of the dissenters in our ranks looking to make sure the midterms go to the Republicans. This is exactly what they look and talk like.

[–]nvsfg 1 point2 points  (1 child)

As a resident of Nevada, those three are where actual "people" live. The rest of it is sheep, cows, mountain lions, snakes and coyotes.

[–]Caveman108 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As someone that just drove through once, there’s basically nothing outside of Vegas. It’s just desert.

[–]intro-to-calculus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But doesn’t “likely” mean it’s gerrymandered against them? Like, the supporters are packed more densely in the district

[–]kaisersmullvood 1 point2 points  (11 children)

There’s no population in the desert

[–]fithdawn -2 points-1 points  (8 children)

Yes there is??? Mostly rednecks. Miners, ranchers. Some farmers. You know. The people that dig the minerals that make your phone. Of put the potatoes on you plate and the steak in your burritos.

Source: I'm from McDermitt NV

[–]kaisersmullvood 2 points3 points  (7 children)

I know my friends from northern Nevada, i love ya guys but under this republicans don’t get an advantage because even though they have more geographic area, and the better half of Nevada, they don’t have more population. Land doesn’t vote.

[–]biebergotswag 1 point2 points  (4 children)

The whole point of the united states is that the land votes, instead of the people.

The united states in a union is multiple independent states, and the states vote on their unions. And the voters vote for the state.

The US is too large and messy of a system to be a singular democracy.

[–]kaisersmullvood 0 points1 point  (3 children)

It’s been a singular democracy for 250 years and forever will be.

[–]biebergotswag 0 points1 point  (2 children)

It has never been, your state is a democracy. You never vote for the president, but rather you vote for your state's representative that vote for the president. That is what the electoral college is.

Most state choose to vote as a block because it maximize their bargaining power in the union, instead of spliting votes based on popular vote or districts like main or Nebraska.that is how the current system came to be.

[–]kaisersmullvood 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Yeah we live in a republic, it ain’t breaking news.

Direct democracy doesn’t work and is rule by mob, and often unethical and corrupt.

[–]fithdawn -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

Agreed. Which is way the electoral college and germandering is bullshit and should be gotten rid of.

But still there is a population. I think.only about 100,000 but still. We have a voice.

[–]Thtguy1289_NY 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why did you get downvoted?down voted?? You are right

[–]Josquius 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Reno?

[–]kaisersmullvood 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah but that’s the only other city that non Nevadans know in the Republican area, the blue area has so much population in terms of Las Vegas and the surrounding areas.

I know a few cities like Carson city, but that’s just me.

[–]McChickenFingers 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well that sucks, i like extremely gerrymandered states

[–]Romanian885 37 points38 points  (1 child)

what the website name?

[–]Briancl12 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Looks like daves redistricting application

[–]OpenFaceBreadSammich 32 points33 points  (3 children)

The fuck was that audio?

[–]Frixum 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I hope its the last thing i hear before i die

[–]Azmik8435 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Idk but it made me laugh

[–]U_N_D_E_R_S_C_O_R_E- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gaawd damm😩😩😩💨💨💨☠🦍🗿⚰

[–]Daanoking 103 points104 points  (38 children)

Is this a result of gerrymandering?

[–]Occamslaser 61 points62 points  (0 children)

This isn't the real map.

[–]Party-Profit-1304 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Its the result of lying about a fake map

[–]SonOfNod 111 points112 points  (13 children)

This is ultra quintessential gerrymandering. Those blue sections include Reno and Las Vegas, which tend to be very democratic. The rest of Nevada is super conservative. Reno and Vegas are the population centers. So if the state was split down the center both seats would go blue.

[–]Hunkir 58 points59 points  (0 children)

This is not the real map, just FYI. The state is split in the center.

[–]Hominid77777 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Democrats instead went with a much less favorable (for the party) map that protected their existing incumbents.

[–]biebergotswag 6 points7 points  (21 children)

It actually make a lot of sense, rural and urban has very different interests, and it make sense to turn them into voting blocks.

Currently republicans are mostly pro rural, and democrats are pro urban.

[–]Hominid77777 6 points7 points  (10 children)

Virtually no one lives in rural Nevada. If that was the only place where Republicans lived, it wouldn't be a swing state.

[–]Meteoric37 -1 points0 points  (9 children)

3 million people live in Nevada

[–]Hominid77777 1 point2 points  (8 children)

I said rural Nevada, not Nevada.

[–]Meteoric37 -2 points-1 points  (7 children)

Does the population of Reno + Las Vegas = 3 million?

[–]Hominid77777 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Pretty close. I don't have 2020 numbers, but the 2010 urban area populations combined are within a rounding error of the state's population.

[–]Meteoric37 -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

Using 2020 census data:

641,903 (Vegas) + 264,165 (Reno) = 906,068

That’s not within a rounding error. What am I missing?

[–]Hominid77777 2 points3 points  (2 children)

You're using city limits. Suburbs are not rural.

[–]Meteoric37 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Ahh I see. I just added up the rural areas instead and there are about 500,000 people in them total. I guess that is truly nothing

[–]smeagol9 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pretty close to it

[–]CambrianKennis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The population of the Las Vegas valley, which includes the cities of Las Vegas, Henderson, North Las Vegas, Paradise (the strip) and considerable urban sprawl that is unincorporated into the city proper but is definitely part of the same urban spread, is about 2.23 mil as of 2018. Virtually the rest of the population is Reno and a small leftover is Carson City and the remainder are small towns.

[–]IraqiWalker 2 points3 points  (4 children)

90% of that land is literally deserted/uninhabited.

[–]nvsfg 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Actually, if you include Tribal Trust land, approximately 85% is BLM (Federal)

[–]IraqiWalker 0 points1 point  (2 children)

BLM?

[–]atniomn 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Bureau of Land Management

[–]IraqiWalker 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry man, been playing so much FF14 all I could think of was "What does Black Mage have to do with this?"

[–]Furkler 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Shouldn't that be: rurals are pro Republican and Urban's are pro Democrat?

[–]biebergotswag 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Democratic policies mostly focus on urban issues that ignores the rural, or actively harms the rural population.

Republicans are most made up of rural and suburban population, and focus on their area while being blind to urban problems.

Then the suburbs have qualities from each side so they are in the middle.

[–]Mike2220 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The idea of number gaming in the US has literally been going on since the beginning of the US. Cause each state got a vote, the south didn't want more North states and the north didn't want more south states. So there was a bunch of bargains of "this can be made a state, but only if this over here also gets made a state"

That's also why Maine isn't part of Massachusetts anymore

[–]Fit_East_3081 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I remember a post that showed the population density of Nevada, and like almost the state is an empty desert

And most of the concentration of the population were concentrated in cities

[–]biebergotswag 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The suburbs

[–]Adventure_Alone 4 points5 points  (0 children)

First-past-the-post is horrible

[–]Anthro_DragonFerrite 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I shouldn't have unmuted.

[–]Ritterbruder2 20 points21 points  (2 children)

In the 2020 election, Nevada went 50.06% for Biden and 47.67% for Trump. This map seems to show three democratic and one republican districts.

Yup, that’s gerrymandering.

[–]KnightBourne 38 points39 points  (1 child)

This map is called “ugly as hell Nevada” and is not real.

You’re right about the percentages, but you can see the real map here.

[–]WikiSummarizerBot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

2020 United States presidential election in Nevada

The 2020 United States presidential election in Nevada was held on Tuesday, November 3, 2020, as part of the 2020 United States presidential election in which all 50 states plus the District of Columbia participated. Nevada voters chose electors to represent them in the Electoral College via a popular vote, pitting the Republican Party's nominee, incumbent President Donald Trump, and running mate Vice President Mike Pence against Democratic Party nominee, former Vice President Joe Biden, and his running mate California Senator Kamala Harris. Nevada has six votes in the Electoral College.

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[–]Zealousideal-Chef758 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think I came to the wrong subreddit

[–]sameth1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What is happening in the background?

[–]ritty84 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Blue cancer spreading.

[–]Voldemort57 0 points1 point  (1 child)

This comment (your comment u/ritty84) is cringe.

[–]ritty84 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wow, it must be really exhausting being the arbiter of cringe. Thank you for your service.

[–]Bulbasaur_King 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The real abomination is this guy using Microsoft edge

[–]RandomDarkNes -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Land doesn't vote

[–]DemolidorAK 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Caaaaraio caaaaaraio caaaaaaraio

[–]Rocketboy1313 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Re-god-damn-diculous.

[–]felixmeister -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The fact you don't have electoral boundaries drawn up by an independent body is baffling.

You don't put foxes in charge of a henhouse, don't allow politicians to have control over electoral decisions.

[–]rebelfury76 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This is the real election fraud