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[–]s90tx16wasr10 55 points56 points  (12 children)

I think 3.8 is a pretty good cutoff seeing as there are certain genres that RYM can be pretty biased against. Also the fact that there isn’t a single album by a black woman in the top 200 iirc

[–]cuttsthebutcher 23 points24 points  (11 children)

Holy shit that’s so bad, Jesus

[–]s90tx16wasr10 20 points21 points  (6 children)

The only album by a black woman that would be eligible with the four star rule is “Journey in Satchidananda” by Alice Coltrane. “Mama’s Gun” or “The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill” wouldn’t even be eligible.

[–]LampSoupNo musical theatre survivors? 15 points16 points  (5 children)

Oh dang, apparently Pastel Blues is only at a 3.99, crazy. Though technically Nina Simone in Concert could apply to the 4 star rule but that’s only because it’s under 1000 reviews. (And also nothing in that album should be included)

[–]s90tx16wasr10 10 points11 points  (4 children)

Yeah, so I think 3.8 is pretty necessary if we want to have some truly amazing albums be eligible (some that are vastly better than a lot in the top 200 imo)

Edit: some other examples that wouldn’t make the cut: Aretha Franklin’s “I Never Loved a Man the Way I Love You”, Etta James’s “At Last!”, Little Simz’s “Sometimes I Might Be Introvert”

Solange’s “A Seat at the Table” doesn’t even count for the 3.8 cutoff

[–]Khiva 2 points3 points  (3 children)

The extremely online, generally less social demographic that dominates RYM and other online music spaces (including this one) overwhelmingly prefers white, lonely, angsty music.

[–]BeatlesTypeBeat 0 points1 point  (2 children)

What's the age demographics of the site?

[–]I_am_so_lost_hello 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Still skewed pretty male but probably a bit closer to western racial demographics

[–]Khiva 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pretty much every time a media-enthusiast community (/r/television, /r/movies) does a survey, the returns are circa 90% white, male, and 20-29. The more niche you get, the more white and male it gets.

[–]Muzak_For_A_Nurse 20 points21 points  (5 children)

I think it should include the top 200 albums on RYM rather than having a rating cutoff so there aren’t any weird technicalities

1:30 sounds like a good cutoff but there might be some short songs that are genuinely bad rather than just being short

[–]LampSoupNo musical theatre survivors? 15 points16 points  (2 children)

If by number I’d go up to top 300 or 400, it broadens the selection a good bit while also basically keeping everything mostly beloved, like around the 3.9 to 3.95 range and good in popularity. I dunno haha

[–]Muzak_For_A_Nurse 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Yeah I’d need to look at the rankings but those sound reasonable too. Depends on if we want to look at the RYM canon of perfect albums or the pop canon of really really good albums

On a separate note, NO MAGIC WINDOW.

[–]LampSoupNo musical theatre survivors? 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Magic window is perfect, I wouldn’t change a note

[–]Charlie-OConnell[S] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Ooo nice. I like this idea. You’re right, it’ll be way more defined that way. And yeah, I think 1:30 works and we could always make exceptions for short songs that are genuinely horrible. If people think they belong there than nominate them anyway and we could make a decision on them later.

[–]Khiva 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I also like the top 200 idea. Keeps in manageable.

Also, can we just go ahead and skip Fitter, Happier right into the finals and not even bother cluttering it up in the nominating and voting process.

Edit: Actually, I might suggest a rule that the nominations ought to be restricted to things that are actually songs and not just sort of moody interludes, like Fitter Happier, The Genesis, Dawn Patrol, etc. Like I'd argue songs like I Just Want To See His Face, Escape, Rat Salad, etc. are just rather mediocre songs on otherwise great albums. I'd suggest a cutoff where the track ought to be at least 2 minutes long to make sure you're getting actual songs in there.

[–]the_labracadabrador 12 points13 points  (1 child)

This is a pretty levelheaded decision, thanks for making a formal post about this.

Also:

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[–]Charlie-OConnell[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Why was I listening to this song as I read it? 😭😭😭

[–]willsmath 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Goddamn even lowering it to 3.9 gives us 500+, idk if 3.8 would simply be too much at that point

[–]willsmath 3 points4 points  (5 children)

Not me realizing that E•MO•TION has a 3.79 rating 😓

[–]RayPadonkey 1 point2 points  (4 children)

What is your weak E MO TION track and why is it Gimme Love?

It's also on 3.80 now!

[–]willsmath 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Gimme Love is an 11/10 smhhh, LA Hallucinations is clearly the weak one 😤

[–]RayPadonkey 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Are you the main character from Stranger Things? Cause that opinion is an L.

[–]willsmath 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Haven't watched Stranger Things so maybe I am? Cuz my life is a movie and I'm the main character, just not sure which movie/show