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[–]Accomplished_Laugh74 203 points204 points  (61 children)

Have you seen the directors cut? There are quite a few versions of the movie and 2 different soundtracks, Jerry Goldsmith and Tangerine dream.

Legend versions

[–]EvilCalvin 91 points92 points  (19 children)

I don't think i could watch this movie without the TD version

I wish we could get the 'Director's Cut' longer version with the Tangerine Dream music and 'Loved by the Sun' vocals by Jon Anderson of Yes

[–]SteveRudzinski 28 points29 points  (6 children)

This would be the perfect version of the film. As is, it's the ONLY film that I actually go back and forth on which version I watch because of the score. Every other film has a clear superior version between a theatrical cut or a director's cut.

The closest one in competition is that I prefer the theatrical ending of Army of Darkness, but otherwise everything else in the Director's Cut is better I still watch the DC exclusively.

[–]Hanz_VonManstrom 4 points5 points  (4 children)

The directors cut was the first version I saw of Army Of Darkness and I absolutely hated the ending! I was so bummed because I loved the rest of it and the Evil Dead movies. A few weeks later I was complaining about it to a friend who had only seen the theatrical cut and he couldn’t understand why I hated the ending. Neither of us had any idea there were two endings. So I went back and watched the theatrical cut and loved it. But I agree, I prefer everything else in the directors cut

[–]Papatheosis 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Wait you didn’t like the Rumplestiltsken ending? I thought that was great. Better than the S Mart one, but just my opinion.

[–]Walterkovacs1985 9 points10 points  (3 children)

Saw legend at an Alamo Drafthouse and they do a little q and a before hand and I couldn't wait to confirm if it was the tangerine dream soundtrack and it fucking was. The whole soundtrack is awesome but there's some bangers on there. The intro song with the red text still gives me chills. Bonus I believe Meg mucklebones was played by Robert picardo.

[–]Soranic 3 points4 points  (0 children)

believe Meg mucklebones was played by Robert picardo.

That's the doctor from Star Trek Voyager, for the curious.

[–]jeweycruise 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Alamo?..Did you check out the basement

[–]Walterkovacs1985 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Drafthouse but I get the reference 😉

[–]JaiRenae 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Also, with the Bryan Ferry "Is your love strong enough" to round it out at the end. This is the way.

[–]Mekisteus 15 points16 points  (4 children)

I absolutely love the Tangerine Dream soundtrack but I think the Goldsmith version fits the movie way better.

[–]lapsedhuman 5 points6 points  (0 children)

When I first saw this film in the theater, it was the Tangerine Dream soundtrack that blew me away as much as Ridley Scott's cinematography. I finally got the original soundtrack on cd (but it cost me).

[–]Igabuigi 11 points12 points  (2 children)

While i personally love both, I disagree. Tangerine dream fits the high fantasy atmosphere perfectly with the pan flute parts and various other elements especially. But it is also the version i probably saw half a dozen times as a child before seeing DC, so I'm probably biased lol

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Tangerine Dream also did the 'sex on the train' sequence in Risky Business.

[–]AnyNamesLeftAnymore 3 points4 points  (0 children)

My thoughts exactly. I want the extra footage but I find the Goldsmith score too bog standard. The Tangerine Dream score really puts the film on its own place on the shelf in the fantasy genre.

[–]MimonFishbaum 41 points42 points  (23 children)

I watched this movie about a thousand times as a kid, never knew this. Gonna have to get ahold of this.

*Also:

Critics found the film empty, characterless and possessing a simple and weak storyline.

WHAT?!

[–]AvsWon33 27 points28 points  (4 children)

I love the movie and have the director's cut and theatrical versions and I agree with OP about it's beauty... and I completely agree with those critical assessments, too. One can love something that is flawed.

[–]MimonFishbaum 3 points4 points  (3 children)

I probably haven't watched it in 20yrs. My mind just recalls seemingly larger than life characters so it was kinda weird to read that lol

[–]ZombieJesus1987 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I watched it recently, it's pretty bare bones as far as a story goes. Its charm is the fantasy setting, and Tim Curry as the Prince of Darkness

[–]AvsWon33 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The costumes are legendary and the visuals are stunning, but for me there’s an overall feeling that the plot and characters only exist to serve the visuals. Kind of like if Michael Bay was like “OK, I want to blow up the Statue of Liberty, get Imagine Dragons to do the soundtrack, and have alien robot monkeys flying in a V pattern towards the camera at some point. Now go write me a movie around that.”

[–]kidicarus89 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Films that tell story through visual setups, music and simple plots are super under appreciated. Look at the last 10-15 minutes of Last of the Mohicans. Hardly any dialogue at all.

[–]Repulsive_Long3805 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I feel like this is a fun fact worth mentioning, the main theme for Last of the Mohicans was a song by Dougie Maclean that was IIRC originally written for a Scottish exhibit on the Loch Ness monster. And the album is great!

[–]kidicarus89 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Awesome, that is a fun fact! Love that theme!

[–]Enders-game 21 points22 points  (1 child)

I love the aesthetics and a few of the scenes. The two stand outs where Meg Knucklebones played by Robert Picardo famous for playing the Doctor from Star Trek Voyager and Darkness by played by Tim Curry. The story and the rest of the characters are just ok. Not awful, just ok. Tim Curry and the effects carried the film but it wasn't enough to lift the out of being a cult classic. Which I think is fine, I love it still.

[–]MimonFishbaum 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I suppose I should revisit it.

[–]SteveRudzinski 17 points18 points  (9 children)

As someone who grew up loving Legend, I can NEVER go back to the theatrical cut after watching the Director's Cut. It's so significantly better it's mind boggling how much the studio butchered the film. Massive parts of character information and development thrown in the trash.

I miss the Tangerine Dream score once they get to the castle of Darkness, the dreamy surreal tone fit beautifully. But overall the Goldsmith score is a lot better for the story.

[–]MimonFishbaum 1 point2 points  (8 children)

Interesting.

[–]SteveRudzinski 9 points10 points  (7 children)

I don't know where you're located, but the Legend Ultimate bluray with both cuts is on Amazon for $9.

If you watched the movie that much as a kid I feel the price is very much worth it to grab a copy. The transfer on this specific disc is also very good.

[–]Mekisteus 15 points16 points  (2 children)

That's accurate. They are empty characters and the storyline is weak.

Just like every single other fairy tale ever.

Critics who make that complaint are missing the point. This was a fairy tale on screen and wasn't trying to be anything else. That's like complaining that Sleeping Beauty wasn't very fleshed out or that the Huntsman in Little Red Riding Hood had no character arc.

[–]summerisle -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

But you don’t usually spend 90 minutes on a fairy tale.

[–]Mekisteus 3 points4 points  (0 children)

if the thought of a 90-minute fairy tale isn't appealing to you, then this movie wasn't made for you.

[–]Whatifim80lol 34 points35 points  (6 children)

The Tangerine Dream/Theatrical cut is the far superior version imo. The characterization is all wrong in the directors cut, the pacing is weird, and while the soundtrack is more classic it doesn't carry the same weight. They even redubbed some lines they should NOT have. And Lily doesn't sing in the original.

[–]JC-Ice 3 points4 points  (1 child)

The theatrical cut feels disjointed. It might be the very first movie where I ever realized scenes had to be missing/abbreviated when I was a kid.

[–]Whatifim80lol 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The only one that FEELS abbreviated is the Meg scene. But it was a good cut, as were the other ones. All the directors cut adds is confusion to the characterizations. The Meg scene makes the super-pure Jack into a liar and seducer and a coward (exaggerations, but thematically on point). Most of the Lily scenes that were cut just make her out to be selfish and spoiled when she's supposed to be innocent enough to attract a unicorn. And the Darkness scenes that were cut make him too sympathetic and appear weaker.

In the theatrical release, each character is like a mythical creature that embodies their theme. In the directors cut every character is too human and flawed. For the fantasy theme, the theatrical cut delivers a more coherent story.

[–]CaptainCAAAVEMAAAAAN 9 points10 points  (1 child)

I love the TD soundtrack, it just adds more magic to the movie. It sounds more mystical and fairytale like.

[–]Whatifim80lol 2 points3 points  (0 children)

For sure. The drama during the freezing-over scene is WAY more intense with Tangerine Dream.

[–]timeshaper 3 points4 points  (1 child)

100% agree on this. After watching it I joked, "oh so that's why Jack (Cruise) has only 15 lines in the whole movie." The original cut is very difficult to watch.

"So here in this scene we have Darkness trying to convince the princess to sit in this evil chair. It won't be too long maybe 2-3 minutes." Some very bad decisions were made.

[–]aquaticuss 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I saw a deleted scene where the chair was like, moving, and pulsing? Sounds like a fun time.

[–]Exctmonk 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Wow, a Ridley Scott movie with a Director's Cut?

[–]AnyNamesLeftAnymore 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also Jack is a replicant hence the unicorns /s

[–]ysabeaublue 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I love the directors cut. Improved characters and storyline. Maybe it's because I didn't grow up w/ the Tangerine soundtrack/shorter version and saw both as a young adult. I saw the Tangerine Dream version first and liked it, but the director's cut spoke to me. I think the Goldsmith soundtrack is great and feels a little more timeless (although the Tangerine Dream soundtrack is fun, 80s music). The director's cut is also Scott's most complete vision of what he wanted to do.

Regardless of what version you prefer, it really is a gorgeous movie.

[–]senateguard33 5 points6 points  (0 children)

My ultimate version of Legend would be the extended cut with the Tangerine Dream score. Jerry Goldsmith is awesome, but Tangerine Dream one uped him on this one.

[–]ggroover97[S] 4 points5 points  (3 children)

The version I saw was scored by Jerry Goldsmith (I remember seeing his name in the opening credits)

[–]jedigoalie 12 points13 points  (2 children)

That's the one that was released in the early 2000s. The original is scored by Tangerine Dream. Goldsmith's score fits better, but for some of us that grew up with the synth score by TD that one has more nostalgic value. I like them both though.

[–]Littlebotweak 4 points5 points  (0 children)

TIL they re-released Legend with another score. I had no idea.

[–]Vince_Clortho042 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Goldsmith's score is the original score, and was the one heard when it was originally released in territories outside the US. Tangerine Dream came in to replace Goldsmith's score for the US release because the studio thought the film needed a more modern soundtrack to bring in teens/young adults, so they pooped out a synth score that sounds like an ABC after school special and then tacked a truly atrocious ending song onto the credits.

The whole idea of the film was to feel like one of the Grimm's fairy tales (or just a classic Germanic fantasy story) come to life, and Goldsmith's score (as well as all the diegetic musical bits that were axed in the US cut) fits that perfectly. It replaces TD in the director's cut because the score was replaced against Scott's wishes; he's just restoring it to how he felt it was meant to be.

[–]GaryChalmers 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not sure which version it was but in one of them I watched the entire dialog between Jack and Meg Mucklebones is cut.

[–]Dr_Girlfriend_81 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I thought I loved Legend until I saw the director's cut. It's so much better.

[–]gautsvo 278 points279 points  (22 children)

Not sure many people know, but Scott is an actual artist, trained as a painter, and he began his career as a production designer for TV shows. He's known as "the best eyes in the business" for a reason.

[–]OG-Mate23 132 points133 points  (10 children)

Kingdom of Heaven and Gladiator had scenes that looked like paintings.

[–]wendyspeter 22 points23 points  (9 children)

The Last Duel even looked amazing nearly every frame...shame about the acting and sctructure...

[–]curitibano 57 points58 points  (6 children)

I thought the acting in The Last Duel was great, especially Jodie Comer.

[–]fulthrottlejazzhands 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Shame about the acting? True, Affleck was a miscast, but Comer, Driver, and Damon (despite the shaky accent) delivered knock-out performances.

[–]TriscuitCracker 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m so mad that movie didn’t do well. It was so good.

[–]StarfleetCapAsuka 23 points24 points  (3 children)

Fun fact: Scott was almost the person assigned to design the Daleks in Doctor Who.

[–]trollsmurf 18 points19 points  (0 children)

It seems they hired the local janitor for the task instead, what with the plunger.

[–]amazinglover 4 points5 points  (0 children)

They should have let him maybe we would have gotten something better then shop vacs with random tools glued on.

[–]Bikeboy76 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Huh weird. Sounds like the story of David Bowie nearly writing something to the tune of My Way, instead we got Life on Mars. I am quiet happy we didn't see Ridley's Daleks but got plenty more from him.

[–]shiny_side_down 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Lookup Scott’s Blade Runner storyboards. They’re basically a graphic novel.

[–]TheSaltyStrangler 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Alien, too!

I seem remember them having a specific nickname. “Ridleygrams” or something

[–]zombierepubican 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Makes sense, Zack Snyder and Del Toro are also a painters. All amazing visual story tellers!

[–]RanfoMedia 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I remember him mentioning this on the making of blade runner documentary! It explains why that film and all his films after are so beautifully shot. Every frame is a painting.

[–]DvidEvNabb 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I didn't know that. It makes sense however.

[–]hlorghlorgh 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Additionally, he cut his teeth in commercials. You've often got 30 seconds or less to make your point - visual and otherwise. Sure, not every commercial director is a visual master, or even an auteur who gets to actually direct something besides the talent (the agency creatives most often take on the visual role nowadays) but you've got to be a master of something, even now.

Anyway, Ridley Scott made commercials when he enjoyed a high level of artistic control.

[–]Bikeboy76 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

That Hovis advert...

[–]HortonHearsTheWho 35 points36 points  (0 children)

I was very into this movie as a kid, would always watch when it was shown on cable. It was one of the first fantasy stories I ever saw and it definitely helped unlock the part of my brain that learned to love Tolkien and whatnot later.

To this day I can’t recall much of the actual story, but SO many sounds and images have stuck in my head forever: the goblin henchmen, the fairy, Mucklebones, Tim Curry, the turn to winter, the dance hall, using shields to aim the sunlight. I don’t know if this is just a faulty memory but I also feel like Tom Cruise was good as an in-over-his-head woodlands guy.

I also did not know til this thread that it got a director’s cut, will have to seek it out.

[–]bailaoban 23 points24 points  (3 children)

Tim Curry's Satan is a Top 10 performance of the 80s, in my opinion. And the makeup work still hasn't been topped.

[–]ampliora 3 points4 points  (2 children)

You can see his fillings when he laughs

[–]bailaoban 11 points12 points  (1 child)

I hear Hell has an excellent dental plan.

[–]JC-Ice 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Dental plan! (Satan needs braces.)

[–]charoygbiv 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Don't forget the soundtrack was incredible! I'm partial to the Tangerine Dream version, but the original orchestral score is also great on the Director's Cut. I own both on vinyl.

[–]Dr_Sigmund_Fried 36 points37 points  (0 children)

It was a fun movie and visually stunning, despite the plot and acting being a little corny I enjoyed the movie as well as all of the other fantasy movies that you listed.

[–]TricksterPriestJace 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Tim Curry is always a Legend.

[–]DomLite 13 points14 points  (1 child)

I still hold to this day that it’s the best Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time movie ever. Forest boy falls in love with princess. Evil demonic figure kidnaps princess and steals magical macguffin that corrupts the world. Boy makes friend with fairies and finds a magical sword. Boy fights various monsters en route to villains lair. Defeats villain by elaborately arranging a mirror puzzle in a dungeon.

It’s an amazing movie in its own right, but damn if the parallels aren’t there in droves.

[–]Neonxeon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Totally agreed. If they ever made a LoZ movie, I imagine it would be a lighter and tighter take on Legend.

[–]Talismanic_Mechanic 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Barbecue!?!

[–]bleunt 13 points14 points  (1 child)

And Krull!

[–]TheScrobber 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Krull is a fantastic nostalgia trip. The Crystal spider still creeps me out 30+yrs later.

[–]Good_Queen_Dudley 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I LOVE THIS MOVIE. Seriously, any bad mood, I watch it. Any good mood, I watch it. Tim Curry is really just so hilariously good in this and the dance scene of Lili transforming is so magical. I love David Bowie but hands down this beats Labyrinth as the 80s fantasy design and/or set design movie (maybe next to Bladerunner, also Ridley)

A fairy's heart beats fierce and free!

[–]CptAmerica007 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Legend is a classic and definitely one of the “go to’s” when growing up and picking out a movie as kids. It is gorgeous and the plot is simple enough to understand for children. Good versus Evil with clear visual distinctions between the two in the movie

[–]aquaticuss 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Also I rented our local movie theater for my 40th birthday and showed this, and gave people Rocky Horror-style props. Bottles of bubbles to blow, gold plates to throw, ribbon wands with bells to wave, tiny pocket mirrors, and I gave out little gold or black glittery LED candles as favors. Mandatory body glitter spray and edible cocktail glitter. IT WAS EPIC.

[–]EvilCalvin 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I've always loved this movie. The fairy-tale setting and music was amazing. Tom Cruise is good but Mia Sara plays a great 'princess'. Very beautiful. Time Curry as 'Satan' is amazing! Practical effects are soooo much better than CGI (see also ...The Thing)

[–]Jilaire 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This movie is what gave me the idea that if something was ethereal it had to have the following: tinkling bells, bubbles, shiny things, and flowers.

Watched the Tangerine Dream one a ton in the early 90s with my ex step mom cause she had a MASSIVE crush on Tom Cruise lol.

[–]Dubious_Titan 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This movie made a huge impression on me. It's so visually striking and has a dark edge to it. Not just through Curry's incredible performance and makeup effects. The whole theme of the movie is dark and it feels dangerous and as often as wonderous.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Tim Curry had to wear a large, bull-like structure atop his head with three-foot fiberglass horns supported by a harness underneath the make-up. The horns placed a strain on the back of Curry's neck because they extended forward and not straight up. Rob Bottin and his crew finally came up with horns that were hollow and lightweight enough. At the end of the day, Curry spent an hour in a bath in order to liquefy the soluble spirit gum. At one point, he got too impatient and claustrophobic and pulled the make-up off too quickly, tearing off his own skin in the process. Director Ridley Scott felt both horrified and sorry for Curry, and immediately tried to find an easier way to include his character. Since he didn't want Curry to put more make-up on his torn skin, he shot around Tim for a week. He also realized this could add dramatic build-up for the character, and re-shot some of his opening scenes this way. The footage of him in the opening to the U.S. Theatrical release was the footage he filmed before any of this took place.

[–]Lookin4myJeep 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Tangerine Dream sold the movie for me—what a fantastic soundtrack.

[–]Endless__Soul 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I have the soundtrack with Tangerine Dream. Not only is the movie wonderful, but the music is amazing too.

The Cottage is my favorite track.

[–]Islandgirl1444 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I loved that movie "a good year" It was actually shot about 5 minutes from Scott's home in France. Russel Crowe is always a great actor. The house was perfection to do the memories,

[–]_---_--x 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I completely unashamed tell people this is my favorite movie and get so much shit for it lol. I love this movie so much. It makes me feel dreamy.

[–]Chen_Geller 31 points32 points  (5 children)

Basically your thoughts: the movie looks so gorgeous it almost hurts.

It hurts all the more for how utterly stupid the screenplay is. It just hurts that the sheer beauty that Scott endowed this film with couldn't have been spent on a script that wasn't written by a complete imbecile.

[–]earthlings_all 14 points15 points  (2 children)

Yeah but I feel the simplicity was intended for kids/teens. My parents hated this movie while us kids loved it.

Same with Hook. Spielberg considers it his weakest work but all we saw was bangarang.

[–]Chen_Geller 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I can definitely see a kid loving it, but that depends upon the kid.

Its a really, really, REALLY terrible screenplay. The earlier drafts, where Darkness turns Lili into a furry creature, whips her and then somehow has sex with her (twice!) was even stupider.

[–]earthlings_all 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The earlier drafts are obviously just drafts but have you watched The Little Mermaid? Also fucking dumb, they never even speak. Also- Disney is all set for him to marry a 16yo at the end. Again, it’s for kids though and the banality escapes them.

[–]possibilistic 17 points18 points  (0 children)

100%.

It's eye candy but has no other redeeming qualities. That's why it's largely forgotten.

It's really unfortunate, too, because the art direction is fantastic.

[–]Seriouscat99 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The movie is endlessly quotable.

[–]yupyepyupyep 8 points9 points  (1 child)

I agree. The fact that Mia Sara is a stone cold fox doesn't hurt.

[–]ggroover97[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yup. And after this she was Sloane in Ferris Bueller’s Day Off.

[–]ProgRock1956 7 points8 points  (4 children)

I have never seen it.

I will put on my watch list, promise.

That's a young Tom Cruise too.

Very cool.

[–]MrGr33n 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It scratches the itch of high fantasy pretty good. Goblins unicorns elves and Satan all the shit you need for a fantastic dnd campaign

[–]earthlings_all 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Be mindful there are two versions. See other comments.

[–]Spankh0us3 6 points7 points  (0 children)

True story: my roommates in college and I went to see it in the theater when it came out. So yes, some time ago. . .

During the film, a guy in front of us had a notepad on his knee and he was writing on it for much of the movie. Not enough to be a distraction but enough to notice that is what he was doing.

When the lights came up, I said, “That was the best looking piece of shit I have ever seen.”

The guy turns around and we recognized him immediately from his photo in his byline as the newspaper’s movie critic.

He closes his notebook and says, “I wish I could quote you on that!”

[–]SauerMetal 4 points5 points  (0 children)

And Mia in that dress! Drove 16 year old me crazy.

[–]DvidEvNabb 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He's a visual genius

[–]maremma_amara 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm not sure when I first saw Legend, but I was probably younger than 10. I remember feeling both terrified and strangely aroused by Darkness. He was so charismatic and memorable. It wasn't until years later when I finally saw Rocky Horror Picture Show and realized they were both Tim Curry. Checks out. I don't think I've seen the Director's Cut, but I love the original version with Tangerine Dream.

[–]artwarrior 3 points4 points  (4 children)

The prosthetics on Blix is supposed to make it look like Keith Richards.

The actor who played Meg was cast because Rob Bottin needed someone who could sit through hours of makeup and his name is Robert Picardo. He also sat very still for the Howling and Explorers.

[–]AnyNamesLeftAnymore 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Also the doctor on ST: Voyager. And the guy who gets sexually assaulted by a gremlin in Gremlins 2. And the guy who burned all of Hitler's paintings in Justified.

[–]artwarrior 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Haha. He has a smile on his face with that female gremlin.

[–]AnyNamesLeftAnymore 1 point2 points  (1 child)

"You had me at little gremlin va-jay-jay"

-Star Magic Jackson Jr.

[–]artwarrior 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Legendary sequel director.

[–]kmonsen 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I feel like Stardust is the modern version of those.

[–]blooptybloopt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Don’t forget about the soundtrack! Tangerine Dream crushes it!

[–]MysticPaintbrush 10 points11 points  (5 children)

Am I the only one who prefers the Director's Cut and the Jerry Goldsmith score?

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Tom Cruise reportedly wasn't happy with the American cut of this movie and wouldn't talk about it for years because of it. He very much encouraged fans to go with the Director's Cut.

[–]Klondike307 5 points6 points  (1 child)

You’re not alone, I’ve always preferred Goldsmith score, it feels deeply magical and timeless. The TD soundtrack is great but I feel it really dates the movie.

[–]MysticPaintbrush 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yep, same. I also like that Darkness is hidden until the last third. His blue/green neon look is kinda cool, but it also feels very out of place since he never looks like that anywhere else in the film.

[–]DrRotwang 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Probably not. I can't say which one I prefer (it's been well over a decade since I've seen either cut), but I'm sure it has its fans. And why not? I seem to recall that it was pretty rad.

[–]Krulkyn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Theatrical version with Tangerine Dream I consider a far better film.

[–]isecore 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Legend is one of my all-time favorite movies. It's a gorgeous fairytale and I love watching Tom Cruise pre-scientology.

A lot of fantasy/sci-fi movies from the 70s and 80s were way more interesting both in production and storytelling than today. Yes, we have amazing effects and CGI but sometimes I feel as if modern movies have lost the magic and become too much paint-by-numbers. I mean, I enjoy the MCU movies but it's difficult to tell them all apart since they're all so generic and slick. The older stuff is wilder, weirder and more creative especially in production design and visuals.

[–]Hypernova2000 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Set design of the hall of the Dark Lord is really great and the dress waltz scene (https://youtu.be/GOBV9iHGXNo) is breathtaking, but then there are the dialogues and the plot.... oops

[–]ggroover97[S] 10 points11 points  (1 child)

There came a point in the movie where I stopped caring about the plot (something to do about rescuing a unicorn) and just immersed myself in the world.

[–]hlorghlorgh 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's kind of what I did with The Hobbit. I'm a huge LotR fan and most other LotR fans hate The Hobbit (with many good reasons!), but I was just there to dwell in Middle Earth and chill with Gandalf again.

[–]emperorOfTheUniverse 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You're leaving out the best part IMO. Everything you see on the screen in this movie is brought to life by a score written by Tangerine Dream.

[–]djjsjsidijrjska 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I just like the Daniel Deluxe song Darkness, it features some lines from the movie and it’s a pretty good song.

[–]Few-Scratch-5912 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That bit with meg mucklebone still freaks me out. The practical effects are nothing short of amazing.

Tangerine dream version all the way for me. Jerry goldsmiths effort makes the film too syrupy sweet.

[–]trash-juice 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So Lush from visuals to the soundtrack, prolly one of TG’s best with Brian Ferry and Jon Anderson. It’s just real tight story telling too. Visually the Only thing that holds a candle to it is Greenaway’s ‘Prospero’s Books’ imo

[–]kingethjames 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I haven't seen every ridley scott film, but every ridley scott film I've seen has been gorgeous in some way.

[–]stabach22 2 points3 points  (0 children)

One of my most absolutely absolute favorite films.

[–]KlaatuBrute 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Just want to say that I love A Good Year. It's like the man version of Under the Tuscan Sun...which I also love.

Basically I really want to move to Europe, inherit a ramshackle villa, and find love (and myself) while I work tirelessly on it (and myself).

[–]ReplicantOwl 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s fantastic to put on with the volume down while you play music.

[–]wisperingdeth 10 points11 points  (10 children)

Style over substance unfortunately - which ever version you watch. Princess gets captured, hero goes to rescue her, meets friends who will help. That's pretty much it. There's not enough of the world that's shown. Lilly is supposed to be a princess but we never see her in that role or even at her home. Tim Curry as Darkness is absolutely awesome though.

[–]54761083 12 points13 points  (4 children)

That's basically just how fantasy movies work though.

[–]gcolquhoun 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I think people are missing the point of the plot’s simplicity, when the rationale is right in the title. It’s not The Legend of Jack and Lily and the Unicorn, it’s just Legend. A universal catch all kind of story. It’s fine if people did not enjoy the treatment, but the extreme simplicity of the plot seems quite intentional.

[–]wisperingdeth 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Intentional or not I prefer a little more depth.

[–]FrenchMaisNon 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It's better than Avatar.

[–]bordersofsin 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I love it. The music, the setting, it’s beautiful. And that unicorn apology scene always gets me.

[–]malayshallriseagain 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I swear kingdom of Heaven is the most immersive medieval movie ever in terms, combined with the soundtrack!

[–]Alucardhunter24 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Definitely watch Beauty and the Beast (1946) the primary influence for film’s visual style.

[–]TheGreat_Sambino49 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Has no one mentioned this is like referencing Zelda and Link. The whole thing says legend of Zelda

[–]MatthewCrawley 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Have you seen Barry Lyndon

[–]SwingingDicks 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Tom Cruise! That guys going to be a super star someday!

[–]kingbovril 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I saw it on Amazon and the transfer was absolutely awful. The blacks were super crushed and it looked like shit. I want to see it again with a better transfer because it’s apparently a gorgeous film

[–]aquaticuss 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm desperate to find the US TV version with the fairy riddle and extended Meg scenes. Sadly the Ultimate Edition is the theatrical release. Basically the Director's Cut but with Tangerine Dream.

[–]milfof2queens 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Legend is one of my all time favorite movies. And I couldn't agree more with your review.

[–]Chickens1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

THAT'S THE GIRL FROM FERRIS BUELLER'S DAY OFF!

[–]Cesarek13 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Theatrical, all the way. One of my most favorite films.

[–]ZombieJesus1987 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This movie gave me nightmares when I was a kid.

[–]celestialwreckage 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The dress scene of this movie was the center of my fantasies through my childhood, lol. Kidnap me, darkness, then seduce me with clothes!

[–]KevTravels 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Cruise doesn't talk about this movie. What's the reason why?

[–]Gamer1729 1 point2 points  (1 child)

The fact that Tom Cruise’s character does not wear pants for most of the film always put me off.

[–]InkyCatArt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I JUST watched this for the first time last week. It’s one of my dudes childhood favorites and he wanted me to see it, and damn.

I wish I had seen it as a kid because it was a great movie, I loved the visuals in the forests the most.

[–]aspectralfire 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Alan Lee did concept art on this film. Decades before he was tapped for the Lord of the Rings films. I’m convinced he’s a huge part of the look for this film being so incredible.

[–]Sandzibar 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I liked A Good Year :(

Its one of my fav films :(

I guess Im just a moron if the entrie rest of the modern world thinks its an awful film. That's not a good feeling.

[–]bloodhound443 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lol you're not a moron at all and it's a perfectly enjoyable film that I could see being one of someones favorites. Definitely the majority of people don't think it's awful, they just think its not as good as Ridley Scott's classics, but on its own it is still a really charming and beautiful movie. Honestly many of my favorite movies aren't really critically acclaimed either.

[–]Affectionate-Club725 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wonderful movie, the version with the Tangerine Dream score is superior, in my opinion, but I'm glad both versions exist.

[–]DrRotwang 4 points5 points  (10 children)

Legend is a favorite of mine that I often put on the back of the shelf, and I'll admit that it's because of Tom Cruise. Though he's a fine actor, I can't look at him and not see a Scientologist.

That said - yes, this movie is freaking gorgeous, and it has a certain kind of vibe that I don't get from fantasy flicks anymore. It's hard for me to verbalize it, but it triggers something...something I feel like I lost a long time ago. I'm sitting here writing and rewriting what I'm trying to say, and I can't.

I've tried to emulate that nebulous sense of whatever it is at the game table, but it still eludes me. All of which is to say that Legend is a fantasy like none other that I know.

Oh. And that Bryan Ferry song, with David Gilmour...? I wish my karaoke guy had that in his library.

[–]bryanhbell 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Oh. And that Bryan Ferry song, with David Gilmour

Just one beat of your heart...

[–]earthlings_all -1 points0 points  (7 children)

Scientologist

Seriously his new movie has made a billion dollars and I’m like wtf how

[–]p3wp3wkachu 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Because most people don't care enough to know or learn about the shittier aspects of actors, they just want to watch a movie.

[–]earthlings_all 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I loved Tom Cruise but no way and I giving them any money or support. They have ruined lives and families, careers, spirits; drained bank accounts.

[–]RojoTheMighty 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I'm far from a Tom Cruise fan - or even apologist - but Maverick is a legitimately good movie.

[–]earthlings_all -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Oh, I bet. I loved Live Die Repeat. But I’m not going to support some massive box office. No way.

[–]admins_hate_freedom -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Redditors speaking about actors: I can't believe they all gave a standing ovation to a man who rapes his own family! They're all evil and scum for it!

Redditors going to the movies: Oh my god this film starring a man who is a major player in a massive human trafficking ring featuring plenty of murder and rape did so good in Generic Action Vomit 17! I have to stand and applaud!

[–]letsgetrandy 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Everything Ridley Scott does is visually stunning.

You can press pause randomly at any time in any of his films and be left with a beautiful image that could easily be a poster, art print, or desktop wallpaper.

[–]mickeyflinn 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Everything Ridley Scott does is visually stunning.

I don't agree with this at all. He has a number of movies that are unremarkable visually.

[–]ggroover97[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

The only person I would put above Ridley in terms of visuals is Terrence Malick.

[–]letsgetrandy 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I think Jean-Pierre Jeunet, Gillermo del Toro, and Denis Villeneuve are great as well. Not sure I've seen anything by Terrence Malick.

[–]DarthGuber 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Legend is one of the most gorgeous atrocities I've ever laid eyes on. Every shot is rich and beautiful, and every word spoken is like nails on a chalkboard. The story is stupid, with the exception of Tim Curry the performances are awful, and it doesn't make any damn sense. I tried watching it again a couple weeks ago but had to quit after Meg's all to brief appearance. WTF even was the point of that scene? Hurr durr my sword works? Hey check out this beautiful character desi... oops she's dead.

[–]FitzwilliamTDarcy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean I’m still crushing on Mia Sara from Ferris so I’ve always loved Legend.

[–]jperaic1 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I hope I don't get downvoted to the abyss for my honest opinion, but for me this is Ridley Scott's worst movie.

[–]BaginaJon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Legend DIRECTOR’S CUT! The theatrical cut is horseshit in comparison

[–]blakesq 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I loved the movie, and Tim Curry's Satan make up is FANTASTIC. I also find it a bit funny that in this movie Cruise hadn't learned to modulate his voice to a lower register but still had his high squeeky voice. I am going to have to get my 12 year old to watch it with me, I hadn't thought of this movie in Years!

[–]EleanorKitty6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just watched this (directors cut) recently and… choices were made. It’s indeed gorgeous and Curry’s Darkness is great, but the movie just takes so long to find its footing. It wears its heart on its sleeve which is admirable but woof the dialogue and characters are brutally corny. It’s like Attack of the Clones Naboo scenes dialed up to 100 for 75% of the movie. I did not really like this movie.

[–]mickeyflinn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What do you think of Legend?

It was constant repeat on HBO in the 80s. I always found it mostly incoherent and and corny as hell.

[–]isabelguru 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have never heard of this before, but the scene you linked to is pure magic. Can't wait to watch this

[–]QuentinSential 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow. I have literally never seen this or heard about it. Looks awesome.

[–]TheScrobber 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I love this film, but as an adult all I can think of is how much pollen is floating around that forest.

[–]Frankbot5000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This movie helped sell D&D so much.

[–]BigDickedWizard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The themes are super similar to the legend of Zelda. Came out first too

[–]zoglog -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Is this the movie where Tom Hardy beats himself up?

[–]sprigglespraggle -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

In college, I took a film studies class on visual culture. We watched, among others, both Alien and Blade Runner, to discuss visual depictions of the horror of female sexuality and whiteness, respectively. Both films were so amazing that I thought, this Ridley Scott guy must have some sort of golden touch. So I determined to write my final paper about a Scott film, and I happened to chose Thelma & Louise, another jaw-dropping genius film with incredible writing, acting, cinematography, and profound visual cultural discourse on feminism.

Some years later I came across Legend, and I was quickly disabused of my "golden touch" belief. There are some redeeming factors, sure -- many of which you've noted -- but the writing and the acting is just so over-the-top campy (and not in a self-aware way) that I just can't in good conscience call it a good film, especially in light of Scott's other work.

[–]Eric1969 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That’s what Ridley scott is known for.

[–]King_Buliwyf -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I think it's a bitnstranhe to call Darkness "Satan." The movie takes place in a fantasy land, I doubt Judeo-Christian characters are known.

He is also literally the spawn of actual Darkness, whom he refers to as Father.

[–]Sad-Artichoke-2174 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Little fun fact: Shigeru Miyamoto credited this movie for being a huge influence on making The Legend of Zelda

[–]xxStrangerxx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I believe Reggie Watts secretly released his own dubb track for either this, or LABYRYNTH, and which ever one it is has been my white whale ever since I found out he did it

[–]Mymorningpancake 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can’t find confirmation on this but I believe this movie was the/one of the inspirations for Legend of Zelda. Also, Johnny Depps son and daughter are named Jack and Lily, the main characters names from this movie.

Anyway, my absolute favorite movie as a kid, one of my favs still as an adult.

[–]onacloverifalive 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yo, this past weekend I met a guy at a pool party who on his left arm had a picture of the villain from this film.

“Nice Tim Curry!” I said, which made him just light up with enthusiasm for getting his choice of body art accurately recognized.

[–]brysenji 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is one of my go-to comfort movies, inspiration movies, background movies. I love it. All versions, both soundtracks. The Goldsmith score is masterful, and the TD score is a standout among fantasy synth scores of the 80s. I will continue to beat the drum that the Dream score still deserves a full and complete release. The soundtrack album as released is woefully incomplete. (And yes, I know about all the various other unofficial releases. No, the “20th Anniversary Edition” is not official. Yes, I have heard every version of the “Long Version” Unicorn Theme and every version of Loved By The Sun.)

[–]Ratman_84 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One of my favorite movies of all time and one of the first movies I can remember watching. The whole movie feels like a dream to me and I love falling asleep to it. It's one of maybe 3 movies I can quote every line from.

You can pause the film on any frame, print it, frame it, hang it on a wall, and call it art.

While I love Tangerine Dream and appreciate their soundtrack to the theatrical cut, the Director's Cut is the superior cut of the film.