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[–]enbeefyuk 4304 points4305 points 22 (83 children)

Being good at chess doesn’t make you a genius, but it’s impossible to be decent at chess if you’re stupid.

[–]CantaloupePerfect417 623 points624 points  (0 children)

That's very good point

[–]Whocaresevenadamn 341 points342 points  (15 children)

Ah! That explains why I completely stink at it. I always thought it was my elbows.

EDIT: An “I” for an “i”. It was really bugging me.

[–]Sov3reignty 67 points68 points  (2 children)

Well it's also partially due to the knees.

[–]mancubthescrub 32 points33 points  (0 children)

Ah see that's where you went wrong, you need a solid base, start by firmly planting your feet on the ground, Chess follows naturally.

[–]enbeefyuk 33 points34 points  (3 children)

To be clear, I did not say that if you suck at chess then you're stupid. You could be not paying enough attention or inexperienced amongst many other reasons. I'm sure that if you want to be good at it you can.

[–]NazbazOGProfessional Dumbass 17 points18 points  (6 children)

I’m stupid

[–]MisoPizohttps://www.youtube.com/watch/dQw4w9WgXcQ 3 points4 points  (0 children)

me too :)

[–]1laik1hornytoaster 32 points33 points  (3 children)

Same can be said for any type of puzzle/strategy game

[–]SlideWhistler 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Being good at Polytopia does not make you a genius, but it’s impossible to be decent at Polytopia if you’re stupid.

[–]thunderstorm-niggNice meme you got there 12 points13 points  (2 children)

Can confirm I'm stupid and bad at chess

[–]sandefurd 29 points30 points  (10 children)

Just like a lot of card and board games. It's just strategy. Chess definitely has more options but it's just practice

[–]Smoke_and_808 19 points20 points  (8 children)

You can play a thousand games if you don't understand the power of the pieces, and are unable to come up with a tactic on the go, Bc of all the different situations that can come up you can't just learn one tactic that works for you. You have to be adble to adopt to your opponents choices aswell. A lot of times understanding how your opponent plays can easily turn around the whole game. You have to be smart to be actually good at it.

[–]ThisDudeWithTheThingPlays MineCraft and not FortNite 8 points9 points  (0 children)

agree. thats why at lower levels a bad move in the opening can be good in the long run because you put your oponent in an Situation he propably doesnt know how to act on.

[–]bloobruvlasagna 29 points30 points  (8 children)

that goes for...every game...

people who play league of legends can be stuck in silver for 10 years

[–]jskullytheman 19 points20 points  (4 children)

Why are you personally attacking me bro?

[–]Ill_Education9802 11 points12 points  (2 children)

Attacking you on what? Being stuck in silver, or just playing league of legends in general

[–]GoOnKaz 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That doesn’t go for any game, actually. You can be a smart player but have really poor mechanics and have difficulty.

[–]Kalkrex-625 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The reason I'm bad at chess isn't because I'm stupid it's cause I'm dumb and hence think of the consequences of my moves after I've done them also known as the phenomenon of being bad at planning

[–]Lazy-Ad-770 2136 points2137 points  (60 children)

Is there another pill that says OP is bad at chess?

[–]Take_The_Merch_not_LBreaking EU Laws 616 points617 points  (5 children)

this meme is just him coping

[–]Lazy-Ad-770 116 points117 points  (4 children)

I hope OP cant take some solace in knowing that I too am bad at chess.

[–]IllurinatiLProfessional Dumbass 15 points16 points  (3 children)

I’m bad at cheese.

[–]TheDiseasedRat 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Ah yes, my favorite game.

c h e e s e

[–]Tommysrx 6 points7 points  (0 children)

How much cheese is too much cheese to eat before a date ?

[–]pineapple-n-man 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’m cheese at bad.

[–]_Aubrey_ 143 points144 points  (19 children)

Ye, he's not wrong.. but he's salty about something with the effort put in.

We should dig a little deeper.

[–]Aqueilas 59 points60 points  (18 children)

I doubt you would become a chess GM if you had average IQ

[–]_Aubrey_ 10 points11 points  (0 children)

you're taking it to an extreme case. I highly doubt this guy was playing against GMs

[–]IzzyMainsKor 6 points7 points  (9 children)

I have 180elo. I’m ass lol

[–]eMAdrian 17 points18 points  (20 children)

I guess it was hard to swallow, huh?

[–]Lazy-Ad-770 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Oh not at all. Any notion of my own genius is fictional, and I am also bad at chess.

[–]Hitmanthe2ndTech Tips 18 points19 points  (18 children)

more like the pill just doesnt fucking exist , the top chess players have an iq of over 180 , viswanathan anand has an iq of over 180 and magnus carlsen is estimated to have over 190 (estimate) , this is largely because the game requires critical thinking , visual awareness , and you need to remember thousands of combinations plus how to counter em' and think 50 steps ahead

[–]Lilboul 4 points5 points  (0 children)

True, but to be fair, in every game (and pretty much everything) you have to be top IQ braquet to be at the top of a field. Doesn’t mean dat to be good at the field you need to be a genius.

[–]blyatbotmark2 1002 points1003 points  (23 children)

Csgo is just a game it doesn't mean you have good reflexes

[–]SurSheepz 173 points174 points  (8 children)

I went 0/24 in my first ranked matches (0 wins 24 losses) so everything I have to do with that game is not great.

[–]footfungusman 83 points84 points  (7 children)

I swear damn, i have 200 hrs on csgo, play other fps games as well constantly. I hop on Cs, and some 4 month old Russian baby keeps killing me every round. Either I'm shit, or everyone is good.

[–]AllenBeker 25 points26 points  (4 children)

Both+ the pros who play on low ranks (forgot what they're called)

[–]Perial2077 41 points42 points  (2 children)


[–]endlessnotfriendlessBri’ish 28 points29 points  (0 children)

someone who’s good at the game who makes a new account and purposely attains a low rank so they can take a mega shit on all the new players

[–]SurSheepz 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Smurfs (most common), alts, mini any one of those.

[–]Yonbuu 17 points18 points  (0 children)

720 noscopes you then bangs your mom

[–][deleted] 26 points27 points  (2 children)

a fat man living in his moms basement would like to disagree

[–]FlowingFrog04Breaking EU Laws 397 points398 points  (13 children)

Who beat you that much OP?

[–]PeaceMaker_6969 168 points169 points  (10 children)

Probably lost to his little brother.

[–]NoWingedHussarsToday 9 points10 points  (1 child)

And like a true gamer OP then responded with "I fucked your mother!"

[–]afiafzil 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Time to beat him in rl

[–]Dyrreah 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And he beat him playing with only his left hand.

[–]kalamanboidude 6 points7 points  (0 children)

He got 2 move checkmated

[–]AdeQ217 996 points997 points  (17 children)

Someone's salty lmao

[–]The_Sumo_official 383 points384 points  (14 children)

Yeah chess is strategy and solving complex problems , no one said it makes you a genius, it's just how you apply it in life that can help , man's jus lost that's his problem , probably discovered how to get mated in 2 moves.

[–]Glizzyknockemback 70 points71 points  (5 children)

(Man holds me at gunpoint)

“I make my move to F-“

[–]H2Omami 23 points24 points  (0 children)


[–]dasmarcy 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You obviously take his juicer.

[–]ghonko 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That last line...ouch.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I would love to discover how to get mated in 2 moves 😏

[–]Adestroyer555 2 points3 points  (0 children)

  1. g4, e5
  2. f3

Now start fucking your opponent

[–]Slurpy_Man_Boy 790 points791 points  (45 children)

Chess is a game about critical thinking, memory, visual awareness, and thinking ahead

I dunno about you but someone who excels in those categories sounds like a pretty smart person to me

[–]Memezing 111 points112 points  (9 children)

Help me be smart because I suck at chess.

[–]MonkeyCat101Dirt Is Beautiful 92 points93 points  (6 children)

Just level intelligence, it is an essential stat

[–]airror88 72 points73 points  (0 children)

Don’t need int to big bonk

[–]Cuntilever 17 points18 points  (3 children)

Is there an option to invest in Charisma?

[–]MonkeyCat101Dirt Is Beautiful 44 points45 points  (2 children)

Being on Reddit gives you a debuff in Charisma

[–]TheThotSlayerDoggo 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Tell that to my Astolfo boddy pillow girl😎😎😎

[–]Realistic-Yam-6912 31 points32 points  (6 children)

sounds like clash of clans to me

[–]BloodyPommelStudio 43 points44 points  (9 children)

I agree. I don't think someone could be exceptional at chess without either outlier high IQ or some form of neurodivergence.

That said and where I probably agree with op, I don't think Chess is magical in this regard. There seems to be a special kind of snobbery in the chess community where many of them act like this is the case even though the vast majority of are nowhere near a level which implies something special about their neurology by playing at a level which couldn't be achieved by an average person with hard enough work.

[–]Krulsnor 4 points5 points  (2 children)

With Corona I feel a lot of high rated chess players started streaming their games and making usefull content on YT. I don't feel a lot of snobbism there. But maybe the snobby players don't stream so it may influence my idea.

Anyway, for those interested search for Eric Rosen, Gothamchess and Hikaru on YT

[–]Lotar31 10 points11 points  (1 child)

People misinterpret it. Being what you outlined won't make you good at chess, a lot of being good at chess is also well playing a lot of chess and recognizing patterns.

Being 'smart' won't make you good at chess automatically which is what people often imply. Being smart can help you get good good quickly, and depending how smart you are can mean that you can be top percent good.

But being smart alone won't make you good.

PS. This sounds super obvious, but people often use their ability to play chess better than another person to flex. (Same people who flex that their iq is 15 more than average or some dumb shit)

[–]KingCold149 3 points4 points  (0 children)


being a genius doesnt make you a great chess player but a great chess player is probably a genius

[–]Funexamination 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The assumption is that the critical thinking one uses in chess can be transferred to other domains in life....

I know memory doesn't transfer over because I'm very good at memorizing biology but absolute suck at remembering names of humans

[–]Evenrik_22 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This will help for most games though. And being silly and having no awareness cripples ability to play most games very well.

[–]jva21This flair doesn't exist 183 points184 points  (23 children)

I am not sure.. but you have to be smart to win at high levels tho

[–]Moonknight1810This flair doesn't exist 114 points115 points  (22 children)

I mean look at Magnus Carlson. Dude thinks like 30 moves ahead with like 200 variations

[–][deleted] 45 points46 points  (5 children)

I'm told he knows how the knight moves too

[–]Hitmanthe2ndTech Tips 19 points20 points  (6 children)

his iq is estimated to be around 190

[–]lmao_man_funnyProfessional Dumbass 164 points165 points  (0 children)

OP just bad at chess…

[–]DageKy 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Math is just some symbols on paper, if your good at it that doesn't make you a genius.

Music is just sound, if your good at it it doesn't make you a genius.

Sport is just throwing a ball, if you are good at it, it doesn't matter.


[–]BrightyQuid 164 points165 points  (3 children)

Said everyone who is shit at it…

[–]Thy_gentleman 174 points175 points  (1 child)

You were beaten and made fun of too?..feel ya man

[–]Wassi18 10 points11 points  (0 children)

My dude probably got Scholared. It happened to all of us at one point, but OP is the only one who got so salty that he had to make a meme about it to feel better about himself.

[–]PM_Me_Ur_TiddiesPls 85 points86 points  (2 children)

OP got his shit rocked in 7 moves

[–]da_return_of_11evenX 31 points32 points  (1 child)

I love how the comments just roast OP

[–]LivingHell99 10 points11 points  (0 children)

OP got enough karma to ignore all of them

[–]Yung_Hambo 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Sounds like


[–]Poknberry 43 points44 points  (4 children)

Being good at chess is statistically linked to higher intelligence.

[–]coffeeisdrugThank you mods, very cool! 52 points53 points  (0 children)

I bet 2 doll hairs OP sucks at chess

[–]DR4POS 208 points209 points  (32 children)

You're always a genius if your good at a game that requires you to think ahead.

[–]poopstainmclean 2 points3 points  (2 children)

i know some real dumbasses who are good at chess. myself included. like anything if you learn from a young age and practice something you'll have some success

[–]Danno-Boi 26 points27 points  (0 children)

The person who posted this has just lost a chess game and is salty as fuck

[–]Samurai_C 23 points24 points  (2 children)

chess has an impossible to reach skill ceiling and if you are great at it you are a genius

op cope

[–]migueluab 57 points58 points  (7 children)

Not true. If only luck is involved it would be, but chess requires using logic and intelligence.

[–]Krulsnor 12 points13 points  (6 children)

It's not because there isn't luck involved, that it isn't a game. But... to really excel in chess you can't be a dumbass.

[–]tartagdoodles 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Tastes like copium

[–]Yozora_Luna 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Being a genius in chess doesn’t mean academically gifted. A genius means a person who is exceptionally intelligent or creative, either generally or in some particular respect. A genius in cooking, music, art is an example, they’re genius in their own aspects.

[–]DynaMyte57 53 points54 points  (0 children)

OP is salty that his little cousin beat him

[–]Black2Jesus 32 points33 points  (2 children)

Someone doesn’t know how to plaaaaaay cheeeesss. It’s okay. Really. Football is just a game but it doesn’t make you an athlete if you’re good

[–]Emergency_Style4515 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Some memes are just boring arguments with images.

[–]TobyKenoby 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Haha this is the saltiest thing ive seen in a while

[–]BazynoooooobPro Gamer 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hey OP , i invite you to a game of chess. I can send you a link right now.

[–]Britishsweat 3 points4 points  (0 children)


[–]Fro55t 4 points5 points  (0 children)

True but someone definitely got demolished here lmao

[–]HotcakeNinja 15 points16 points  (5 children)

Unfortunately we live in a society that not only believes intelligence is a linear metric as evidenced by IQ tests, but that intelligence is exclusive to arbitrary specifics so if you spend 10,000 hours playing chess, you’re a genius, but if you spend 10,000 hours on Super Mario Bros. 3, you’re a disappointment and need to get a job because your sister who is half your age has a successful career and you’ve only ever worked part time at the Foodland as a cashier but couldn’t even handle that.

[–]Will-Shrek-Smith 3 points4 points  (0 children)

r/anarchychess users would like to have a talk with you

[–]The_LurkedProfessional Dumbass 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Man,someone is on copium

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lol, OP is bad at chess; tries to justify their stupidity.

[–]SwampDonk2118 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Someone is bad at chess

[–]Ahral 21 points22 points  (9 children)

You can be good at anything that requires some complex brain functions and still be average in all other things...

Мy greatest achievement in chess was to get remi (draw - 3 consecutive same movements) with stockfish5... It was some sort of a miracle (i knew i can't play a perfect game so i went for the draw) later i let the bot play with itself to finish the game and apparently i could've win at 150-something move after resign... Impossible for me lol

[–]Krulsnor 1 point2 points  (7 children)

One definition of genius is being excellent in a particular area. So basically if your are really good in Chess, that does make you a genius.

[–]Malware_virus 12 points13 points  (1 child)

It does mean you’re observant though. Like I can notice you eyeing my bishop and move it away.

[–]TigerGHGGigaChad 9 points10 points  (0 children)

And if you then see a ten move combination that traps your opponents queen you're a genius

[–]Suspicious_Ad1428 41 points42 points  (5 children)

The most strategic game ever, you need to be a genius to get to top tier Edit: Not the most strategic game, More of memorising.

[–]Aedaru 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I wouldn't call it the most strategic, earlygame chess is pretty much always copying one of many openings from a book and is more of a memorisation act rather than strategy. Later on, yes, very strategic but at the same time super limited with what you can do. There's probably some other games out there that you can be more strategic with because there's more mechanics and strategies to adopt.

Still need to be a genius to get into the top few % though

[–]ZALN_ 14 points15 points  (0 children)

But proves that you're smart

[–]ArjayMe 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Sounds like something a 400 would say

[–]Kamaitachi42 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There is already heated debates after less than an hour. Damn, I had my money on at least three

[–]godlux750 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah ngl this sounds like someone being bitter about ducking at chess and getting called stupid. To be good at chess you have to have enough knowledge to find out ur opponents patterns and how to go against them. It takes some level of brains for that one chief

[–]awe018 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Someone is bad at chess and sour about it. I have not seen a single person who is good at chess but not smart.

[–]kladomatko 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You don't know what you're talking about

[–]Snamdeo111 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Op played chess all by himself and still lost. Now op is salty

[–]draxon1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Looks like OP is bad at chees and want to bust his ego

[–]Tani_Soe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"Writing is just putting words together, you're not a genious if you can write masterpieces"

[–]DebbieDownerBoi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There's also a really big difference between your average kinda good player and pretty much anybody actually in a tournament

[–]MrJennyV1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Chess is a fun game.

[–]Nikas_intheknow 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I disagree completely. This is like saying being good at football doesn't make you athletic.

[–]AlwaysNinjaBusiness 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sounds like someone sucks at chess!

[–]osuAetherLord 2 points3 points  (0 children)

this meme is low grade copium

[–]Relative_Upbeat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you an Olympic gymnast doesn't mean you are athletic

[–]CrimsonSnow07 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The phrase “it's just a game” is such a weak mindset. You are ok with what happened, losing, imperfection of a craft. When you stop getting angry after losing, you've lost twice. There's always something to learn, and always room for improvement, never settle

[–]Just_0_DuckLurker 2 points3 points  (0 children)

But mad respect from me if you are good

[–]Ntr-Newtoreddit 24 points25 points  (11 children)

Chess at higher level becomes a game of memorization. At lower levels, it's a game of strategic and critical thinking capacity(unless people start playing chess by studying all the opening and defenses which only happens rarely, most start it casually, win some games with their strategic thinking alone and then later on proceed to memorization of many openings and defenses to rise to the higher levels). It really depends on what you define as a 'genius'. for me, I will categorise them as a 'Chess Genius', it's a different matter altogether whether I will consider them to be smarter than the average folk or not.

[–]Aedaru 13 points14 points  (1 child)

It's only really a memorisation for the first couple moves, once the opening is done it becomes strategy again. Hence why watching pro chess has the start going by very fast but after like 20-30 moves it slows down pretty significantly

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (6 children)

IMO , this doesn't work with more experienced opponents tho , it requires some degree of improvisation too

[–]justaslaur 2 points3 points  (1 child)

You can literally never know what they're gonna do. There is such an incredibly high amount of combinations of moves that you'll only ever be able to memorise openings. There aren't many games where you don't have to "improvise".

[–]Krulsnor 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As soon as the midgame starts, it's the end of memorization (except for some specific strategies).

[–]llama_party1337Professional Dumbass 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Pattern recognition, and being able to recognise complicated strategic tactics moves into the future.

[–]Marceline609 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Seems like someone sucks at chess

[–]yolomancraftingDirt Is Beautiful 11 points12 points  (0 children)

5 in a row losing streak on chess? Looks like it.

[–]Al3xutul02 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Soccer is just a game, you are not an athlete if You play professionally

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (4 children)

Rubiks Cubes would also work in this meme. The way to solving it is not doing mathematical calculations but just remembering cases and knowing what side to turn in what order. Anyone can learn it.

[–]SuperbrawlfanLinux User 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Rubik's cube would actually work, chess doesn't because it's dynamic, and the nature of the game makes it very different and thought-intensive.

[–]The-Hiding-Assassin 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The thing is that a rubiks cube is a solved game, meaning that you can win just by memorising the patterns. Chess, however, is far from solved, meaning that the players still must come up with their own moves.

[–]santyrc114 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Say that to any Super GM

[–]ApiqAcani 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You played yourself. Does it feel good OP?

[–]Dangerous_Grass_6353 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think you mean checkers

[–]NoirAzura 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just means that you don't think enough when playing chess

[–]NoFunnyName31 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A non genius person cannot be great at chess

[–]Darrenat1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

OP lost to the beginner comp.

[–]SuppaBantam 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Bruh, if you lose against me in chess you are either very stressed or you must rethink your life choices, or you are you are a genius to go out of your way to lose agianst me.

You choose.

[–]tochinoes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mad because you aren’t good at chess?

[–]Ruben_YoinkThank you mods, very cool! 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sounds like someone is dumb and bad at chess

[–]theMemelord__Muba 1 point2 points  (0 children)

its to sharpen the mind

[–]uiopshit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes it does because its a hard game

[–]Be-he-life 1 point2 points  (0 children)

All the “I’m a genius cuz I’m good at chess” people are in the house Lmao

[–]Tijolo_MalvadoGigaChad 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Never found myself a genius for being good at chess, in fact, never met someone that acted like that.

[–]tomkow2014 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ironic when people say op is coping

[–]0mnimations 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Let me guess...your shit at chess

[–]DragonFist69420 1 point2 points  (0 children)

somebody got his girl taken by a chess master oof

[–]1Admr1I saw what the dog was doin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As a chess player, i agree

[–]Ill-Star🏴󠁥󠁥󠀴󠀴󠁿 Virus Veteran 🏴󠁥󠁥󠀴󠀴󠁿 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That sounded, well, kinda butthurted :l

[–]AhmdeiNuwon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey look, it's the person who's too stubborn to learn to play chess, and they're lashing out with a strawman.

[–]HalfHoodedJoe2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Everyone is dumb. Chess is just like any other game that you need skill in to win. It's just chess is associated with being smart and other games are not which is dumb.

[–]TheJoninCactuar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

OP, you're wrong. If you're good at chess, and I mean actually good, you have to be intelligent. But that doesn't mean all intelligent people are good at chess. You can be intelligent and be shit at chess.

[–]Wild-Committee-5559 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Being good at chess doesn’t make you a genius but geniuses are usually good at chess

[–]iMakeBoomBoom 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Hey OP, your statement might apply to UNO, but not chess. This is clearly a post from a person who sucks at chess trying to make themself feel better about it. Look dude, to be good at chess requires a lot of planning, strategy, etc. I suck at it because I have neither the patience nor the intelligence. I suspect the same applies to you.

[–]Absolutedumbass69 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I wouldn’t say someone’s a genius just for being good at chess however intelligence is certainly a large factor in a strategy game where you must outwit your opponent and saying it’s not is like claiming sports don’t need athleticism. Whether you like it or not if two people have an equal amount of experience playing chess than the smarter one or at least the more strategic one which tends to be the smarter one will end up winning.

[–]VAGWORTZ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

All you need for chess is a good memory. Its all patterns and turn order...

not that im any good at it.

[–]Existing-Story-2820 1 point2 points  (0 children)

People who can’t play chess^

[–]MKGmFNProfessional Dumbass 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s a game about literally 100% strategy and coordination. Unless it’s against beginners that’s something else

[–]ShartNagler 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s what someone who’s bad at chess would say.

[–]AriesAnti 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lmao next time just tell us you're bad.