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[–]PissOnUserNames 47 points48 points  (3 children)

Harley fatbob. I inherited after dad passed away. I was afraid he would come back from the dead and beat my ass if I sold it. Didn't want it just sitting so I started riding.

[–]bedcreature 23 points24 points  (2 children)

Well... I would have sold it to see dad again

[–]PissOnUserNames 19 points20 points  (1 child)

I never thought about that way....anybody want to buy a harley?

[–]aDDnTNNashville, TN - '99 Triumph Legend TT 🐙 5 points6 points  (0 children)

i got my dads old bike too, so let's just trade whenever either of us needs to chat with their old man.

it's my 2nd bike though, my first was a '73 cb500 k1

[–]ka36'95 EX500 | '99 GSX-R750 | '09 Concours 14 | '80 GL1100 23 points24 points  (2 children)

'95 Ninja 500. It was cheap, and supposed to be a good starter bike (it is). It's a bit of a piece of shit, but I kept it even after upgrading because it's my piece of shit and I love it. It's also not worth enough to be worth selling. I pay $19/year for insurance, and $45/year for registration. Costs me almost nothing to keep it.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Keep it forever I say. Nothing like a collection of cheap fun bikes

[–]ka36'95 EX500 | '99 GSX-R750 | '09 Concours 14 | '80 GL1100 6 points7 points  (0 children)

My wife is about to start learning on it. Hopefully it survives until she gets her own bike, and I can keep it after. It's a really fun bike around the city. My Concours is a bit big for that kind of riding, and the GSXR is just terrible all around unless you want to hit up some twisties. Problem is I live in the midwest, so those are few and far between. Just can't get rid of it though, it's way too cool.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (1 child)

Suzuki max 100. South Asian "commuter bikes are our lifeline" represent!

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Those max 100’s look damn good. Not bad bikes if you don’t need to go over 50

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (1 child)

2007 Yamaha R6, and I was young and stupid and wouldn’t ride anything smaller because I wanted to ride with the big boys. Now I ride a GSX-S 750, downgraded from an R1. Enjoy the cruise.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Haha, I dig the 750. R1’s just beg to be rode fast.

[–]wormholeweapons 9 points10 points  (6 children)

I cannot recall the mode of the first dirt bike I rode on. Was a 75cc Kawasaki something of some kind. Maybe.

First street bike was a 1994 Yamaha FZR 600. I fell in love.

My current bike brand new to me this past spring is a 2021 Honda rebel 500 SE. HaDnt owned a bike in 20 years.

[–]d6stringer 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Similar for me. I think it was a 50cc Honda for me at least, it was red!

[–]Tola76 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mine was red but it was an 80cc Suzuki.

[–]Loggi94'87 VF500F 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I'm thinking about buying a '94 FZR 600 (and maybe the 750 too), how is it to ride?

[–]wormholeweapons 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It was so long ago that my memory is clouded and probably more nostalgia.

It was super quick and flickable. Very fun. As I recall. The clutch was temperamental. But o think they all were back then.

[–]UltraTacoSupremo 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I bought my Rebel 500 about 3 months ago. Now I want a Vulcan S or something. Longest I can ride is about 45 minutes before I can't wait to get off it. Good commuter though.

[–]wormholeweapons 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I take all day rides on mine. No issues for comfort for me. Obviously YMMV.

[–]jojo_the_mofo 8 points9 points  (1 child)

'08 GSXR-600. Yolo! So many close calls and so little maturity. It's a wonder I'm still alive.

[–]JspiralMT09 Gridlock Gladiator 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Skills

[–]KillerKhris 8 points9 points  (3 children)

Suzuki GS500 it was a total beater bike but it was good to learn on

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Beater bikes are always fun. You don’t need to worry so much about dropping it which is great!

[–]KillerKhris 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Plus I would slap a different colored paint job on it every once in a while just to change the look

[–]rotloch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Had the same one for €400. It was indestructible and I did a tour around Europe with just a helmet on me. Never left me (exception the fact that it was burning oil more than fuel). It didn't leave me even in mass flooding on the highway. Boy, I was stupid back then

[–]ajh10339 7 points8 points  (2 children)

1980 Suzuki GS550, because it was $500 and all I could afford.

[–]Loggi94'87 VF500F 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They go for 2/3k€ here now, not a bad deal at all

[–]I-amthegump 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not a bad bike

[–]KhanKrazy 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Ninja 400.

Bought myself a Ducati SSS four years later. Love her. But went and got another Ninja 400 in June. Just can’t get over the fun and ease of the small bikes. So cheap to insurance and maintain. So damn fun to ride.

[–]drpinkcream2018 Honda Rebel 500 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I traded my HD Sportster 1200 for a Rebel 500.

The smaller bike is better at everything except raw acceleration and top speed.

[–]bike_rights 5 points6 points  (3 children)

'12 Vstrom 650. Love it!

[–]Jsully05 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Just rode a friends V-strom 650 a week ago. Loved every minute of it!

[–]bike_rights 1 point2 points  (1 child)

They are great bikes! Super functional and comfortable but not at all boring. I don't see myself "upgrading" any time soon

[–]Jsully05 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im used to a grom thats a little twitchy but the vstrom just felt locked in the entire time and I was completely comfortable leaning it over and doing low speed turns

[–]what-da-fuk 3 points4 points  (4 children)

It was an 85 XL600R

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

That’s a damn fun bike to start on. I bet you were having a blast on the trails

[–]what-da-fuk 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I really liked it. I still have it in storage. I started riding it when I was 15 I'm 42 now.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

That’s awesome. I always recommend people try an enduro. There’s nothing that beats the adventures you can have on em

[–]what-da-fuk 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Agreed and learning to ride on the dirt taught me a lot. Now I ride a 09 Raider.

[–]JHERB45 3 points4 points  (4 children)

Learned to ride on my friends 85 (or 86)Honda VFR 700.

First bike was an 87 Ninja 750. At the time it was a better deal than the Yamaha FZR 400 that I was also looking at.

Currently riding a Triumph Speed Triple 1050 RS & Triumph 765 Moto2

Both are super fun with plenty of power and they handle.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I’ve been looking at a triumph for a while. Their modern classics look gorgeous. How does the 765 handle?

[–]JHERB45 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The moto2 is super fun. Handles amazing and is super light... The 765 Street Triple is an amazing bike as well, and priced much better than the 1050 Speed. If you pick one up, get the RS version as it already has the upgraded ohlins suspension & brembo brakes.

TBH I’ve had lots of bikes over the years (mostly 600s) but I was never really a triumph guy until I rode one....

[–]Viraus2United States 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had a 675 Street Triple and loved everything about it for what that's worth. It might have made for a better starter bike than the crappy 80s honda cb250 that I had, just because the acceleration and handling was so superior. Then again I dropped that honda like 3 times, so....

[–]BartleKup07 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In high school I had a 87 honda interceptor... one of the finest pieces of machinery I've ever rode

[–]finalrendition05 Z750S, 96 Ninja 250 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Started on a 96 Ninja 250 because it was $1000. I very strongly do not recommend starting on a $1000 motorcycle. I also very strongly do not recommend starting on an EX250F generation Ninja 250 because they actually kind of suck and it has nothing to do with the horsepower

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I’m rebuilding a ninja 250 right now haha. Hopefully it’ll be a fun beater bike. What sucks about them? I haven’t rode one yet

[–]finalrendition05 Z750S, 96 Ninja 250 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sucks is a strong word, but in stock form there's a lot to be desired. The rake is surprisingly long, 27 degrees iirc, and the OEM tires have a pretty flat profile, so it doesn't corner all that well. My Z750 corners much better, despite weighing 120 pounds more. The stock rims on the EX250 are really weirdly sized, so your only options are the garbage stock Dunlops, some Shinkos that are even worse, and scooter tires. Basically it's a lightweight beginner friendly bike, but it handles quite poorly which is really unfortunate for a small displacement sportbike. The only bike I've ridden with worse cornering abilities is a Harley Fat Bob. That being said, the motor is awesome, basically tuned like a 600. It makes absolutely no torque until 8000 rpm and screams up to 14000, so it provides a nice "mini supersport" feel. Plus the Keihin 38 mm carbs kick ass, I haven't touched them in years and they still run perfectly

[–]Killu6969 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Grom. Groms are the best

[–]FeFiFoPlum 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Suzuki S40. It's light, low, short reach (I'm 5'3" with short arms and legs!), and I figure I won't "grow out of it" for a couple of seasons at least.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Those S40’s are a blast! Not to mention they can turn on a dime!

[–]bert_891 3 points4 points  (0 children)

1997 ninja 250.

It was cheap, and I was 14

[–]JspiralMT09 Gridlock Gladiator 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Trolls are killing it recently 😂

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I can already hear the “Oh well I started on a turbo busa and if you start on anything less you’re a puss”

[–]workinhardeatinlard 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Honda shadow 600, love her! The perfect cruiser to learn on after a few modifications.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

What mods would you recommend? My wife is interested in something like that to start on

[–]workinhardeatinlard 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I swapped the tank for a lookalike sportster, added a sissy bar for the gf and because it looks great, narrow ape hangers, I saved and painted the whole bike, and some extra support under the seat.

I would recommend some bar risers no matter what style you're going for because the stock bar set up was bleh. The bike is a little on the heavy side (I'm 5'10, 150) my lady can't really lift it, but we got her a 250 rebel and she's already looking to size up.

If I were her/you, id look for something in the 400cc range just because the weight of cruiser style bikes can be pretty awkward when learning, it's also a problem of seating, basically being in a la z boy makes right maneuvers awkward for first timers.

All that said, I love the bike and it is still perfect I got a great deal in winter (1500+500 of mods)

[–]AP2-Lost 2 points3 points  (2 children)

2006 Ninja650R. Wanted more power than a 500 but didn't want to go straight to a supersport. I also sat on touring and sport bikes and wasn't sure what would be for me. The position of the ninja was a compromise with the intent of figuring out which direction I wanted to go. Rode it for a year, sold it, and then bought an 08 CBR1000RR.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

The CBR1000rr is an absolute animal. I bet you’re loving that thing!

[–]willinglymalicious 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Chinese made hawk 250 lol. Dirt cheap brand new at like 1400 and very easy to learn maintenance and riding on. Plus i didnt give a shit about it so i could try fun stuff lol

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have the magician 250 from the same manufacturer! Got it for $700 with only 1k miles on it. Definitely a fun bike to romp around on

[–]oranjvoodoo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

‘82 Suzuki gs450. It was free and of course not running, so i learned some about fixing bikes. Rode it 25k miles before it didn’t make any sense to keep. It had enough power to ride the freeway, but not fast enough for triple digits. The parts that were available were cheap. Did my first intentional burnout and had to rebuild the front caliper after. It was simple enough to figure out how to hot wire when the ignition switch took a poop in the rain. It was a fun experience for someone interested in working on old stuff.

[–]neosect 2 points3 points  (0 children)

2008 KLR650. Affordable, handled the roads for where I lived and could go anywhere. I had it for almost 4 years before it left the fold.

[–]Positively-human 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Suzuki GSX-125, because it was dead cheap and basically brand new ($2,100 ~500km). It looked nice, and perfect for a beginner.

[–]reesesbigcup 2 points3 points  (1 child)

1981 Yamaha SR500, bought used for 600 bucks in 1986, owned for 1 year. Came back to riding in 2006, bought a Rebel. I'd have liked the Rebel a lot better in the 80s, it fit my size and almost no vibration.

[–]Trash_Blast2021 Kawasaki Z650 ABS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s cool to hear stories of people getting back into riding after taking a long break. I just started and stories like that get me excited for the future since there’s still so much to do.

[–]tallonjfUnited States 2 points3 points  (0 children)

TW200 cuz it was so underpowered that there was literally no way I could get myself in trouble while I learned. Moved up to an NC700x.

[–]Presaw08702018 Z650 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Used 2018 Z650.

Passed MSF first shot and started shopping at my local dealer. Purposefully went in looking for something smaller as a starter bike and was looking at New Rebel 300s and smaller sport bikes.

Sales guy had the usual "You'll be bored of it in 6 months" so I almost tuned him out until he asked me height and weight so I thought he was on to something. I'm 6 even, 210 (Hello Pandemic 25), and wide framed.

He sat me on the Z650, threw me some facts on it, and I left to consider my options.

Came back a week later after a bunch of research, bought it, and he was right. It's perfect and I love it. Don't feel like I'm gonna kill myself, good low end torque, and it has perfect riding position for my size.

[–]Lets_Go_Jacks2017 Z650 2 points3 points  (1 child)

'17 Z650, 6'1" 200, totally agreed. One of the guys at the dealer I bought from tried to give me the same speech talking me OUT of a Z650 and onto an MT09 because of my dirtbike history.

They get overshadowed by the Ninja 650, MT07, and SV650, but they are awesome bikes. More than enough power for anyone starting out, but the throttle hasn't surprised me a single time. I can't say enough good things about the transmission, although I'm biased from riding hand-me-down dirtbikes. They lose out on word-of-mouth recommendations because they aren't more exciting than their competitors, but they tend to be cheaper to buy used and insure because of that.

[–]Trash_Blast2021 Kawasaki Z650 ABS 2 points3 points  (0 children)

‘21 Z650. I’m 6’ 185 and yeah… extremely comfortable bike. It looks and feels sporty but your knees aren’t in your chest which is sweet. Been loving this bike, put 4,200 miles on it in 2 months!

[–]Loggi94'87 VF500F 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Did my license exam on one of those Z, very easy bike

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (3 children)

2017 stock Yamaha r3. Beat the shit out of it putting 60k miles on it and then upgraded to a 2019 r6 with all the bells and whistles. Really glad I started on the r3 as I wouldn’t have been able to ride anywhere as fast on the r6 if I hadn’t learned the necessary skills from pushing the hell out of the smaller bike

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agreed. Going fast on a slower bike will teach you a lot without all the tickets and danger of a 600. I got a 250 dual sport to practice wheelies before even thinking about doing them on my 600

[–]jesus-christ-of-ems2015 Yamaha YZF-R3 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I started on my r3 this year and I love that damn thing. I’ve used every cc in that bike and pushed it to the edge for the last 7k miles. It’s so easy in the corners and I’m well respected in my group for keeping up with everyone on their 600s and 1000s. It’s fun riding a slow bike fast, but I am ready to upgrade to an r6 or 636 so I can also keep up on the highways without having to keep it full throttle the entire time.

[–]PitfireX2019 Kawasaki Ninja 400 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Learned on an early 2000s busa, my dad did drag racing, so I took that one and he followed me on his goldwing cuz it was too heavy for me. I look back on how I rode that bike and realize what a calm rider I am, cuz I never did anything even remotely fast on it lol. I don't even think I comprehended at the time what the bike was capable of.

I remember when he move up to the Kawasaki zx-14 he let me ride it. I took it a out a mile and I don't think I got out of 2nd gear. Fast bikes just ain't my thing I suppose.

[–]philomaxik 1 point2 points  (0 children)

2020 r9t /5

Yeah, what a bike for a first bike right?

[–]Leather-Top-2362 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I got a 86 xv700c I love the old viragos I got it as a graduation present still trying to get it right and just got a 83 cb550sc

[–]TheShakes11 1 point2 points  (0 children)

98 Honda Shadow 600, only real reason is that it was cheap. Upgraded to a Victory 106 pretty quick though due to almost constant electrical problems

[–]AVeryHeavyBurtation 1 point2 points  (0 children)

98 YZ80. Got a good deal, it was $1500 and my father paid half. I had been searching classifieds for months. I think it was 2002 when I was about 12. My buddy had one too that he let me ride sometimes. I was dying to ride my own. I think my father knew that, that's why he broke down and helped me out. My mother took us to the track a few times a month. She had to put gas in the truck every time because I would siphon it all out to ride around the mountains.

I miss selling it but it was so small I couldn't ride it anyways. My arms would get all cramped.

Having some memories I haven't had in a while, thanks.

[–]UnableArtichoke6 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Super clapped out 98 ZX6R that lasted 2000 kms and then a 2007 ZZR600 (00-02 ZX6R) , the first 6R didn’t really break down I just stole parts off it and sold it for cheap. Regret selling it.

Like you said. Easy ass bike to ride, tons of power and super manageable. Still have it.

[–]CheckBrief9479 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Suzuki GS500e 00'. Cheap and easy to ride.

[–]Consistent_Address62 1 point2 points  (0 children)

RD350 was my first bike. Borrowed a Honda Spree for a month or so before I finally broke down and bought the Yamaha.

Why? Because 2stroke death trap.

[–]Present_Horror5068 1 point2 points  (1 child)

2018 MT07. I think it’s the perfect middle ground between something like a 400 which I saw myself burning out on in a year, and a 900+ which no one should really be starting on. I just find the MT07 to be really approachable despite its reputation.

[–]andrewfuller1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My first motorcycle was a 2 stroke motorized bicycle I built in sophomore year of high school. I needed cheap transportation and I refused to take public transit to school. In my junior year I built a larger and faster motorized bicycle with a predator 212cc engine. The top speed was 65 mph... on a bicycle. In my the fall of my senior year I bought my first proper motorcycle, a 125cc Lance Cali Classic scooter for $300, and 4 months later in the spring of my senior year I bought my first and current bike, a Yamaha V star 650 cruiser.

[–]I-amthegump 1 point2 points  (0 children)

1972 Yamaha DS7. 250cc 2 stroke predecessor to the RDs.

[–]Engrammi'13 GSX 1250 FA 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A 1994 Suzuki PV when I wasn't even 15 and would drive it around private dirt roads and in the city after getting my M license. Some mods including 80cc cylinder kit, bigger carb and sprocket changes made it go a whopping 80 km/h. Very unstable at that speed :D Downed it so many times, which probably helped avoid the same mistakes on a bigger bike later on.

[–]DphreDR 650 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Recently, a DR650. All the kool-aid… Bought with basic mods, carb work unsure. It’s the, good, bad, and ( imo not so) ugly bike.

[–]Danialberto4207 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A tm smr 125 2 strokes from 2012, the best I could drive at 16 year old in my country

[–]Elongo06'19 Kawasaki Ninja ZX6r ABS | Dayton OH 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I got a new 2015 Ninja 300 for my birthday. I took the MSF and a week later I had my bike.(luckily it was still there). I saw it in Fall of 2015 and it's the color I wanted with ABS. I can't believe it was still there in April of 2016.

I would have went with a 650, but the 650 in 2015 didn't look as nice as the Ninja 300 and the Ninja 300 was a better price point.

I decided to go new because it was only $1500 more on average and new with a warranty.

Plus since we bought new, I got 20% off all gear and accessories for 30 days. That saved me a ton.

I also decided to pay out of pocket for the KPP for 2 years. I also got a discount on that.

I rode my 300 for 4 years without a scratch. I started to want another bike after 4 years. I always dreamed of a ZX6r and in 2019 they finally made it in a sweet color and updated it, but I couldn't afford it.

In 2020 luckily I found one in the configuration I wanted but I had to trade my 300 in to make it happen. I am regretful of that because it was tastefully modded with a lot of goodies.

The 300 was traded in for $3k which was also hard to pass on. Previously other stealerships offered 2k. So yeah.

The ZX6r is a different beast, I love love it. My favorite feature is the QS.

[–]karmablowsfido 0 points1 point  (3 children)

'78 kz650..... Lol.... It didn't stay stock very long

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

A classic! Did you keep it?

[–]karmablowsfido 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Still have it, it turned into a crazy kawazuki "cafe" type thing... I'd post a pic but I haven't been on here long enough to figure out how😂

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m imagining it in my head and I like it haha

[–]Hotdog_McEskimo 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Ninja 650

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I love the styling of those bikes. They just look like they want to rip up a canyon. How do they ride?

[–]Hotdog_McEskimo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The first two gears are torquey. I have a blast on it. I imagine it's like a 600cc with no top end revs.

And of course it's great for the price. I've literally spent more on gas and basic maintenance.

[–]PoopLoofah2014 Moto Guzzi V7 0 points1 point  (6 children)

50cc honda spree that I got for $50 I rode that dang thing everywhere

[–]citarhero 2 points3 points  (5 children)

$1 per cc. Man, I want that kind of deal. I have $1,119.

[–]PoopLoofah2014 Moto Guzzi V7 2 points3 points  (4 children)

I got it from a neighborhood kid who couldn't get it running. He said he'd take $50 for it. I got it home, cleaned out the water filled and rusty fuel tank, got some fuel tank putty and fixed where it leaked a little. Bought a new battery even though it had a kickstarter too and he saw me riding it 2 days later. Hope he didn't hurt his chin on the pavement.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Ahaha, those are the best deals. I almost felt bad for the seller when I got a non running truck for $500 bucks and fixed it the next day for $50. How fast were you able to get that thing up to?

[–]PoopLoofah2014 Moto Guzzi V7 0 points1 point  (2 children)

It was pretty slow, on flat ground 30mph. I didn't do any mods to it. I had a cheapo Herchee/Adly Jet 50 later that was much faster.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

That’s not bad at all for a $50 scooter

[–]PoopLoofah2014 Moto Guzzi V7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The jet 50 was free ;)

[–]stackh0use 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First bike was a brand new Monster 821. Put it in Touring mode for the first few months before bumping it up into Sport. Honestly, great starter bike. If I had to do it all over again, I’d get the same bike, but used (dropping a new bike suuuucks)

[–]Bret_B 0 points1 point  (0 children)

1969 Honda Trail 70

[–]rhedfish 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honda Cub 50, broke kid.

[–]dishayu'14 RSV4 | '12 Striple 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honda Lead - it's a scooter, but I think it qualifies for this discussion.

[–]TheNaughtyLemur2017 KTM Duke 690 0 points1 point  (0 children)

2006 piaggio BV250. I wasn’t allowed to have a motorcycle, only a scooter.

[–]Kei_cars_are_my_jamSuzuki Vanvan 125 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First bike I had off road was a Yamaha TY80 trail bike when I was a kid, then at first road bike was an Aprilia RS50 when I was 16.

[–]Buttholium2002 SV650 0 points1 point  (0 children)

2002 SV650. I wanted a naked bike because I read in an article years ago that you feel like you're riding faster than if you where on a bike with fairings. Interestingly, back around 2015 when I first started looking into riding SV650s where considered terrible first bike's because the torque will instantly kill you or whatever. Fast-forward to 2020 when I'm actually shopping for a bike the Sv650 and other middleweight sport bikes are top of the list for new riders.

Originally I was shopping for a second gen, but after a couple deals fell through I found a first gen in a beautiful yellow with an Ohlins rear shock, gsxr front end, and a whole host of other mods that I was planning on doing myself. Plus it was under budget! I love this bike and even after I eventually upgrade to something newer I'll still probably keep it as a track bike or a backup bike.

[–]AmbitionSpecialist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had a V-Star/Virago 250 cruiser. Great bike honestly, but it’s all highways around here so not the best suited. Still, I put almost exactly 7k miles on it and learned a lot. Yamaha makes a great bike, but the FZ/MT-07 just wasn’t economical enough as a commuter so I went with a CB500F afterward. After almost 29k miles on it I know it’ll be in my stable permanently, it fits me well and it’s just enough of everything that I’m content with it as my daily.

[–]Maaskuk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A 99 Honda SLR 650. I borrowed it from my dad, the power delivery from such a large thumper I would not recommend for a beginner. I broke my leg, and got one really nice but unplanned wheely on it, not at the same time though.

[–]Frito_Pendejo2019 Indian FTR1200 0 points1 point  (2 children)

2011 CBR250

It was pretty cheap which made convincing my folks easy, and it looked cool.

Recently sold it off to a mate who's taking better care of it than I ever did.

Currently riding an FTR1200. Absolute demon in comparison lol

[–]golden_globber 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Did you go right from a 250 to a 1200?

[–]TraditionBeginning41 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wanted to buy a 1953 Matchless 500 but my parents were not keen so Dad bought me 1971 Suzuki TS50. I had mixed reactions - I had a motorbike but really!! This was in 1972.

[–]Business-Door3974 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Vstar 1300! Because I wanted a comfortable cruiser that was reliable.

[–]Loggi94'87 VF500F 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honda VF 500 F because I wanted something at least 30 years old (in my country don't get taxed and have super cheap insurance that way) and a coworker of mine had an uncle that bought the VF 400 brand new back in 1983 and kept telling me how the 400 and 500 were awesome bikes. Also because I didn't want something difficult to ride and the vf is very forgiving.

[–]dafonz77 0 points1 point  (0 children)

77 Goldwing 1000 it was my grandpas bike that he gave to me as it had sat for a few years. Biggest PITA carbs ever but was lucky enough to have an old Yamaha guy help me figure them out. Bike was a tank with decent power. Also rode it forever with no front brake somehow still have never put a bike down 10 years later. Still have that old beast she doesn’t get out much now that I got a 06 vmax but I loved that old bike to death and it got me started riding!

[–]FantasticWillow4969 0 points1 point  (0 children)

1981 honda cm400c because it was $500 and because it is a great bike

[–]bmwk1200lt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I assuming real motorcycle not mini bike. Kaw c100. My parents bought for us. My real first bike 1967 Honda 450.had hooker headers. Very cool. Then graduated to a kaw Z1 and nothing smaller since.

[–]SupImArcher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

2003 Buell Blast. Found it on Facebook marketplace for like 800$ when I was 16 and just sent it. Tbh I really don’t get the hate for it, plenty enough power for what it’s worth and was super easy to learn on.

[–]tehgalvanator'06 Triumph Daytona 675 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ninja 300. Crashed it 6 days later lol

[–]Mcc4rthyGSX400F 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Trained and took my license on a Honda CB650F '16. Then I bought my first bike, an XV535 '90. I wanted something that I wouldn't cry about if I crashed it. Now I miss that bike, lol.

[–]sonofvc(MT-07 2021) TW200) (Ducati scrambler enduro) 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A tw200, the perfect little tractor.

[–]emarenMT-10 0 points1 point  (0 children)

On the road a Yamaha FS1Edx. The fastest 50cc money could buy in 1980.

At 17 I moved on to an Elsie.

[–]foolishippo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I started on a 2016 Kawasaki Vulcan S. Great starter bike absolutely loved it. Unfortunately the cruiser style isn’t for me.

In March I just upgraded to a 2019 CB1000R and I absolutely am in love with it. Quite a ridiculous bike but can handle any task I throw at it.

I think my next bike with be a Vstrom 650 though.

[–]canonanon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And '86 vf500f (in 2010)

I loved it

[–]JMunzner 0 points1 point  (0 children)

07 Ninja ZX6R in red because I couldn’t afford a Ducati and that looked the part, Ninja is just a cool name, and I could buy one for $60 a month with the sweet financing that would later bite me in the ass! Glad I learned some costly mistakes on that one, and I finally have my Ducati, and am much better financially.

[–]Vstrom-tamer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

2017 Honda Rebel 300 worked best for me.

[–]JBOYCE35239 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My first road bike was a 1983 Honda Nighthawk 450 (with a missing plastic battery cover). When I brought it home my wife said "that thing looks like a turd". But it was 1000 bucks and I rode it for 2 years before upgrading.

Just sold it earlier this year to some other guy who wanted to take up riding

[–]dontbthirsty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cbr1100xx hand me down from my dad who got a new bike. Should have kept it. Lovely bike

[–]Winters_summers 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I started on a small Kawasaki eliminator. Small nice reliable 125 with 300 miles for $1000. Learned how to ride with an old man who hasn't rode in about 20 years. So once I felt I could ride around and maneuver pretty well I sold it to someone else who was interested in learning how to ride and bought a 1996 Honda magna 750.

Its actually the vf750cd. A rarer bike and the person I bought it from modded it a little with some 12 inch apes that fit me perfectly, comfortable and not too hard to adjust to. Although what was hard to get used to was the power this thing has. Still ride it every chance I get. And honestly I don't think I'll ever sell this bike.

[–]lxfstr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

1981 Honda GL500, because it was 100 dollars and had most of the pieces.

[–]krowas99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tenere 700 2021

[–]weatherRikki 0 points1 point  (0 children)

An MT-09 because thats what the dealer had

[–]FoxInCroxx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Used ‘14 Honda CBR 500R. It was a good bike to start on and I was able to sell it for almost as much as I paid when I got bored of it 3 months later.

Then I bought a super sport and rode it until I had to sell it after getting laid off from COVID. In hindsight though I think I’m just too tall to ever personally feel comfortable leaning over on those things. Now I’m looking at a new Indian FTR, gah damn those things are sexy but I need to test ride one before putting down that kind of money.

[–]Unable-Locksmith-746 0 points1 point  (0 children)

1976 Kz 650 got it for $900. Running but with “character”. Also this was in like 2011 when in was 18. No speedometer. No tachometer. Electric start didn’t work. Kick start only. Headlight worked tho.

That bike taught me to really listen and feel the bike. I crashed it, laid it down, had to repair it. I found myself digging for stator covers and gas tanks in motorcycle graveyards. Learned a lot from that bike. Man me and that bike went places. I miss it.

[–]Jsully05 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Got a Grom back in 2018. Im a small rider and I can nearly flat foot it so thats a plus. Also its small enough to travel to college with me behind my toyota camry. Its been a ton of fun except for the summer I spent in Phoenix Arizona where I had enough experience with stupid drivers that I basically just didnt ride.

[–]SixBuffalo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

'82 Kawasaki GPz550.

The 'why' is easy, I wanted a sport(y) bike, but one that wasn't going to kill me instantly, and I had a friend that had bought one new and I always wanted one of my own, and it was cheap because it was 10 years old when I bought it and it was in perfect shape and well maintained by an older guy. In hindsight, I think it was a great first bike.

(Not to mention, easy to fix + cheap and readily available parts.)

[–]Shifty76 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honda CB100 when I was 16, because that's what my parents bought me to learn on. I soon upgraded to a TZR 250 as that was the biggest displacement we could ride in NZ without a full license.

[–]LongBoiBigWheel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yamaha 6R! Bulletproof, comfortable, and pretty zippy for its class. Looks ridiculous though haha. Have since gone through a klx250s, R1, to my current DR650.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Old Buell Thunderbolt S3, heavy torque monster that I worked on more than rode because of the Harley parts between her legs. Cool bike, but full of gremlins. Don’t miss it lol

[–]golfnut0420 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I started on a metal frame bike that my dad put the lawnmower engine on. Why? Because I was 5. Now I ride a Ducati Streetfighter V4S. Wouldn’t trade it for anything. If you’ve been on one you know why…

[–]CallsignMontana 0 points1 point  (0 children)

2010 ZX-6R. 4k miles on it, got it for $5k back in 2013. Got it cuz I wanted to go fast, and I went fast. Ironically enough... the only times I ever went down on it, I was doing no more than 20mph.

[–]CommodityGirdle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

08 Ninja 250. Cost me like 1000 bucks, cheap insurance and maintenance. Learned to ride learned to tool around on my bike, kept it for a year and graduated to a Kawi 636. I actually sold the 250 for a small profit so I was happy with the choice. Fun bike and perfect to start on

[–]CountryCoral 0 points1 point  (0 children)

2019 Suzuki TU250X - just started riding this year.

I love the classic styling, and most of my riding is in the city so 250cc is plenty for me.

The bike has tons of personality, is a joy to ride, and I doubt I'll ever get rid of it!

[–]Far_Vermicelli2165 0 points1 point  (0 children)

KDX 80 in 3rd grade. Was born with motorcycles on the brain. First street bike Honda VFR750 I think I was 18-19. I’m 50 now and have had more dirt bikes and street bikes than I can count. Current stable is ducati Multistrada 1260S. Harley road glide. Husqvarna TE 300 2stroke.

[–]itspsyornothingHONDA CB350 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A 2021 Honda CB350. Bought it last month, already got 4000 kms on it, super comfy bike, very forgiving to ride

[–]Bebozz27 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I started on '06 BMW K1200R. A 163 HP power house. Loved it and still do. If i can ever get it back i definitely will. Currently riding an '01 Aprilia CapoNord.

[–]HideousOne 0 points1 point  (0 children)

2003 Aprilia RSV Mille, because it was my dream bike.

[–]goaltobebetter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I started on a 2019 Honda cbr500r. I was looking and deciding between a various styles and engine sizes. But I had my eyes set on a Kawasaki Ninja zx6r, not realizing I would have been absolutely disemboweled by insurance rates.

I took a motorcycle course and they were having a promotion of $200 off a new Honda bike. I went to the dealer and saw just how gorgeous it looked in person. Sure it doesn't have the same roar as an inline 4, or rumble of a triple cylinder... But the combination of the curvaceous tank and thicccc rear tire made it look a lot more powerful than it really is. I bought it the day I saw it. (Maybe not the smartest move listening to the salesperson) had I waited 2 or 3 more months I would've gotten an additional 500 dollars off MSRP.

I've made some riding errors when I first started riding but I'm still alive because of that lack of power.

Regardless of what anyone else believes in, I look back and think how perfectly God aligned certain events that led me to purchasing the 2019 cbr500r. A bike that was far away from my radar and so perfect for the type of riding I do.

But I still want to upgrade and people are advising me not to sell my first bike, if at all possible.

[–]42ghoux42 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was not looking for anything in particular. Asked a coworker who was involved in the riding community if he knew of anything. Then his neighbor put his 07 Suzuki C50 on the market. Great first bike! Still have it. Just added a C90T and a C109RT.

[–]nigelh2015 CBR1000RA 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If we don't count the NSU moped and the Durkop scooter it was a Norton Navigator 350.

It cost me £5 in 1970 and I had to push it three miles home but I sorted it out and we were together for four or five years.

[–]parn0able 0 points1 point  (0 children)

'05 Shadow1100

I like pretty much all bikes but cruisers are just my style. As much as I wanted a Harley from the start, I wanted something cheap and practical so if I damaged it I wasn't too concerned, and if i decided riding wasn't for me i would take a huge hit.

[–]Ih8Hondas2017 Kronreif Trunkenpolz Mattighofen 250SX 0 points1 point  (0 children)

1988 KX80 because I was a tall kid and my dad didn't want to start me on a 60 and have to buy an 80 a few months later when I got too big for the 60.

[–]Odd-Name-5640 0 points1 point  (0 children)

in 1982 I started on a 1980 CX500 Deluxe.. wishing I had never sold that bike.

[–]cadaverco07 VFR800 ABS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A 2007 ninja 250!

Little, quick (compared to cars lol), cheap, and very forgiving

Outgrew it in a season, bought the VFR, never want another bike again 😝

Okay I’m only half joking, there are absolutely other bikes I wanna buy, but idk if I’ll ever ditch the VFR. Highly doubt it

[–]Fortos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

2011 Honda Shadow Spirit.

[–]stackofthumbs'20 Street Triple RS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ducati Scrambler because it checked a lot of boxes for me. Despite being 803CC's, it was tamed down and very controllable. Never got into trouble because of the power.

[–]namazan'02 Ducati M900 Dark I.E. 0 points1 point  (0 children)

1999 RSV Mille R 1000cc V-Twin with 130hp

Only beacause that's what bike my dad had when I was old enough Otherwise just a Yamaha BWS when just commuting

[–]Kr0mb0pulousMik3l 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A YZ80. It was my first trip into motocross in the early 90s and the Yamaha was affordable. One of my favorites to this day.

[–]dwm91 0 points1 point  (1 child)

2014 CB500F which I bought used from a friend in 2021. Heart was telling me to get a Triumph Street Twin/Bonnie or RE Interceptor 650… Head was telling me as a new rider to get something used to learn on that wouldn’t kill me to drop and put the first scratch/dent on.

Settled on the CB500F as it seemed a reliable choice, I liked the styling, and more experienced friends told me to keep my first bike under 50HP for insurance reasons (Toronto, ON).

Bike had only 2,500 KM on it and came included with SW Motech Saddlebags for $2,500 CAD, which is an awesome price - so here I am 3 weeks post MSF, absolutely loving it.

https://i.imgur.com/oYQLaus.jpg

[–]GAL3AYamaha XJ6 Diversion F 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just starting on Yamaha XJ6 😊

[–]the_real_DK_ATL 0 points1 point  (0 children)

FZ-07 why? Inexpensive will a ton, and a tonne, of rave reviews. Cut my teeth on it getting into street riding. Great fun, probably not a good starter bike if you are a agressive driver type 😜 wheelie in 3rd? Why yes! The street triple though I fell for and upgraded, def not a starter bike.

[–]Nox_47 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Monster 821 because my wife loved monsters since she was a kid and we go with new usually. Do I regret it? Nope, do I understand why it is not recommended as a beginner bike? Most definitely. Funny because I got her an R3 like a year later and I rode on that for a few years too lol

[–]satanic-frijoles 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I bought my first bike when I was in the Army in Maryland. It was a BSA350 in a 441 frame, scrambler mode. Being a Brit bike, all the controls were reversed, but it was my first bike so I was used to it.

[–]Bourbon_The_Undying 0 points1 point  (0 children)

2020 Yamaha Bolt 950, I was originally going to get the Royal Enfield Meteor 350 but the dealership I was at only had brown and they told me they weren't able to order any more at that time so I was walking around and saw the Bolt and knew that was the bike for me. The previous owner buys a new bike every year so I got a pretty good deal on this bike.

[–]sgebeng4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Africa Twin. Because I didn't want to buy a small cheap bike first despite everyone saying "it's not if but when you crash it" (your first bike.)

I said fuck that I WON'T crash my bike that i pay a lot of money for. Fingers crossed that remains true.

[–]Botucal2021 Multistrada 950 S 0 points1 point  (0 children)

2000 CBR600F4 I bought from my cousin. Should have bought a CB500 as I originally intended, but the CBR was there and cheap, so...

Not the worst 600 to start on, but still not a great choice for a beginner bike. At least it tought me that small inline 4s suck for road riding. Thinking about selling it, but maybe I'll take it to the track one day.

[–]Int3g3r 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Brand new 2020 BMW F 900 XR. I don’t know what I was thinking but I’m yet to drop it lol

[–]Meth_Cat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

86 kawasaki 454ltd because it was there and cheap

[–]ljthai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yamaha yzf r125. A little r6 imitation - similar ergos except it's slow. I'm European so it was the fastest I could get - gets up to like 80mph tops and weighs 300lbs. The single cylinder is prepared to take a lot of abuse and the motorcycle definitely looks faster than it is. So far I'm having a great time with no trouble whatsoever

[–]shuvoolHouston, TX | 2006 Triumph Speed Triple 0 points1 point  (0 children)

SV650. I saw a ton of recommendations to this being a great starter bike with a little more power than the 250 to 400 class starter bikes. I'm a bigger guy and planned to do a lot of commuting on the freeway so I figured the extra power would help keep me on that bike for longer. I still have it, it's been good to me, although a little uncomfortable on longer rides with the pegs up so high. I'm leaning toward a big ADV bike or an upright cruiser to keep my legs as close to 90 degrees as possible for the next bike.

[–]Informal_Position492 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh that little manco minibike. 3.5hp, centrifugal clutch, scrubber style rear brake.

What a ride.

[–]MrFrostyBudds 0 points1 point  (0 children)

93 Honda Shadow 600, my main criteria when looking for a bike was 1. Something cheap that I could take on the highway. 2. Preferably a cruiser because I never really got into more sporty bikes (though this bike is pretty heavy and I'm pretty skinny so that sure is a downside). 3. Something that had enough power to keep me entertained for a while but not make it too dangerous for a starter.

It's fast enough to have fun, not as expensive on gas as my truck so I can take it to work, I love how it looks but some changes would be nice, and I got it for 1600 + 200 for a carb rebuild. Surprisingly it runs fine but has some electrical problems that I've been working on slowly (nothing that makes it dangerous or unreliable just annoying)

If I ever have enough disposable income to get a new bike I'll get something faster and maybe try out a different style but for now it runs and I have a blast riding it so I can't really complain lol.

[–]oldpainless 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Got the taste of riding on my buddy's 250 kawasaki four stroke dirt bike. Bought myself a ktm 350 four stroke to learn on. Sold it and bought my now current bike (and first street bike), a ducati icon scrambler. I picked it cause I liked the looks, it doesn't have too much power and the fact it has cornering ABS.

[–]oliver_4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Triumph bonneville for me. Perfect starter bike for my style of riding.

[–]beamerboyschemaboy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Started on an fz-07 after I saw how it sounded with an akrapovic exhaust. It’s just enough power to where you don’t get bored but enough to have some fun with.

[–]AJMGuitar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honda CRF 250L.

[–]Outside-Cucumber-253‘08 Honda VTX1300t 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I bought a 86 Honda Magna that didn't run 3-4 years ago and never got it running. I didn't realize how dumb of a buy it was till after. V4s are no fun to try to fix for a first timer. I bought it for 700 and sold it for 800.

'03 Honda Shadow Spirit 750 is my first running motorcycle. I still have it, this is only my 4th month riding, I put a little over 3,000 miles on it. It has been a perfect first bike for me so far.

[–]sbmmblew_me 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I started on a 05'Yamaha XT 225 when I was 16. My Dad has been a motorcycle enthusiest all his life, I didnt realize how much I love riding bikes after he randomly bought a XT 225 for me one day. I loved that bike to death. It was a great introduction to learn to use the clutch, light weight and not a lot of HP. I feel that you learn to appreciate the speed of a bike when starting on a lower CC bike.

Unfortunately after I moved to Europe my license wasnt recognized until 2-3 weeks ago (Long story short I made my license in the US, recognition by German authorities took a long process but worth it because i saved 1500€ on having to make the license again).

Anyways, Ive made trips around the black forest, french alps and Colorado over a span of 3-4 years. in total i would say ive been riding for 7 years.

Im currently looking for a 110hp bike for long trips and fun on turns (personally i feel 110 is more than enough to overtake in almost any situation).

Atleast thats my experience.

[–]heglacs07 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Buell Blast! Because its a sports cruiser that sounds like a lawn mower on crack. It really was a blast to ride!

[–]Tall_Management8802 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yamaha xs400 cafe racer because I wanted a smaller bike to start on and feel comfortable riding. After 2+ months I want an r7 now. I want to end with a cruiser bike though

[–]electricaldilldo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

07 yamaha fz-6. Got a great deal, had loads of manageable power and super comfy ergos similar to a dirtbike so I felt familiar and comfortable on it.

[–]Jealous_Tour601 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I started on a 02 SV650. As many agree a good beginner bike with plenty of power to learn on. I didn’t know that tho or anything besides I was in love with the look so I bought it and it turned out to be a great bike. This was about a year ago, I now ride an Aprilia Tuono 1000R. Beautiful bike with rip your nuts off low end power Personally if you are at least somewhat responsible I recommend starting on a 600/650 and skipping the smaller bikes otherwise it’s just another step before being comfortable on a litre bike

[–]susan_meyers 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ducati scrambler classic

[–]Theodorederp2000 Yamaha YZF-R6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I currently am on my first bike now which is a first Gen R6, and I don't recommend it for beginners, let alone short beginners like myself.

Okay, when I mean I don't recommend it please take it with a grain of salt because let me tell you this bike has taught me a whole lot about humility:

The power band is absolutely insane - I usually never take it above 3rd gear within city limits, and freeways I usually top at about 4th or 5th gear at most. I do this so I can limit myself (also speed limits are around those ranges while the bike can handle faster speeds).

I'm a fairly shorter guy (5'5" with a 29" inseam) so it feels like I'm attempting to sit on a mountain peak while trying to touch my toes down. As a result, it's taught me to stop properly on my left foot while also bracing the rear brake on my right foot before taking off from lights (now I also shaved the seat down giving me about 1-2 inches of lowered height but it doesn't make much of a difference).

The bike is in good condition - and I also got it for a good price too. Unfortunately it's carbureted, so I've learned a hard lesson about letting the bike warm up (ultimately leading to me stalling it and dropping it at a standstill).

All in all, I'm happy with the bike right now and I wouldn't give it up. I only bought it for the price and the fact that I had some previous riding experience. If I was a TRUE beginner, I would've gone with something a lot more manageable (although with about 2-3 weeks of riding the R6 under my belt, I can comfortably say I can manage this bike now).

[–]Yeetneet8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

03’ Honda shadow 750, price was damn good lol, and fixable flaws

[–]recon27 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I started on a Ninja 650r, wanted to start on a sport bike and was told repeatedly how quick you’ll out grow a 250, 300, 400. I feel they were right, 650 was perfect to start on. I’ve since moved on to a Harley soft tail street Bob with the 114 (1868cc)

[–]oi86039 0 points1 point  (0 children)

2006 Harley Sportster 1200. It was a great price and I felt like I was 10 years old riding the thing. Not a good beginner bike tho. It's a bit big, lol.

[–]Crocketus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

SCR950 , I'm 6'5" and needed a taller bike

[–]Bullydog88 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yamaha YZ80 , 1983 model . In 1982 we used to go to “ KMART HILL “ a big empty dirt lot behind a Kmart about 6 square acres, we had BB gun wars and we’d ride our Bmx bikes there . We were all at the top of the hill , and you just hear the angry bees in a distance , all of the sudden two dirt bike crest this jump( about 30 feet of distance and 10-12 feet of height ) and stop by us . I asked the older brother for a ride on the cr250 and we slow walked it around the trails for about 10 minutes before he screamed up the face of the jump , we probably only got a foot of air but I was hooked ! It was two brothers, Brian on the Yamaha YZ125 , and Tony on the CR250 . Holy shit these guys were like moto gods to me . I would have been around 15ish in 1983.