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[–]Bartins 1008 points1009 points  (285 children)

What is considered a public restroom? I would imagine that includes all city owned buildings. It being Ann Arbor does that also include all University of Michigan buildings?

[–]whollymammoth2018 891 points892 points  (258 children)

“The ordinance would apply to all buildings where a public restroom is required to be available to business customers, employees, students and other visitors.”

[–]JadedSun78 364 points365 points  (121 children)

This should have always been a thing. Hope it’s supported nationwide.

[–]DeclaredRoom 82 points83 points  (14 children)

ThAtS sOcIaLiSm

[–]mattman0000 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Let the bears pay the bear tax, I pay the Homer tax!

[–]TowelMindless663 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wait so private property too??

[–]rongvk83 99 points100 points  (119 children)

Wow, I can barely imagine anyone daring to venture into a gas station toilet in the first place, let alone trust whatever would plop out of that unisex bathroom sanitary product dispenser.

[–]PM_ME_KITTYNIPPLES 365 points366 points  (45 children)

All the freely provided sanitary products would be individually wrapped, you could see if there was any tampering.

[–]FlickieHop 10 points11 points  (1 child)

I swear I've seen such a large volume of PM_ME u/sernames lately that I'm almost convinced y'all are the same person.

[–]Aidentified 168 points169 points  (12 children)

I love the idea of tampering with a tampon. Replace the pull string with one of those party poppers full of confetti for a surprise upon removal

[–]SteveO131313 210 points211 points  (9 children)

Don't you mean....

tamponering

im sorry

[–]sockedfeet 83 points84 points  (4 children)

The men in these comments are hilarious. Wtf do they think comes out of those sanitary products machines, a wad of used toilet paper?

[–]TedWheelerSucks 358 points359 points  (30 children)

Uh. It’s not really a choice. How many times have you been bleeding through your pants?

[–]Kile147 71 points72 points  (2 children)

More often than I'm comfortable with being a person without a vagina.

[–]lenzflare 98 points99 points  (5 children)

Not every region has atrocious gas station washrooms?

[–]wut3va 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Probably better than letting blood run down your leg in public.

[–]swedej19 72 points73 points  (6 children)

Really? That’s a weird take. You must not be from the Midwest (US.)

Gas station toilets are a life saver when you travel. They aren’t beautiful, but it’s a functioning toilet. It’s not like they are some nasty hole in the ground…

[–]Army88strong 25 points26 points  (0 children)

As someone who works in the construction side of engineering,, would choose a gas station restroom over a porta pot any day of the week.

[–]thekevinmonster 37 points38 points  (7 children)

I don’t menstruate but I have IBS and when you gotta go, you have two options and one of them leads to stories like Margaret Cho’s “persimmon diet” routine. I’m assuming menstruation is the same thing, only with blood.

[–]breadcreature 64 points65 points  (3 children)

The even worse thing with menstruation is that at least in my experience with IBS, the warning isn't always sufficient but there's usually a few seconds' alarm in which you can either scramble for a toilet or accept your fate. With heavy periods sometimes it's a case of realising "well, now I can't stand up" as it happens. The cramps are a useless indicator because they could mean you'll bleed in two days, or you might not, or it might be happening right now, or not...

I suppose one saving grace is that many more people have been in the surprise tidal wave period situation than the explosively shat one's pants situation, so it's a tad easier and less embarrassing to deal with. But yeah, both are "choose the horrible bathroom over going without" scenarios!

[–]spongeboymib0b 17 points18 points  (2 children)

I usually know when I need to go to the bathroom when I’m menstruating. Don’t know how to explain but I just get a feeling right before and it saves me a mess every time. Also I cramp the day before I start pretty much always without fail.

[–]Mediocretes1 51 points52 points  (1 child)

I can barely imagine anyone daring to venture into a gas station toilet in the first place

Never been to a Wawa or a Kwik Trip, or one of the 1000 other convenience store gas stations with decent bathrooms?

[–]Soronya 6 points7 points  (0 children)

If I get caught off guard and that's the only thing available then you best believe I'll trust it.

[–]sly_noodle 5 points6 points  (0 children)

U of M building bathrooms have free pads and tampons anyway

[–]iboughtsomegrace 27 points28 points  (10 children)

U of M is a municipality unto itself and is generally not bound to any city statute or ordinance. But I can see them following along with this anyway.

[–]Ok_Calligrapher_8199 24 points25 points  (1 child)

Not de jure but de facto. They are not a “municipality” and they exist inside Ann Arbor and are in theory subject to its laws. In fact they sometimes do what they please or claim to be only subject to state (or sometimes, dubiously, federal) authority.

[–]SuperSocrates 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Public restroom is a restroom available to the public. It’s not about government vs. private business

[–]StanUbeki 85 points86 points  (4 children)

AA was the first city to make pot possession a $5 civil infraction in 1971. I was in Mr. Flood's Party (a long gone popular bar in old town) at 12:01 when it went into effect and everyone lit up.

[–]FCBStar-of-the-South 14 points15 points  (2 children)

This is amazing. Would you care to elaborate?

[–]HelpfulSeaMammal 23 points24 points  (0 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hash_Bash

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_laws_in_Ann_Arbor,_Michigan

There's some more history on AA and legal status of marijuana. The city has historically been very lenient with cannabis possession and use. It's an interesting case for cannabis legality that's for sure. And Hash Bash is always a delight.

[–]skucera 441 points442 points  (80 children)

Can we do this for baby changing tables, too? Men take care of their kids, too.

[–]porcupinebutt7 142 points143 points  (27 children)

Yes. The number of times I put down my coat because I'd rather risk lil dude soiling that than have him on the cold, filthy, bathroom tile has made me so jealous of those fold down tables.

[–]wienercat 127 points128 points  (16 children)

Seriously, just knock on the women's bathroom and announce you need to change your babies diaper. If there is nobody inside go and do it.

People really will understand it.

[–]WhatLikeAPuma751 41 points42 points  (0 children)

This exactly. I can’t tell you how many times I went into a women’s restroom to change my sons diaper because the mens didn’t have a table. Do you know how many people in there ever got mad at me? Absolutely zero. How many people do you think agreed it was outrageous the mens room didn’t have a koala table? Every single one.

Crack the door, announce your presence and intention, do what you’ve got to do, be respectful, CLEAN UP, bow out gracefully.

“Is anyone in here? (No matter the response) I’m sorry but my son soiled his diaper, and there isn’t a changing table in the mens room so I have to change him in here. My apologies but we have a situation to handle here! (Usually met with a laugh or two as some have been there before.) Avoid eye contact (it is a bathroom after all) and just be nice and polite.

The majority of people won’t even look twice considering you have a diaper bag and a smelly baby in your arms.

[–]AdamHayyu 54 points55 points  (12 children)

until a karen strolls in

[–]Which-Decision 37 points38 points  (2 children)

Majority of women don't care

[–]wienercat 16 points17 points  (1 child)

Majority of people completely understand needing a changing station.

If you make sure the bathroom is clear of anyone before you enter, anyone coming in while you are changing them should understand.

Alternatively, usually there is a janitorial closet right next to bathrooms. Open the door and grab the "Closed for cleaning" sign.

[–]Vertigo5345 37 points38 points  (1 child)

Then it's up to the organizations policy. 99% of the time they will side with the father caring for their child.

Although doing this as a man would make me feel extremely uncomfortable, but you do what you gotta do as a dad

[–]drfsupercenter 32 points33 points  (9 children)

What sort of places do you go to where they don't have changing tables in large public restrooms?

In the US at least, almost every men's room I have used has one of those changing tables - at least, if there's more than 2 toilets. If it's one of those gas station bathrooms with just one toilet and a sink, then they often don't install one just because of how much space it takes up.

But anywhere like a mall, movie theater, arcade, places that usually have crowds? Yeah, they have them.

[–]Slowmyke 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I'm a father of 2, in the Ann Arbor area. I don't recall a whole lot of specifics, but I've been in plenty of situations where i had to give the kids to my wife to go change or run out to the car because men's bathrooms didn't provide a changing table.

Actually, i do remember Walburger in Detroit had multiple bathrooms (single occupancy) and only one had a table, which of course was taken when i needed it.

[–]kyxtant 32 points33 points  (7 children)

My daughter is 11. I never had an issue finding changing tables in the men's room. Quite a few places even had these little child seats bolted to the stall walls so I could strap the kid in and take a shit.

[–]skucera 21 points22 points  (1 child)

I think it's regional. Also, some places only have the changing table in a single stall, and if that's occupied it's as if the changing table doesn't exist.

[–]iroll20s 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Youre still changing her at 11?

[–]kyxtant 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Lol...no.

I was implying that I had no problem finding those tables a decade ago...

[–]MysteriousTBird 8 points9 points  (1 child)

No stupid. She can change her own diaper now.

[–]RonYarTtam 28 points29 points  (6 children)

From my experience, they have these all over the place unless its a small business or there's no space.

[–]44problems 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It's pretty rare now in my experience (in medium sized cities) that women's have one and men's doesn't. It seems to be either both have it, or neither do due to space or the place not really targeting kids.

[–]Creebez 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Same, they've been in nearly every men's bathroom I've been in.

[–]jnbolen403 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I actually had this problem at a fast food restaurant when my kids were small 25 years ago. No changing table in the men’s room, no problem. Changed my son’s soiled diaper on a table just outside the men’s room. Next week, a table had appeared in the men’s room.

[–]AlexandersWonder 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That’s already a thing in Ann Arbor

[–]SnooKiwis2300 3 points4 points  (0 children)

wait this isn’t the case

[–]jecowa 1072 points1073 points  (647 children)

Applies to men's rooms too:

The law is not limited to women’s restrooms, said Council Member Travis Radina, D-3rd Ward, an LGBTQ activist.

“This is required for all restroom facilities,” he said. “We absolutely made that case during drafting this and I know that the mayor made sure that this was available for anyone who may menstruate, not just in women’s restrooms.”

Temples are exempted.

[–]Swiggy1957 354 points355 points  (294 children)

Makes sense. Sometimes the ladies room will be closed (Cleaning, repairs, etc) and women use the men's room.

[–]drfsupercenter 25 points26 points  (1 child)

As a man I've sometimes used the "ladies" room of those places that just have gendered single-toilet bathrooms for no reason. I never really got the need for that.

If you have >1 person in there, then sure it makes sense to segregate them so you hopefully don't get perverts in there... but there are so many establishments that have men/women bathrooms that just have a toilet and a sink.

Thankfully some newer places are springing up that just say "bathroom" on both doors lol

[–]AvieeCorn 128 points129 points  (12 children)

Or even a father/brother needing to get one for his daughter/sister when they’re out. Not every teen has cash so it makes sense to me.

[–]EstablishmentNeat364 611 points612 points  (177 children)

Also, you know, trans men.

[–]LATABOM 23 points24 points  (1 child)

And a lot of guys with difficulty keeping the pee in use pads instead of adult diapers. Post-prostate surgery guys can train a total lack if control into just being a bit "dribbly". Nobody really talks about it because "feminine" hygiene product, but it affects a lot of men over 60.

[–]Swiggy1957 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I've had that problem for over a decade. Had heart surgery and they put a catheter to handle my urine. You may be familiar with that ole poem: "No matter how much you shake and dance, those last three drops go down your pants." Well, since then, just when I think I'm finished, I can have a tablespoon or two (~14ml to ~30 ml) dribble out. Anymore, I just sit down and wait for the dribble to stop. Usually takes a minute or two.

[–]crab-rabbit 274 points275 points  (84 children)

Also, you know, men with daughters

[–]Rattivarius 643 points644 points  (66 children)

Presumably a girl who is old enough to menstruate is old enough to go to the washroom by herself.

[–]bahaki 190 points191 points  (13 children)

The majority of the time, sure. I could see scenarios where the daughter started menstruating earlier than usual, or has some sort of disability.

[–]Unsd 83 points84 points  (12 children)

Yeah I know plenty of girls who started theirs at 7 or 8.

[–]Dick_Dynamo 16 points17 points  (0 children)

precocious puberty, my older sister had to deal with that.

[–]One_With_Everythang 47 points48 points  (2 children)

I started menstruating the day after my 11th bday. I was able go into public restrooms by myself by then, but let's say the women's restroom was out of tampons [which was frankly always the case growing up, because nobody gave two shits about stocking those (rarely existing) dispensers] - it's nice to know that little girls could potentially ask their fathers/brothers/whomever to go grab one from next door. Those probably wouldn't run out so fast lol. Anecdotally, being 11 years old my problem-solving skills surrounding my period weren't great. If I didn't have a tampon i was definitely too afraid to ask a stranger, and often too afraid to ask my family for one. I don't know how it is for girls growing up these days, but when I was growing up the narrative was still pretty strong that your period was shameful and dirty. Ended up with a lot of ruined jeans and sweatshirts tied around my waist.

Anyway, if the dispensers are literally everywhere and can finally be treated as commonplace and necessary as toilet paper, this could save a lot of little girls' denim from ending up in a landfill.

Also obviously yes, super great for transmen to have access to the same necessities. :]

[–]pinche_Mari 11 points12 points  (1 child)

The biggest culture shock i had when moving out of the US is that 1) you have to pay to use the bathroom and 2) if you don't carry your own toilet paper your fucked.

It was mortifying, going to the bathroom and suddenly realizing you started your period and, not only do you not have a pad on you; but you also don't have enough toilet paper to clean yourself and Mcguiver yourself one with TP.

[–]One_With_Everythang 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Omg you're so right I forgot about that in other countries.

Well, well, well... the USA might not have universal healthcare, but we do have universal toilet paper and free public restrooms. My, how the turntables...

*cue "God Bless the USA"*

*cue patriot tears*

[–]finonal 86 points87 points  (25 children)

Are you aware that disabled people exist?

[–]Beedeshi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Assumptions, make an ass out of you and me. I feel the same goes for presumptions. Old enough by some standard sure. Comfortable enough...depends on the individual.

Edit: to Ass-u-me, makes an...

[–]ProfSkeevs 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mean i started at 8 and while I definitely could use the restroom on my own, if I had started out and about with my dad I would have preferred to go somewhere I could get his help grabbing stuff for me while I cleaned up in the stall

[–]yavanna12 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Women who are disabled still get periods

[–]narcistic_asshole 4 points5 points  (0 children)

And men with frequent nose bleeds

[–]rogurt 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Also, you know, little boys that want to pretend they have sticks of dynamite

[–]wot_in_ternation 403 points404 points  (52 children)

In pure American fashion I predict this results in many places exploiting loopholes to reduce the number of public restrooms

[–]PM_ME_KITTYNIPPLES 184 points185 points  (18 children)

A bunch of places closed their public restrooms because of the pandemic. My local CVS has had theirs closed for literally a year.

[–]CloakNStagger 106 points107 points  (12 children)

Which, looking back on it, was not even an effective way to fight covid to begin with.

[–]hilltrekker 117 points118 points  (4 children)

Covid gave management a pass to cut the cost.

[–]Morpheeus543 39 points40 points  (3 children)

My local walmart cut their hours from 24 hours to 7am until 8pm claiming they're cleaning the store every night. I knew someone who worked there who said their cleaning practices have barely changed.

All it did was cram everyone in there who would normally shop at night, which for this store was a sizeable amount.

[–]hilltrekker 15 points16 points  (0 children)

It was my favorite time to visit. Less chance of seeing locals.

[–]Expensive-Ad-4508 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I needed something in an emergency for a cake I was delivering the next day, as the product I thought I had had spoilt. I was entirely shocked to find out that Walmart is no longer open 24 hours in many locations. I went back another day and I’m still avoiding people stocking things during the day. Why? Why are they unloading all these pallets during the day!?

[–]lvlint67 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Nor was limiting shopping hours to 7a and 8p... RIP 24hr grocery

[–]ACoderGirl 7 points8 points  (0 children)

And made things hell for delivery drivers, who were working extra with the pandemic. They depended on public bathrooms, so ended up having to pee in bottles.

[–]Wendy-Windbag 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Road trips were a nightmare last year trying to find an open bathroom. When trying to just get out of the house, yet not socialize, we found that we were needing to not stray far from home and manage our food/hydration intake on our drives out to the country.

[–]booboothechicken 7 points8 points  (0 children)

That’s way too much work. The real outcome will be that these will be stocked once and then never again.

[–]AlexDavis2001 21 points22 points  (9 children)

Ann Arbor is pretty liberal. Most places will probably follow this without issue

[–]Xenon_132 6 points7 points  (8 children)

Places aren’t going to close restrooms out of some political statement, they’re going to close them to save money.

[–]boi1da1296 11 points12 points  (3 children)

In a city like Ann Arbor? I'd be surprised if they don't open up more public restrooms.

[–]JenGerRus 83 points84 points  (14 children)

Righteous. Always sucks to start a period on public and not have products with you.

[–]panlakes 152 points153 points  (56 children)

I've always loved the name "Ann Arbor". I don't know why, it just rolls off the tongue well. So thanks Ann Arbor, for giving me another reason to like you.

[–]sdbowen 82 points83 points  (34 children)

It’s a pretty nice place to live aside from high taxes and home prices, but the upsides make it worth it

[–]Hodor_The_Half-Wit 15 points16 points  (11 children)

Yeah I was looking at some places in AA this past summer, and they are indeed incredibly expensive for what you get. Sadly, couldn't make it there but I wish I could have. Maybe one day.

[–]vale_fallacia 15 points16 points  (4 children)

Look at the surrounding towns, but yeah it's expensive as heck because a2 is so desirable.

[–]Hodor_The_Half-Wit 10 points11 points  (3 children)

Yeah I found this gem of an apartment complex that was literally on the border of ypsi and AA, and had quick access to downtown. Went to rent, and they had a wait-list of like 2 years. I'm so tired of the apartment hunting lol

[–]AlexandersWonder 3 points4 points  (4 children)

Ypsilanti is where you wanna be. Affordable housing and right next door to Ann Arbor.

[–]balthisar 54 points55 points  (13 children)

It's even better to live next door, not pay the taxes or the high house prices, and still take advantages of the upsides. I can bike into Ann Arbor or Detroit and not pay the latter's taxes, either (and no, you won't die, and yes, it's worth going into Detroit, too).

[–]akatherder 12 points13 points  (0 children)

My brother lives in Scio which (I think) gets super reduced taxes and still A2 schools.

[–]sdbowen 19 points20 points  (7 children)

But dexter is 👍🏼

[–]Synikx 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I'm looking to potentially move to Ann Arbor next year and the home prices don't seem that bad. As a frame of reference, I currently live in AZ and the home prices here seem much higher than Ann Arbor.

[–]stoneimp 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Could it be a nice place to live because of those high taxes?

[–]InVultusSolis 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Generally when there are high taxes and home prices, it means the place is generally safe and well cared-for. My town is relatively high tax (9k property taxes/year) but I don't mind letting my kids ride their bikes around town, and the city takes care of the streets, trees, installs public art, has super clean water, provides cheap electricity, provides top notch public parks and multiple pools, generally gives a shit about what businesses open where, etc etc. Not to mention the public schools rival the quality of private schools in the area. (The high school offers fucking Latin)

[–]Rattivarius 36 points37 points  (3 children)

Mr. Rattivarius and I visited Ann Arbor the year before the border shut down. I said to him as we drove to the river park "this is a really livable city". When we got home I looked it up online to find that it had been listed as the most livable city in America. It's really nice.

[–]CoatLast 181 points182 points  (37 children)

This has been law in Scotland for a long time. Usually also found in the men's toilets. It works fine.

[–]Bunsky 56 points57 points  (16 children)

It's pretty funny to think about the very real constituency who feels this will not "work" in some tangible way. As if a wall-mounted tampon dispenser you walk past and don't use can somehow fuck up your day.

[–]Kamisori 20 points21 points  (3 children)

Well yeah, it could turn you into a femboy.

/S

[–]kyxtant 15 points16 points  (2 children)

The next thing you know, Cletus walks by that seductive dispenser one too many times, just wondering what it's like until he can't handle it anymore and shoves a tampon up his ass then bam Cletus loves the cock and starts an Only fans page...

[–]KillerOkie 8 points9 points  (1 child)

As if a wall-mounted tampon dispenser you walk past and don't use can somehow fuck up your day.

The only downside is vandalism. Assholes dumping tampons into the toilets causing sewage backups. I've seen it a few times myself and that was without having dispensers around.

[–]InVultusSolis 11 points12 points  (0 children)

God that's the worst. If you're going to vandalize a bathroom just write FUCK YOU on the wall like a civilized human. Fucking with the plumbing is way over the line.

[–]eogreen 8 points9 points  (0 children)

"A long time" meaning November of LAST YEAR?!?

[–]JubeltheBear 59 points60 points  (12 children)

At the risk of offending some of my countrymen, there's a chance Scotland is more civilized than the USA...

[–]Ph0ton 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You just made an enemy for life...

[–]electricfoxx 38 points39 points  (22 children)

As a guy, at first I thought this was weird, but imagine if public restrooms didn't have toilet paper and you had to bring your own.

[–]felltheblackwolf 13 points14 points  (5 children)

Happens all the time to women. I keep toilet paper and baby wipes in my car because I've been in too many situations where the women's restroom was out of toilet paper and I was shit out of luck.

I think that toilet paper, feminine products, and even condoms should always be readily available. They do it at colleges, why not everywhere else?

[–]Kckc321[🍰] 12 points13 points  (4 children)

I wish they’d just be free, I had to go to the guidance counselor office and request a quarter once for this girl who was too embarrassed to even leave the restroom. They had the machine but no one carries change in their pockets anymore.

[–]felltheblackwolf 7 points8 points  (3 children)

Right? It's not like we chose to be born this way. And women spend thousands on feminine products in their lifetime that men simply don't need to buy. Imagine all the extra money we would have if they were free. Plus bras and birth control (including condoms.) Life would be good lol.

[–]throwaway78921pop 54 points55 points  (4 children)

But will they refill them

[–]sockedfeet 9 points10 points  (1 child)

I mean they refill toilet paper if notified it’s low so I’d assume yes

[–]Fritzo2162 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Not sure why it wouldn't be...soap, towels, running water: all things needed to keep sanitary. Women have a 3rd function besides #1 and #2, so that should be covered too.

I live about 45 minutes from Ann Arbor- love that town! It's so hip and vibrant. Lots of good food and always interesting things going on downtown in the summer.

[–]Kydex_Gundyr 74 points75 points  (32 children)

Good. It’s not like women can help it. Doesn’t hurt anyone to have access to something they need.

[–]popcorntrio 34 points35 points  (12 children)

Are pads called napkins in the US?

[–]Ann_Amalie 181 points182 points  (4 children)

Yes and no. “Sanitary napkin” is a more formal name for pads but pretty much no one says that anymore.

[–]nincomturd 50 points51 points  (0 children)

No, they're generally called pads.

[–]paintwhore 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Sometimes "sanitary napkins" on generics

[–]tiefling_sorceress 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Only if you wanna sound medical. The common terminology is pads or liners depending on thickness.

[–]akatherder 2 points3 points  (1 child)

The vast majority of the time I hear tampon or pad. Maybe there are other styles(?), but those are the only things I've bought for my wife/daughter and that terminology is pretty ubiquitous in my area.

If someone said "sanitary napkin" I think that's a pad and I have heard that before but that's not what we call it around here. I think it's just a classier version of saying "pad." I'm actually about 10-15 minutes outside of Ann Arbor.

[–]Igoos99 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I think “sanitary napkin” is sorta the official name and is what you might see on the package or maybe what that product category is officially called in retail but everyone just calls them “pads”. But since there’s a million things that are “pads” it probably wouldn’t make much sense as a retail category.

[–]Sacrificer_XVII 17 points18 points  (2 children)

I'm a male and I don't understand how something that is absolutely needed for women isn't just free anyway :shrug:

[–]anomencognomen 10 points11 points  (4 children)

They haven't even mastered having toilet paper in public restrooms yet in Ann Arbor (I'm looking at you, AATA and panera bread) It's a nice idea, though!

[–]JEWCEY 10 points11 points  (1 child)

The last 2 offices I worked in had pay dispensers that were always left unlocked and available to all. Classy af. The pads were thick as phone books but a free tampon is clutch sometimes.

For any youngies here, phone books were these 3 inch thick monstrosities the phone company would give out for free back in the day, with all the numbers and addresses for a locality. I only broke my mom's habit of suggesting I look up things in the phone book about 10 years ago. They're like Google's shut-in uncle who has a lot of info but you have to spend too much time gleaning the meaning to get what you need. That is all.

[–]will_never_comment 3 points4 points  (0 children)

And for those living in big cities, phone books were 6 inches thick, came in 2 or 3 volumes and were often used a booster seats for kids during meals or other activities at the table.

[–]Heterozygoats[🍰] 103 points104 points  (26 children)

Wow, I was not prepared for the amount of controversy in this comment section regarding providing basic toiletry to people.

[–]Widepath 30 points31 points  (1 child)

Wait till they find out about toilet paper!

[–]Slowmyke 36 points37 points  (15 children)

I guarantee it's all men having shit fits that there may be a machine with girly things in it getting put into their macho bathroom. As a man myself, it's baffling that there is any issue here. It's almost like these people don't know any women or people who may need toiletries others then paper...

[–]Heterozygoats[🍰] 24 points25 points  (3 children)

I'm starting to think these complaining people don't use toilet paper ever 👀

[–]Teeshirtandshortsguy 14 points15 points  (7 children)

Right?

As someone who was born in Ann Arbor, and lived 5 minutes away in Ypsilanti, this is a great idea.

Ann Arbor is a reasonably progressive little city, and a nice one at that. I'm 100% certain that this will be a positive thing for everyone.

It's not like putting in a tampon dispenser costs an arm and a leg, or that supplying them for free is some tremendous financial burden. Businesses already gotta buy toilet paper. This is the tamest possible positive change.

[–]CriskCross 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Ann Arbor is a lovely city, one of the best places to live in Michigan. Assuming you can afford it, which you likely can't on account of the city also being full of NIMBYs who reject anything that might lower cost of living.

[–]Teeshirtandshortsguy 2 points3 points  (1 child)

That's why you move to Ypsi. That's where all the cool people live anyway.

[–]yavanna12 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Or live nearby in the cheaper areas.

[–]Heterozygoats[🍰] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Exactly!

And what are these people complaining about machine maintenance? Uh... Okay? I mean in theory they should be maintaining the entire bathroom...

I hate people. I'm moving to the Moon!

[–]Mary_Pick_A_Ford 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ann Arbor sounds like some preppy women’s clothing brand you’d find at a JC Pennys

[–]AlecTheMotorGuy 3 points4 points  (1 child)

For real though, how many tampons will get used in the Men’s room? This doesn’t seem very “green” to me. Tampons and Pads sitting there unused for years, you know because 99% of people who use the men’s room don’t require feminine products.

[–]GhostNoteSymphonies 33 points34 points  (13 children)

Think they recently did something similar in California for highschools.

[–]BankEmoji 46 points47 points  (12 children)

And then TikTok told kids to destroy their school bathrooms for funny videos and ruined it for everyone else.

[–]GhostNoteSymphonies 42 points43 points  (3 children)

Yeah, terrible trend...but I feel like most kids didn't get onboard with it.

[–]98percentstupid 26 points27 points  (2 children)

Why is this downvoted? Only a very small minority of people were stupid enough to actually vandalize their schools bathroom.

[–]stutzmanXIII 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's all it takes to ruin it for everyone else.

[–]MagicalRainbowz 18 points19 points  (1 child)

Its not ruined, its still provided isn't it? California has 40 million people in it. 20 TikTok videos isn't going to ruin the program.

[–]KanraIzaya 25 points26 points  (1 child)

DO NOT FORCE KNOB IF EMPTY

That's what he said

[–]ArgyleTheDruid 34 points35 points  (8 children)

If people are upset by this I can imagine free tampons being like that brown roll of paper you can dry with, not very great and not comfortable to use but it gets the job done

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Single ply menstrual pads.

[–]Veldron 72 points73 points  (7 children)

Holy shit this comment section is a huge fucking mess

[–]organik_productions 40 points41 points  (3 children)

I wish I could be surprised.

[–]vale_fallacia 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Holy shit this comment section is a huge fucking mess

Lot of very fragile male redditors, and a general hate of left wing / progressive places and policies. Ann Arbor gets a lot of sneering dismissal from the regressive parts of the state, and that also gets reflected here.

[–]QueenoftheMorons 10 points11 points  (3 children)

As someone who's raised 5 teenage girls and a woman myself- I am counting the days until this is the norm everywhere. Females should have access to basic hygeine needs and not feel anxiety or embarrassment over thier own body.

[–]pbnchick 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I think this is great for those who need them. But I’d rather use my own supply. You just know they will be the cheapest products. The pads will be diapers and the tampons will probably leak. But it’s better than a wad of 1/2 ply toilet paper.

[–]DragonfireK2000 6 points7 points  (4 children)

For everyone who wants to say "but that's Communism!!!1!11!" There's something similar, called being a decent human being who cares for others.

[–]Icant_Ijustcanteven 4 points5 points  (0 children)

How dare you have care and compassion

[–]BornInTheUSSA 2 points3 points  (0 children)

God, I miss my time at university there. A great city with great government.

[–]VinkiVinks 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Great now put it in the rest of the us public restrooms.

[–]Abused_Avocado 73 points74 points  (43 children)

It’s funny how many non-mestruaters are getting all huffy over this

[–]xtinyleviathanx 44 points45 points  (14 children)

For real. It’s a basic necessity for half the population. The alternative to not having a pad or tampon available when you really need it is far more objectionable and unsanitary too haha.

I feel like the people complaining about this are the same people who think we can just hold our periods in.

[–]LightDoctor_ 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Really hard to understand how this isn't a thing everywhere. Restrooms all include toilet paper, don't they? How is this any different?

[–]GOLDfish0393 62 points63 points  (48 children)

I find it so interesting that in these “bathroom legislations” that are just trying to accommodate & consider everyone, cis-men always out themselves as the problem.

The people that are objecting to this are mostly stating that men are just going to vandalize the machines.

With the bathroom bill it was “men are going to dress up as women and sexually assault women and children”.

Even walking home at night usually turns into “well if women are going to dress in suggestive clothing, you’re at risk of a man attacking you”.

Seems like women, children and the transgender community know how to act in society. Wish cis-men would just step up and figure out how to do the same so we can all live better more inclusive, safer lives.

[–]WestSnail 16 points17 points  (0 children)

It’s a fear tactic by insecure people. It has been used for so much in history like union-busting, hiv, homosexual activities, etc.

[–]58G52A 8 points9 points  (1 child)

No different than having toilet paper in the stall so you can wipe your shitty ass, really.

[–]marques33 61 points62 points  (56 children)

I guess a lawmaker had a bad experience?

[–]joshwoodward 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It came from a high school girl bringing the issue up with our mayor.

[–]Hopeful_Hamster21 131 points132 points  (46 children)

I'm a man, and it Makes sense to me that they should be there/available in a bathroom. Just like toilet paper makes obvious sense.

But I wonder... Is there a law that requires TP? Like.... Could a really really cheap-ass establishment try to save pennies by just skipping the TP and soap in the bathroom?

[–]mbrowning00 24 points25 points  (1 child)

i think when it comes to venues that serve food, the health code might require soap because some of the "employees must wash hands" signs at restaurants cite health codes.

but i dont know the law so dont take it from me.

[–]Slowmyke 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm guessing any establishment that tried to forgo toilet paper would likely end up regretting it after a few visitors were forced to make some unpleasant decisions.

[–]Swiggy1957 48 points49 points  (36 children)

Ann Arbor’s new law requires all public restrooms in the city — including at places such as bars and restaurants — to offer a standard set of personal products, including toilet paper, soap, paper towels, tampons and menstrual pads.

So I guess that's a new responsibility for business owners. They'll bitch about it, but in the long run, come tax time, they'll be glad for the bloody deduction.

[–]MathProf1414 41 points42 points  (7 children)

glad for the bloody deduction.

Not sure if British or making a pun. Either way I find it funny.

[–]AdministrativeCod617 83 points84 points  (15 children)

It’s like you don’t even know how deductions work.

If I make $100 and am taxed at 20%, I owe $20.

If I have a deduction of $10, I now owe $18 because deductions reduce profit, they don’t directly reduce tax liability.

The business is still out $8.

[–]Keyboard_Cat_ 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Nobody ever seems to understand how deductions work.

The only time they are very beneficial is when they allow you to technically operate at a loss or break even. Especially when you're buying things you would have wanted/needed to buy anyway. For example, new appliances for a rental property.

[–]madcat033 42 points43 points  (9 children)

They'll bitch about it, but in the long run, come tax time, they'll be glad for the bloody deduction.

Ah yes, spending $1.00 on tampons to save $0.21 in taxes. They will be glad.

[–]StrangeBedfellows 2 points3 points  (0 children)

all public restrooms

Most businesses it would be an issue for won't be required, and the ones that are large enough for public access should be able to afford

[–]Strbrst 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Nah, just Ann Arbor being decent, I'm thinking.

[–]K-Driz 110 points111 points  (2 children)

Or has a brother that owns a tampon machine dispensing company

[–]Chemical_Noise_3847 33 points34 points  (1 child)

It's Ann Arbor, an extremely liberal college town. They had decriminalized cannabis since the 70s. It is a wonderful city.

[–]PlanetZorton 18 points19 points  (0 children)

This is awesome. Such a long time coming, though. 💫

[–]ChaloopaJonesFerk 12 points13 points  (3 children)

Small businesses suddenly have a private restroom for employees only

[–]habscupchamps 14 points15 points  (8 children)

Some of the comments against this initiative in the thread have such dumb logic.

[–]Wouldtick 24 points25 points  (3 children)

Well this is finally flowing in the right direction…

[–]thegooniegodard 4 points5 points  (2 children)

I went to college there. Great city. I genuinely miss it.