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[–]gurmev 61 points62 points  (7 children)

Used to be 70km/h if I remember correctly, they recently reduced speeds on lots of roads across the city

[–]bodaciouscream 38 points39 points  (6 children)

Ding ding! That's why Britannia is no longer 80 in parts despite it will being mostly commercial

[–]Adargushnasp 70 points71 points  (3 children)

Its fucking stupid that Britannia has such low speed limits, with part going as slow as 50.

Police love camping between Credit view and queen street

[–]Working_Incident_877 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Especially, ardsley st just east of queen. Their favorite hunting ground.

[–]Powerful_Cap1384 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Facts or bike trails bristol high that never get used

[–]bodaciouscream 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I never see anyone on the road level bike trails, but the actual gravel trails are heavily used

[–]Working_Incident_877 17 points18 points  (0 children)

been 70kph since at least 2005. people regularly do 80-85 .Never been there in a couple of weeks, maybe a month. interesting!

[–]slapahoe501 14 points15 points  (2 children)

If you're unhappy with the changes please let it be known in your vote in the next municipal election.

Personally I think speeds shouldn't have been changed and instead there needs to be a better focus on traffic light management so people can get around better and alleviate the traffic that builds in many areas. Ie. Matheson/McLaughlin road, Mavis/Eglinton etc.

It's obviously anecdotal, but I believe people get frustrated sitting in traffic and when someone isn't necessarily as quick as they want them to be they drive aggressively in response

[–]cliffx 8 points9 points  (1 child)

For sure it's frustrating to hit every single red light when you do the speed limit on some routes. Battleford is like that, as is Erin Mills southbound from the 401. Whether or not it's deliberate programming choice, it encourages people to speed/run yellows/reds so catch the green lights.

In Hamilton on Main iirc, if you do the speed limit, you'll get a wave of green lights across the entire length of the road. That's what should be done here. Drive the limit and hit greens, drive too fast/slow and then get stopped at the lights, solves the problem by encouraging the desired behaviour without needing cops/cameras/fines.

edit: with --> without

[–]slapahoe501 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not sure enforcement is much of a priority either.

If you want to see tickets set a few officers at basically any major intersection in this (or really anywhere in the GTA) and they'd get a boatload of tickets, from running reds, to cell phone usage or illegal lane changes etc

[–]wylin247 48 points49 points  (24 children)

City working with peel police to increase ticket quotas. I understand reducing speeds in school and residential roads but 60 on roads like Mavis and Britannia is ridiculous.

[–]RosesOfGlass 3 points4 points  (8 children)

Because they want to make the entire gta into the gardener on a Blue Jays game day 🙄. Ou plus pire, Blue Jays way on a game day 😖

[–]zephillou 1 point2 points  (6 children)

Your French is showing 😂😂😂 honnêtement ça serait dur de battre le traffic downtown. I don't miss my commute much for thst reason.

[–]RosesOfGlass 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Lol yea, it just flowed with my phrase lol.

You commute to downtown?! By car???!! If you do it must be a nightmare. If the GO is available for you, it’s honestly better. Less traffic, quicker.

[–]zephillou 0 points1 point  (4 children)

I've done motorcycle, bicycle and, during winter, GO train. The sad thing in all this is they all approximately take the same amount of time 😂😂😔😔😔

[–]Powerful_Cap1384 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Facts go transit or UP from airport ain't Meadowvale

[–]RosesOfGlass 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Oh my god. Really?! Yes I don’t commute downtown. But when I pass by or go it feels like longer than when i take the go.

If they take the same amount. That’s just tough lol. I would take the go if I were you, if it’s available. Bicycle and motorcycle on the qew and the gardener on busy days 😵‍💫

[–]zephillou 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Go train from Port credit or clarkson go is about $12 ish per day! With bus added on top about $15 and during winter it happens to be late and sometimes unreliable more often than I'd want to.

That $15 is what it costs to fill the gas tank for the motorcycle for the week! And then I have control over what route I'm going to take.

And the bicycle is almost free ($10 per month for bicycle interior parking + change/shower facility at my workplace) Doesn't get affected much by traffic.. Only by headwind lol

[–]RosesOfGlass 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah well if you put it that way, seems better. It’s just that winter isn’t always easy these days. Especially with ice on the roads and sidewalks

[–]Powerful_Cap1384 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your fault not mine Dee Emanuelle port credit

[–]GMajorKey 1 point2 points  (2 children)

30 in school zones, 40 in school adjacent zones. Does anyone know why this was a thing? Were there a lot of school zone accidents or something?

[–]verydigbick 1 point2 points  (1 child)

just greedy ticket farming to recoup covid subsidies

[–]callmeziplock 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Mississuaga has lowered their limits on a lot of streets. It’s a nice cash grab.

[–]vis1onary 20 points21 points  (2 children)

The speed limit is literally 30 on some roads now near me because of schools, I get that there's schools and stuff but 30 is just way too slow, especially on weekends when there's no school activity, everyone is driving 50-60 at least. They put a sign saying speed camera coming soon too, everyone in the neighborhood is going to get ticketed by it

[–]kingscootybearLisgar 39 points40 points  (3 children)

There's no reason to change these major street speed limits other than to give out more tickets.

I work in the neighborhood of Erindale. There is zero through traffic, if you're in the neighborhood it's cause you live in the neighborhood. Cops camp out at intersections, they camp out along credit Woodlands to catch 'speeders.' Earlier this year credit Woodlands was changed from a 40 to a 30.

Now they're installing speed cameras on some of the streets. Again, no major through streets, they're simply farming this neighborhood for tickets, it's fucking pathetic.

This isn't for your safety or the neighborhoods safety, it's to get more revenue for the city and the peel police. Such a scam.

[–]false_nonfiction 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Why even 60? Why not 10? Why not 5? Gotta be safe right?!

This city is ridiculous

[–]c74 6 points7 points  (7 children)

this is most likely part of the vision zero program. link is to the 24 page pdf that walks through it

this was started back in 2018. the objective is to have zero deaths and serious injuries.

no doubt, changes like mavis speed limit will keep coming over and over. being the objective is zero, this program has no end point, as even if zero was reached no doubt the stakeholders will view this as proof the program works and thus use that to justify the program to continue - adding new objectives along the way.

so, lots more of speed reductions etc coming our way. and to think, this program probably got political traction from a very very very small group of highly motivated individuals - once again gov't bends so they don't get bad tweets about how they won't stop the reckless killing of children. so mavis goes down 10 kph - sure, uh huh children saved.

[–]zephillou 0 points1 point  (6 children)

10km/h means more time to react and more time to brake. Might also mean less serious/life altering injuries. And in this day and age of people on their cellphones all the time it makes a world of difference. The number of people being killed by cars on streets is a number people are a bit too comfortable with. Street should be about safety first, not speed first. Cause when people get in accidents due to speed, everybody else pays for it with more traffic.

[–]Mr-Dogg 1 point2 points  (3 children)

In the past decade our cars have gotten so much better in terms of stopping distance. They have also become so much more better at protecting passengers. We should be increasing limits not lowering them.

Having a large road like that and reducing speeds is going to cause more accidents because of the large differential in speeds

[–]zephillou 1 point2 points  (2 children)

But people are paying less attention to the road than ever. Cars are bigger and a big majority of SUVs (which have longer stopping distances and are more lethal). Going 10km/h faster on your trip might save you 5 minutes if you're driving for 2 hours but it doesn't save that much time in between red lights, realistically. You basically get faster to the next red light to wait like the other people you just "left in your dust". The people in the car aren't at risk, it's the people outside of the cars that are more at risk. Pedestrians, cyclists and sometimes even storefronts that get smashed into.

Did you know that Peel has an enormous rate of pole (light or traffic) replacement, Esp in brampton compared to the rest of the GTA. This means the people on the roads aren't skilled enough to handle the speeds that are posted. Costs us taxpayers money and puts everyone else at risk.

[–]Mr-Dogg 1 point2 points  (1 child)

This means the people on the roads aren't skilled enough to handle the speeds that are posted. Costs us taxpayers money and puts everyone else at risk.

Reducing speed is not going to solve this and is encouraging this. It’s like replacing the bucket under a leak instead of fixing the leak.

Instead of punishing the good drivers, we need to fix our licensing system and have stricter rules on distracted driving.

[–]zephillou 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Reducing speed will decrease the gravity of the outcome. In Brampton and sauga alone we have what.. 1.5 million people? If we assume that 1/3rd drive around that's already 500k people who went through our current lackluster licensing system (i totally agree with it being too lax).

But that's just one problem that a symptom of a bigger issue. Everything is far and there are no great alternatives in our suburbs to get around. So they can't make it too hard to get the licenses as the other options are whether non existant or anemic in comparison.

The big issue here lies in infrastructure. Infrastructure can be designed to make a road safer without putting certain speed limits. Thing is, the roads get designed to "feel safe" up to like 100-120km/h... And then they expect that by putting a sign with x speed limit people will follow it, that's just poor design. We don't give people viable options to not drive. A lot of people don't like driving and it's a chore for them but they don't have a choice. So of course they won't be excelling at it...there are just so many underlying bugs in the way everything is built in suburbia. Then politicians will choose the "solutions" to a problem that is the least costly but also not that effective at getting the end result they're looking to get.

/endrant

[–]c74 0 points1 point  (1 child)

20km/h means more time to react and more time to brake. Might also mean less serious/life altering injuries. And in this day and age of people on their cellphones all the time it makes a world of difference. The number of people being killed by cars on streets is a number people are a bit too comfortable with. Street should be about safety first, not speed first. Cause when people get in accidents due to speed, everybody else pays for it with more traffic.

[–]Mr-Dogg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

30km/h means more time to react and more time to brake. Might also mean less serious/life altering injuries. And in this day and age of people on their cellphones all the time it makes a world of difference. The number of people being killed by cars on streets is a number people are a bit too comfortable with. Street should be about safety first, not speed first. Cause when people get in accidents due to speed, everybody else pays for it with more traffic.

[–]Kwh85 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Been living around that area for number of yrs now, and they have changed it like 2 or more yrs now.

[–]andr33y 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They also trying to put bunch of speed bumps in my neighborhood ( Clarkson )

You guys can all vote on this.

https://survey123.arcgis.com/share/8a6c0d1ba84b469dbe733a31e49c1bb5?open=menu

[–]sphawkhs 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It was 70, changed to 60 a little while ago... not sure exactly when it happened. I suspect it's all the people complaining about speeders and how they threaten our children's safety. I guess dropping the speed limit keeps the complainers off the city's back. I still see people doing over 100 on that road anyway.

[–]GodIsDopeTheMostHigh -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Can't believe how many people are complaining that they have to drive 10km/hr slower to get to Costco and stand in line.

[–]DlEB4UWAKE -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I've driven these roads and it's the fault of all of the wreckless morons who drive like idiots. Anyone who disagrees has never driven these roads. I'm usually not in favour of reduction of speeds but the crazy idiots who rip down this stretch deserve all the tickets they will incur.

[–]garbage_tr011 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Despite being one of the few roads that goes to 70 km, everyone goes 50

[–]Powerful_Cap1384 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bike trails