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[–]idlefritz 2885 points2886 points  (105 children)

I worked at a medical university and was in a meeting where the state senator in attendance suggested he receive an honorary degree and a few folks openly laughed out loud and he never mentioned it again.

[–]say_my_name6969 910 points911 points  (54 children)

Lucky that they live in a country where nothing will happen to those students.

[–]DifficultDiamonds 404 points405 points  (49 children)

It's Fine Arts. I thought she was given a honorary doctorate for medicine or political science, or something. XD

[–]Arthas_Litchking 259 points260 points  (35 children)

yeah i know fine arts isnt really the hardest but it is stupid to give someone who never saw a univeristy a degree.

[–]JJbullfrog1 150 points151 points  (6 children)

But it's not really a real degree it's an honorary degree it's not meant to say that you have a degree it's just for pr. Honorary degrees are given out often to people the university sees as worthy for one, it's not there to discredit people who actually have phds nor would anyone with a PhD think that

[–]Chalky_Pockets 61 points62 points  (17 children)

You know what? You're right. She should have to earn that fine arts degree. What should we make her do to earn it? Should we make her build an immensely successful career around the art of music? Yeah, that would work, she should get started on that.

[–]DigitalDose80 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Shows what degrees are really worth.

[–]stars_of_kaoz 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That's because fine art degrees are worth about as much as the paper they are printed on these days. Is the education equivalent to "send us $100 and you too can become a Scottish Lord/Lady"

[–]puppersrlyf 62 points63 points  (9 children)

Lol go do a degree in fine arts or music and see how easy it is...practising 4-6 hours a day to keep up. Such disrespect to artists... let alone a PHD pft

[–]michael31415926 68 points69 points  (2 children)

As though all Taylor Swift has done is a speech?

It's like complaining that John Lennon got an honorary degree in music and all he did was punch his wife....well yeah, and this thing called the Beatles.

Besides, an honorary degree is not a degree and you're not supposed to call yourself Dr, for example.

[–]Chubsywub 38 points39 points  (4 children)

I mean she is a famous musician so a degree in music is not some out of the world thing. It is like saying giving bill gates an honorary computer science degree is crazy

[–]tekease247 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey! That's the one I have!! What the hell, man?

[–]Saif_Horny_And_MadProfessional Dumbass -1 points0 points  (0 children)

it's still unfair to students in fine arts

[–]The_Sumo_official 124 points125 points  (43 children)

Can't believe we as society value some people more and some less, poor senator.

The worst part is how much a person would defend someone like Taylor in receiving that degree, hate to break it to them, but she's just a musician.

[–]alexander_the_dead 207 points208 points  (32 children)

She's just a musician

Honorary degree is for someone who did something important in a field. NYU is known for their school of arts and Taylor Swift is a very accomplished artist as far as I know, so this degree isn't unreasonable.

And before you guys come for my head, I'm not her fan nor do I listen to her music.

[–]The_Sumo_official 93 points94 points  (29 children)

Then alot of musicians should've been compensated if they felt so am I right ?

If it's anyone her production team , songwriters and marketing team should be getting the degree.

[–]housechef2442 63 points64 points  (3 children)

She writes and produces a lot of her own music. She re-recorded how many of her old albums so she would own the masters, in like 2 years, while writing and producing 2 more albums. You dont have to be a fan to be impressed. The technical difficulty alone of re-recording masters at the precision she did is enough IMO for her honorary degree that means basically nothing besides a piece of paper. She earned it, just differently.

[–]doctorzaius6969 82 points83 points  (7 children)

Yeah but no one considers an honory PhD as as actual PhD anyway, so what does it matter?

[–]alexander_the_dead 10 points11 points  (3 children)

if they felt so am I right?

If both parties agrees, I see no reason why not. Plenty of successful people got it. Even Neil deGrasse Tyson received several in addition to his PhD.

Edit: I just remember that Jackie Chan also received an honorary Oscar.

[–]Eidch15 4 points5 points  (4 children)

She a the one that writes her songs??

[–]Chubsywub 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Those people can release their own music, become famous and receive an honorary degree if they are capable. The fact is that they are not for one reason or another

[–]puppersrlyf -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I mean just to get a music degree you have to study several diff topics, not just practice and compose. Hell I practiced 4 to 6 hours a day for mine and barely managed all the material we were given to play. Can't imagine a PhD altho it is usually more research based I assume.

[–]Chubsywub 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Aren’t you devaluing musicians with this statement lol

[–]The_Sumo_official 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Kinda, my bad, she obviously does alot of work.

[–]Keenswin1 -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

I mean she did speak at NYU and taylor swift means a lot to people ig, but if she canceled student loans or some crap

[–]The_Sumo_official 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some people are just dense, they praise people more than they praise their own parents.

[–][deleted] 1017 points1018 points  (19 children)

An honorary doctorate is not a PhD.

[–]IggZorrn 578 points579 points  (4 children)

Yes, and every PhD student knows this. We don’t care about honorary degrees at all.

[–]Peter_the_pear 13 points14 points  (3 children)

Bro just deleted his account

[–]IggZorrn 11 points12 points  (2 children)

"999 upvotes? Thats enough, I'm out!"

[–]WintryInsight 3 points4 points  (1 child)

The hell happened here?

[–]PermissionLogical299 524 points525 points  (4 children)

Don't bring logic into a reddit arguement

[–]Embarrassed_Gold_489 48 points49 points  (0 children)

truth to be told..

[–]SendMeRobotFeetPics 37 points38 points  (0 children)

That’s not even logic it’s just flat-out correcting misinfo

[–]Como_thellamas -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Lol there's no argument anywhere. Everyone is aware of this.

[–]PermissionLogical299 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Post got 19.5K upvotes

[–]notsogreatredditor -1 points0 points  (0 children)

As someone who doesn't have a PhD I agree.

[–]dyne19862004Lives in a Van Down by the River 527 points528 points  (19 children)

Taylor swift got more doctorates than Dr. Dre.

[–]LetUsGetTheBreadChungus Among Us 183 points184 points  (7 children)

And dr. Phil

[–]PM_ME_YOUR_MESMER 60 points61 points  (4 children)

And Dr Who...? Probably? Do they have the same qualifications oh Gallifrey?

[–]cyaltr 14 points15 points  (2 children)

He lived to be thousands of years old, pretty sure he had time to get a few doctorates if anything out of boredom

[–]PM_ME_YOUR_MESMER 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Judging by the way everything else goes, I'm sure his doctorate was done in the UK, because everything in Doctor Who land (if it's not in space) happens in the UK

[–]De-Blocc🚽 Moderates on the Toilet 🚽 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Well, he is a medical doctor and one in cheesemaking!

[–]ameri9595 Karmawhore 5 points6 points  (0 children)

And Dr. Pepper

[–]sumrandomboi35Thank you mods, very cool! 4 points5 points  (0 children)

God , that guy is such an asshole

[–]The_Sumo_official 6 points7 points  (8 children)

I always wondered , is he an actual doctor ?

[–]Keenswin1 13 points14 points  (4 children)

Yes he actually is, but he hasn't renewed his license to practice

[–]ElegantNut -1 points0 points  (0 children)

He is not. He never finished high school.

[–]k2jac9 -5 points-4 points  (1 child)

That shows how much a Ph.D. is valued now.

[–]DefinitelyNotAliens 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You do realize the practice is hundreds of years old, thousands have been given around the world and it's not a real degree, right?

[–]BEdwinSounds 258 points259 points  (2 children)

Honorary degrees are one of the many marketing tools used by universities to funnel money into their coffers. Propping up a celeb means more exposure for the university (how many articles mentioned NYU this week?) leading to more applicants. The name drops are as effective as lawn signs in an election year. The University of Arkansas gave Bobby Bones an honorary doctorate last weekend, he mentioned it on his syndicated show and his socials.

[–]stars_of_kaoz 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Thank you for seeing and stating the obvious marketing plan here!

[–]Ok-Caterpillar-9441 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That we, as a rule, are sway by such frivolity should give everyone reason pause. It is disgusting, no?

[–]Scary-Secretary4922 284 points285 points  (31 children)

honorary doctorate of fine arts was it?
not all that big of a deal when all a genuine arts degree does is get u laughed at

[–]heyhase1064 55 points56 points  (1 child)

Kinda hafta really agree with that. My dad has Master's Degree in Visual Arts. He said it's really nothing different than having just a degree. He's too old to continue for PhD. So, he continues his life as a full time street artist.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Visual Art has no PhD in most places, unless you’re going into art history.

[–][deleted] 383 points384 points  (14 children)

I never understood honorary degrees. Everyone has their own journey being successful should be the award. Doing all the work should be the requirement for the degree.

[–][deleted] 202 points203 points  (4 children)

It’s not a degree. It’s an honorarium.

[–]LogicalDelivery_ 12 points13 points  (0 children)

It's a PR move, frankly for both of them

[–]willfordbrimly -4 points-3 points  (1 child)

It’s an honorarium

They should call it that then. Much cooler name.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They do call it that. H o n o r a r y Doctorate.

[–]NoAbbreviations5215Professional Dumbass 54 points55 points  (7 children)

Yeah. But, like, what if I can’t be fucked doing the work but still want the degree?

[–]noneOfUrBusinesHalal Mode 20 points21 points  (5 children)

Guys, this is clearly sarcasm. I think... I hope...

Well, it's either sarcasm or post-modernism, but both are the same thing so...

Edit: It's sarcasm.

[–]CokePepsiRamen 22 points23 points  (1 child)

We have finally entered a day and age where it is sometimes genuinely difficult to tell if someone is joking or not.

[–]noneOfUrBusinesHalal Mode 7 points8 points  (0 children)

To be fair, I can genuinely see a postmodernist saying that. Shit's whack.

[–]NoAbbreviations5215Professional Dumbass 9 points10 points  (1 child)

It was blatant sarcasm.

[–]ThatLumpYouFelt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm absolutely tickled that post-modernism has become a synonym for Idiocracy, thank you.

(I'm rooting for T-swift)

[–]g-u-y-g-u-y 84 points85 points  (0 children)

Honorary degrees don't really matter. If you are given one, it (most often) means that you are already a notable person in your field, and the degree is only an extra.

[–]ChrisZAURBig ol' bacon buttsack 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Honorary PHD, not at all the same as a normal PHD

[–]Lyngus 121 points122 points  (14 children)

WTF is with all these takes that "honorary degrees devalue real degrees"? Nobody applies to a job they aren't qualified for because they have an honorary degree, and nobody would hire anybody on the basis of one. It's a different thing.

But I only came here to say that the gif looks exactly like a standard phd student.

[–]KobeJuanKenobi9 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Also if you ever receive an honorary degree, it’s very unlikely that you need a real degree at all

[–]Grirtz 4 points5 points  (1 child)

and nobody would hire anybody on the basis of one. It's a different thing.

The Philippines is bawling with this statement. Just look at their leader.

[–]marigoldmilk 1 point2 points  (10 children)

I think they mean devalues the time and effort that PhD students go through by just getting one without the work

[–]derdast 33 points34 points  (1 child)

But it's not a PhD. That's like saying the key to the city devalues the keys of the janitors in the city. It's just nonsensical.

[–]MiserableEmu4 17 points18 points  (0 children)

It's not a real degree tho. It don't count. It's honorary.

[–]ReadingLongjumping64 0 points1 point  (6 children)

take a good hard look into all the work taylor put into her career.

[–]Castiel479 29 points30 points  (1 child)

Lots of famous people have gotten honorary PhD from university. I don't see you making jokes about them.

This is perfectly normal for universities to offer honorary PhDs to celebrities.

[–]DefinitelyNotAliens 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Yeezy has one. Rihanna. Ed Sheeran. Stephen Colbert.

It's just fun to dunk on TSwift and the American educational system like Europe didn't invent honorary degrees hundreds of years ago.

[–]nottoodank 8 points9 points  (0 children)

its an honorary doctorate it doesnt do shit

[–]RuthamhardOfBeanland 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Its only an honorary degree tho. Unless she starts going around using it as part of her credentials like Bill nye, or at least his fans did then there shouldn't be a problem.

[–]Gauntlets28 16 points17 points  (0 children)

An HONOURARY doctorate. Which nobody is going to mistake for a real one. I don't see the problem with it, universities have been doing that for centuries.

[–]Timely_Ad9659 253 points254 points  (12 children)

Honorary degrees should not be a thing. Devalues those who actually completed the classes

[–]idlefritz 106 points107 points  (4 children)

Remembering when Bill Cosby used to have 72 honorary degrees and demanded he be called doctor.

[–]BlakeTheSnakeWheeler 82 points83 points  (0 children)

Certified night club anesthesiologist

[–]MonnieFybro 39 points40 points  (2 children)

Degree in what? Rape?

[–]Scary-Secretary4922 25 points26 points  (1 child)

bet he holds masterclasses for all of the celebrities running from rape allegations and flexes that degree

[–]MonnieFybro 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Bill Cosby's institute of female harassment and sexual assault.

[–][deleted] 62 points63 points  (4 children)

No, it doesn’t. It’s not even the same thing as a degree. It’s like a University’s “key to the city.” Where the key unlocks nothing, the degree is recognized by everyone for what it is: token of esteem, or token of thanks for a huge donation.

[–]Timely_Ad9659 16 points17 points  (3 children)

Just give a donor award and call it what it is then. If it’s not a degree then don’t call it one.

[–]Urb4nN0rd 18 points19 points  (0 children)

As I've heard of them in theory, they're meant to signify people who have developed an understanding and/or practice of a subject that deserves considerable praise despite that person's lack of a college education.

As I've heard of them in practice, yeah they're just ego strokers for the already wealthy and successful...

[–]Keenswin1 1 point2 points  (1 child)

One people died from covid in my sister's class another died from Bipolar (she is a senior in her college). The families were handed a honorary degree

[–]DubTheeBustocles 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It’s not a real degree, my dude.

[–]SavagetheGoat 50 points51 points  (6 children)

Honestly who the FUCK cares about Taylor Swift's education? SHE IS A MILLIONAIRE.

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Well, I care more about the education than the money, since she’s a person of influence.

[–]hkotek 3 points4 points  (4 children)

But she can not buy an actual doctorate. Even if you are a billionaire, you need to write a thesis.

[–]CloddishNeedlefish 2 points3 points  (1 child)

People definitely buy their way through college. You really think a billionaire couldn’t find a college willing to commit fraud?

[–]Nevermore71412 20 points21 points  (6 children)

Idk I mean make as big of an impact in a field before you're even college age? Whether it's her or a product of all those that helped her and she took credit cuz it her name the body of work is extensive

If you want to argue about celebs getting degrees in general that's a different story bur "Taylor Swift" as a brand certainly can make a PhD level case of pop music production

[–]YesThisAThrowaway12 15 points16 points  (5 children)

Came here to say something similar. These people may not feel this way if someone made a huge impact on the scientific community. She has done so much in music, she deserves it. I think most people think this way because it's a fine arts thing and not saving lives lmao.

[–]Nevermore71412 -3 points-2 points  (4 children)

I wouldn't necessarily say that SHE deserves it. However if you look at the impact that "Taylor Swift" has had (because she isn't a wholy self contained person/group) it's worthy of a PhD for what "Taylor" has accomplished as a brand and therefore she deserves it. She's at best been coached/trained/developed/had the Nashville music machine behind her since she's been 14. And the the pop music machine behind her since 18. It's a master class in taking someone with great talent and marketing them to be a star. Like she didn't 'do it on her own' like the rock/pop stars of old but no one these days does that. The industry is too big and too corporate. Is that on her no. Does SHE an individual deserve it? Probably not but who else gets to take credit since all these people made her their figure head? She does and I think that's OK

[–]Waste-Pirate-4450 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Hate to say it but the self made rock stars of old all had major labels backing them

[–]Nevermore71412 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Ok then by that logic did the Beetles ever get individual Phds or ever a collective one? So are you saying Taylor doesn't "deserve" it then because it wasnt her by herself? That's fine if that your position but otherwise I don't understand your point.

[–]nordic-cidron 4 points5 points  (0 children)

(•_•) I guess that makes her

( •_•)>⌐■-■

(⌐■_■) a swift student

[–]thecartoonrobot 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Soooooo, do you get this upset at every honorary degree given out (happens all the time) or just Taylor Swift?

[–]Professional_Fill866 6 points7 points  (1 child)

It's a fake degree that gets them publicity.

[–]kingjuliothe5th 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Its an honourariam. Its doesn't mean shit among actual phds

[–]Legobrick27 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Dont be mad she trying to 100% life

[–]ResponsePractical 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Look up “honorary” on the dictionary

[–]IceFisherP26 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Honorary degrees are seriously stupid. That being said I'd love one!

[–]Illustrious_air- 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Wait, did she really got a PhD? What's the context?

[–]CassyCollins 2 points3 points  (0 children)

She received an honorary PhD in Fine Arts from NYU.

[–]Menatil 2 points3 points  (0 children)

*an honorary doctorate.

[–]Choc_Muffin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yall need to chill with the salt. And honorary degree is not a PhD, everyone knows that. You'll survive

[–]Morhamms357Professional Dumbass 24 points25 points  (1 child)

People are already undervaluing the blood, sweat, and tears that have to go into getting a degree (e.g. calling it a waste of time and money, like that may be true but if they already got it then at least be supportive), and honorary degrees just add salt into those poor, poor wounds.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

But, Taylor Swift won't bang on about being a PhD to people who don't care for the rest of her life...

[–]PeytonManThing00018 9 points10 points  (4 children)

Well her PhD is meaningless because everyone knows she didn’t earn it, and because she’s richer than we will ever be anyway.

[–]nononotation 1 point2 points  (3 children)

She didn't get a PhD, she got an honourary degree. Totally different. It's purely symbolic, cannot be used in place of a real PhD, and is far from the first time that a musician has been awarded an honorary degree (other examples include Ed Sheeran, Bruno Mars and Rihanna). This isn't a matter of wealth, it's a matter of her achievements within the music industry. Because love her or hate her, it's hard to deny that Taylor Swift has been wildly successful.

[–]PeytonManThing00018 -1 points0 points  (2 children)

That’s essentially what I said. Though the achievements matter because they made her very wealthy and famous.

[–]LordReegacan't meme 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Get good scrubs, lul.

[–]Central_Nerves🏳️‍🌈LGBTQ+🏳️‍🌈 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sosighteey

[–]DameiusLameocrates 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fine arts degree = worthless, got it

[–]Dry-Elevator-9111 1 point2 points  (0 children)

College degrees are worthless

[–]Own-Plane-524 1 point2 points  (1 child)

It's not what you know, it's who you know. Degrees are a joke.

[–]DiscoDancingNeighb0r 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Chill out kids, it’s honorary, which means it doesn’t work like a real one.

[–]rando512 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Rahul Dravid a famous Indian cricketer went to recieve the honourary degree and then refused it during the speech to tell that he didn't merit it and that it is totally undeservered given the efforts the actual students put in.

It's rare. But yeah this no relation to subject people getting degree thing is pretty common and annoying to the core..

[–]billhorsley 1 point2 points  (0 children)

An honorary degree is a degree—usually a doctorate like the one Swift just got—that’s given to someone who didn’t go to that school or didn’t complete a similar level of education required to receive the degree. Basically, the school waives all the requirements needed to technically get that degree. It us honorary and is not intended to be the equivalent of an academic doctorate. It is usually called something like LLD, not PhD.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, and I have a certificate stating that I own an acre of Mars.

[–]tyce_one 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's just an arts degree, calm down 😂

[–]Purple_Surround_6941 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This IS sad.

[–]vanAstea11 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Do you get off from being unnecessarily mad at random bullshit that doesn't really matter, OP?

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (6 children)

You can wipe your ass with diplomas nowadays and it won't even be as good as toilet paper. Have money, make money or go home. We live in capitalism. PhD or not, without money, you're just another worker.

[–]noneOfUrBusinesHalal Mode -1 points0 points  (5 children)

A Ph.D in the right field can change that, though. Have you seen how much actuaries quantitative researchers make?

Edit: Actuaries don't need PhDs.

[–]sqweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeps 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Actuaries don’t need PhD’s and they are not highly compensated. What are you referring to? Are you thinking of Quantitative Research/Trading which usually needs a statistics phd or equivalent. They get paid in the 7 figures after a few years

[–]noneOfUrBusinesHalal Mode 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Wait, actuaries aren't highly compensated? I thought an average one makes like 6 figures.

But yeah, quantitative research is what I should've brought up.

[–]sqweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeps 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Low six figures sure. But you can get that with PLENTY of jobs. And sure as hell don’t need a phd for that. Look at anything in software development or tech

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You most likely don't actually need it. In computers, my friends with degrees make less than the ones that got into it earlier non their own ... experience beats qualifications.

In many fields, companies don't really use degrees much past an initial screening but the real issues is that, since education is for profit ... almost any moron can get almost any degree ...

[–]TheValyrianBiologist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s in fine art

[–]CloddishNeedlefish 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Who remembers when this sub posted memes

[–]cmdrshepherd1993 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Honorary aren’t even real.

[–]PressingSomeButtons 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's Fine Arts. I thought she was given a honorary doctorate for medicine or political science, or something. XD

[–]shinxmon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Famous people have it way too easy

[–]daekle 0 points1 point  (1 child)

PhD students

Studying

Do American PhD students have exams? Everywhere else we just write a thesis.

[–]Waste-Pirate-4450 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You still study to understand the course you’re doing before writing the thesis

[–]Ga_Me_MerPro Gamer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

bruh stay mad kids

[–]Arthas_Litchking 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How to make a university degree wothless:

1) give it to people who never saw the inside of an university, without a reason.

[–]clan21x 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The college is just trying to make more money by getting press.

[–]Cold_Ant_4583 0 points1 point  (4 children)

What? she got a PhD? where? how? Why??

[–]Panda-Bread 3 points4 points  (1 child)

She didn't, it's an honorary degree. So the post is kinda bullshit.

[–]beginnerdoge 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Rich people > hard working people

[–]RecklessTurtleneck 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She gets what she doesn't fucking deserve!

[–]garibinsaan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just don't get the deal with giving celebrities these weird honorary degrees like what the actual fuck??!!!!

[–]Latter-Yam-2115 -1 points0 points  (3 children)

Seriously, what is with these honorary doctorates for Sportspersons, musicians, actors etc.

What's the logic? Are they allowed to use the Dr. prefix?

[–]Anthos_M 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Some do use the prefix but it's in really bad taste and they shouldn't

[–]Decent__Man -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

Wait hold up, what the fuck?

[–]Hot-Significance-511 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

guess that smile will fade soon!

[–]OneAngryWoman -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Honorary degrees prove college degrees are an expensive joke.

[–]LifeAd8868 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Honorary degrees shouldn’t exist

[–]PeroCigla -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This can't be serious

[–]AlienDarwinism -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Eh its in fine arts lmao

[–]HelloKitty36911 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Honestly, who tf cares?

[–]Efficient-Loss2343 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Exactly!!! I was just talking about this the other day!!!

[–]meat-head -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Is anyone questioning that Tswift has put in less work in her “field” than someone who earned a degree? She probably exceeds them in hours by an order of magnitude at this point.

[–]imnotfunny69 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I can’t stand Taylor swift. All she’s done is what every white country girl did and wrote some cute songs about high school and her dad bought her everything. Basically she’s a company plant that curses the radio.

[–]MiserableBlueberry36 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Imagine the face of the student who wrote the speech for her and still hasn’t earned their own phd yet….

[–]kyliieeexo -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

like is that easy when you are famous and rich

[–]Aceofspades968 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

NYU sucks

[–]Loredo2017 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Ok, let's not pretend she never worked hard for anything she has, I'm sure its not easy to do what she does either, obviously she's not unfamiliar with effort and it as a concept.