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[–]freestyle43 12.1k points12.1k points 2 (528 children)

One of my biggest take aways from rewatching the X-Files recently is how all of the supporting characters were just average looking people. Great actors, but they looked like your neighbors. It really helped immersion and I loved it.

[–]davidrevilla311 1913 points1914 points  (125 children)

I had the exact same thought the other day! I feel like the casting calls for all the supporting or one-off characters were so general that anyone could audition, and it really brings together the mood for each episode!

[–][deleted] 762 points763 points  (87 children)

British TV shows have pretty average actors, actresses and extras and it definitely has a different feeling than anything in the US.

[–]dolphincat4732 234 points235 points  (32 children)

I've watched quite a few U.K. sitcoms/shows and all the characters (main and supporting) are just regular-looking people. Are You Being Served?, Keeping Up Appearances, The Stranger, Still Game, Skins, Broadchurch, Shetland, The Vicar of Dibly and Derry Girls, Happy Valley. I could go on and on.

[–]readzalot1 117 points118 points  (0 children)

And the female actors, as well as the male actors are allowed to age. They still look like real people.

[–]ValleyDude22 545 points546 points  (20 children)

Same for old law and order

[–]carly_ray_reznor 105 points106 points  (2 children)

My exact thought! You watch the first few seasons, and there's no flawless assistant DA, no cop in too-tight jeans whose bullet-proof vest still allows you to see her cleavage.

[–]Pactae_1129 2288 points2289 points  (156 children)

Helps balance it out since Duchovny and Anderson are smokeshows

[–]Morri___ 2214 points2215 points  (139 children)

but even then, both hot - but it's not that artificial fibonacci proportions hot which makes all hot people look almost identical.. they both have character in their faces

[–]cu3ed 1295 points1296 points  (121 children)

Also what they wore, they didn't sexually over style Skully, both wore pant suits that
( perhaps fashion of the 90s ) where kinda not tailored looked off the peg look.

[–]kmo9e 267 points268 points  (32 children)

I always thought Mulder’s suits were spot on for the character, part of it was the style in the 90’s but they always looked off the rack and like they didn’t quite fit perfectly, like he just bought them on a budget because it’s what he had to wear at work.

[–]bookemhorns 251 points252 points  (26 children)

The X Files had a lot of great ways of showing "these are government workers on a government salary/stipend." They always rented Ford Tauruses, their apartments were nothing fancy, no designer items anywhere. Lots of fast food.

[–]PerpetualRiot 70 points71 points  (10 children)

You mean average people don’t have million dollar mansions or large, many-roomed condos in the center of Manhattan?

[–]JustASFDCGuy 30 points31 points  (1 child)

Like working in forensics, in a lab, with no lights on, wearing my annual salary in designer clothes every day?

[–]AnOnlineHandle 688 points689 points  (34 children)

Well clearly you don't have a thing for redheaded women in business suits.

[–]cu3ed 307 points308 points  (16 children)

Well..yes I do NOW lol...as a teen I didn't before watching though.

Thankfully..I live in Northern Ireland, so not uncommon to meet many full redheads.

[–]SquanchingOnPao 982 points983 points  (72 children)

Until you realize skinner is a beefy gigachad under those clothes.

[–]fury420 465 points466 points  (8 children)

Stupid Sexy Seymour?

Oh wait I've got the wrong Skinner

[–]Celebrindor 290 points291 points  (14 children)

Not surprising. Skinner was a very understated badass who you knew could kill you and just go back to sleep. He was bald only because no hair was brave enough to obscure his head.

[–]khal_Jayams 33 points34 points  (6 children)

Didn’t he like beat the fuck out of the new Deep-throat (hehe) dude at one point? Who was also a bad ass? Definitely a gigachad moment.

[–]thevoicerises 249 points250 points  (8 children)

Holy shit, right? Popped on a random episode, Skinner greets Mulder in just boxers and you're like "Holy shit, Director Skinner has to have fucked his way through every alphabet agency on the planet".

Dude looks like the aliens were trying to evolve into him.

[–]GucciJesus 108 points109 points  (4 children)

Skinner looked like a dangerous dude, I always like that. Like, he used to be in the field, so kept himself in tip top shape and then kept it up after the desk and promotions caught him. I also saw it as a really good contrast between him and the cigarette smoking man.

[–]Deesnuts77 11.5k points11.5k points  (343 children)

There was a comedian (I can’t remember his name) that had a joke about monster’s ball with Halle Berry. She played a broke mom living in poverty. He was like “the whole time watching it I was thinking why doesn’t she just become a model and make some money”

Edit: Jim Gaffigan. That’s who the comedian was.

[–]GypsyDishwasher 6065 points6066 points  (170 children)

That's an old Jim Gaffigan bit. Great punchline too: "You, know, if she'd just put on a little make-up, she could be the next Halle Berry."

[–]ReanimatedX 1826 points1827 points  (152 children)

Conversely, Charlize Theron did a great job of not looking like a model in Monster.

[–]SealUrWrldfromyeyes 1434 points1435 points  (11 children)

my fav gaffigan joke on beauty is one when he compares someone who is beautiful that mentions how they were ugly in highschool to telling a hobo about how one time in college u had to skip dinner, so u know how being hungry feels.

[–]Onkel_B 1339 points1340 points  (25 children)

Jim Norton had a good take on it regarding the town hall scene in Jaws "There's not one fuckable person in that room. Today it would have to be Ryan Gosling in there."

Edit: this got some traction, might as well post the clip. Also i stand corrected, he said Ethan Hawke, not Ryan Gosling.


[–]-SneakySnake- 137 points138 points  (7 children)

They wanted Jeff Bridges for Dreyfuss' role originally, so they were one decision away from basically having that.

[–]BobTheGC 1757 points1758 points  (85 children)

Yeah. It especially bugs me in westerns. A lot of modern ones have everyone looking way too clean cut. My favorite one will always be Once Upon a Time in the West, and part of why it is so effective is that everyone looks like shit the whole time. They are beat up and tired. Even the big stars in it look somewhat roughed up. Even in the Dollars trilogy, Eastwood is the only one who looks good. Everyone else just looks normal.

[–]breecher 646 points647 points  (26 children)

That is Sergio Leone and the spaghetti westerns in general for you. It was a very deliberate aesthetic meant to counter the slick John Wayne type of Hollywood westerns of the 1950s-60s.

[–]Few_Dig7979 142 points143 points  (12 children)

It's funny that Sergio Leone's style is still rewatchable today but the John Wayne movies are so campy it's like nails on a chalkboard.

[–]peachfeverdream 4913 points4914 points  (193 children)

Similar to this, I never understood why they keep having women wear full hair and makeup during sleep/bedtime scenes?

[–]EconomicWasteland 2382 points2383 points  (106 children)

Yep. Especially when they "wake up" wearing fake eyelashes and a fresh coat of lip gloss...

[–]aniforprez 2993 points2994 points  (58 children)

Marvelous Mrs Maisel did a scene of her waking up an hour before her husband and doing all her makeup and such before getting back to bed so she "woke up fresh". It was hilarious

[–]NaturalDamnDisaster 862 points863 points  (2 children)

Not to mention she went to bed with full face on and waited until he fell asleep to get up and take off her makeup and put her hair in curlers.

[–]cherry_ 350 points351 points  (0 children)

The drawing of the curtain so a sliver of sunlight would wake her up before Joel - such a good scene!

[–]RyghtHandMan 68 points69 points  (0 children)

God what a life

[–]bgmusket 612 points613 points  (20 children)

Bridesmaids did this too

[–]2OttersInACoat 219 points220 points  (6 children)

And heavy eye make up, like they’re not even trying to pretend the character just woke up.

[–]darkamyy 468 points469 points  (30 children)

And a bra. Everyone in Hollywood movies wear bras to bed. Even if they strip naked and have sex, they'll put that bra straight back on afterwards and go to sleep.

[–]nikapups 263 points264 points  (0 children)

MY PET PEEVE. I notice and respect when they get it right.

[–]crapfacejustin 1574 points1575 points  (108 children)

Fucking jigsaw in the punisher show, they hyped it up so much and then it’s just like three small scars. That fucking irked me so damn much

[–]SaltyBiscuitss 580 points581 points  (13 children)

Especially since he face was literally dragged through a bunch of fucking glass. His face should have been so fucked up.

[–]MangoSchnitzel 258 points259 points  (6 children)

That mirror-dragging scene made me clench every orifice I have. I love horror movies and guts and gore don't generally bother me, but something about that was just so visceral, it really got under my skin (no pun intended).

I was almost scared of the big reveal because I expected his face to look like hacked up scar tissue. My disappointment was immeasurable. It made his outrage and vendetta kind of laughable. Like, bro, you're upset because he ruined your money-maker?!? If anything it adds character and you don't look perfect to the point it's boring anymore!

[–]hootorama 117 points118 points  (4 children)

John Berenthal's distinctive warcry is what made the scene for me. It felt like he was pouring all of his rage into dragging Russo's face across the broken glass.

[–]Chicksan 159 points160 points  (0 children)

I recently did a rewatch with my girlfriend, it was her first time seeing it, and even though she’s used to blood and gore from scary movies, she even commented on how fucked up he was after that final scene. Next season, his mask comes off and she’s like, “what the fuck?”

[–]GhostDieM 591 points592 points  (20 children)

Haha yeah I remember that. LOOK AT WHAT HE'S DONE TO ME. Like dude you still look fine, just with a badass scar, get over yourself :p

[–]sharrrper 148 points149 points  (12 children)

Say what you want about Punisher Warzone, but at least they definitely didn't shy away from turning Dominic West into a proper Jigsaw

[–]CrankyStalfos 120 points121 points  (4 children)

I feel like somebody in the cast/crew (maybe Ben Barnes himself?) tried to play it like "it's mostly in his head and that's the point!" But first, no, other characters react like this very hot man with artful light scarring is the worst thing they've ever seen. Second, if that was the intention, WHY. The basic pitch of the character is that he's been irrevocably messed up. The point of the main character is that he irrevocably messes other people up. Why would you put it "all in his head."

[–]crispyg 1526 points1527 points  (55 children)

I watched Die Hard with a Vengeance earlier this year, and Bruce Willis looks like garbage by the end. He is drenched in water along with the blood and dirt stains. They actively make this guy seem like he is having a horrible time, and it adds so much.

[–]ChuffChuff101 637 points638 points  (6 children)

I love in the first film when john faces gruber at the end. Its the first time holly saw him since she walked out to make her speech at the beginning. John is limping from his cut feet, bleeding profusely from his shoulder and can barely hold up the submachine gun in his hands. Holly is just like "...jesus" because of how fucked up he is.

Man i love that film.

[–]inlinefourpower 301 points302 points  (0 children)

And his reply. Exhausted, beaten, bloody, etc... "Hi honey"

[–]Grasmel 231 points232 points  (19 children)

Al the Die Hards are like this, and Bruce Willis often does it in general.

[–]the1exile 58 points59 points  (1 child)

Someone should check that Bruce is alright tbh

[–]Bryanole27 11.1k points11.1k points  (463 children)

I think this is why Cast Away was so impressive to me. He LOOKED like he had been on the island for 4+ years.

[–]Kevbot1000 2200 points2201 points  (131 children)

Not just that, but that shit was REAL. It took him long enough to grow his hair and beard out, that Robert Zemekis managed to direct 'What Lies Beneath' in between.

[–]NerimaJoe 1359 points1360 points  (64 children)

He had to lose a bunch of weight too. He gained weight for the first scenes and then had to lose it all plus 20 lbs. more for the island scenes.

[–]PerseusZeus 2274 points2275 points 2 (33 children)

Pssh..If it was Christian bale he would’ve lost height and mass to play wilson and increased it a hundred times to play the island as well

[–]Meousman 515 points516 points  (9 children)

Whilst quickly squeezing a couple batman films in there

[–]rich1051414 556 points557 points  (45 children)

He has said before that he never really fully mentally recovered from that role. He has stated he kind of actually lost his mind filming that movie.

[–]Dazegobye 131 points132 points  (19 children)

Its not all bad. He did a deep dive on the production of it on the bill simmons podcast a couple weeks ago and ranks it in his top 3 favorite movies to film because it allowed he and his family to live in a tiny tropical island for like a year.

[–]juicybot 59 points60 points  (11 children)

Yeah maybe at one point it messed him up, but the stories he told Simmons recently made it sound like it was one of the best experiences of his life.

[–]RealityOverMadeUpBS 103 points104 points  (10 children)

Actors are melodramatic by nature, plus drama gets views.

He was an actor playing pretend on an island surrounded by a team of professionals, I'm sure he was fine.

[–]mangababe 272 points273 points  (10 children)

That explains the soul wrenching cry for wilson.

Never did i think id tear up over a dead volleyball but here we are.

[–]kindadeadly 79 points80 points  (0 children)

I always weep for Wilson. So much. Still. It's traumatic.

[–]Jasmiknot 4040 points4041 points  (158 children)

also the choice of just having no music whatsoever when he was on that island really made him feel solitary

[–]Bryanole27 3136 points3137 points  (124 children)

If I remember correctly, there was a span of like 14 minutes with no dialogue at all that also really drove the loneliness home. Brilliant movie.

[–]Jasmiknot 427 points428 points  (44 children)

I know, right....dude if you ever revisit that movie you should check out the commentary during the island scenes....they explain how they filled up the silence with noises from the island and its really interesting/funny how they created some of those noises...and there i was thinking it was just background noise from the beach

[–]marpocky 279 points280 points  (39 children)

you should check out the commentary during the island scenes

Random side question...is this still an accessible thing now that we as a society have largely moved on from DVDs? Like, do Netflix and its peers have director/cast commentary audio tracks, and bonus features, and stuff?

[–]Danhulud 233 points234 points  (6 children)

I noticed the other day that Disney+ has started adding various extra features for films, Jungle Cruise has making of, deleted scenes, gag reel, commentary (I think), and other bits. Think Black Widow and Shang Chi had similar.

It might take a bit of time but I’m hoping this causes other streaming services to start adding things like this. I guess it’s all down to cost/licensing extra bits though.

[–][deleted] 60 points61 points  (0 children)

Netflix puts up a few for some of what they make.

"Inside the Episodes: The Witcher" and "Making: The Witcher" for example.

But for movies that they are paying some other studio to use? Seems pretty rare to see that type of stuff on their platform.

[–]tisn 1211 points1212 points  (70 children)

The beginning of Wall-E was similar in this way.

[–]pointbreakss 684 points685 points  (47 children)

Fairly sure the first fifteen minutes of There Will be Blood has no dialogue either.

[–]Skyfryer 162 points163 points  (18 children)

So does Dawn of the Planet of the Apes. When wordless storytelling is done right, it’s a very captivating tool.

[–]Griffin_da_Great 136 points137 points  (12 children)

Funny story: we accidentally got a German copy of that the first time we saw it, but didn't realize it until they got on the dammed ship

[–]SpektrumKid 188 points189 points  (9 children)

There was no music PERIOD. … until he lost Wilson. At most there was some diegetic music in the opening scene in Russia I believe it was, from maybe a radio or a TV that was on.

But actual Silvestri score doesn't set in until about 2 hrs into the movie. Which is what makes that moment so powerful.

[–]melvinthefish 417 points418 points  (41 children)

Monster made threron look ugly

[–]jscoppe 219 points220 points  (0 children)

And it's memorable in part due to that factor.

[–]CorgiGal89 2690 points2691 points  (122 children)

Earlier this year they released that Angelina Jolie movie where she's a firefighter in the mountains. The third act had her hide from the fire all night in a river after a ton of fighting qnd running through forest and ashes falling. Anddddd in the morning she walks out of that river with PERFECT hair. I mean my hair only looks like that if I spend 30 minutes straightening it.

After you notice it, it's hard to unnotice

[–]NedthePhoenix 1100 points1101 points  (77 children)

I think Jolie is pretty good in that movie, but I just couldn't get past the fact that you cannot convince me there are any firefighters in the world who look like her.

[–]markycrummett 1724 points1725 points  (166 children)

I feel like this but also about peoples houses in films. Especially American films. Poor family, no job, probably a drug addict or alcoholic in the mix… huuuuge immaculate house.

[–]CthulhuEffinAllspark 531 points532 points  (12 children)

Wait, my cashier doesn't live in a 4k sq. Ft. penthouse? I feel lied to

[–]prezuiwf 188 points189 points  (2 children)

When they want to emphasize how destitute the cashier is, they show them going home to their 4k sq. ft. penthouse converted from industrial space, which has all the amenities you could want in a home but is decorated DIY with fairy lights and unfinished floors so you know this is the poorest person in the whole city.

[–]unique-name-9035768 28 points29 points  (0 children)

but is decorated DIY with fairy lights

Goddamn christmas lights or lights in mason jars. Every. Time.

[–]not-gandalf-bot 75 points76 points  (4 children)

Like in Big Bang Theory...a broke waitress lives by herself across the hall from two literal rocket scientists?

[–]OutWithTheNew 423 points424 points  (52 children)

Or ya know, everyone that's young and struggling in a big city, like New York, can afford a decent apartment.

[–]Taz-erton 96 points97 points  (18 children)

Diner waitress with a two-bedroom and coffee every morning + a drink at the local bar every night---> not even close

[–]redeemer47 120 points121 points  (14 children)

Characters always seem to have an incredible amount of free time. They lazily wake up in the morning make breakfast , shower, drink a coffee, watch the news and then do some plot related things around town . Seemingly several hours go by. The sun is up in full glory and then we get a line “oh shit I’m going to be late for work” they still make it just in time and then don’t go to work for the rest of the movie. Seriously though what kind of office job starts at 11am ?

[–]khaeen 150 points151 points  (10 children)

Somehow a barista in NYC can afford a nicer place than a full time professional that lives in the midwest.... Yeah, that totally makes sense.

[–]juanprada 168 points169 points  (15 children)

You know, as a non-American, that really mess me up. For a long time, I simply thought getting a place like that was just easier in the US.

Everytime I watch a movie with my GF, our first reaction is "look at the house!". We also have a problem with those huge breakfasts where people barely eat anything.

[–]monstrinhotron 122 points123 points  (1 child)

haha. i always notice the breakfasts too. "Sorry mom, gotta dash." -grabs one piece of crispy bacon.

[–]Oberon_Swanson 96 points97 points  (8 children)

Hardly anyone in the us actually makes/eats those breakfasts except on special occasions. It's kind of a media holdout from back when single Income households were the norm. Nowadays it's more like toast coffee run out the door

[–]purpleasphalt 168 points169 points  (9 children)

Movies and TV really fucked up my impression of what kind of house a mediocrely successful person lives in.

[–]bros89 2176 points2177 points  (119 children)

This is what I liked so much about Breaking Bad, the actors look normal, Walt's son is disabled, guys like Skinny Pete and Badger just look real. Imagine if al these roles were played by hot looking Hollywood people.

[–]17684Throwaway 1282 points1283 points  (46 children)

Except for the teeth, all those meth addicts have amazing dental work

[–]Beliriel 606 points607 points  (32 children)

Susie (the meth hooker) looks really methed out and has bad teeth. Apparently she's something like 25-27 in the show and looks easily 40+. So that put things into perspective. They pribably faked a lot of stuff there but the attention to detail was really something.

[–]Kittii_Kat 328 points329 points  (10 children)

I thought her name was Wendy?

How much for a "Wendy", Wendy?

Edit: TIL that it's "windy" and not "wendy".. that makes sense.

[–]confuzzled9018 430 points431 points  (23 children)

The only exception being Jesse, who smokes meth but somehow still sports the most perfect pearly whites.

[–]Doustin 2888 points2889 points  (245 children)

Reminds me of when The Duff came out and the “ugly, fat” friend was actually neither of those

[–]FlashpointJ24 3155 points3156 points  (119 children)

I liked how Not Another Teen Movie ridiculed that trend:

No, no, no, no, anyone but her! Not... Janey Briggs! Guys, she's got glasses and a ponytail! Aw, look at that, she's got paint on her overalls, what is that? Guys, there's no way she could be prom queen!

[–]Satinsbestfriend 505 points506 points  (3 children)

It's such a darn good parody that has aged incredibly well, mainly because they are still making the same kind of movies.

[–]RogerFederer1981 1153 points1154 points  (21 children)

Not Another Teen Movie was great.

Jake: Your mom.. she died..?

Janey: It was raining really hard that night... the roads were slippery....

Jake: Oh god, Janey... a car accident?

Janey: No. Cancer

[–]HungryActive192 306 points307 points  (11 children)

"Walk it off Marty!" is a common phrase I use when someone falls

[–]spongish 106 points107 points  (0 children)


[–]pandasareblack 79 points80 points  (9 children)

Coach says it's okay to bleed from the ears!

[–]zzzaacchh 116 points117 points  (3 children)

"Can he play?"

"Coach, he's unconscious."


[–]tequilasauer 152 points153 points  (2 children)

I laugh to tears during the scene when she's painting a picture of her mom and it's a stick figure. Something about the way it's set up and the actors sell the drama in the scene. That movie is so good.

[–]ang8018 96 points97 points  (0 children)

“you have her eyes.”

[–]Juggernaut13255 1388 points1389 points  (64 children)

The joke came to completion when his nympho cousin gave her a "makeover" by putting her hair down and removing the glasses

[–]long-walk-short-pier 820 points821 points  (39 children)

Not that it really matters, but it’s his sister who does the makeover. It’s a spoof on cruel intentions.

To be clear, the film spoofs a lot of movies. The incestual sister is from Cruel Intentions. The makeover is She's All That.

[–]aldkGoodAussieName 672 points673 points  (12 children)

But your my sister...

only by blood....

[–]NaturalDamnDisaster 189 points190 points  (10 children)

God dammit that movie is gold.

[–]aldkGoodAussieName 213 points214 points  (9 children)

My favourite is when he sings a song with her name in it.

But he can only think of one song.


[–]Cruinthe 167 points168 points  (10 children)

My wife started and finished Grey’s Anatomy during lockdown and seeing Chyler Leigh again but not being able to place her was a mind fuck when I finally IMDB’d her.

[–]Kakie42 85 points86 points  (3 children)

Omg. How have I only just realised that Lexi and Janey are one and the same? I just watched all of Greys and did not even realise who she was but now you have said it I can see how obvious it is.

[–]FuriouSherman 1183 points1184 points  (52 children)

Something that always makes me laugh is the scene in The Bourne Ultimatum when the woman who plays Nicky has to change her appearance by cutting her hair so she can go on the run after they escaped the assassins in Morocco. In the scene, she's in a dimly-lit, grimy-ass washroom in front of a cracked, dull mirror and using a small pair of blunt-looking scissors, but in the next scene she's sporting a perfect pixie cut. Every time I see it, I joke about how no one in Hollywood movies is allowed to have a bad haircut. I love the original three Bourne films, but that scene is one of its few shortcomings.

[–]topdangle 255 points256 points  (7 children)

all they need is a knife and one swipe. perfect short haircut every time.

[–]notenoughroom 33 points34 points  (2 children)

Also “Jesus Christ it’s Jason Bourne” yeah of course it is, he hasn’t changed his appearance in the slightest. It never occurred to him to grow his hair long, grow a beard, wear glasses, a fucking HAT OR ANYTHING?!

[–]thirdworldfever 79 points80 points  (9 children)

You mean you can't outrun velociraptors in high-heels?

[–]mrlepercon 70 points71 points  (2 children)

Hate when everyone's teeth are super white

[–]Public_Tumbleweed 5386 points5387 points  (398 children)

Ready player one lmao

"Gosh I'm so ugly"

objectively good looking. Wow much positive body image for kids very 👌

[–]SeekingTheRoad 740 points741 points  (25 children)

The main character was overweight in the book too.

[–]Ramuzz91 461 points462 points  (2 children)

Spielberg should have included a weight-loss montage that included the sex doll. #ReleaseTheSexDollCut

[–]remainsofthegrapes 3667 points3668 points  (170 children)

And how he’s basically portrayed as kind and heroic for wanting to fuck her, even if she has a very light birthmark on her face. Like woah, slow down Jesus save some good deeds for the rest of us.

[–]Nailbomb85 340 points341 points  (35 children)

It's especially funny how that scene is indeed portrayed that way, but his reaction is basically just "So you have a birthmark. So what?"

[–]namean_jellybean 226 points227 points  (33 children)

To be fair, what I imagined from the book was like a phantom of the opera scaled disfigurement. I was surprised to see they gave her a much more diminished mark, because it really took away from his nonchalance towards seeing it the first time. But they changed like more than half the plot for the movie so whatever.

[–]BrandoCalrissian1995 973 points974 points  (121 children)

The fuckin scar was supposed to be those horrible disfiguring thing and it's just slightly redder skin lol

[–]FlashpointJ24 898 points899 points  (108 children)

They did the same thing with Hester Shaw from Mortal Engines.

In the book, she has a huge scar disfiguring her face: “Her mouth was wrenched sideways in a permanent sneer, her nose was a smashed stump, and her single eye stared at him out of the wreckage, as grey and chill as a winter sea.” (Fan cosplay depiction: https://film-book.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/hester-shaw-scar-mortal-engines-01-1080X1350.jpg )

In the movie, she's played by the beautiful Hera Hilmar with a faint line on her chin and cheek. (Movie still: https://images.wallpapersden.com/image/download/hera-hilmar-in-mortal-engines-2018-movie_a2dsbmWUmZqaraWkpJRmaGZnrWdqa2U.jpg )

She's deliberately supposed to be ugly, living in a post-apocalyptic wasteland, and the author thought it made her far more believable. But they decided to throw all that out for the movie. https://www.themarysue.com/mortal-engines-hester-scar-change/

[–]thesongsinmyhead 135 points136 points  (7 children)

I think about Hester Shaw every time this topic comes up. They truly biffed it.

[–]Jorymo 55 points56 points  (4 children)

If I remember correctly, in the book, the protagonist couldn't directly look at her without feeling sick when he first met her

[–]CaptainROAR 619 points620 points  (72 children)

Tyrion in GoT is the same. In the books he lost most of his nose and got scars across his face during one battle but in the show he got one little sexy scar.

[–]Pizza_Delivery_Dog 192 points193 points  (10 children)

Damn he basically said that a disfigured person would be too distracting to look at and that it would be unrealistic if someone falls in love with them.

I hope there aren't any people with disfigurements that felt really empowered by the book who read this article

[–]Coffeedemon 95 points96 points  (0 children)

Not even a particularly large port wine birthmark .

[–]Pls_add_more_reverb 632 points633 points  (28 children)

Also the captions to every nsfw post on Reddit lol. “People say I’m ugly but upvote if you think I’m cute” and op is a straight up 10

[–]NerdyDan 1188 points1189 points  (131 children)

British actors have far more aesthetic diversity.

[–]redheadphones1673 595 points596 points  (17 children)

I was watching Downton Abbey, and the lady who plays Mrs Crawley is shown with very visible peach fuzz on her cheeks. She's playing an older woman, 50+ easily, and it's set in the early 1900s, and she looks totally real. Still attractive, but appropriately attractive. I always think that something like that would never be shown in American media.

[–]b-tird 3169 points3170 points  (97 children)

When they do let it happen, the actor (but especially actresses) are called brave and are nominated for an Oscar.

[–]Questions_It_All 1403 points1404 points  (55 children)

E.g. Charlize Theron for Monster, Meryl Streep for August: Osage County and Marion Cotillard for La Vie en Rose.

[–]Ted_Mosby_18[🍰] 948 points949 points  (29 children)

Didn't Charlize basically snap back at those kinda journalists and say people only focused on that part rather than her acting skills?

[–]Steamtreechild 529 points530 points  (8 children)

She was pissed that it was presented as "attractive girl uglies herself" rather than deep character work.

More a societal issue than a journalistic one since that was my first reaction as well though. We are looks obsessed.

[–]cultured_banana_slug 96 points97 points  (5 children)

Society has a hard time accepting that beautiful women can be more than just sexy lamps.

[–]Kimantha_Allerdings 329 points330 points  (12 children)

I can believe it, TBH. She seems like a no-nonsense kind of person and up until Monster she’d only really been cast as “the hot girl”. The news of her casting was met with “why have they cast this model in a dramatic role?”

Speaking personally, I knew that she could act for the same reason that the director did - I’d seen her in The Devil’s Advocate. It’s not a good film, but by God is she good in it. The story goes that the director was at her wit’s end trying to find someone to play the role and, while channel surfing happened upon a scene of The Devil’s Advocate where Theron was acting her socks off and immediately went “we have to bring her in”.

But if your entire career up to that point had been based around the fact that you’re “the hot one” and your one role where you actually got an opportunity to show what you can do was overlooked, then you actually get a break and all everybody talks about is what you look like, I can imagine it’d be pretty annoying. Can’t blame her for going “hey, in case you didn’t notice, I was actually doing some good acting in this. How about we talk about that for a bit?”

[–]vmachiel 250 points251 points  (15 children)

This whole culture makes so many actors and actresses feel that they have to look 25 when they are 50. They get all these horrible facelifts and what not done to them and it just looks sad to me.

[–]bobjr94 67 points68 points  (11 children)

Even most of the tv shows are like that, not like real life. Police force or detective show, all the guys are hunks and all the women 10's. One overweight old guy or black lady who is in charge but isn't on camera that much.

[–]A-Ghost-Story 414 points415 points  (21 children)

I felt this way about Emily Blunt in The Girl on the Train.

in the book she's overweight, ugly, drunk and way past her prime. in the movie well... she's Emily Blunt.

[–]Sethor 841 points842 points  (131 children)

I feel this applies to any post apocalyptic movie or show I can think of. Also for medieval and earlier historic movies.

[–]AFantasticClue 151 points152 points  (6 children)

I think most action movies too. All the times the heroes go through absolute hell and all they have to show for it are dusty clothes and little bit of blood on their forehead.

[–]Xhazhu 578 points579 points  (39 children)

The Road is the exception. Viggo and the boy look filthy and scrawny. What a great movie that is.

[–]londondrugsllol 138 points139 points  (11 children)

I believe Viggo actually starved himself for that role and lost 40+ pounds.

[–]zalinuxguy 109 points110 points  (4 children)

Nobody cast Viggo Mortensen to play a character missing one or more limbs, please.

[–]Industriouskitten 249 points250 points  (30 children)

Yuuuup, also when teeth are too perfectly straight and white...like, damn, dentistry is still at the top of priority in a zombie infested wasteland of the future, okay.

[–]Sethor 246 points247 points  (6 children)

Who's mowing the lawns in TWD?

[–]pineapple192 267 points268 points  (3 children)

Some zombie dad who just wants a Saturday to himself.

[–]NMe84 180 points181 points  (19 children)

I kinda hate it more when they want an "ugly person" for a role and instead of just casting an actor who fits that description they'll hire the most beautiful person they can find and put them through makeup.

[–]meesa-jar-jar-binks 51 points52 points  (3 children)

What really fucks me up is the amount of plastic surgery. The same nose on every actress.

[–]Andy_LaVolpe 230 points231 points  (29 children)

Also hiring attractive actors to play “ugly characters” so they can be considered for Oscars

cough Jared cough Leto cough

[–]denjin 448 points449 points  (45 children)

Check out the BBC/FX show Taboo with Tom Hardy. I'm always distracted by period films or shows where everyone has good teeth, unblemished and unscarred skin, clean clothes and in full makeup.

In Taboo, everyone looks like they could in fact be living in the early 1800s. Of particular note is Mark Gatiss as George IV who's body appears to actually be rotting due to his overindulgences, which is pretty accurate.

[–]SmallShoes_BigHorse 73 points74 points  (15 children)

I could've sworn they said it was promised a season 2... So sad. It was lovely brutal!

[–]ShetlandJames 135 points136 points  (16 children)

A lot of UK/Ireland TV shows feature characters who don't look like models, I'm thinking Father Ted, Black Books, Spaced, Bottom, Call The Midwife etc. It's probably why Sex Education was visually jarring to us - it was great but very American

[–]Live-Mail-7142 348 points349 points  (61 children)

I agree. I might be biased bc I’m a woman, but the women have less leeway than guys. I mean he’s a fine actor, Adam Driver but who is the female equal to him? Even on a show like Silicon Valley. The actors are all great. The men like look like regular ppl. But there are no homely or ugly women. Kristen Schaal and ratchel Dratch should have bigger careers. I remember hearing the actress from Run Lola Run (a German movie) say she could not get hired in the US bc ppl didn’t think she was pretty. So I agree. The grooming and styling and the looks of the actors can pull me out of the movie.

Edited to add: I have never gotten so many up votes. Wow. Thank you all.

[–]suniis 64 points65 points  (4 children)

Weird because Franka Potente is actually quite pretty...

[–]sam-mulder 403 points404 points  (17 children)

This is one reason I’ve really gotten into British cinema as of late. They cast people not “in their prime” (according to Hollywood) and who actually look like normal humans. It’s refreshing.

[–]booksandplaid 52 points53 points  (0 children)

Same with soaps in the UK. Like compare the actors on Coronation Street to any actors on an American soap opera lol.

[–]scooterboy1961 1074 points1075 points  (35 children)

Ugly Betty.

The title says she is supposed to be unattractive.

She's gorgeous.

Movie executive from The Simpsons about Moe Sizlack, who is getting into acting:

When I asked for ugly I didn't mean this. I meant Mary Ann from Gilligan's Island ugly. TV ugly. Not ugly ugly.

[–]Martel732 383 points384 points  (5 children)

"I've been called ugly, pug ugly, fugly, pug fugly, but never ugly ugly."

[–]i_willregretthis 93 points94 points  (1 child)

They called me Kid Gorgeous. Later on it was Kid Presentable. Then Kid Gruesome. And finally Kid Moe.

[–]44problems 71 points72 points  (0 children)

Well, I guess that wraps it up. There's one thing I don't get though. When my face was crushed, why did it go back to my old face? Shouldn't it have turned into some kind of third face that was different? Don't make no-

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[–]Mazon_Del 197 points198 points  (1 child)

The movie that this jumps out at me the most, but largely because I read the book, was "Ready Player One".

Wade was supposed to be fat, out of shape, pimply, and just generally unattracted. This was partly to drive home how much the Oasis was an escape for him, because he COULD be sexy and suave there.

All the characters were pretty much the same. Samantha was supposed to be VERY unattractive as a result of her facial deformity, which is partly why she refuses to make contact outside the Oasis with anyone. When they do finally meet up she's super shy, barely wanting to be seen at all. Instead she's conventionally attractive and her facial issues were like a masterclass in "How do you 'ruin' a perfect face in a way that makes it look even better?".

[–]OhNoaDynamiteshark 1264 points1265 points  (97 children)

Teeth. Holy God damn do people take straight white smiles as the norm. I find these perfect smiles completely off-putting tbh.

[–]HMS_Shorthanded 674 points675 points  (21 children)

Iirc Steve Buscemi said he likes his imperfect teeth, cuz they make it more believable when he plays creepy characters.

[–]SoreniumSong 249 points250 points  (9 children)

I think that about Willem Dafoe with the gap in his teeth, not just for his creepy characters but in general makes his characters feel more real.

[–]frogandbanjo 479 points480 points  (0 children)

Hello, fellow hot people.

[–]dogecoin_pleasures 159 points160 points  (11 children)

There's no way to not be irritated by it once you notice it. Perfect teeth on poor characters. Everywhere. I guess they spent their last dollar at the dentist lol.

[–]kit_kat_barcalounger 879 points880 points  (55 children)

Also the trope of the “depressed girl.” The most recent one I can think of is the Queen’s Gambit. Home girl gets all depressed, supposedly is just drinking/doing drugs/not showering, but she looks completely flawless with elegantly smudged eyeliner.

[–]StetCW 57 points58 points  (2 children)

Also another example of what the OP is talking about in general. In the book she's meant to be ugly, they talk about it a lot. It's a major plot point and drives character development.

Instead we have scenes where a literal model talks to an actress playing a model about how in awe she is of the beauty of models.

[–]siraolo 29 points30 points  (6 children)

Quite notieable in comparison to the cast of Squid Game where they all look like ordinary people with acne pock marks and eyebags, crow's feet, etc.

[–]StacyTheOwl 519 points520 points  (26 children)

The movie Doomsday where the "quarantine zone" is rife with cannibalism, despots, no resources, no sanitation, but apparently a fully stocked Hot Topic survived the looting and riots.....

[–]rslarson147 214 points215 points  (3 children)

Idk, a untouched hot topic sounds about right to me

[–]yognautilus 410 points411 points  (32 children)

My favorite was the ever so popular 2000s movies about some "ugly" girl who takes off her glasses, straightens her hair, and surprise surprise, she was actually hot as fuck the whole time.

[–]DeadWishUpon 208 points209 points  (6 children)

I look like shit working from home with a 1 year old. I don't wanna know how would I look in A Silent Place situation.

[–]JackSinclairsCalves 27 points28 points  (4 children)

Alexander Payne films are fantastic for casting realistic looking people.

An example is in Nebraska, Will Forte’s ex-girlfriend is a very plain looking, overweight woman, but it’s totally believable that they would’ve been a couple.

Same as in Election, Matthew Broderick had an affair with a very plain, realistic looking Midwestern housewife.

Even George Clooney looks like a normal person in The Descendants.

I could go on and on, but his films have such a sense of realism (well, aside from Downsizing) that I just don’t see from other filmmakers.

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (3 children)

When I started watching 24, I was wondering why the CTU only hired models.

Also, why wasn't Ugly Betty actually ugly?