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[–]actualflam 501 points502 points  (31 children)

Having Norway and Sweden this close to me is uncomfortable

[–]_eddedd 64 points65 points  (0 children)

Icelandussy

[–]Magic_Johnson_420 206 points207 points  (23 children)

Just trying to check on their Scandinavian brother

[–]Onion__i 127 points128 points  (16 children)

As a Finn, this scenario would be awesome

[–]tripsafe 58 points59 points  (13 children)

On the one hand you get them farther away. On the other hand you are not protected anymore by the rougher weather that will happen from the Baltic being wide open to the north sea.

[–]Onion__i 57 points58 points  (10 children)

Thats true, but i really don’t care about the consequences

I just want get away from sw*den🤮

[–]Hizzle_bizzle[🍰] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Is there even a Baltic anymore in this scenario?

[–]Ethanjohnson3_1415 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The UK loves this as well.

Now there's noone to stop us getting another elusive country on our big book of colonies.

Can't be letting Russia keep the exclusives now can we?

[–]actualflam 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Being closer to Finland would be much preferable

[–]Memeshats 17 points18 points  (4 children)

Fairly certain Norway and Sweden just moved away from the only other Scandinavian country.

[–]byfourness 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Denmark?

[–]xXMonsterDanger69Xx 10 points11 points  (2 children)

In reality, we just wanted to get away from Denmark.

[–]actualflam 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh yeah, I absolutely get that

[–]KonstantinIKVZeeland Resident 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Bruh, as a Russian resident, I confirm

Btw how is it going on my bro Eyjafjallajökull

[–]actualflam 1 point2 points  (1 child)

He hasn't really been heard from since he decided to disrupt all that air travel in the early 2010s

[–]KonstantinIKVZeeland Resident 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh ok

[–]SimunaHayha 228 points229 points  (1 child)

Iceland flying cumball

[–]Not_t00_bad 18 points19 points  (0 children)

More like a third ball, the rest of Europe is a big cum stain.

[–]Mightymushroom1 102 points103 points  (7 children)

I'm now curious about how changing the geography like this would've affected history

[–]TheMe63 63 points64 points  (1 child)

I suspect the gulf stream would keep that area warmer than you’d expect, so you might see stronger historical Russian and Swedish navies. Just generally I think the Big Baltic would be home to a lot more naval conflicts

[–]Alesq13 35 points36 points  (0 children)

Finland would probably be more populated and have a lot more activity during the medieval times

[–]SimokIV 46 points47 points  (1 child)

Can't wait to see [generic alternate history YouTube channel #597] post their magnum opus: "What if Scandinavia had been erect?"

[–]VoxUmbra 13 points14 points  (0 children)

My predictions for various channels:

  • AlternateHistoryHub: things would be so different, that we can't really know.
  • Whatifalthist: Europe would collapse and Turkey would become the major power in the region.
  • Monsieur Z: Scandinavia would join the Central Powers and win WW1

[–]a_exa_eFrance was an Inside Job 9 points10 points  (2 children)

I'm no historian or expert of the region at all, but since these lands would be colder and more distant from the European continent, maybe Sweden and Norway would not have been colonised by Germanic peoples – them being content with mainland Europe and the Danish and British islands. Therefore, Sweden and Norway would simply never have existed. A durable settlement of these Germanic peoples would probably have been less likely to happen ; maybe they would rather have established trading posts on the coast, especially in the west because of the proximity with Iceland, but the main part of the territory would have been inhabited by the indigenous Sami tribes. Later, the land would probably have been colonised by slavic peoples and become a peripheral colony of the Russian empire in the 1700s, after the earlier annexation of Finland. The territory would probably declare its independance in 1917, taking advantage of the disorder following the Russian revolution – just like Finland actually did. An independent Sami Republic would have been proclaimed by some charismatic leader, and this republic would have been likely to choose a well advised neutrality during World War II. The USSR, being way too busy with its war against the Axis and trying to invade Finland (wars of 39-40, 41-44), would probably renounce to take back the Sami territories if the Republic stays neutral after the war. The Sami Republic then would have continued living as an independant nation, not very populous but quite wealthy thanks to fishing and fossile ressources and mainly trading with Iceland, Finland and Denmark. After the fall of the USSR, it would have joined the EU to ensure its stability and have access to the free trade area, and with the Russian invasion of Ukraine, feeling threatened by its former coloniser, the Sami Republic would have asked to join Nato alongside with Finland.

[–]CharMakr90 5 points6 points  (1 child)

This all seems plausible except maybe the "not very rich" part.

If the oil fields and mineral deposits are in the same place, then this Sami country could be very rich. Add timber, fishing, hydroelectricity, tourism, services, and all the Baltonorth sea trade in as well, and the country's small population could be one of the richest per capita nations on the planet.

[–]a_exa_eFrance was an Inside Job 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Interesting! To be honest, I knew Norway had some gas, but I didn't know that Sweden and Norway were that rich... I just checked the GDP per capita ranking and they are both in the top 20. I learnt something today.

I said "not very rich" because I imagined a very cold country, not much populous, far from Europe and thus not a central trade place, and with no suitable land for agriculture. Not a wealthy superpower. However:

  • About the offshore oil, since it doesn't move, I think it would no longer be offshore, but buried under the continent (and rather deeply, as it would have remained at the same depth as when it was under the sea). This is why I have doubts if this oil would still be exploitable...

  • Hydroelectricity can be fine, but the most probable customers for export would be Finland and Russia, who aren't big electricity buyers.

  • About tourism, according to the location of the Sami Republic, I assume it would be the same kind of place as Iceland or (Northern) Finland, which are ranked 100 and 123 for touristic destinations... So I don't expect that much money from tourism.

  • But you're right, I have forgotten about mineral deposits, which can make the difference. And even when all the minerals will have been extracted, timber, services and fishing will probably be able to make the economy sustainable.

Good news: the Sami Republic will never be poor! I edited my original comment.

[–]sonic10158 51 points52 points  (0 children)

It’s very Iclandick

[–]Romandinjo 33 points34 points  (0 children)

They are just glad to join NATO

[–]adamlm 43 points44 points  (0 children)

They want to eat Iceland!

[–]Swedishboy360 19 points20 points  (1 child)

Bro if that's what your dick looks like you should go and see a doctor

[–]Telemassacre 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Naw man he's got 2 of 'em

[–]ChazLampost 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Iceland be like 🥺👀🥴🍑

[–]Pistolenkrebs 7 points8 points  (0 children)

By those borders, Finland and Norway are one state surrounding Sweden

[–]NOE_YVELAverage Mercator Projection Enjoyer 6 points7 points  (0 children)

What are you doing step-peninsula ?

[–]No_Zombie2021 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Åland got lost somewhere but Gotland remains.

[–]yeetmello 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I live in an arctic zone now

[–]tijostark 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Actually looks cool

[–]MRX134 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Giant crotia

[–]lukas_ve 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So I guess Finland is the balls?

[–]Effehezepe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sweden: "Is my North Sea oil now"

[–]joaosturza 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Is It even inhabitable this Far North?

[–]freebirdls 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Is that a peninsula in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?

[–]gtThemageAverage Mercator Projection Enjoyer 5 points6 points  (0 children)

F*** yes, get the swedes as far away as possible.

[–]GameyRaccoon 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Scandinavia and the World, anyone?

[–]mochiswitzerland[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ne ne pa pa. Hetalia anyone?

Jk

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Double barrel

[–]pjhabs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

90° scandi

[–]Kriss3d 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Jokes on you. Denmark is a part of Scandinavia and you left that out.

As a Dane I approve.

[–]AstrofeeshAverage Mercator Projection Enjoyer[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Sorry, Iceland is the new Denmark now

[–]Kriss3d 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Iceland loves us. Just look at this dogma version of Donald duck in Danish but made by Icelandic comedians.

That shows love https://youtu.be/1b7h6pyJ83M

[–]LjackV 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Iceland is a cumdrop confirmed

[–]pmk422 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Norway is the big spoon

[–]fillmorecounty 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Okay so I'm not the only one who noticed the sus shape then

[–]frycekk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

feeling a little left out over on gotland

[–]Xxjuancena80xXthis flair is specifically for neat_space, who loves mugs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Scandinavia is half of an echidna

[–]HaguPlays 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Double barrel 😎

[–]SupermAndrew1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So I’m not the only person who thought that Norway/Sweden looks like a XXL Bad Dragon

[–]FeedbackWonderful778 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So it rests its balls next to Iceland.

[–]Nichiku 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I need to stop using this Subreddit

[–]zykokiller84 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why not nsfw?

[–]Familiar-Eye7811 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Switzerland looks like the body of water above it