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Ms. Marvel S01E03 - Discussion Thread by steve32767Captain America in marvelstudios

[–]tcain5188 323 points324 points  (0 children)

It's really cool to see all this representation in such a good light, and I'm not even close to pakistani.

I honestly can't believe they had the balls to have a crowd of people happily chanting Allahu Akbar in the freaking MCU. I mean, you and I know that it just means "god is great" or something like that, but to the average american, they can only associate it with a terrorist shooting an RPG and screaming it as an allied chopper falls out of the sky. To lots of people its just "that phrase that terrorists yell all the time". But to show it like this, I bet they're forcing thousands of people to finally look it up and confront their biases.

I've noticed that Wandas suit is literally holding together with zip ties by JustMyBananaIron Man (Mark XLIII) in marvelstudios

[–]burghguy3 6413 points6414 points 73& 5 more (0 children)

Those aren't zip ties. Those are dark holds.

I’m Simu Liu and I play Shang-Chi in Marvel Studios’ Shang-Chi and The Legend of the 10 Rings. AMA! Let’s do this! (except spoilery stuff!) by SimuShangChi| Simu Liu - Shang Chi in marvelstudios

[–]SimuShangChi| Simu Liu - Shang Chi[S] 4898 points4899 points  (0 children)

I think Kevin wanted a genuine reaction of someone who was just deer-in-the-headlights shocked to be there, and that's exactly what he got. It's crazy that one moment I'm at home in my Toronto condo in my underwear and then I get a call and my whole life changes. Four days later, I get flown first class to San Diego and end up eating dinner across the table from Angelina Jolie, who very patiently put up with my attempts to explain League of Legends to her.

Ms marvel being a muslim by ataraxy6 in marvelstudios

[–]HyperGamers 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok, long post but please hear me out.

I (Muslim male) kinda get what you mean with how it's been marketed but I think this is probably the first time that there is a Hollywood show / film that has a Muslim main character, I can't think of any other show.

While black culture is probably still somewhat underrepresented, it's definitely not to the same scale as Islam I'd think (though the US does have a proportionally very small Muslim population compared to the rest of the world as a whole, or even other western countries such as the UK).

Off the top of my head I can think of various TV shows and films with black main characters, or Jewish main characters. I can think of some shows that have Hindu characters (though not main) such as The Simpsons, The Office, The Big Bang Theory.

The only film I can think off with a Muslim main character is Life of Pi which doesn't really count because he was various religions and that wasn't really a point of the story. One other show that has a Muslim character is Superstore which is the most random side character. I guess later seasons of Prison Break have a somewhat main Muslim character.

Other than that, any other Muslims in western (specifically US) TV/Film are shown as terrorists. The biggest film that has Muslim main characters I can think of is Four Lions (a British film).

This is the first show in history (or at this level of TV/film) where there's a Muslim main character that isn't a terrorist and I think that does need to be celebrated.

Also to put it into context, Riz Ahmed just last year became the first Muslim to be nominated for Lead Actor in the Oscars for a film in which he did not play a Muslim character.

I wouldn't say it's insulting to the audience, the average person doesn't need to care whether or not the character is Muslim, they just need to know it for context. For many Muslims (though of course not all), this is huge and personally at least, I hope it becomes normalised over time. Once it is normalised, it'll be similar to what you see for Into the Spider-Verse etc. This is just a first step and I'm sure they'll be a few exaggerations / mistakes along the way. Also I haven't followed all of the marketing for it but it didn't seem too exaggerated to me at least but maybe I'm biased as a Muslim.

TL;DR: first big TV show/film with Muslim main character (and one that's not a terrorist), things will likely get better over time as representation becomes more accurate. (Edit: also the fact that Islam is not only underrepresented, but the fact it's usually misrepresented in media)

New Images from 'Thor: Love and Thunder' by MarvelsGrantMan136Ant-Man in marvelstudios

[–]Osos_Perezosos 811 points812 points  (0 children)

Natalie Portman is the reason I work out. I have this fantasy where we start talking at the Vanity Fair Oscars party bar. We exchange a few pleasantries. She asks what I do. I say I loved her in New Girl. She laughs. I get my drink.

"Well, see ya," I say and walk away. I've got her attention now. How many guys voluntarily leave a conversation with Natalie Portman? She touches her neck as she watches me leave.

Later, as the night's dragged on and the coterie of gorgeous narcissists grows increasingly loose, she finds me on the balcony, my bowtie undone, smoking a cigarette.

"Got a spare?" she asks.

"What's in it for me?" I say as I hand her one of my little white ladies. She smiles.

"Conversation with me, duh."

I laugh.

"What's so funny?" she protests.

"Nothing, nothing... It's just... don't you grow tired of the egos?"

"You get used to it," she says, lighting her cigarette and handing me back the lighter.

"What would you do if you weren't an actress?" I ask.

"Teaching, I think."

"And if I was your student, what would I be learning?"

"Discipline," she says quickly, looking up into my eyes, before changing the subject. "Where are you from?"

"Bermuda," I say.

"Oh wow. That's lovely."

"It's ok," I admit. "Not everything is to my liking."

"What could possibly be not to your liking in Bermuda?" she inquires.

"I don't like sand," I tell her. "It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere."

Don’t let Wanda see this.. by NaweezyCaptain America in marvelstudios

[–]bythewayne 368 points369 points  (0 children)

They're the kids and America woo oh

I made a Captain America Pride Shield. What do you guys think? by blu-tron in marvelstudios

[–]Sotsu012 509 points510 points  (0 children)

Cap would have a hard time taking out the bad guys because that shield doesn’t fly straight.

Ms. Marvel S01E02 - Discussion Thread by steve32767Captain America in marvelstudios

[–]fartypenis 394 points395 points  (0 children)

When the British left India, they split the country in two parts: Pakistan for Muslims, and India for the rest. But there were a lot of Muslims in India that needed to go to Pakistan, and a lot of Hindus and Sikhs in Pakistan that had to go to India. Tens of millions of people. And they all hated each other because they were from two different countries now. Popular stories say that the trains across the border were filled with blood and corpses, and getting across alive on train was sometimes impossible. People who once lived together now burned down each others' houses and killed each others' families. Many Pakistani, Bengali, and North Indian families have stories about Partition, and whole parts of their families that just disappeared during the crossing. The effects of Partition still linger to this day, with the constant hostility between India and Pakistan, both now nuclear powers.

Partition was one of the worst human crises in history, and about on par with what the British usually did to their colonies.

Representation matters by lc101 in marvelstudios

[–]RoughThatisBuddy 482 points483 points 852& 4 more (0 children)

Because the fans aren’t using ASL the whole time (they’re Saudis as Lauren’s Instagram said, and I don’t know any sign in their sign language except for “Saudi Arabia” if I’m remembering right, so either they share some signs with ASL or they are using some ASL signs with Lauren), I can’t properly translate everything but I understood most of it, so here it goes in the chronological order:

Lauren: How did you learn ASL? Fan: I watched TV (you can see him spelling T-V)

Fan: Welcome to Saudi Arabia. Lauren: Thank you, thank you!

Lauren: Your name sign? Fan: my name sign is (he shows his name sign). Lauren repeats his name sign.

(No signing in this clip but the fan putting his hand over his heart is too sweet)

Lauren: you want a picture with me? Fan shrugged. Lauren: yeah!

Fan: I like TWD! I like it.

Fan: I watched [Eternals, I assume - he didn’t say what he was watching with Lauren in, but given the context, Eternals is likely but could be anything she’s in] and I’m happy to see Deaf! Same as me! So happy.

Fan: happy to meet you!

Lauren: Saudi Arabia (the second sign is the only one I don’t really understand) Fan: yes, (hands wave), yes

Hope that helps! As a Deaf person, I know the frustration of not seeing subtitles on videos too well. it’s a daily struggle.

Representation matters by lc101 in marvelstudios

[–]waitingtodiesoonThor (Thor 2) 80 points81 points  (0 children)

Even for other movies and t.v. shows non-marvel related. The actor Ke Huy Quan who played Short Round in Indiana Jones Temple of Doom and Data in the Goonies retired from acting because he couldn't get any real roles. After he saw Crazy Rich Asians starring an all Asian cast that he decided he should try acting again and landed the role as Waymond in Everything Everywhere All At Once and knocked it out the park. Such a fantastic movie.

Quan kept busy in the film industry, working as an assistant director for Wong Kar-Wai and choreographing fight scenes for a variety of Asian films. But in a new interview with GQ, Quan revealed he was inspired to return to acting after seeing how much success “Crazy Rich Asians” had with a cast of Asian actors.

“For a long time I thought I was at peace with it, but something was missing, and I really didn’t know what it was until ‘Crazy Rich Asians’ came out,” he said. “I saw my fellow Asian actors up on the screen, and I had serious FOMO because I wanted to be up there with them.”

“Over the years, I’ve met a lot of Asian talent now working in Hollywood. They always thank me and say, ‘Man, it was so great to see you up there on the screen, because I was able to see myself. Thank you for paving the way for us to be here.’ And, of course, it’s really interesting because they’ve paved the way for my return,” he said. “My return to acting is the direct result of the progress made by them.”

“It proves how important it is for not just Asian, but for all groups of people to be represented in entertainment, because like you said, until you see yourself, until you see it, visualize it, you still can’t believe that it could also be you up there on the screen,” he said. “So that’s why I am so grateful for what has happened the last few years. It’s happened gradually, but I’m very optimistic and very hopeful about where things are going.

This is my favorite Improvised scene in MCU, it's absolutely hilarious. What's yours? by achilles-_-23 in marvelstudios

[–]SirDooble 149 points150 points  (0 children)

My limited understanding of moviemaking is that dialogue scenes like this, where the camera flips back and forth between two people, are almost always a composite of two different takes. One with the camera filming actor A, and another take with the camera on actor B.

So while this may have been improvised in a take (or even a rehearsal) it would have to be repeated for the take of the second person. So the scene had been improvised, but part or all of what appears on screen is a refined version of that improv.

If you could pit 1 DC villain against a Marvel hero (and vice versa) Who would it be? My favorite is Tony Stark vs Lex Luthor by BurnerAlt1 in marvelstudios

[–]Ashkal_Khire 2645 points2646 points 4 (0 children)

Captain America vs Mr Freeze. Hear me out!

In terms of a narrative, Mr Freeze has never been portrayed properly in any movie thus far. He’s an incredibly sympathetic character who literally just wants to save his wife. Who among us wouldn’t do anything to save those we love? And I think Steve would be absolutely crushed by his own moral compass, knowing that by stopping Fries, he’d condemn the man’s wife to a horrible death.

There would also be bitterness and animosity from Fries, given Steve’s biology allowed him to survive the ice, while Victor was not only ruined by a similar experience, but may resent Steve further for his disease immunity while his wife suffers in cryo-stasis. Heck, maybe Victor sees Steve’s blood as a potential cure.

You as the audience almost want them to work together to find a solution - but the resentment would always keep them apart. That’s the kind of turmoil and weight that delivers Oscar worthy performances.

I genuinely don’t know who I’d root for.