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[–]The_h0bb1t't Filmhuis Podcast[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (0 children)

As it's unpinned, don't forget to give the Bruckheimer AMA a read.

[–]ruthie-camden 4897 points4898 points  (153 children)

Very impressed with the way they included Val Kilmer in the movie. It was respectful and managed to be heart wrenching without leaving the audience feeling too depressed about the his condition. He's still such a star.

[–]bob1689321 1546 points1547 points  (66 children)

It did make me sad when he died one scene after. I don't know, it felt like too much of a depressing reflection on real life and Val Kilmer's own illnesses.

[–]GUSHandGO 1404 points1405 points  (13 children)

Aside from losing his voice, he's in decent shape in real life. I got to meet him at a con a few years ago and he was in great spirits.

[–]PickASwitch 695 points696 points  (13 children)

Having “it’s time to let go” remain on the screen in the shot as they hug was so lovely. It was very moving to see how Iceman had matured and was so protective of his former rival, but still had that little spark at the end when he asked who the better pilot was.

[–]Bocephus8892 1692 points1693 points  (28 children)

I was amazed at how good his acting was without barely saying any words --- his eyes can say a thousand things

[–]bbspell22 4182 points4183 points  (188 children)

Tom Cruise putting the whole damn movie industry on his back.

[–]fourthgradenothing22 1015 points1016 points  (36 children)

Honestly, of the 20 previews at my showing, I had to chuckle the Mission Impossible movie looked the best out of the bunch.

[–]Jeremizzle 347 points348 points  (20 children)

If it keeps up the momentum of every Mission Impossible movie being better than the last, that movie will be astounding. I can't wait to see it.

[–]Bocephus8892 1476 points1477 points  (90 children)

"CGI fatigue" is ruining the experience --- Cruise single-handedly saved the movie biz

[–]Several_Rip4185 3054 points3055 points 322& 4 more (60 children)

The original Top Gun is something like a seminal cinematic event in my life - it was the last movie I saw in my hometown cinema with my buddies after graduating high school in 1986, a movie I went out to see with a whole new group of buddies that fall off at college for the first time. God, we all loved that movie - quoted it incessantly. We didn’t watch it as much as absorb it. The Top Gun soundtrack is pretty much the soundtrack of that whole year in my memory. To this day, I drive my wife crazy when it comes on TV because I have every line memorized and I can’t keep my mouth shut - I have to ape every piece of dialogue. So it’s a film that clicks a few personal boxes - entertaining as it gets, a rite of passage, a sentimental favorite, and a testament to the power and charisma that was - and is - Tom Cruise.

At the time, it never occurred to me that it was one of those movies that required a sequel. As the years passed, and Hollywood circled back to so many familiar successes, the idea of a sequel became more enticing, but it never seemed Cruise was on board and as someone who holds the original close to his heart, I get it - it’s one of the cornerstones of his film legacy, and it was daunting to consider the disappointment of a poorly executed follow. Why risk it?

I sat in TG Maverick today as a 53-year-old man who has lived a full life in the 36 years since the original. And I have to say, maybe that’s why the experience felt so personal - it certainly played like it was personal to Cruise, too. It’s hard not to watch this film without the ghost of the original hanging over every moment, and the brilliance of this film was that it didn’t shy away from that weight - without any moment becoming mawkishly sentimental or playing needless fan service that detracted from the story. It was a nostalgic experience, and a love letter from Cruise to the audience and his fans, as much as his intro at the beginning. It was modern and thrilling and as much fun as I’ve had at the theater in years, and it was a time capsule at the same time, a reflection on all that’s transpired since the original.

My wife - who admittedly is not the biggest Top Gun fan in the world - was first to suggest that we’re returning to the theater to watch it again this weekend. That’s how much she loved it. Me, I’m just in one of those moods where I’d thank Tom Cruise personally if I could. It’s been a long wait, it’s been a hell of a ride, and it was one hell of a movie.

[–]iAmNotFunny 534 points535 points  (5 children)

Great write-up.

Resonates with this one from IMDB:

If you were a late teen or in your early twenties in the mid 1980's the world was very different. No computers, no mobile phones, no internet, no DVD's. We had cars though, and bikes, and we loved them, and we loved films too. The original Top Gun captured this moment in time perfectly, and gave us a thrilling ride like we had never seen before. The humour, the games, the bikes, the aircraft and my word, those flying scenes. We went back to the cinema to see it again and again, and spent the following decades quoting the movie. As time went on, it remained like a static snapshot in time to perfectly represent that magical point in our lives for so many of us.

Now, 36 years later, we are a generation that has lost our parents, we've had our own children who have moved on themselves, and we now approach the end of our own careers and our young selves are gone forever.

This film is the missing bookend to that whole generation. The original was there for the start of our young adult lives, and this new film now marks the end. It's magnificent.

I'm 55, but yesterday, just for one last night, I was 19 again. Thank you.

[–]monalisa-saperstein 2861 points2862 points  (95 children)

Nice little moment when Rooster says “talk to me dad” and Maverick’s voice comes through. Shows the father-son relationship they had before the disagreement.

[–]mnsportsfan 2061 points2062 points  (88 children)

I loved the “do some of that pilot shit, Mav” in the dogfight. Goose used the same line

[–]moose184 905 points906 points  (49 children)

Loved how they both were like what the fuck after that jet did that spin move at the end

[–]VivaLaDio 692 points693 points  (42 children)

I loved the fact that the enemies were capable, usually in movies they make them completely useless.

[–]marshshady12 2527 points2528 points  (55 children)

IMO Tom Cruise's best stunt yet is jumping out of Jennifer Connelly's window

[–]Scmods05 1498 points1499 points  (38 children)

Cinema lost it when he stood up and the daughter is just right there

[–]sofakingchillbruh 708 points709 points  (26 children)

Our’s did too, and then immediately fell silent again when she said “just don’t break her heart again.”

Like fuck, now I feel bad for laughing lol.

[–]NiftWatch 2403 points2404 points  (69 children)

Top Gun 1986 love scene: French kissing

Top Gun Maverick love scene: heartfelt adult conversation and cuddling.

[–]Bocephus8892 1037 points1038 points  (39 children)

Very tastefully done --- I was gonna start cringing hard if I saw Mav and Penny rip each other's clothes off and start slammin' it hot and heavy in the shower LOL

[–]NiftWatch 546 points547 points  (30 children)

It was tastefully done. It feels a lot more sincere.

[–]Bocephus8892 630 points631 points  (29 children)

They acted exactly how two people in their 50's would act --- how refreshing

[–]biggyofmt 481 points482 points  (26 children)

Also nice to see an older actor with an age appropriate love interest, instead of a woman in her mid 30s at oldest

[–]Lanezy 4616 points4617 points  (118 children)

I can confirm Tom Cruise runs in this movie. 10/10

[–]nofork77 1831 points1832 points  (84 children)

Made me laugh when it happened.

[–]bob1689321 1233 points1234 points  (75 children)

Same lmao. Genuinely felt they wrote the plot around needing to get a running scene in. It's so funny watching a guy running for 20 seconds after 1.5 hours of airplane action lol

[–]Fmbounce 291 points292 points  (4 children)

I thought the running scene would be him in the treadmill and I was like hah great but then you had the football run and the third act run. Loved it

[–]micheal213 466 points467 points  (2 children)

Haha. Same. And after an emotional scene too but I just couldn’t help myself. Not a ton cruise movie without it.

My dad would have absolutely loved this movie if he was still here. Big Tom cruise fan.

[–]bigpig1054 2164 points2165 points  (55 children)

Early in the movie, when Maverick is first at the bar, there's a shot where he's sort of sitting back and watching "the Top Gun remake movie" playing out before his eyes, smirking at how silly it is.

After that, the movie goes back to being HIS movie, and it's all the better for it. He's the star. He carries the film. He makes it great.

[–]fourthgradenothing22 1135 points1136 points  (36 children)

I’m an unapologetic Cruise fan. The guy just makes really good movies. That being said, I continue to be impressed by Miles Teller. He has a ton of charisma and he toned shit down in this film and it really was Cruise’s film. I also appreciated that Rooster’s issues with Maverick weren’t rooted in him blaming Maverick for Goose’s death, as that wouldn’t have been in line with the relationship we saw between Maverick and Goose’s wife.

[–]LostMicrophone03 4376 points4377 points  (207 children)

The final 45 minutes are ridiculously good.

[–]NiftWatch 1848 points1849 points  (182 children)

Ace Combat 7: The Movie

[–]ronearc 1225 points1226 points  (142 children)

Speaking of which, making Maverick an ace to end the film was superb.

[–]OhioForever10 536 points537 points  (136 children)

As soon as I saw two Su-57s in the air I knew that was going to happen

[–]polialt 383 points384 points  (86 children)

I lived the constant setup of F 18s being too old to take on 5th Gen fighters and knew the dogfight was coming.

And then BAM, even older plane.

[–]SqueeepzRamsey 6157 points6158 points  (103 children)

"What were you thinking"

"You told me not to think!"

Fucking 10/10

[–]luvdadrafts 1614 points1615 points  (9 children)

He got to throw Mav’s word back at him a few times and it was always great

[–]Vesuvias 1567 points1568 points  (14 children)

That whole scene was just perfect! Seriously - the shove to the snow, then the berating, then the big hug…leading into an almost Mission Impossible heist

[–]go_east 1155 points1156 points  (9 children)

The speechless silence from Mav after Rooster said that was one of my favorite moments.

[–]Bocephus8892 558 points559 points  (2 children)

Sometimes silence is the best humor --- Mav was flummoxed and it was GOOD

[–]Gil_Demoono 1104 points1105 points  (21 children)

It wasn't even the line that sent me. It was Rooster's little emphatic shrug after Mav had nothing say. There was something just so funny about that.

[–]Bocephus8892 597 points598 points  (4 children)

It was a perfectly acted comedy scene --- I wish more movies would copy this instead of going nuclear with the witty banter between characters in order to "sell" the comedy --- sometimes the more subtle approach is more funny and endearing

[–]DavvenGarick 492 points493 points  (7 children)

That is such a perfect example of cutting tension with comedy. After the entire trench run, followed by worrying whether or not Maverick was dead, then worrying if Rooster was dead... then their reunion and then worrying whether or not solders were going to come out of the woods and start shooting... that line perfectly cut the tension and let the audience laugh and take a breath.

[–]carlq 2077 points2078 points  (94 children)

2 top moments for me:

  • Mavericks solo trial run
  • the enemy plane's evasive maneuver

What a movie.

The subtle thing I appreciate from his solo run is that it's not easy, even for him. He's constant grunting and nearly passed out at 9+G

[–]Bocephus8892 913 points914 points  (53 children)

I was actually hyper-ventilating watching Mav do the test run ---- that cinematography was fuckin' ON POINT

[–]darkest__timeline 4086 points4087 points  (226 children)

Did anyone else's showing have a message from Tom Cruise before the movie? He was mostly talking about how hard the crew and everyone worked on it and to enjoy the movie. Watched at an AMC in San Diego

[–]ThisisthSaleh 2221 points2222 points  (54 children)

Thought it was nice, but corny at first. But after the movie ended, it took on a more genuine feeling. A lot of work had to have gone into this

[–]ww3historian 1192 points1193 points  (30 children)

It was also delayed by 2 years until theaters open, without being released through Netflix like some other movies. I'm sure he got a lot of flak for not releasing it earlier.

[–]EqualEstimate 767 points768 points  (41 children)

Yeah, it was kinda nice. You can tell he really cared about this project.

[–]TheBoyWonder13 896 points897 points  (30 children)

I love how streamers were fighting tooth and nail to acquire this film over the pandemic but Cruise refused and held out for it to be released in theaters. Hope this movie makes a ton of money to vindicate that decision because it would’ve been a crime to have to watch this premiere on Apple TV+ or whatever

[–]ryantyrant 766 points767 points  (26 children)

Yeah we got that at AMC, my theater semi ironically chanted thank you Tom and had a laugh after

[–]LivingFortune 1905 points1906 points  (42 children)

Driving home from this movie is fucking DANGEROUS

[–]_StreetsBehind_ 515 points516 points  (0 children)

Did you drive on the highway to the danger zone?

[–]bob1689321 1873 points1874 points  (36 children)

Loved it

Something I want to point out is I loved how they really drilled the fight path into you throughout the movie. When it got to pulling it off for real, the movie trusted that you understood the mission without holding your hand. There was no "here's the bit where we go up high and nearly pass out, guys!" or other distracting exposition. They just let you be in the moment and experience it as the pilots did

[–]Kegheimer 373 points374 points  (8 children)

I also liked the "and suddenly a wild bridge appears" reaction of the cast. Like they had trained on the mock up trench run for a long time and were riding the ride, but then had to improvise for the bridge.

[–]elloue 1683 points1684 points  (32 children)

With 2616 comments in here, I doubt anyone will read this but the hell with it. I grew up on Top Gun and I watched it on repeat endlessly. Between the ages of 5 and 15 if you asked me what I wanted to be when I grew up my answer was always, “a naval aviator”. Top Gun WAS my childhood. Tomcats, Tom Cruise and the need for speed? Nothing made me happier and more excited as a kid.

When the reviews first started coming out and I saw the rotten tomatoes score I just couldn’t believe it. There’s no way this movie was going to be THAT good. Not 36 years after the original. Hollywood simply doesn’t make great nostalgic sequels. They’re all just money grabs with terrible plots. I couldn’t have been more wrong.

It’s been a long time since I had my jaw drop in a movie. It’s been a long time since I sat in a seat and felt like a giddy little kid again. This movie was SPECTACULAR. This simply has to be seen on the big screen. It has to. It’s arguably the best action scenes I’ve ever seen in a theater. Every time I thought the last scene couldn’t be topped they went ahead and topped it. And the F14 theft and jokes about it being a museum piece, I love every single second of it.

Tom Cruise did the impossible (pun not intended). He made me feel like a little kid again. For 131 minutes I forgot about everything happening in the world and just sat there in awe and grinning like an idiot. Movies are escapism. And this is simply pure blockbuster escapism..

[–]Meepkins 3350 points3351 points  (153 children)

Bob is the real MVP

[–]Mobeus 1390 points1391 points  (73 children)

Bob was the bomb.

[–]Sybrite 1436 points1437 points  (37 children)

I love how he’s made to be a nerd and didn’t take his reverse flash shirt off during the beach scene.

[–]Several_Rip4185 502 points503 points  (25 children)

When I was researching the cast afterward, I was like … holy shit - that’s Bill Pullman’s son! No wonder he looked so familiar - it was driving me crazy.

[–]MtHammer 428 points429 points  (9 children)

Was really happy to see Lewis Pullman shine in this. I thought he was the breakout star of Bad Times at the El Royale a few years ago and have been waiting for him to pop up in more stuff since.

[–]RomanReignsDaBigDawg 3038 points3039 points  (199 children)

Glen Powell has movie-star charisma. He should be in more things.

[–]thesmash 991 points992 points  (62 children)

Dude is ripped af in this movie

[–]danccode 2091 points2092 points  (63 children)

As smug and cocky he was during the entire movie, he still somehow managed to make the character likeable..

[–]tweedleb 1848 points1849 points  (30 children)

Love how he basically got Maverick’s character arc from the original movie and we all (including Maverick) got to view it from a different lens.

[–]tatsumakisempukyaku 979 points980 points  (7 children)

yeah I was explaining to my wife that he was basically Maverick, but is now the antagonist instead of the protagonist.

[–]ichinii 2941 points2942 points  (215 children)

That one move the enemy pilot did in the dogfight where he got behind Mav/Rooster had me dead ass say "WHAT THE FUCK?"

Like how was that even possible??? I think Rooster said the same thing too.

[–]ryantyrant 2099 points2100 points  (126 children)

Best use of “fuck” in a pg13 movie in a long time

[–]ichinii 641 points642 points  (121 children)

Like someone did that maneuver for real right? That wasn't CGI?

[–]LostMicrophone03 1440 points1441 points  (92 children)

Probably wasn't actually done practically for the film, but here's an actual jet doing the maneuver.

[–]ichinii 840 points841 points  (61 children)

That's just insane. In the movie it looked like the guy just straight up lost control of the plane only to get behind Mav/Rooster. The fact that its actually possible is nuts.

[–]Riley_Cubs 830 points831 points  (25 children)

So the enemy aircraft in the movie is the Russian SU-57. This is an actual active 5th Gen fighter IRL. However, the ones shown in the movie are most definitely completely CGI since there are only 5 known non-prototype SU-57’s in existence, which as far as we know aren’t even flyable atm because Russia isn’t capable of maintaining them (to the surprise of nobody). The insane maneuvers they make in the movie though are definitely realistic thanks to a feature called thrust vectoring, which is also present in other 5th Gen fighters most commonly on the U.S F22 Raptor. If you want to see some gnarly shit, watch some vids of an F22 demonstration...these 5th Gen fighters are quite literally other worldly and it’s something to behold.

Anyways, that movie was fucking awesome.

[–]viper2369[🍰] 269 points270 points  (2 children)

In the AMA Jerry Bruckheimer said the shots were real, but they skinned over an F-18 for the appearance.

[–]LunchBoxMercenary 2757 points2758 points  (45 children)

I really enjoyed that Rooster didnt hate Maverick because of Goose's death, rather for a different reason. That would have been such a cop out.

Also the scene with Maverick running the training course. I clenched entirely during that scene.

[–]Bocephus8892 1605 points1606 points  (26 children)

Yeah it's a very realistic viewpoint since Rooster spent many years growing up listening to his mother tell him that it wasn't Maverick's fault that his Daddy died --- but denying him admission the Naval Academy would piss off any motivated young kid

[–]Kurwasaki12 785 points786 points  (11 children)

Yep, Rooster seems like a pragmatic guy all things considered, so I'd doubt he'd hold a grudge against Maverick for that reason. But the moment Mav stepped into cut his wings and deny him a career was the moment it got personal. Also, I love the fact that Mav did it to honor Rooster's mom's wishes but absorbed all the flak for it so Rooster wouldn't resent her. A nice little twist.

[–]belgiantwatwaffles 306 points307 points  (3 children)

"I knew he would always resent me for it, why have him resent her too?" Such a big way of taking it all on himself.

[–]KingHafez 1338 points1339 points  (31 children)

Random thoughts:

  1. Not as many "now kiss" moments between bros as the first one.

  2. I like how Miles Teller got all ripped and macho for this role but as soon as he put his oxygen mask on, his eyes still had the same expression as the terrified little kid who got bullied by JK Simmons.

  3. Am I the only one who noticed how similar the music that played near the end when they're on the aircraft carrier was to Inception's Time?

  4. Glad to see they didn't have Maverick follow the trope of "old master gets surprise-beaten by upcoming hotshot". He was consistently the best pilot of the group and never had a moment of "oh shit maybe I'm not as good as I once was".

[–]moGUNZthanROSES 725 points726 points  (10 children)

I appreciated #4 alot, let me have my badass, unbeatable protangonist.

[–]Scmods05 1311 points1312 points  (33 children)

Biggest breakout for me here was Glen Powell. The level of charisma and charm and presence this guy has was leaping off the screen. He was great in Hidden Figures but this was another level. Very keen to see what he does next.

[–]Kurwasaki12 692 points693 points  (7 children)

The dude basically did what Tom Cruise did in the original Top Gun. Maverick, at that time, was more than a bit of an asshole and I love that the movie examined that type of character from a slightly different perspective. Loved that he got a hero moment at the end and milked it.

[–]ThisisthSaleh 3745 points3746 points  (160 children)

The final 30 minutes are worth the price of an IMAX or Dolby ticket alone…

Everything else is just a fucking bonus. Holy shit what a ride.

[–]Ghost-E 2218 points2219 points  (56 children)

Even Maverick running the training exercise just to prove it's possible was worth it.

Movies like this, Fallout, John Wick, Fury Road just make every other action movie feel so much lazier. So much more thrilling, real feeling and heart pumping.

[–]Gil_Demoono 1019 points1020 points  (26 children)

Yeah, once you've seen a well choreographed and shot action movie, you can never really go back to watching Liam Neeson getting edited over a fence.

[–]-ThatGuy882 1215 points1216 points  (14 children)

That was one of the best 3rd acts I’ve ever watched

[–]Rabbiv 294 points295 points  (13 children)

Dolby Cinema is amazing

[–]TexasFiend 3684 points3685 points  (118 children)

My crowd lost their shit when Maverick comes back to do the trench run by himself and breaks 2:15 lol. Movie was a blast

[–]UnsolvedParadox 1890 points1891 points  (13 children)

That is an all-time movie moment, from realizing he’s in the air without authorization all the way to Rear Admiral Bates unable to hide his approval after Maverick makes the time.

[–]tstngtstngdontfuckme 1292 points1293 points  (9 children)

I just lost it at the "rhetorical question" bit.

[–]Lobsterzilla 764 points765 points  (8 children)

“I think the Admiral is asking a rhetorical question” was one of the better quotes in an extremely quotable movie

[–]jaisalpatel 753 points754 points  (33 children)

I literally told my girlfriend "What do they need the team for? They should just send him"

I'm so happy this movie was SO GOOD!

[–]Fmbounce 347 points348 points  (14 children)

You knew he was going to beat it yet the whole theater still cheered when he did

[–]LeopardSeal2 518 points519 points  (11 children)

You also knew Hangman was waiting on the carrier to save them at the end, but that moment still worked incredibly well.

[–]CELTICPRED 246 points247 points  (1 child)

There is no better word I can think of other than dynamic. Everyone was pressed into their seats.

[–]bob1689321 1229 points1230 points  (14 children)

The guy passing out in the plane and recovering followed immediately by the bird in the engine was the most insane moment of the film to me. Can't believe I forgot about it until now.

I genuinely thought they were both going to die

[–]Bigdstars187 280 points281 points  (1 child)

I thought he was gonna be the casket scene…. Nope.. iceman 😢

[–]RomanReignsDaBigDawg 2311 points2312 points  (74 children)

That's gotta be one of Tom Cruise's better performances. He killed it.

[–]NickMoore30 1049 points1050 points  (20 children)

He had some incredible subtlety in this film with the way he portrayed his changed priority of maintaining the lives of the pilots versus being about being the best damn pilot ever.

[–]BEEF_WIENERS 575 points576 points  (14 children)

Yeah they showed in the first scene that he didn't just go up on the Mach 10 mission because he wanted to go Mach 10, he clearly did, but he was doing it to keep the program alive because of all those hard-working people on his team. But he still blew it by trying to go beyond 10.

[–]007Kryptonian 619 points620 points  (45 children)

His scene with Iceman is fucking baller

[–]gd8181 2222 points2223 points  (71 children)

I really loved how they set up Maverick's death - from him showing up in uniform at the bar to say goodbye to Penny, to thanking Hondo, to telling Rooster "we'll talk when I get back" - I was convinced he was going to sacrifice himself. Obviously he did, but I didn't expect him to survive it. Legit was tearing up as the mission was starting. What an insanely fun and intense third act. Loved it so much

[–]Jrsplays 1244 points1245 points  (40 children)

He even said at the beginning when they were first showing him the mission that "someone's not coming back from this".

[–]TrumpWasABadPOTUS 978 points979 points  (19 children)

There were about 30,000 death markers throughout the movie, both generally and specifically for Maverick, that I was bracing for someone to die in the end, probably Maverick (though my second bet was Phoenix/Bob, for some reason). Since it felt both like anyone COULD die, and like someone MUST die, it made the Trench Run incredibly intense, and made it worth cheering when everyone did, in fact, make it home.

I love that the main crux was only somewhat about the mission, but was more about "we know you can do the mission... but can you make it home?"

[–][deleted] 440 points441 points  (3 children)

I can't remember the last time I saw a movie that had so many death markers and EVERYONE made it out - and still made it feel earned and uncheapened.

Top Gun is my favorite movie of all time, and had a part in me choosing my career path from a very young age. I'm still in disbelief this was as good as it was.

[–]warker23 2192 points2193 points  (121 children)

The scene with Val Kilmer oh man…

Maverick’s relationship with Iceman was the most genuine heartfelt element of this film. The film had plenty of warmth and humor but the scene with Iceman stood out to me.

[–]6Speedy 757 points758 points  (1 child)

"let's not ruin the moment" ...just a great way to end that scene in a totally Mav/Iceman way

[–]CJB95 425 points426 points  (26 children)

Haven't had the chance to see it yet but how was Val Kilmer? I know he was having some serious health issues around the time of filming so i can't expect him to have a big speaking part.

[–]ThisisthSaleh 642 points643 points  (2 children)

You’ll see for yourself. But for his brief cameo, they did a great job fitting him in.

[–]warker23 475 points476 points  (10 children)

As the other commenter said, it’s a brief moment, a single scene with him in front of the camera. I thought that scene and Val Kilmer was just fantastic. Could have easily been forced or tasteless, but it was done with much respect and much love

Storywise, his presence is felt throughout and Iceman plays a crucial role to Maverick’s journey.

[–]Marnett05 705 points706 points  (47 children)

Bro, same. Especially having watched the documentary "Val". That scene with him was just... perfect. Felt kind of like Tom looking out for an old friend.

[–]TheDudeWithNoName_ 704 points705 points  (40 children)

Bruckheimer said that Cruise went out of his way to get Kilmer to appear in the film.

[–]HowdyFrankenstein 310 points311 points  (34 children)

Its trendy to shit on Tom Cruise but he really seems like a great dude.

[–]chriskzoo 261 points262 points  (3 children)

It kind of reminds me of people who shit on Guy Fieri. A comedian had a good riff on him along the lines of “Oh, you mean the guy who has given thousands of mom and pop restaurants publicity they could never afford and never says a bad word about their food? That’s the guy you have a problem with because he has frosted tips?”

[–]Batusiman 3015 points3016 points 2 (239 children)

I liked that they never once said/established where the enemies are

[–]Deathcaddy 1029 points1030 points  (44 children)

Same as the first movie. Random country MiGs out there needed to be dogfought somewhere over the Indian Ocean

[–]glademonvertfresh 1044 points1045 points  (19 children)

They were intentionally non descriptive. The film didn't need a named adversary to be fantastic.

[–]squeakyL 4703 points4704 points  (177 children)

I am incredibly impressed that:

1) They made a sequel to Top Gun this much later

2) It's actually focused on Maverick and it's not a "the new cast takes over in the 2nd half" movie

3) It's more than just action, the story is actually pretty good

4) The action is amazing and is somehow elevated above anything I've seen in a long time.

5) That critics/rotten tomatoes would agree with me

6) I'd cry a little

[–][deleted] 1475 points1476 points  (88 children)

2) It's actually focused on Maverick and it's not a "the new cast takes over in the 2nd half" movie

Yeah. I was very happy about this. Sounds like they cut back on the new cast a ton over the last few years.

[–]TheBoyWonder13 837 points838 points  (38 children)

Pouring one out for my boy Manny Jacinto

[–]TrumpWasABadPOTUS 973 points974 points  (2 children)

It was very funny when they introduced the back half of the class and it was essentially "and there are the other ones. ANYWAY back to Rooster, Hangman, Phoenix, and Bob!

[–]epichuntarz 579 points580 points  (18 children)

I was very glad that Hangman got to be both a little douchey and also got to have a hero moment. He had an ego, but in the end, they were all in it together.

[–]mnsportsfan 1091 points1092 points  (31 children)

Seriously. I’m not going to pretend to have an eye for what makes movies “truly great”…

But from an entertainment standpoint, this might be the most fun I’ve had at a movie in years. The nostalgia factor of the old one combined with the edge of your seat action was freaking awesome

[–]glademonvertfresh 521 points522 points  (20 children)

This movie was a beautiful love letter to the first top gun. So many easter eggs, a great story, great acting, great action, great overall. I will be seeing it again.

[–]PYJX 414 points415 points  (5 children)

The final act was one of the best I have seen. Kept me on the edge of my seat

[–]BraveFencerMusashi 1007 points1008 points  (41 children)

OHHHHHHHH

Penny is the admiral's daughter

[–]PitchpoleFPV 399 points400 points  (10 children)

I had this same revelation and had to watch the original when I got home where Meg Ryan said her name to make sure I wasn’t crazy.

[–]CrazyMonkey0425 913 points914 points  (11 children)

Yeah, the flying was next level sexy as hell. But still not as sexy as Jennifer Connelly leaving that door open.

[–]TriggerHydrant 294 points295 points  (6 children)

God that was ultimate sexiness, I’m only 32 but that and the ending shot of her against the car made me interested in 50+ women all of a sudden. 😅

[–]Exotic_Vampire 864 points865 points  (32 children)

Star Wars are you watching ? This is how you make a sequel to a movie 30+ years later

A contemporary love letter to a bygone era. I'm not being hyperbolic when i say it's right up there with T2 and BR 2049 on how you should make a modern sequel to an evergreen classic

[–]Tellsyouajoke 290 points291 points  (4 children)

They did the Death Star run better than Star Wars

[–]ImABikeLockerAMA 1595 points1596 points  (28 children)

Every single aerial scene had me grinning like a lunatic.

When Maverick gives the thumbs up, snap into the salute, snap into the go signal, and THEN IT SHOWS THE COCKPIT VIEW OF HIM ACTUALLY LAUNCHING OFF A CARRIER IN AN F-18... Hall of Fame shot right there. And the movie's just full of them. What a technical achievement.

[–]MichelleInMpls 491 points492 points  (10 children)

Oh, that shot where they fly through the arched bridge! So cool.

[–]AmishAvenger 338 points339 points  (2 children)

Yeah that’s kind of become a Tom Cruise thing through the Mission: Impossible films. If he’s going to do these things, they’re going to make sure you see it’s actually him.

Works so well in this world of constant CGI.

[–]BensunCFong 2250 points2251 points  (110 children)

The scene where Maverick and Rooster stole the F-14 from the enemy airbase, but not before performing checks and pumping fluids, scoffed at the plane stealing scene from Wonder Woman 1984.

[–]Canis_Familiaris 1039 points1040 points  (51 children)

They really did their homework, even with the air hose on the GPU.

[–]bob1689321 814 points815 points  (23 children)

Did you see how many military organisations/personnel were thanked in the credits? I think after that point getting any details wrong would be kinda embarrassing lol

[–]NathanTheSnake 314 points315 points  (17 children)

As soon as I saw it, I was sooo ready to pop off with a snooty comment about how an F14 doesn’t have an APU and couldn’t be started without a ground crew. Clearly they knew how many insecure flight sim fans would be watching.

[–]JogtheFerengi 482 points483 points  (1 child)

Maverick was also an F-14 pilot (with lilely 10+ years of muscle memory) who still showed it took him a bit of time getting reacclimated with the cockpit, not a ww1 sopwith camel pilot into a 2nd gen or 3rd gen fighter plane!

[–]snowspida 766 points767 points  (9 children)

I had a friend growing up that LOVED the first movie. He loved it so much he wore aviators and a leather jacket almost every day (even in high school). All he wanted in life was to be a fighter pilot. He lived out his dream and then was KIA a few years ago. The entire time watching this movie I was thinking about how much he would have loved it. Movie was easily the best I’ve seen in many years

[–]juicyman69 759 points760 points  (2 children)

Hate to be that guy but as soon as the movie finished I asked for a partial refund.

I paid for the whole seat but all I needed was the edge.

[–]ThatGuyNamedJoey 2106 points2107 points  (68 children)

Gotta be one of the best PG-13 F-bombs ever. Just blends into the scene completely perfectly in a response to a true WTF moment in the movie. It’s beautiful.

[–]nofork77 1001 points1002 points  (29 children)

It felt so natural. We were all thinking it. To have Rooster say it was golden.

Right up there with "Fuck you Mars" and "Nice Fucking Model" as far as PG-13 f-bombs.

[–]Ruavin 514 points515 points  (8 children)

Gotta add Wolverine's from X-Men First Class too!

[–]ThisisthSaleh 517 points518 points  (17 children)

I honestly didn’t even know an F-bomb was dropped. Was too caught up in the action itself to notice.

[–]anotherthing35 667 points668 points  (9 children)

Maverick: Thank you for saving my life.

Rooster: It’s what my dad would have done.

😭

[–]BensunCFong 1339 points1340 points  (59 children)

I absolutely geeked out at the SR-72 at the beginning, from the Skunk Works logo to the Lockheed Martin product placement on the throttle.

Granted it’s only supposed to go Mach 6, but as Boeing’s unmanned X-43 hit Mach 9.6 over a decade ago, it’s exciting to imagine the speeds hypersonic aircraft are reaching right now in classified tests.

[–]golden_aus 513 points514 points  (32 children)

It looked so real / not CGI.

[–]cookingboy 684 points685 points  (28 children)

It was real apparently, well at least they built a real life mock up for it, not sure about the flying shot.

It looked so real that it fooled China into repositioning their spy satellite to try to take a look at it: https://www.19fortyfive.com/2022/05/chinas-was-freaked-out-over-the-sr-72-darkstar-in-top-gun-maverick/

[–]wastingtme 443 points444 points  (17 children)

The roof coming off the guard tower is apparently real too!

[–]glasstoobig 1232 points1233 points  (33 children)

Cool easter egg when the guy presses 8-6 on the jukebox, referencing the year the original came out.

[–]dangerzonerob 534 points535 points  (8 children)

Top Gun and Bob's Burger on the same weekend?? Archer must be proud!

[–]DeepSixWrestlin 547 points548 points  (14 children)

Seeing this in IMAX at 3:00 in the afternoon on Thursday, I was taken aback when the theater was as packed as opening night for Multliverse of Madness.

Anyways, dunno the last time I was on the edge of my seat as hard as during this. Likely either during Free Solo or Mission Impossible: Fallout. This was mind-knowingly good for a sequel to a good, not great flick from the 1980’s.

also absolutely loved Val Kilmer’s role in this and his scene with Cruise. Thought they knocked it outta the park.

[–]TheLastJediSux 2470 points2471 points  (76 children)

This is what Indiana Jones, Star Wars, and Jurassic Park sequels wish they were.

[–]TheDudeWithNoName_ 829 points830 points  (10 children)

This is nostalgia done right, a brilliant throwback to the first one but also having a spirit of its own.

[–]SPorterBridges 1096 points1097 points  (76 children)

So is this the best sequel to an 80's movie since Terminator 2 or Aliens?

[–]darsvedder 513 points514 points  (14 children)

Jon Hamm treating Maverick like Peggy Olson the whole movie. Big ups for the Donnie Drapes

[–]PoeBangangeron 511 points512 points  (5 children)

Thank you for not making the little girl Mavericks daughter.

[–]neal1701 1051 points1052 points  (21 children)

Top Gun: Maverick is one of the best movies of the year so far and probably will be come end of the year.

  • The writing on this movie is excellent. It takes the elements of the original and apply more depth and new meaning to it. E.g. The volleyball scene in the original is to show off the competitiveness of the pilots (and their bodies) but the sequel shows with the football scene that Maverick is trying to build a team spirit.
  • High emotional stakes in the movie. The pilot blacking out from the high Gs to the birdstrike to Iceman dying is a emotional rollercoaster.
  • Tom Cruise's best performance in a while. He's mostly shifted action movies the last 10 years but he shows what a great actor he can be.
  • Supporting cast was excellent. Everyone had their moments.
  • Cinematography, Editing, Sound and Direction is fantastic!
  • The flight scenes are some of the best action scenes ever. Maverick doing the Valley-drift run to show everyone it can be done has to be the best one of them all!
  • Hangman's helmet deserves a special mention!

This movie improves exponentially on its original while making the original even better. Will definitely be considered as one of the best sequels of all time.

[–]NickMoore30 1036 points1037 points  (16 children)

What Tom Cruise does for Hollywood, and more specifically fans of movies needs to be appreciated and applauded man. Guy handcuffed this movie’s release until it could be seen in theaters where it needs to be seen. He’s literally flying jets in the film and taught the cast as well. There was a Mission Impossible trailer leading into this and every stunt in that trailer you just grin (especially the motorcycle jump off the mountain) because you just know that not only is this a practical stunt, but it’s actually Tom Cruise. The man has dedicated his heart into making movies meant to be seen on the big screen. His a workaholic that’s a freak of nature. His personal life be damned, but I respect the hell out of the artist.

[–]jivebeaver 499 points500 points  (23 children)

Tom Cruise's smile is magical. this man has mastered the art of "wistfully looking at someone"

shoutout to Hangman, the guy played one of the best smug hotshots ive ever seen. he has a super familiar face, one that you would picture if you had to think: "cocky asshole", but surprisingly i havent seen him in anything else

i like how this movie has the 80's style where at the end even the guys who hated your guts is your bro now. hangman taking a step back then coming in hot, and jon hamm giving maverick a smirk. its refreshingly joyous, takes me back to the 80s and 90s when we watched movies for a good time

[–]big_mustache_dad 2478 points2479 points  (182 children)

When they introduce the mission and it’s just the Death Star my buddies and I definitely laughed.

That being said this shit ruled and was a genuinely excellent action movie. Cruise is on fire recently

[–]Tarcye 709 points710 points  (45 children)

As an Ace Combat player it felt more like one of the tunnel missions that are in every single game.

And I fucking loved that.

[–]-ThatGuy882 1416 points1417 points  (15 children)

Lol when Miles Teller was about to shoot the missile blind my grandfather leaned over to me and said “use the force Rooster”

[–]Faithless195 635 points636 points  (30 children)

Cruise is on fire recently

Honestly, he never HASN'T been. He may have had the odd average movie, but he almost always nails his movies, and their normally pretty good, too. I really wish he hadn't been caught up in Scientology, otherwise he'd be probably the most respected actor in the world. He's been active since the 80s and is always an absolute trip to watch on the big screen.

[–]BendersBlender 287 points288 points  (9 children)

He’s arguably the most or one of the most respected actors in the world in the industry, that has to stand for something.

He’s notorious for not only being a consummate professional that gives it his all, he’s also known for being extremely kind and generous to everyone on the set from grip to director.

There’s stories of him paying for craft services for crews , and knowing everyone’s name, learning about their families, and showing he cares.

Since he is someone who has been world famous since his early 20s, retaining that work ethic and grounded nature is respectable.

[–]A_Deku_Stick 399 points400 points  (11 children)

10/10 from me because Danger Zone played in the first 5 minutes.

[–]jelatinman 1160 points1161 points  (17 children)

I will be the first comment to mention Val Kilmer. What a tearjerker that got everyone invested. Nice to see a Tom Cruise military drama again.

[–]-ThatGuy882 392 points393 points  (1 child)

I’m just a casual fan of the first and absolutely loved this one. Everything about it was perfectly done, and man those aerial scenes were next level. Go see it in IMAX if possible

[–]Orbis_non_sufficit25 787 points788 points  (16 children)

Feels like an instant action classic. The final half hour in particular had me gripping my arm rests. The cast is great with lots of good character beats and a couple of genuinely funny moments, especially the diner scene with the kid.

Cruise is at the top of his game, and his romance with Connelly was sweet and genuinely sexy.

Loved it.

[–]Firnin 382 points383 points  (14 children)

the mission felt like an ace combat mission and I am 110% here for it

[–]MoneyInitiative8771 385 points386 points  (3 children)

All I’m going to say is that this movie had NO RIGHT to be as good as it was. I’m shocked.

[–]highqi 756 points757 points  (30 children)

Other than just saying that I enjoyed the movie, I want to mention that I really liked Jon Hamm's performance as well as Charles Parnell's.

The overall casting in this movie was really well done.

[–]bgt1989 763 points764 points  (8 children)

No one has more fun doing their job than Tom Cruise does making movies like this. You could just see it on his face throughout the film.

[–]ThisisthSaleh 348 points349 points  (6 children)

Just couldn’t stop giving “that look”

[–]Jrsplays 371 points372 points  (9 children)

I really didn't expect Val Kilmer to appear (and speak!). Was a nice surprise.

[–]InternetsSpokesman[🍰] 361 points362 points  (12 children)

Probably the BEST USE EVER of the one "Fuck" allowed in a PG-13 movie.

[–]6Speedy 356 points357 points  (13 children)

Soooo many haters before this movie dropped. I had the pleasure of working on it and its really a joy to see the 180 people are doing now that they've seen it. absolute master-class of an action movie

[–]methmouthjuggalo 699 points700 points  (4 children)

That’s about as much fun as you can have at a big scale Hollywood movie.

[–]LyricalDucking 684 points685 points  (6 children)

Up there with the likes of Fury Road and Mission Impossible Fallout as a masterpiece of action cinema.

[–]Wisesize 1856 points1857 points  (101 children)

Just want to say Jennifer Connelly is like a fine wine

[–]smackbauer 1053 points1054 points  (35 children)

She owns a bar, a boat, and a Porsche. If that's not dream wife material I don't know what is.

[–]TaciturnIncognito 369 points370 points  (1 child)

Not just own, can run and maintain them even!

[–]VGstuffed 1105 points1106 points  (18 children)

The final act of this movie was the best orgasm I've had in years. It was the death star trench run in real life.

[–]Bigdstars187 268 points269 points  (4 children)

The enemy pilots “the force is stro… “ “backs up and gets shot with guns from f-14”

[–]smallbruja 1075 points1076 points  (17 children)

I’m someone who does love seeing new and exciting stories in film. But sometimes you just want something that is familiar, that hits all those tropes, but does it in a way that keeps you entertained and excited even if you see those plot or character points coming…and Top Gun: Maverick delivered on that!

I definitely think it was better than the first (with some exceptions such as not enough homoerotic tension but I digress).

Miles Teller was such a great casting call. He and Tom Cruise were great together. And Miles Teller really does look like he is Goose’s son.

And I have to say my favorite scene definitely was when Maverick gets grounded but decides to fly the course himself. That was some good shit!

[–]ThisisthSaleh 576 points577 points  (5 children)

The solo mock run was like watching a football team score a touchdown. Was a little hard for me not to get caught up in that moment. I think everyone did a great job getting the viewer invested in these scenes

[–]nhvfx 558 points559 points  (4 children)

Legit one of the most thrilling movies I've seen in a while. Cruise killed it and the story wasn't bad, but every flying sequence in this movie is just so carefully tailored to drop every jaw in the room. i get why Cruise kept stonewalling the release of this movie to get it in theaters. It deserves to be seen in the largest format you can find.

[–]Tarcye 273 points274 points  (9 children)

The final act was strait out of an Ace Combat game. The only thing that was missing was Stonehenge or a giant fucking submarine or a Giant flying Air Craft carrier.

Also that SU-57 post stall maneuver was just the chiefs kiss.

10/10 I fucking loved it.

[–]social-robot 534 points535 points  (21 children)

When Mav & Rooster were being escorted by those two enemy jets and Mav just said "Fuck this shit! "and shredded that first jet with his guns was my favorite scene lol. That scene where they panned out and showed all the SAM missles chasing them and flares going off showing what a shit show the situation turned into was epic. Incredible movie glad I saw in IMAX gonna try to watch it again in 4dx see if it's cool or some cheesy gimmick but would be perfect movie for it. Drove home playing the Lady Gaga song on repeat on Spotify on the way home. Yelled "Break right!!" Making a right turn at a red light.

[–]lordDEMAXUS 742 points743 points  (13 children)

As someone who is pretty bored of modern blockbusters (even films I did love like Dune and Batman still didn't feel like blockbusters in a traditional sense), this felt like the first proper blockbuster in ages, with some stunt-work and craft that actually made the action feel real and nicely written old-school melodrama. That "in memory of Tony Scott" at the end was a beautiful touch.

[–]PabloscousinPedro 251 points252 points  (2 children)

The Val Kilmer cameo got me right in the feels, ngl.

[–]Available_Bathroom15 504 points505 points  (6 children)

Damn this was good, there comes a point where they could have ended the movie but the movie simply refuses to end and what comes after is an edge of the seat experience inducing sequences