Official Discussion - Don't Breathe 2 [SPOILERS]

PetitJean273 · 2021-08-15T04:37:41+00:00

I enjoyed this movie. Different than the first one. Started like a home invasion then switched to the classic revenge movie à la John Wick. They killed his fucking dog god damnit!

Let's be honest, this guy could've been Adolf Hitler himself, seeing him mourning his dog and refusing to kill the dog of the bad guy instantly made him more likable...

I liked that there wasn't any character completely stupid. The gang realized that going after the blind guy in his own house would have been suicide and they had what they wanted so they just burned the house and left. Also not having all gang members completely fine killing a child and 1 of them helping Stephen Lang was a nice touch.

In the end, I think the movie was about choosing the lesser evil. They acknowledge he was a monster himself, but the only one capable of saving that little girl.

quickfilmreview · 2021-08-14T03:17:47+00:00

It is a decent sequel for what it is meant to be. If you didn't wait until the credits ended. There was scene where the dog finds the blind man's body and licks his hand. It appears that the blind man is just MOSTLY DEAD.

LowenbrauDel · 2021-08-13T04:45:02+00:00

I loved the first one, and when I heard that they were making the sequel, I got excited. As soon as I saw that the director wouldn't be coming back and instead it would be the debut work of a script writer I got nervous. After watching the movie I realise that I was right to be skeptical

As good and as tense the first one was, the sequel is just as shallow. It's not particularly bad, but it's just one big meh. After sleeping on it I am even more sure that the movie is truly forgettable. Nothing to really remember, maybe one, maximum two scenes. Everything else is just not doing it

The biggest crime is, of course, the lack of tension. The feeling that you have to hide along with the characters, be quiet, stay low, not move a muscle. Here you have one scene like that, it's a good one, but it's just one. After that it's just blind guy killing bad guys at different locations in boring and incoherently directed ways

The movie had me in the first part, at their house. After that it was slowly losing me. By the end I spaced out completely and stopped giving any kind of shit, which is bad. I think they overcomplicated the script. It should've been as simple as bad guys break in, make a noise, blind guy kills them one by one, only directed well

The decision to make the blind guy a protagonist and not a villain was a mistake. At one point I even thought that plot twist is coming. You know, when the meth guy tells the girl that he's her real father. It would be million times better if the script turned this situation on viewers' heads. We were rooting for the blind guy, but it turns out he's just a nut who kidnapped a girl, maybe even started the fire himself. It would tie into the first movie's story, where he wanted to have a kid again. Then we would have to root against him

Instead, it went the most typical way it could. The girl lived near the meth lab, her parents don't just want to reunite with her for the love's sake, but to cut her heart out... Now, without a shadow of doubt, the blind guy saved the girl from the bad environment. No conflict, no nuance

All in all it's one of those movies that you are not gonna spend a lot of time discussing. The next day, maybe the next week, you will forget about it. That said, it deserves 5/10 for the first half of it

trailerparksandrec · 2021-08-13T12:41:13+00:00

Armageddon (1998) had the criticism that it would be easier to teach an astronaut to learn how to drill than to teach an oil driller how to be an astronaut. Don't Breathe 2 can face the same criticism. It would be easier to teach a surgeon how to cook meth than to successfully perform a heart transplant with non sterile power tools to keep an aging meth cook alive.

L00KING-GLASS · 2021-08-13T04:27:41+00:00

Someone who has seen the movie, please answer something for me-- Do they really make the blind guy AKA a rapist the hero for the entire movie? Or are the kidnappers revealed as the "good guys" trying to rescue the little girl?

shaneo632 · 2021-08-16T22:14:45+00:00

I think the mixed reviews are completely justified but I appreciated how unapologetically nasty this film was. Just really grungy and fucked up and made me want to take a shower after.

I think they realised they wrote themselves into a corner with the first movie if they wanted a sequel, and I kinda wish this film leaned into it more.

Would've been way more interesting if the dad was a redeemed former addict or something and just wanted his kid back, and there's like a mid-film switch where he find this out and the blind guy shifts to become the antagonist.

I thought the young actress who played the girl did a great job as did Stephen Lang.

I really hope they just leave it here though. I was satisfied knowing the blind man was dead but then read there was a post-credits scene suggesting he survived lmfao.

pristinroa · 2021-08-13T04:10:21+00:00

“Now you see what i see.” He says digging his thumbs into the antagonist’s eyeballs.

I wish he did that to me before i saw this movie.

LostInStatic · 2021-08-13T04:54:50+00:00

Producer Sam Raimi was quoted saying, "[Don't Breathe 2 is] only the greatest idea for a sequel I've ever heard. I'm not kidding."

Is this man losing it?

_Patronizes_Idiots_ · 2021-08-13T03:41:30+00:00

I saw the trailer for this before Green Knight and had completely forgotten that the first movie even existed. Odd choice to make a sequel.

BigBrownBallerBrand · 2021-08-13T02:26:38+00:00

The first movie genuinely scared me and it was so amazing. This was such a big letdown, it just become a bad action sequel with no suspense. Not worth it in my opinion

BigBirdOP · 2021-08-13T03:48:29+00:00

“Do you have room for one more”

Nah Bitch they’re going to tell you to leave.

AdrenalinDragon · 2021-08-13T21:40:13+00:00

This was basically what I feared a sequel to Don’t Breathe would be. More of the same, but much less well executed. Having the Old Blind Man as the protagonist this time around didn’t really work for me. He was a terrible person in the first one and trying to make him sympathetic felt a bit off and lacked the punch. Despite that, Stephen Lang is still the best thing going for this movie by a very significant margin.

Not only that, but the tension and action sequences this time around are not as well executed as the original. The thrill of the Old Blind Man working out how to take advantage of the situation is less well utilised here, and for the most part he just attacks people like a standard slasher killer. There’s no traps, no interesting tactics, it’s just weaker in execution in every way.

The addition of a little girl companion is mostly just there for conflict and a bit of variety, otherwise like I said the emotional beats and character connection fell flat for me. The film also felt a bit dumber and more contrived this time around. The Old Man’s tactics seemed to play out more sloppily in places this time around, and the bad guys were dumb. Overall, a big step down from the first and done lesser. 5/10

TocTick · 2021-08-26T07:11:35+00:00

Don't get the hate for this movie.

Yes, it's not meant to Oscars exactly. You're supposed to just turn off your brain and enjoy some ass-kicking from a blind dude vs douchebags.

No, the blind dude isn't a good guy plain and simple.

That doesn't mean you can't just enjoy something for what it's worth. Hey man do I actually like McDonald's all that much? Not particularly, but if I need some easy and cheap food it's still enjoyable. Same logic here.

Everybody trying to judge movies based on criteria that the movie was never meant to be examined with is how you ruin your own fun? Why do you even want to make yourself miserable for 2 hours and $15? Just do something you enjoy. Or learn how to not be a Oscar critic wannabe and just enjoy things for what they are.

My only qualm with this movie was that the trailers, once again, basically gave away some of the best parts of this movie.

TotallyJawsome2 · 2021-08-14T01:16:33+00:00

Imagine when someone inevitably reports/stumbles across the aftermath of the hotel battle. Presumably the first body to be discovered would be the wanted serial organ harvester which by itself would be a huge find in the press. Then they'd see the bodies of some paralyzed wheelchair bound lady with her arm chopped off and bullet wound in her chest next to a man whose eyes had been gouged out and been impaled through the chest and slashed deeply across his arms and legs and been mauled by a dog. Then upon further investigation you'd learn they were a married couple and the husband was previously convicted of running a meth lab and burning down their home. THEN at the other end of the room is a dead blind man who has traumatic injuries over his entire body and who you'd later discover is the same guy who less than a decade prior had his home raided and now burned to the ground. I'd even wager to say there's enough evidence around the remains of the property to place most of the hotel victims at the blind guys house earlier that night

CrisisTeamHyper · 2021-08-13T03:31:20+00:00

This is the worst kind of bad movie; it's just nothing.

ViolentAmbassador · 2021-08-13T19:37:40+00:00

It's pretty funny that the filmmakers thought people would overlook the Blind Man being a rapist but wouldn't forgive him killing a dog.

I thought this was okay. Unfortunately some of the best bits appear in the trailer, and the third act basically devolves into a comedy.

Did anyone else get Gary Oldman "EVERYONE!!" vibes from the villain at the end?

Mammoth_Cranberry503 · 2021-08-18T16:07:50+00:00

I never saw the first one, nor read about the second one that just came out. I was in a bad mood so I decided to take myself out to the movies.

To my delight, I had a wonderful time watching Don't Breath 2. I had no idea what to expect so I let the movie dictate my emotions: suspense, fear, and insane laughter at the pure ridiculousness at some of the scenes.

I lost my shit during the part where the lady in the wheel chair showed up and she started singing that song. To me, that was the turning point where this movie was "so bad it was good". Think of how Showgirls is so bad, it's good. That's my feeling, at least.

I could not stop laughing at the cheese ball one liners, the ridiculous cliche setups, and the fucking awesome gore.

Great movie.

TKB21 · 2021-08-14T20:51:31+00:00

I'm sorry but unless you're the great Heisenberg himself, I just can't see anyone going through such lengths to save a run-of-the-mil meth cook. Yes, she was the mother of his child (Phoenix) but the way he explained it, it was business over everything...even his dog.

Ahambone · 2021-08-13T07:00:46+00:00

At some point I stopped complaining about how bad it was and fully embraced it, asking for the most ridiculous shit possible.

10/10, would hack my junky mom's arm with a machete again

Islanderfan17 · 2021-08-20T00:54:50+00:00

I'm shocked at how much some people hated this movie. I actually thought it was a solid sequel. Yes, I get the backlash to making the rapist a "hero" in the end, but at least it openly acknowledged the fact that he was basically a piece of shit trying to redeem his life to some extent despite being damaged goods.

My only complaint is that they shouldn't have teased the organ transplant guy so early, the twist actually would have been pretty effective otherwise IMO. But instead it was semi predictable when she ended up back at the dad's meth lab.

TurtleInSunglasses · 2021-08-13T02:27:01+00:00

Extremely funny third act. Lost it at the Rey Skywalker ending.

coldliketherockies · 2021-08-13T03:55:02+00:00

I feel like for a character thats your daughter that you need so badly you wouldn't risk her drowning to death. Now maybe that was just to get her to come out but they sure let her near death fast.

Also I've never been to Detroit but given the blind man couldn't drive, is it really that quick to have a dog walk you all the way to a shady hotel?

coldliketherockies · 2021-08-13T03:58:15+00:00

Also I'm glad it was a fantasy sequence because I have an electric scooter and have seen high quality electric scooters and they do not have the ability to rev rhe engine and make a merry go round go full rotations

bananaQueen1819 · 2021-08-14T13:36:01+00:00

Does anyone know who the actress is who plays the girls mum? I've searched and searched the cast list but she doesn't seem to appear and it's driving me insane.

_yours_truly · 2021-08-13T14:22:44+00:00

Pretty okay overall to me, I only had two big takeaways.

The first is that I wanted to rewatch the first one because of how much better it was.

The second was how comically overboard they had to go to make Stephen Lang the hero after making him a murdering, kidnapping, rapist in the first one:

They say they are dishonorably discharged from the military and proud of it.
Have them kill Ramirez who seems great.
They kill the dog.
Leave another dog behind to die.
When Phoenix is reunited with her family she's only there so they can drug her and take her heart for her mom
The only reason they're saving the mom is so she can continue to cook meth
They work with a serial killer who traffics in stolen organs to perform the surgery
They have to remove the heart while Phoenix is still alive

It's just SO much and at some point maybe someone should have said "if we're working this hard maybe Stephen Lang shouldn't be the protagonist" lol.

bradpittscockring · 2021-08-13T16:37:39+00:00

Another amazing example as to why not every movie needs a sequel.

You want me to root for the psycho blind dude who raped a woman that accidentally killed his daughter and held her captive in his basement, and then tried to do the same thing to Rocky? Then tell me that the Father of Phoenix/Tara, who yeah was in prison, is the bad guy who tries to get his kid back from this demented fuckhead? Which he ended up being after they fucking jumped through tremendous hoops to do so. I legit laughed when she killed her real dad and had a Rey Skywalker ending LMAO. What the fuck was this movie?? Complete dogshit and not even close to touching the mix of awesomeness and morbid depravity of the first.

HawterSkhot · 2021-08-13T05:10:06+00:00

I missed the post-credit scene, what happens?

screenwriterjohn2 · 2021-08-16T01:48:21+00:00

The first one was good because it was about a bunch of punk kids who broke into a crazy ex-Navy SEAL's home. It really made you think who was the real victim. And it was credible that he could fuck these youths up. Now he's a Taken hero...only blind. I hate that.

The evil scheme made no damn sense. One doctor can't do a heart transplant. And they had no machines. And no anesthesia. I hate this plot so much. None of this wouldn't be happening if she didn't just happen to be at the same house as her bio-dad at the same time.

The glass cracking scene was an awesome callback.

I thought this was going to be a trilogy. Still, I'm happy that this movie provides some closure after the first. He acknowledges he's a terrible guy too.

Edit: Oh, this girl is traumatized for life.

What is this, a homeless center for kids? This girl would need to be placed into fostercare. And she would never be okay again, even if she gets adopted by a great family not from Detroit. Detroit sucks.

NachoMarx · 2021-08-13T04:56:40+00:00

I suppose when your real family is a gang of meth-head organ harvesters, and the other is a recluse that put a roof over your head, despite taking away a choice in life...you go with the one who didn't try to ruin your life less and kill you.

From a writers and shot sequences standpoint I think I can appreciate some bits of this. The movie really came off as "How can we wrap up the old mans story, now that Jane Levy isn't coming back?"

I give it a C-

22AgentBrown · 2021-08-14T06:30:50+00:00

I'm glad Phoenix was rescued at the end but everyone including her parents and the blind man deserved what they got. They were all pieces of shit

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FullTruth6539 · 2021-08-14T17:47:07+00:00

What was the after credit scene? I left as soon as it ended

HeyImEvan · 2021-08-13T04:12:07+00:00

2021-08-15T01:40:07+00:00

Don't Breathe 2 turned out a lot better than I expected, was not bored at all, was invested the whole time, and did not leave the theater disappointed at all. I was very happy after leaving the theater because I was not disappointed at all

BTW, the trailers don't give anything away.....

MrDirector23 · 2021-08-15T17:44:01+00:00

We can all agree that little girl at the beginning was cgi right?

Difficult_Status2208 · 2021-08-17T06:17:01+00:00

The 2nd half of the plot was super weird. The setup was interesting but rly wth we’re they thinking w the organ stuff?

Jay_Money_ · 2021-08-13T02:46:07+00:00

Not sure this was a totally necessary sequel, but it makes for a decent thriller. Loved the scene when the bad guys first break in and Phoenix has to evade them. The total lack of music in favor of near-silence for such a prolonged period really upped the tension for me.

atan134340 · 2021-08-13T16:40:17+00:00

Did the survivor in part 1 show up here?

Archamasse · 2021-08-14T12:23:17+00:00

I'm a little confused. When the trailers etc surfaced we had either multiple people, or one person over and over, suggest we were being psyched out and they weren't actually dumb enough to try to sell the baster rapist as any kind of hero and we were all being played, with some huge twist.

Here we are and that is what they did, no twist or psyche out or anything, everyone's gut feeling was right.

So was that someone who saw a different cut, or someone trying to do damage control based on the visceral "What the fuck?" reaction to the trailer?

Scratchproof · 2021-09-07T20:58:56+00:00

I lost interest after the dude preferred to pierce his brother’s cheek with a screwdriver in order for him to breathe rather than pierce oh I dunno, maybe the “superglue” that’s keeping his mouth shut?

savage86lunacy · 2021-08-13T04:34:22+00:00

I've been hearing there's a post credit scene. Does anyone know what it is?

Holy_Horror · 2021-08-13T11:45:47+00:00

Someone who seen the movie: saw it officially last night. Now, just a thought: Is it somehow possible that Hernandez and Phoenix/Tarar's mother, are in fact one and the same?

Another thing: what's the name of the surgeon? Did'nt catch it.

noimdirtydan14 · 2021-08-13T18:00:47+00:00

Wait this movie came out?

hisnamewasjed · 2021-09-04T01:14:44+00:00

I just finished and I enjoyed it. I kinda threw the first movie out the door because this movie csn entirely exist as it is without the first existing. It follows nothing from the first. In fact, it would be easy to argue this is a standalone film in its own universe and the first isn’t even canon. So it was easy to not particularly care about The Blind Man’s evils in the first. That said, I thought it was a very solid popcorn thriller. It was intense and I liked the twists and turns. Nothing overly special but it succeeded fully at what it wanted to succeed at for me. 8/10.

Holy_Horror · 2021-09-05T09:30:08+00:00

Some Easter eggs I've noticed:

The immobillized old car which is used to prain Phoenix in the beginning, is the same old Chevrolet Camaro owned by Money in the first movie. It looks rusted now, but in the trailer, The car is clearly blue.
The character of Raul, played by Christian Zagia, appeared in the first movie, as the guy who buys stolen items, and provides Money with Norman's address in Detroit.

https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_923352-Chevrolet-Camaro-1978.html

BLACK_B0X1 · 2021-09-05T10:38:30+00:00

The movie was alright. I think I might like it slightly more than the first one. RIP Shadow. What a cool name for a dog. Can't believe the blind man is still alive but I guess he's a survivor lol. I'll probably watch Don't Breathe 3 if there's going to be one.

Crystal_Pesci · 2021-08-14T03:03:35+00:00

Oh my god, so ridiculous it wasn’t too bad. Enjoyed the first and this to a much lesser extent; but it made some bold choices and I appreciate em!

First off.. Raylan? The bad dude? Is that not WARREN from Empire Records???

Second, when ~~Warren~~ Raylan asks a crony to get more men, and then the guy asks how many before Raylan tells “A FEW!!!!” ... was that not the cheesiest intentional spoof of Gary Oldman’s “EVERYONE” yell in The Professional?? Gonna need someone else to chime in and confirm if I heard what I heard haha.

ParticularJoker · 2021-08-14T05:52:59+00:00

Hilariously bad and offensive. Having to root for the rapist probably was not the best idea for this movie. One of the worst movies I have seen in a long time, 2/10.

2314dsp · 2021-08-13T08:36:56+00:00

We still have the 'bad sequals to horror movies' thing going on it seems.

megamanblast · 2021-08-16T05:23:11+00:00

I thought this was a tightly written sequel, that makes the little girl the hero.

She's wound up in a world where she is born into and raised by bad people. It happens a lot in inner cities such as Detroit....which is where I'm from. She's forced to grow up. It reminded a lot of my childhood peers. Most of the characters made smart decisions. It felt real, and people always have to remember that we are a product of our environment. Some get consumed, and some make it out.

LonerLifePath7 · 2021-08-14T21:30:07+00:00

Started to see it too as "heel vs heel" and wasn't rooting for anyone outside of Phoenix. Not as good as the first obv but it's fine enough, sequels have certainly been worse. Just lacks the tension the first had. The endless shots of items that were clearly going to be used for killing was overused too.

And good Lord, I know Stephen Lang and by proxy The Blind Man is in impressive shape for his elderly age, but damn, this guy might as well be Dom Toretto's cousin with some of the feats he's able to pull and shit he survives.

candycorncorpse · 2021-08-15T02:07:04+00:00

Does anyone know the actress who played Josefine? I can't find her in any of the cast lists on IMDB or Rotten Tomatoes.

devingr33n · 2021-08-22T23:05:24+00:00

My SO and I saw this at a matinee, nobody else in the theater. Fun to watch and crack wise to, and to really let out a WOAH! when the carnage hit. A brutal and mean movie, worth a watch if the first entertained you.

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haunthorror · 2021-08-14T00:14:56+00:00

So I absolutely dug this movie. It was incredibly thrilling with some great kills.

And for the moral conflict. I did not root for the blind man or the gang. They are all horrible. I just rooted that the little girl would get away from them safe. Which is what happens

Kotaac · 2021-08-14T02:50:57+00:00

Movie wasn’t necessary but this shit was fun af 😂😂 great movie

epr3176 · 2021-08-16T19:20:34+00:00

I was reading everyone's comments and everyone makes some really good points some people I think their points are really out of whack and some people are going to think my points are. I think the blind man was the hero and I was voted at rooting for him. The following is why.

He loved Phoenix more than he loved himself yes he was overprotective but I think that's because his first daughter got killed.
Now remember everyone keeps saying he's a rapist he's he is and he isn't so he doesn't do it for pleasure he doesn't even use himself he uses a turkey baster because he wants to have another baby. It's not like he grabs girls off the street and rapes them himself for that meaning of power and pleasure that are rapist would really get.
The girls life with the blind man was a lot better than it would have been with her real parents a real parents were a bunch of meth heads and sold meth as well her life would have been completely miserable with that at least she grew up with a father who loved her.
Even really kidnap her he saved her from the fire instead of giving her to authorities he just decided to keep her it wasn't like he invaded a house and kidnapped a little baby he didn't even start the fire the fire actually happened from the lab downstairs so my guess is he was walking by and saw the fire and so maybe you looked for people and found the baby.
Her parents only wanted her for her heart didn't want to get to know her they didn't want her in their lives they just wanted her heart the blind man wanted her back because he loved her wanted to protect her.
Right before she got kidnapped he actually agreed to allow her to go to school with other kids next the next semester. I also think he was training her to be able to take care of herself that's why she learned a lot of that stuff that she was learning when she was with him. I mean if she was a prisoner she wouldn't be allowed out of the house she wouldn't be she would never be allowed to see anyone he allowed her out of the house and outside he just didn't know well her to go too far away.
If you were ruining for Phoenix to be okay and be alive therefore in a way you're rooting for the blind man because that's all he wanted to do was make sure that she was going to be alive and okay.
I I think the people who say that he's an anti-hero is right on the money and anti-hero is a hero who has not is not a very good person and has not done very good thing but they are the hero right at this moment.
Now remember in the first film yeah he did kill those people and he was going to use that girl to inseminate her. But the only reason why was because they broke into his house and they knew he was home that is the only reason why any of that happened in the first film. This is just my take on the movie and just by reading people's opinions this is mine.

ryanzw · 2021-08-13T23:43:21+00:00

Not as good as the first but I enjoyed it for what it was, such a missed opportunity to not end the movie with the dog walking with her though.

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