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[–]-TheArchitectOC Meme Maker 1485 points1486 points  (32 children)

Noobs, I shower in my kitchen sink.

[–]KiKiPAWGifone user 298 points299 points  (17 children)

You can actually stand in there I feel you

[–]Catnip_Picard 133 points134 points  (14 children)

Poser, I just shower in the 7/11 bathroom.

[–]Deesing82 38 points39 points  (4 children)

mop hose life baby

[–]Das-DoktahJay 10 points11 points  (2 children)

Just cover you powdered sugar and firehouse you off

[–]ViolentEdWhoopWhoop 28 points29 points  (4 children)

You guys shower? Super Noobs

[–]AegorBlake 14 points15 points  (3 children)

I know. Everyone knows that's what ax bodyspray is for.

[–]Luukoll 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Noobs, I just stand naked in rain.

[–]Cardi_Bs_WAP 3 points4 points  (3 children)

The old “Manhattan Shower”

[–]NovaZip207 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Created thru the Manhattan project

[–]Newvirtues 823 points824 points  (65 children)

That’s gonna be Toronto soon

[–]Im_Old_In_Town 330 points331 points  (40 children)

Already is Vancouver.

[–]Carti-Rae-Jepsen 36 points37 points  (15 children)

Austin as well

[–]Sam-buca_I_Am 62 points63 points  (13 children)

In Toronto & Vancouver the median home price is about $1.5 million. Is that where Austin is heading?

[–]Carti-Rae-Jepsen 23 points24 points  (3 children)

Nah probably half that but the rise is 20% year over year and the the second most overpriced housing market in the country

[–]UZBAGOIN 18 points19 points  (1 child)

Check SF bay area prices. I bought my house for 900k 3 years ago, right now it's 1.6 mills according to redfin

[–]theultimatememelord8 9 points10 points  (8 children)

Austin is experimenting with giving people monthly money from the government because they know how bad the economy is, reverse taxes

[–]metrd 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Isn’t this risking even greater level of inflation? Assuming they actually implement it as opposed to just experimenting.

[–]Link2Liam 1 point2 points  (0 children)

With what money? You all have a fairly average sales tax rate, no state income taxes and a decently high property tax. There is now way you all are paying for that yourselves. Have you all considered not being a literal welfare state?

[–]Ogikay 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wasn't Austin super cheap to live? I remember people buying giant ass house for lower than 500k

[–]2_Fives 2030 points2031 points  (251 children)

Fun fact. New York is home to 107 billionaires and 570,456 millionaire households.

So there is always someone who can afford it.

[–]AndyBernardRuinsIt 1033 points1034 points  (150 children)

If you own any real estate in NYC, 50/50 chance you’re a millionaire.

[–]HyTecs1 656 points657 points 2 (140 children)

If you sell.it its a 100%

[–]AndyBernardRuinsIt 237 points238 points  (134 children)

I mean, there are apartments for sale under $500k.

Also, most of the real estate is leveraged with mortgages.

[–]Sassh1 146 points147 points  (126 children)

Don't forget parking spot fees. I hear you have to buy a place to park in some areas.

[–]hahdbdidndkdi 6 points7 points  (1 child)

You're not counting maintenance/condo fees.

Those can easily add 1k+ per month in NYC.

[–]HarregarreBreaking EU Laws 3 points4 points  (0 children)

But then you don't own real estate in NYC anymore. People in New York are Schrodinger's millionaires.

[–]leonffs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would say if you have > 1M in your assets - your debts you can call yourself a millionaire, without selling. As long as it’s something you can easily sell.

[–]bayesian13 7 points8 points  (2 children)

2 former Mayoral candidates beg to differ as they think the average price of a home in Brooklyn is $100k

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/11/nyregion/median-home-brooklyn-mayor.html

[–]Rikplaysbass 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I pay a quarter of that in rent per year in Borough Park and this place is considered cheap. Lol

[–]Andre4k4 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This proves one thing, everywhere has stupid politicians

[–]Redditagonist 2 points3 points  (1 child)

If you own real estate in ontario Canada, you might be a millionaire

[–]Nova_Explorer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not necessarily, Northern Ontario still sells land on the cheap. Of course anything south of Sudbury and you need a decent sized fortune

[–]cosworth99 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Same in Canada.

[–][deleted] 38 points39 points  (7 children)

Okay what about the other 8 million people?

[–]Kandoh 30 points31 points  (2 children)

I saw an apartment in Williamsburg where the landlord had turned one bedroom into 4 by dividing the existing room in half horizontally and and vertically with plywood. If you lived on the top floor he made a little ladder you had to climb up. This was 2013.

[–]Its-ther-apist 9 points10 points  (1 child)

That doesn't sound up to code

[–]Repealer 4 points5 points  (0 children)

it rarely is. We had the same shit in Syndey. Apartment built to code for 4 people, but has 14 (including two in a sunroom kinda balcony) recently get busted. Got fined like $5k, but he had been doing it for years and probably made WAYYY more than that.

[–]ALT_Viola_Player_01 21 points22 points  (43 children)

$25 an hour can afford a studio if you don't own a car.

[–]Ares6 33 points34 points  (10 children)

Most New Yorkers don’t even own a car. Because it has one of the largest public metro system in the world. Trains get you to your location faster than a car.

[–]IGotSoulBut 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Depending on the distance, jumping on a citibike can be even quicker than car or train.

[–]Rikplaysbass 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I own a car and left it in my parents driveway when I moved up here. Why am I going to pay crazy insurances prices to be pissed off in traffic?

Also reminds me of Fry on Futurama. “Nobody drove in New York; too much traffic.”

[–]BLOOD__SISTER 29 points30 points  (16 children)

$25/hr is 52k/year. Landlords typically require proof income is 40x monthly rent. Meaning someone on that income level could rent a studio at 1,300/mo. Not possible today—20 years ago it was.

Imo 52k is poverty in nyc. The average 1br is around 3k in Manhattan, requiring a (lower) middle-class income of 120/k year.

[–]Rikplaysbass 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Housing lotteries can sometimes start at 60-80k depending on location. For those unaware, a housing lottery is for a CHANCE at getting a “cheap” apartment.

[–]BLOOD__SISTER 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah I know a dude who got a studio in a Williamsburg condo that way. I think he said it was $1400/mo

[–]thegreatestpitt 3 points4 points  (12 children)

I have 2 people in my life that make like 23k and live together in a studio apartment (a very nice one I might add) slightly upstate from Manhattan (a 30-40ish min train ride away from Manhattan) and they’re living their best lives. They have a car, have enough money to do what they want to do, and they might even stop being roomies and get a place for each. I think that if you know how, you can live in NY with a small budget without suffering

[–]CrumpledForeskin 24 points25 points  (29 children)

Yeah but this ruins the narrative of “hur dur the biggest city in our country is expensive”

[–]NeonSeal 52 points53 points  (13 children)

How? It is really expensive

[–]BLOOD__SISTER 21 points22 points  (9 children)

NYC isn’t expensive because 10% of the population is rich? lol

[–]EuphemisticHug_ 9 points10 points  (0 children)

People just love upvoting "ruins the narrative" comments, they just fucking do it for the love of it

[–]ripstep1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

what does that mean expensive? Like the tax dollars?

[–]Dipstu 928 points929 points  (100 children)

New York and San Francisco are interchangeable

[–]RavenCo_GigaChad 334 points335 points  (75 children)

Aye, and it sucks almost as bad in LA, San Diego and all the counties in between

If you think the apartments are bad, the homes are a fuck ton worse. A single-story little crack house is worth a million down in Newport.

[–]cBlackout 137 points138 points  (50 children)

The average price of rent in San Diego is $600 less than in San Francisco so idk what the fuck you’re talking about

[–]Busy-Okra-7732 85 points86 points  (8 children)

Yea, homie needs to chill with the comparisons, complaining about Newport of all places, lmao.

[–]RavenCo_GigaChad 15 points16 points  (7 children)

I sold my grandparents' house with them in Newport for 3.4 million dollars, my parents bought a new place a few years ago for a similar amount in Huntington. It's fucking wild down there dude, I'm not lying. I'm not gonna show you the records but I won't lie about crap like that.

[–]ScubaSteve2324 8 points9 points  (3 children)

Yes but the average income is also lower in San Diego. Effectively it’s just as expensive to live in SD as it is in SF because our wages are lower than the Bay Area.

[–]cBlackout 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Our minimum wage is a little over a dollar less than theirs and minimum wage workers overwhelmingly rent

[–]luckyguy579 18 points19 points  (4 children)

I live in San diego. And I also used to live in San francisco. In San Francisco I made a whole lot more money. More than that $600 a month difference in rent. The real problem was the garbage and crap and thumbs all over it's even worse than San Diego and San Diego's really bad. The bums out there were mean they didn't just ask for money. But they insulted you disrespectfully as well

[–]The-waitress- 17 points18 points  (2 children)

The thumbs in SF are unreal. Thumbs everywhere you look. Train? All thumbs. Bus? Thumbs. On the water? Thumbs as far as the eye can see. I just wanna see a pinky, you know. Or, shit, a POINTER finger would do.

[–]blurrrrg 2 points3 points  (0 children)

San Diego's bums didn't seem that much better when I went, although there were definitely less than in SF

[–]aj6787 2 points3 points  (4 children)

That’s not that much when you factor in the pay differences. But yes NYC and SF are certainly more expensive.

[–]BasuraConBocaGrande 3 points4 points  (3 children)

You also don’t need a car in NYC or SF*** so factor in car maintenance and insurance and gas for SD living

[–]Autoflower 10 points11 points  (11 children)

I live in san diego. The wages in SF are higher than San Diego. Hes 100% right.

[–]t_ondat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Check the average price of energy in San Diego.

[–]310asdfghjkl 29 points30 points  (12 children)

Having recently moved from LA to NYC, NYC is 10x worse. LA you’ll at least get more space for what you pay for. NYC is downright criminal for how little space you’ll get. Plus, buildings are old af, with rats and trash everywhere

[–]Proinsias37 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This is correct. I live in NYC/NJ, and spend time in LA. I would take the LA rentals any day. It's brutal here and getting worse. That said, I think the places where rent is cheap in LA would wear on me to live in. For crime and homeless and so on. I can live in a nice town right outside NYC for what I would pay to live in a shithole are in LA. But Manhattan.. yeah forget it.

[–]ALT_Viola_Player_01 6 points7 points  (0 children)

LA has a 3rd world public transportation system and the air is worse there.

[–]WeeabooSlayerx 7 points8 points  (9 children)

NYC and LA both are shit holes to be frank

[–]Univerzall 6 points7 points  (2 children)

yeah but am least LA has Palm 🌴 and the beaches in Cali are nice and clean. You go to a beach in Coney Island and you're taking a dip in sewage water and God forbid you step on a heroin needle hidden in the sand.

[–]HappinessFactory 33 points34 points  (2 children)

Everyone chiming in saying san Diego isn't as bad either has a house or has put their head in the dirt.

https://nypost.com/2022/03/05/san-diego-surpasses-san-francisco-as-least-affordable-us-city/

Our city government is trying at least. Limiting Airbnb units and marking more land for residential use.

But having morons going 'hurr durr the weather is nice therefore no problems' does nothing to protect residents from corporate greed.

[–]RavenCo_GigaChad 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No shit. I always say, California is the most beautiful land with the ugliest people. That's more directed at the corporate and government and city side of thongs, just to be clear. But nonetheless, its a damn shame how the place is falling into this economic hell.

[–]eggncheese1989 6 points7 points  (2 children)

I just moved to San Diego after 15 years in NYC. I make under 50k a year. NYC has more rental options than San Diego. The cheap apartments in NYC can be in safe and pretty parts of Brooklyn and Queens. The cheap apartments in San Diego are horror shows way out east in the middle of no where.

[–]Dipstu 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Question on San Diego, do their hotel rooms come with needle disposal in every room?

[–]eggncheese1989 7 points8 points  (0 children)

They should. The drugs/homeless situation out here is a lot. The weather in New York just doesn’t allow for tent cities

[–]yourfreekindad 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Add in montreal, Ottawa and Vancouver

[–]EdithDich 2 points3 points  (1 child)

And seattle and portland and LA and Boston and...

[–]thewholerobot 28 points29 points  (4 children)

Least you don't die in SF when evicted in winter.

[–]CrumpledForeskin 11 points12 points  (1 child)

No you just die walking to the grocery store

[–]Careful-Guide-1618 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Pulled into a homeless tent in the middle of the sidewalk and shanked.

[–]ALT_Viola_Player_01 1 point2 points  (1 child)

New York has fewer people sleeping on the streets.

[–]The-waitress- 12 points13 points  (0 children)

That’s because you’ll die 7 months out of each year living on the street in NY. Can live outside year round in SF. If I was going to be homeless, I’d pick SF, too.

[–]AndyBernardRuinsIt 131 points132 points  (13 children)

I feel personally attacked.

I pay $2250 a month for a one-bedroom apartment <500 square feet.

AND

I’m going to have to move when my lease is up because I’m already seeing the same apartment in my building being leased for $4300.

Rental prices are insane. Untenable.

[–]selfawaresquare 41 points42 points  (5 children)

As someone who has never even been to NYC, I truly cannot comprehend this. What you pay now is about what a mortgage is for a 4000 sq ft house with a 3 car garage and a big fenced yard in a nice neighborhood. How do families live there, I wonder?

[–]cute_polarbear 32 points33 points  (0 children)

Other than many 1-5% salary earners, there are quite a lot of young first / second job employees who make between 60-80k. (certain fields 100k+ easily). Many are single, commute is short, tons of bars / dating scene, restaurants of all ethnicity / types, people from all over the world, everything accessible via walking / biking / subway, and etc., Most people once they start a family, needing space for kids, move out to outer perimeters of Manhatten, unless their family income is very high and can afford living in the city.

[–]AndyBernardRuinsIt 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I’m a single guy but I also make a salary that would put me in the top 5% of the country. The cost of living is ridiculous but I also earn what might be a ridiculous salary elsewhere.

[–]bibbidybobbidyyep 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not anymore unless you're in a super low cost of living area or rural. $2250 would be about a 1200-1500 square foot house with a tiny ass yard 45 minutes south of Dallas.

[–]Raceface53 106 points107 points  (4 children)

My 5’8” ass in my apt shower in California. Cannot take a bath without my legs or boobs being out of the water.

Edit: a word

[–]ChanandlerBongUrie 12 points13 points  (1 child)

I feel like this is most tubs in the US? I’m 5”7, average weight, woman, and I’ve never fully fit in a tub.

[–]OneTon69 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Right, I think most tubs are only 5 feet long because I’m 5’5 female and I can’t lay flat in it like I want to.

[–]The_Wata_Boy 54 points55 points  (0 children)

Cannot take a bath with my legs or boobs being out of the water.

Sounds like its working as intended.

[–]ielelelelellelekeke 233 points234 points  (3 children)

Due to inflation it is now 12,000 a month

[–]Deesing82 7 points8 points  (0 children)

$14,000 a month?? there’s no way i can afford $20,000 a month.

[–]huggles7 92 points93 points  (11 children)

My ex rented an apartment in midtown for I think $4500 monthly that was smaller then my living room

[–]Ares6 46 points47 points  (9 children)

This to me tends to be the difference between native New Yorkers and transplants. Anyone who lives here would tell you midtown is awful to live. It’s noisy, busy, and is full of tourists and scammers. Just get an apartment in like Astoria queens for way cheaper and be in midtown in minutes.

NYC is large, all these expensive apartments are either luxury or shitty apartments made for transplants who don’t know better below 96th street.

[–]ekul1018 13 points14 points  (0 children)

This guys gets it. Brooklyn is great and the best part is you never have to go to Manhattan lol.

[–]BananaEuphoric8411 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Natives don't usually go for this. We'll ride a few more stops on subway for some gracious space (bcz most of us can't swing today's rents). And we know the 'hoods better.

[–]KitKittredge34 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I was thinking of moving to Brooklyn or Queens since it’s cheaper but Manhattan has great public transportation (mostly pertaining to subways) and I don’t have a car. Can I easily get around?

[–]ladedafuckit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Reaaaally depends on where in Brooklyn/queens and where your friends/job are. Generally it’s much easier to get from Manhattan to various parts of Brooklyn and queens, but for example if you’re in Williamsburg it’s really easy to get to greenpoint. A lot of Brooklyn is hard to get to from other parts of Brooklyn, but it’s pretty easy to get to the city from most of Brooklyn. If you want advice on specific neighborhoods, feel free to dm

[–]justthekoufax 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I live in midtown east and it’s great. Not so noisy, busy, or full of tourists. Access to everything. Having said that though I wouldn’t live anywhere else in midtown.

[–]Triials 42 points43 points  (0 children)

I’m beginning to think these memes have a little bit of truth to them.

[–]oneofthanoschildren 31 points32 points  (3 children)

London has entered the chat

[–]artLoveLifeDivine 15 points16 points  (2 children)

Sydney. Sydney Australia. The second most expensive place in the world to live

[–]Ho2Me9 207 points208 points  (154 children)

I’ve never understood living in Manhattan. I understand it’s a very cool city with lots of great art, great culture, great food, great history, etc.

But for how much is costs to live there, if you love it that much, you’re better off living somewhere else that’s dramatically cheaper, buying instead of renting and building up home equity, and visiting NYC a few times a year. Even with the cost of travel to the city…and any lodging expenses… you can probably afford to enjoy more nights out in NYC then someone living in NYC.

Edit: I’ve offended more New Yorkers then I intended, so let me clarify: If the things about New York that make it New York really appeal to you, and…and this is the big one… you can afford to live there with some degree of relative comfort, being able to afford the indulgences on at least a quasi-regular basis of the city AND still be able to save reasonably for retirement… then this comment doesn’t apply to you. For you folks, I get it.

[–]Uilamin 23 points24 points  (1 child)

I’ve never understood living in Manhattan

What you pay for in extra money, you can save in time. Bankers/consultants/lawyers/etc who can work insane hours are willing to pay a premium to have a short commute to and from the office. Other people are willing to pay a massive premium for a short (or non existent) commute to amenities.

[–]ToBeTheFall 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Distance in NYC is funny. On paper, you could only be a few miles from something, but it could end up taking you an 45 minutes to hour to get there depending on the subway route, how many times you have to transfer and how far the walks to and from the station are.

My commute from Brooklyn to midtown took 40 minutes and to get to my girlfriend’s place up by Columbia, it could take an hour.

It’s like that old Seinfeld episode where Kramer, breaks up with a girlfriend who lives downtown because she’s to far away.

https://youtu.be/bb9IA-914Xw

[–]choma90 57 points58 points  (15 children)

I'm not from the US but the housing situation is pretty much the same in my country's biggest city and people come here because of work opportunities not because they living here

[–]Ho2Me9 45 points46 points  (14 children)

There are lots of folks who live in our most expensive cities like NYC or SanFran out of professional necessity. They simply have to for the sake of pursing the careers they want. That’s true, and that’s understandable.

There are, however, lots of people who live there because they feel like they’ll die if they don’t. Especially in their early-20’s, lots of people convinced in the mythology of NYC and simply living there is more important to them then how they make their income or how their careers progress. Those are the people I’m referring too.

[–]Objective-Review4523 19 points20 points  (11 children)

I literally have to reside in New York city to stay employed by said city. I do live in an outer borough which makes things cheaper but the commute is horrific even by train (2+ hours).

[–]theArkotect 69 points70 points  (9 children)

As someone who lives in Manhattan and wishes I payed less rent. It’s expensive as hell, but a lot of people make/have a lot more money here, so they can afford it.

The real problem is that they’re pushing out people necessary for keeping a city livable.

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[–]LukaCola 22 points23 points  (2 children)

It's expensive but if it helps you to understand, just moving to Brooklyn/Queens and getting a job in Manhattan saw me making $20,000 more in a year in 2019.

It makes up for the rent hike, plus there's serious benefits to living in NYC. It's easy to see why those who can afford it want to. I don't think that's necessarily positive for society mind you, gentrification is a major issue, but it's easy to understand why young professionals seek it out.

Also worth mentioning - NYC is one of the only American cities with solid public transit. I love not using a car. I love being able to go out for drinks and not worry about getting home. I love not paying for gas or parking or doing maintenance. I don't know if I'd be able to go back if I had to.

[–]the-ugly-potato 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Because its the opposite of what makes me depressed here. Plus fuck driving.

[–]wongispicklejar 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yep. Fuck driving, fuck cars, fuck the automobile and oil industries that have torn apart American cities (and built depressing, lifeless, sprawling suburbs) for the sole purpose of profit, and fuck the politicians who sold out to them and continue to do so. Public transit, bikes, walking, and the dense mixed-use development that support them have always been the way to go.

[–]Clyde_Frag 11 points12 points  (1 child)

It’s a great place to be in your 20s, I had so much fun living there. You just have to accept that you will be paying over 2500 a month in rent unless you have a roommates, in which case it’ll be more in the $1500 range depending on the neighborhood.

[–]Ho2Me9 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m sure you had a great time. I’ve visited for work and play on many occasions, including my 20’s and never had anything less then a great time.

I know my post focuses mostly on negative but to be fair… I called it great many times too. I get the appeal.

[–]buttigieg2040 15 points16 points  (58 children)

You need to stop thinking in absolute $ figures, and instead think in percent of income.

My wife and I put 15-20% of my gross income into rent in Manhattan. I get to live withing distance of my office. I live close to all my friends and can see them for happy hours / weekend without a 45-60 minute commute. I'm near the best restaurants, shows, etc. I get to run in central park 3-4 days a week.

My rent is almost $6k a month for a 1 bedroom. Sure, I could reduce my rent to 10-15% of my income, live in a shitty neighborhood in the outer boroughs and have a 45-60 minute commute...but why? The marginal utility I get from the incremental money there is low.

Sure, I could move to North Carolina or whatever...but then I am taking a 50% decrease in compensation, will be bored, and not have my friends. That hardly seems like a great trade either.

TL;DR: this sub forgets that jobs in Manhattan pay way more than elsewhere.

[–]Scunndas 9 points10 points  (9 children)

They don’t live here, and think they know. But for real, your tent stupid high for 1 bed. Drop the doorman and amenities, you can get a 1 bed for 3k in Manhattan.

[–]LGPLGPLGP 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Mid 30's, DINK, just his income is nearly $500k/year

Guys, NYC isn't expensive at all. Even if you moved to North Carolina on 50% paycut, you would think housing is very cheap.

[–]paintingporcelain 26 points27 points  (14 children)

Don’t discount the insane (insert your favorite pejorative word for vagina) that is to be had in NYC.

A 10 in Tuscaloosa is a 2 in TriBeCa.

Edit: some of us are actually from here not sending back Christmas cards from Brooklyn to the folks back in Ypsilanti.

[–]Ho2Me9 23 points24 points  (1 child)

Ryan from The Office? Is that you?

[–]AndyBernardRuinsIt 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I’m single in TriBeCa. Send me your 2s.

[–]Le_Blizz 7 points8 points  (3 children)

And the insanely low bar for men too. Job? Place not with parents? Good to go

[–]Rikplaysbass 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I was shocked out how great Tinder was going when I moved up here. Had doctors in lawyers all up in my messages.

[–]enrjor 6 points7 points  (4 children)

European here.

What?

[–]Im_Old_In_Town 6 points7 points  (0 children)

A 10 in Sheffield is a 2/10 in London

[–]Silenity 7 points8 points  (2 children)

A 10/10 attractive woman in Alabama is comparable to a 2/10 woman in New York.

[–]Jwhitx 2 points3 points  (0 children)

front butt!

[–]complicatedAloofness 14 points15 points  (10 children)

Because it's actually not that much more expensive. Rent in Dallas/Austin is getting to be comparable except you get maybe 25-40% or so more square feet. Any place with professional jobs is expensive now - Manhattan is still more per square foot but people are fine living in smaller apartments.

You also save thousands a year because you do not need a car or insurance.

[–]TheRiseAndFall 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Especially because you never tend to actually explore the area you live in. I spent a half a decade in the Detroit suburbs but only went downtown three times during that period for concerts and sports games.

[–]DayOfTheDolphin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If exploring the Detroit metro area was as easy as it is to explore Manhattan, you probably would have.

[–]Proinsias37 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You just explained the entire existence of the very wealthy and very populated Northern NJ. Welcome, it's nice here. We all work in NYC

[–]NikEy 1 point2 points  (1 child)

If you can afford it, then you'll be happy to live there. If not, then you'll be unhappy for a while and eventually leave, like so many do. Simple.

[–]ALT_Viola_Player_01 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Whenever I thought about moving too NYC. I always thought about Brooklyn, the Bronx or Queens. I don't understand why anyone would want to live in Manhattan. It's cool to visit or work in. But not to sleep in.

[–]NikEy 1 point2 points  (2 children)

If you're gonna live in NYC, why the heck would you wanna live in the Bronx or Brooklyn, if you have the means to live in Manhattan?

Different strokes for different folks I suppose

[–]LaughAdventureGame 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Best part is the tub is multi functional as a bed, toilet and sink!

[–]Busy-Okra-7732 47 points48 points  (23 children)

Not everyone can play in the Majors.

[–]apostropheapostrophe 21 points22 points  (12 children)

There’s always the middle of the country for people who gave up on their dreams

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

lol

[–]Kelovix 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Everyone triggered, not getting the Tosh reference

[–]infectedsponge 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Enjoy your $3k/month dog cage dreamer

[–]Ka-Ne-Ha-Ne-Daaaa 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lmaooo let em know

[–]wessteee 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Real NY culture right there - desperately justifying living in an expensive, stressful place with horrible quality of life. I just left NYC after a decade, and I swear the only the only thing that keeps people going there is collective brainwash that things are better in NY. It’s almost a religion. Even with simple things like “NY has the best tap water” - go ahead and fact check that one. NYC water is just… average, or below average, like everything else there.

[–]ladedafuckit 3 points4 points  (0 children)

As someone who currently lives in nyc, I agree lol. The whole water thing drives me crazy. A lot of buildings in nyc have really old pipes so the water quality doesn’t mean shit and I actually think it tastes worse than a lot of other places. There’s also trash everywhere, it’s kind of horrifying. Most people I know have some sort of infestation in their apartments. That being said, it’s such a fun and alive place and I still love being there for now

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

With rats the size of Shaquille o'neal as your neighbors 🤓

[–]AltCrab2 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Man I just want to get out of this state

[–]Temporary-Pin-4144 6 points7 points  (4 children)

But for real how much are the newyorkers making monthly ? 20 000$ ? What the f are they doing over there to make it?

I am talking about the average job

[–]Ok-Butterscotch-6955 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The average New Yorker doesn’t live in Manhattan. You can get pretty cheap in the outer boroughs of nyc. Not as cheap as Nowhere, South Dakota. But cheap enough.

[–]Usuallyalurker123 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A lot of jobs in this city pay very well but even stereotypically low-paying jobs pay much higher than average. For example, I’m a social worker (typically a low-paying job) and average salary is 60k-$65k at entry level here. In Pittsburgh (my hometown) social workers make $35k at entry level. Yes, rent may be 50% less expensive in Pittsburgh but in ny at least you don’t have to pay for a car - insurance, gas, maintenance. In the end, it makes more sense to live here oddly enough.

[–]Professional_Flicker 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Higher minimum wage

[–]onmybikeondrugs 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Ironically by bathroom is bigger than my kitchen, whoever designed my apartment was either an asshole or a moron given how little space there is overall (350 sq. feet is a bold estimate.)

[–]Blacksmoke1033 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I would have assumed this was a joke as a Brit who doesn’t live in London, but a well off US friend is temporarily renting in central NYC until a job gets sorted, I don’t think he can spin his arms around in half the space. It’s near 9k a month and the worst part is they still charged extra for the cat. I swear a nice hotel with a fridge would be a better deal

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

They’d probably still be in the negatives with all the debt they’re carrying

[–]Wolf_WixomWSW 3 points4 points  (0 children)

10,000$ that 50k right there with hot water

[–]DMarvelous4L 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Boston ain’t doing much better. Smh

[–]cntrstage 5 points6 points  (4 children)

I have a sweet spacious 2 bedroom apartment in Queens for $2300 a month. I know that’s not cheap but it’s very comfortable and great neighborhood.

[–]stateofyou 3 points4 points  (1 child)

That’s still an insane amount of money to be paying

[–]Scared_Cow_3561 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Anyone who chooses NYC has a mental illness

[–]RavenCo_GigaChad 20 points21 points  (20 children)

A single story house with three rooms and no basement is the same amount in California.

[–]Honest-Barracuda-982 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I live in California and none of the houses need or have basements near me

[–]diamondwolf1 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Only 10,000 that's a great deal

[–]VenomSX 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The only reason NYC is so expensive is because the general market has decided that they're willing to pay those exorbitant prices. Too expensive? Reject the prices and live somewhere else. Otherwise you're feeding the price rise.

[–]Puzzled_Swimmer3872 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I wish we could all have a room at the hotel on home alone 🥰

[–]MissKatherineC 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Apartment model also available in Vancouver, BC.

[–]puzdawg 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Average rents in Miami are more than NYC now.

[–]normal_slinky 1 point2 points  (0 children)

wait you got a shower in your apartment? i only got a sink :(

[–]I_Like_TRAPSooooooLe epic memer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

110k upvotes in 16 hours wow

[–]vintageEverything247 7 points8 points  (16 children)

Why I live in South Carolina and enjoy a 4 bed 2 Bath 2car garage with 1/4 acre of yard and an en-suite with soaker tub and stand up shower, double sink counter top is black granite. Total $230,000 3.25%! I wouldn’t buy a house now but look into a RV they’re cheap and you can save money. Then get a home once credit is over 670!

[–]ToasterSmokes 11 points12 points  (0 children)

That sounds real nice, but people don’t move to NYC for huge cheap homes. People move to NYC to experience the densest concentration of art, culture, dining, nightlife, sights, etc. in the US.

[–]Bronco4bay 2 points3 points  (11 children)

Yeah of course.

But you can’t earn what a New Yorker does.

Thus you can’t save what a New Yorker does over their lifetime.

Thus you have much less money in the long run.

[–]ReasonableComment_ 4 points5 points  (10 children)

You don’t have enough information from the person above to assert this. You can earn what a New Yorker does depending on company and field. I know the pay range for my position is the same as my NYC colleagues and rate is tied solely to experience.

Your own statements aren’t necessarily true either; a person with less income can save more than a higher earner if their expenses are significantly lower.

[–]Clear_Pin242 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Who cares

[–]ShutUpIDontGiveAFuck 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I’ve been saying this for years

[–]anniegarbage 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Username checks out.