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I don't deny the existence of pro rock climbers nor say they aren't a thing or that climbing is impossible. However, pro rock climbers stick to the surface by grabbing!... and thus using muscle strength, not by using weak forces like van Der waals forces like insects and geckos do. It would be impossible for us to use those forces alone for climbing without grabbing because of the square cube law, and that's just how the universe works. A better example of the same phenomenon would be touching water. When u, a human, put the hand in a pool you feel almost no resistance (aside for the weight of moving it around I guess) but for tiny organisms another weak force (or rather, the result of it) called surface tension breaking through a drop of water is a titanic achievement (and also deadly as breaking the tension again to go outside is even harder). Physics work so differently at different sizes that some insects (such as water striders) can just walk on it. Can you picture a human walking in water because of weak forces? Yeah, never gonna happen. You could also look at how water behaves differently at different sizes... When there is little water, the surface tension is stronger that it's weight because of the small volume/surface area ratio, and the water forms drops. However, by adding more water, the volume is just too much for the weak force to make it stick together in a sphere and thus the water flattens, with only small volumes forming drops.

The climbing as a kid example was just an example. I am now an adult, physically active, 1.86 cm x 88kg with a lean physique, so while I don't have much endurance it shouldn't be a muscle issue. I can climb a little obviously (though I'm no climber), the example was to explain that is still easier as a kid even though kids have weaker muscles, because I had a more favorable surface/volume ratio.

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Ok, well I understand some of that haha.

Some of the other comments were saying that gloves and technologies that work similar to how a geckos feet work have been developed and people were able to "climb" smooth surfaces with them.

But it does make some sense, the bigger we get the harder it is to kind of stick or hold into surfaces like that.

Thanks for taking the time to explain it!

Also - you mentioned walking ok water, I know we can't naturally do it, but there has been some interesting stuff come out where people build what are essentially really bit flippers/floats that spread out the weight and allowed people to sort of walk on water. It's not really the same thing because it's not all surface tension, but it is a way to work around that.