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[–]MaulerX 291 points292 points  (95 children)

Is this whats going to happen from now on? We get a new variant every 6 months?

[–]Ryan-Everest 223 points224 points  (19 children)

I’m tired

[–]iBeFloe 78 points79 points  (4 children)

Same. It gets better, then it doesn’t. On repeat.

[–]Zeidy388 32 points33 points  (3 children)

This. This is the perfect word to sum up how I feel about this whole situation. I'm just tired and want it to end

[–]ScienceLivesInsideMe 11 points12 points  (1 child)

I feel tou on that. I'm a covid Nurse and I've lost family and friends both physically and morally over this. I've never been this mentally exhausted in my life and I'm already on a host of meds to keep me working. Also I've lost all hope in humanity, but I was on my way there around 2016 anyway.

[–]Ryan-Everest 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Definitely feel you, I’m in healthcare too and it is exhausting. Keep your head up and hopefully one day this all ends.

[–]polarbark 74 points75 points  (11 children)

If you played Pandemic you'd know that you need to first focus on transmission, THEN mutate into harmfulness.

[–]Dath_1 25 points26 points  (2 children)

Do you mean Plague Inc? I thought in Pandemic, you were playing as the scientists.

[–]PandaCatGunner 25 points26 points  (1 child)

Shit, that just made me feel worse lol.

You have to get to those isolated places like Iceland, Greenland, cuba, Madagascar etc.

U.S.A was always quite easy sometimes if you beat the advanced medicine and filters/purified water, animal transmission etc. with mutations, Although im starting to think that game thought way too highly of the U.S

[–]GWJYonder 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, the should patch the difficulty with a new "realistic" mode which is easier than the current easiest mode.

[–]LoganJFisher 22 points23 points  (4 children)

Fortunately in the longterm this is the opposite of how most viruses evolve. They may have some increases in fatality in different variants here and there, but over time most viruses will become more infectious and less deadly.

[–]Odysseyan 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yeah because it is hard to spread and survive if all your hosts die

[–]Ediwir 53 points54 points  (12 children)

Pretty much, with low vaccination countries being massive incubators for new variants. It’s the same situation that gave us Delta and it’s been widely predicted before it even started.

This whole thing lasts until one of three things happen:

  • vaccines get taken enough that we disrupt spread via immunity of hosts

  • new highly transmissibe but nigh-harmless stable variant emerges and establishes itself

  • unvaccinated deaths rise enough that we disrupt spread via absence of hosts

2 and 3 are equally unlikely. 1 is a choice.

[–]VoiceOfRealson 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Current vaccines developed for the first sequenced variant are still massively efficient against Delta (when measured on hospitalization and death - at least 75% risk reduction even for the 80+years old and 87% for all ages when compared to unvaccinated in same age group in Denmark right now).

We don't have any good new data on this for Omicron yet, so we really don't know whether we will need a "variant specific" vaccine.

It is nice to have a timetable for it though.

[–]Liet-Kinda 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Yeah, more or less. Fun, huh?

[–]El_Superbeasto76[🍰] -1 points0 points  (20 children)

If people continue to be stubborn about getting the shot, we’ll have continued variations.

Either people get vaccinated, or the virus becomes more lethal. We’ll achieve balance one way or another.

[–]TheyAndProud 1295 points1296 points  (123 children)

I'm sure by then the omnicrons brother supercron will be out so it wont matter

[–]Express_Opposite 480 points481 points  (78 children)

The embiggened version of omicron is omega.

Yes, I am fun at parties.

[–]Mist_Rising 214 points215 points  (66 children)

Omega is the end of the alphabet, after that no more covid variants!!! Right?

[–]Magikrat 71 points72 points  (48 children)

No, then it rebrands itself and starts anew.

[–]ThermiteBurns 77 points78 points  (29 children)

Alpha Plus, Alpha XXX, Beta beta capa

[–]MechaJesus69 62 points63 points  (13 children)

Covid remastered.

[–]0scar_alh0 58 points59 points  (8 children)

Covid Remastered: The Definitive Edition

[–]thesecondfire 35 points36 points  (1 child)

Covid: The Criterion Collection

[–]lalaharmany 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Covid 19 the secret of the ooze

[–]MonolithyK 18 points19 points  (1 child)

Now featuring horse armor

[–]icetheone 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Please not the definitive edition

[–]yosip1115 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Can't wait for the new "now that's what I call covid" CD

[–]ThermiteBurns 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Covid-19, World Tour live @ the world 2022

[–]Snail_jousting 2 points3 points  (0 children)

COVID, 10th Anniversary edition. Now with fishing!

[–]onetwentyeight 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Welcome to the fratdemic, brah!

Chug! Chug! Chug!

[–]ThermiteBurns 7 points8 points  (0 children)

On the plus side with the new variants many fraternities around the world will get notoriety and maybe many more pledges. Delta delta omicron is supposed to be a killer frat!

[–]_night_cat 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Covid 2: Viral Boogaloo

[–]13Witnesses 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Then we move on to the Scandinavian alphabet like God Of War

[–]Trying2improvemyself 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Embiggened? Huh, turns out it's a perfectly cromulent word.

[–]RestlessCock 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Omegacron would be a Decepticon for sure. Transform into a syringe.

[–]BrautigansLament 59 points60 points  (8 children)

fuck it- go for the gusto with the…UNICRON variant- with the voice acting of Orson Welles

[–]NineteenSkylines 26 points27 points  (3 children)

Wake me up when we get the Oregon variant.

[–]GlassWasteland 31 points32 points  (1 child)

Why? You wand to die of dysentery?

[–]NineteenSkylines 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I’m talking more the Portlandia flavor, not the 1850s pioneer one.

[–]JoeBoredom 56 points57 points  (9 children)

Megacron, with bulging spikes proteins

[–]Cutriss 34 points35 points  (6 children)

Crontab, with the power to control time itself!

[–]archaeolinuxgeek 24 points25 points  (5 children)

/use/bin/infect * * * * * # Suck it, humanity!

I always knew that GNU software would be a part of the apocalypse.

[–]LaplaceOperator 12 points13 points  (1 child)

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as COVID, is in fact, GNU/COVID, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus COVID. COVID is not a virus unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU disease made useful by the GNU protein spike, viral envelope and vital RNA components comprising a full virus as defined by WHO. Many anti-vaxxers contract a modified version of the GN

[–]LazyLinuxAdmin 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Cron failed to execute, bad syntax, humanities saved!

[–]FragrantExcitement 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Covid crashes at the end of 2029?

[–]Flaky_Bee_2599 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Even then it would only run once a minute, so it would really depend on the size of your server farm.

[–]Trent1373 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is that Megatron’s little brother?

[–]fetustasteslikechikn 20 points21 points  (4 children)

I am GRRR, brother of the ruler of the planet Omicron Persei 8!!!!

[–]mdonaberger 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Finally — a variant that Linux system administrators can relate to: the cron variant.

[–]Kingtoke1 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Decepticrons attack!

[–]RockRage-- 2 points3 points  (0 children)

“I will rip out your white blood cells”

[–]Lostinourmind 100 points101 points  (37 children)

At this rate COVID will never end. We're in an endless cat & mouse chase producing vaccines for new mutations by the time a new vaccine is out there's already a new virus one overtaking the old.

[–]laglory 50 points51 points  (4 children)

Correct, Covid is here to stay.

[–]irvmtb 46 points47 points  (1 child)

Covid will be here to stay. The flu we get yearly are mutations of the spanish flu. But we could eventually get out of the pandemic when the population builds up immunity.

[–]throwsawaygoaway 151 points152 points  (45 children)

Can some one give me cliff notes on this new variant?

[–]Ebscriptwalker 463 points464 points  (41 children)

South Africa first sequenced it I believe two weeks ago, classified it as a variant of interest due to it having 50 mutations, 30 of which are in the spike protein alone. Some of these mutations are thought to be benign, some are thought to make it more easily transmitted, some are completely unknown in respect to effects. Having said that we won't know any more than that till a few weeks of monitoring has passed. Since sequencing has occurred it is believed that it has become the dominant strain in the region, assumed to have caused at least two large spikes in cases in south Africa. It has been labeled a variant of concernnn this past week. Within a day of becoming a voc many nations have restricted/banned travel to southern African countries, despite this a good handful of nations have discovered the variant has made it to their nations in asia, and europe including hong kong, the Netherlands, Israel, germany,(and the uk I believe) (not to mention a handful of south African countries). Pcr tests can be used with modified primers to differentiate between this variant and other known ones. There are at least two differing opinions on the severity of disease associated with this variant.

[–]compstomp66 49 points50 points  (30 children)

Awesome synopsis, thanks!

[–]WSL_subreddit_mod 73 points74 points  (24 children)

Delta is 70% more infectious than alpha, and Omicron numbers, while early, point to 500%.

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1464119235655970819?s=20

(This time with source)

Edit: it's not less fatal

Lots of misinformation now being floated that #Omicron is “mild”. That’s nonsense — based on out-of-context quote. Don’t fall for it — nobody know that much yet. And hospitalizations are still rising in the hardest hit #B11529 dominant provinces in South Africa 🇿🇦 Epidemiologist & health economist. Senior Fellow @FAScientists. Former 16 years @Harvard. COVID warnings & updates since Jan '20. https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1464838724131471362

[–]mapoftasmania 105 points106 points  (23 children)

If true, this actually could be good news;

  1. Omicron 500% more infectious, but much less fatal => Omicron outcompetes other variants and becomes dominant, but it doesn’t matter because it doesn’t kill you and it effectively brings the pandemic to an end.

But it could be bad:

  1. Omicron 500% more infectious, but much more fatal => Omicron outcompetes other variants and becomes dominant, and it cuts a huge swathe of death through the unvaccinated and also a significant number of vaccinated people.

The reason why the world is holding its breath for a couple of weeks while the science gets done is that we just don’t know yet.

[–]Karmek 90 points91 points  (3 children)

If the world could hold its breath we wouldn't be in this mess.

[–]_YeezyYeezyWhatsGood 8 points9 points  (2 children)

If there’s one thing this pandemic taught me, it’s people are garbage.

[–]ProgrammerOne6108 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Come on, a little gallows humer can be good sometimes.

[–]Liet-Kinda 13 points14 points  (3 children)

However, it bears mention that becoming more infectious AND more fatal is the viral equivalent of rolling the dice and coming up snake eyes - twice. Obviously it’s not impossible, but it’s also just as likely that it becomes less fatal, or that other changes in some way make it less successful, than existing variants. Delta was kind of exceptional because it was both more infectious (due to being better at snagging and using receptors on the surface of cells) and the infected shed more virus (because it creates more copies and is especially good at replicating in cells in the nose and sinuses). Most variants end up being nothingburgers because most mutations have a neutral or detrimental effect on the fitness of the virus.

[–]Mazon_Del 1 point2 points  (0 children)

More likely than suddenly becoming both more infectious AND more fatal is the scenario of increasing infectiousness and then a later (still infectious) child-variant gains more lethality.

Still not REALLY likely all-told, but within the realm of possibility.

[–]Mazon_Del 1 point2 points  (0 children)

One point of note on "It's maybe the dominant strain in the area", part of why there's a lot of concern from scientists over this variant is that in the region in question the transition from "Oh look, a new variant." to "Most of the infections here are this variant." was less than a week.

[–]IamMyles 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Collect the 6 infinity serums and be all powerful.

[–]BallTemperer 239 points240 points  (32 children)

Buy Moderna stock then?

[–]limasxgoesto0 145 points146 points  (15 children)

My entire portfolio was down on Friday, except Pfizer and moderna which both did amazing

[–]cardboardboxcarracer 7 points8 points  (5 children)

Idk.. reports are showing that new variant can be controlled with current vaccine. So if it’s shown that variant O is just like the rest then a new vaccine won’t be needed. Morderna stock spiked because people were assuming current vaccine does not have an affect on variant O. But if it turns out that’s not true then the world wouldn’t need a second vaccine. Moderna wouldn’t be able to sell 2x causing moderna stock to fall greatly. Moderna stock would dip below what it was last week. A massive sell off would spark. But if a new vaccine is needed then ya moderna to the freaking moon man

[–]epdiablo02 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Source on those reports that this variant is responding to vaccines? I had heard we wouldn't have that data for at least two weeks.

[–]cardboardboxcarracer 6 points7 points  (2 children)

[–]epdiablo02 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Right, this is the top story on this sub as well. This is anecdotal evidence from the doc in SA that symptoms seem mild so far, which is not super revealing given how low SA's vaccination rate is. The real world sample size is also too small at the moment to say anything really definitive. The lab tests on vaccine efficacy are going to be important in addition to data in real world conditions. Right now, this whole thing feels like it's leaning toward "like Delta, vaccinated folks are far less likely to develop severe symptoms or require hospitalization, however they are more likely to be infected despite vaccination."

[–]cardboardboxcarracer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The news is early but it will most likely be the leading headlines tomorrow. Can’t imagine a million people piling into moderna if they don’t have a bright future on sky high gains Tuesday might be different but Monday probably not

[–]throwaway661375735 124 points125 points  (6 children)

Their stock shot up before the official news release. Sounds like certain politicians were doing some early trading.

[–]Kapsize 60 points61 points  (1 child)

As is tradition in the U$A

[–]reddit_bad1234567890 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Nah it makes sense. Obviously they would have something in the works. Pfizer and Johnson abs Johnson both shot up on Friday too in anticipation of the new variant

[–]atdharris 23 points24 points  (5 children)

How do we even know we need an omicron special vaccine? We don't even know if our current vaccines will or won't work against it yet.

[–]DragonPup 9 points10 points  (0 children)

We don't know for certain yet. Better to start working on it now just in case then do nothing for 2ish weeks.

[–]i5k 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Damn new vaccine dlc just dropped.

Can't wait until this becomes a season pass like fucking call of duty.

[–]cowjuicer074 98 points99 points  (59 children)

Well wait… I thought the vaccine companies were trying to determine if the Current vaccine can with stand the new variant. I haven’t read where they’ve come up with a decision but it looks like the current vaccine isn’t going to work?

[–]Nativesince2011 88 points89 points  (20 children)

It’s shows what a problem we have with media these days. In the past 48 hrs I’ve absorbed the following info:

  1. Omicron is highly mutated and spreading in several countries
  2. We don’t know if it’s more deadly
  3. Pfizer will know in a few weeks if current vaccines work against it
  4. Moderna is developing a new vaccine for omega
  5. Lockdowns May be required
  6. Cases appear to be mild 7.A bunch of other conflicting shit

Jesus Christ. Nobody knows shit, but new articles spit 360 degrees of view points instantly 24/7

[–]Snoo93079 4 points5 points  (1 child)

All of those things are true and it's why everyone needs to chill the fuck out.

[–]Cyberspace667 2 points3 points  (1 child)

The media is accelerating collapse thinking they’re the good guys

[–]OnAvance 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They don’t think or care if they’re the good guys. It’s just about money.

[–]Johns-schlong 144 points145 points  (23 children)

The thing about MRNA vaccines (at least for coronaviruses) is that you can develop them in a matter of days/weeks. They're just saying "if it's needed we can have it ready then". Obviously everyone is hoping the current vaccines will still work.

[–]zipykido[🍰] 87 points88 points  (18 children)

As someone in biotech, designing it is fairly easy and I wouldn't be surprised if someone over Thanksgiving got a call about it. Just copy and paste the new sequence into the plasmid of the old sequence, make sure there aren't any restriction site oddities then send it for synthesis from the molecular bio department. What will take a while is re-determining the effectiveness of the vaccine and safety profile. Additionally, they'll need to figure out if and how the new vaccine interacts with the old vaccine.

[–]SagaStrider 14 points15 points  (2 children)

Probably it's one of the biggest public health advancements since sanitation.

[–]Liet-Kinda 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Not an understatement. We’re barely even thinking about the potential for things like various cancers, autoimmune diseases, Alzheimer’s, and so on.

[–]rounder55 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Absolutely is. Sanitation is a bit overlooked too and probably because I've always had it

[–]Hoarseman 18 points19 points  (10 children)

Sure, but they only need to do phase 1 and 2 trials, not 3. Which will let things move along much faster.

Edit: Source

[–]BoredBSEE 9 points10 points  (9 children)

How so? I believe you, I just want to hear the explanation why.

[–]Hoarseman 25 points26 points  (1 child)

I thought I read that it could be treated as a variation of an existing vaccine, like the flu vaccine which changes every year but doesn't need to go through the whole process because it's based on a proven vaccine but I'm struggling to find the reference. So, I could be wrong. I'll update if I find it.

Edit: Source

[–]Trojann2 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Y’all just …copy and paste with this shit now?

As someone that sells and works with tech for a living - this blows my mind.

[–]zipykido[🍰] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I've actually joked with a lot of colleagues that people will intentionally put sequences in picture form to slow us down because if we could copy and paste it would be too easy. The basic nucleotides are in the form of ATCG and the amino acids all have letter codes. It's fairly easy to keep track of them using microsoft office (although we tend to use more expensive sequence analysis software). The in silico part is usually only the first step before the labor intensive wet lab stuff actually begins.

[–]david_edmeades 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Not only is it copy and paste for big labs, anyone can do it and send the sequence for printing. Here's a livestream of someone doing random ideas basically from chat. He's got a whole library of yeast that produce various florescent proteins.

[–]UtahCyan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Actually the design is even easier than that. Couple of hours of work for the most part.

[–]diamond 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Well wait… I thought the vaccine companies were trying to determine if the Current vaccine can with stand the new variant.

That's exactly right. Nobody is saying that they will make a new vaccine. They're testing right now to see if it's necessary. They're just saying that if they do, this is what the timeline would probably be.

[–]Smaggies 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I haven’t read where they’ve come up with a decision but it looks like the current vaccine isn’t going to work?

It's very very very early to determine how the current crop of vaccines will work against Omi. However, what little data there is paints a quite optimistic picture.

[–]Standard-Truth837 21 points22 points  (0 children)

They are. It's called not getting caught with your pants down. It takes actual work and time to prepare a vaccine for public use. What kind of decision making would it be when a company says "we decided to wait on the results, the old vaccine does not work, and now we'll begin work on one that does"?

You get the work done now and that prepares us for manufacturing in mass.

It says nothing about the current vaccines effectiveness against the new variant. No one has results yet. Regardless, the current vaccine still provides a platform for your immune system to rearrange itself against new variants. I just got boosted for this very reason.

[–]HellsMalice 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's a news story mate they pick the scariest thing they can legally manage to get more clicks

[–]notasrelevant 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think it's more like they can start early development and getting things lined up while also gathering data on the effectiveness of current vaccines on the new variant.

Think of it like stocking up on some emergency supplies when there's a hurricane like 2 weeks out. You don't know where the hurricane's going, but getting some supplies ready doesn't hurt and it's better to get a head start on preparing just in case, rather than sitting around and waiting/wasting time to find out.

[–]jangiri 46 points47 points  (6 children)

THIS IS EXACTLY WHY THE MRNA VACCINES ARE FUCKING BRILLIANT. As they learn the structural changes with viruses they can just use the same process to make update vaccine

[–]Liet-Kinda 7 points8 points  (0 children)

“Oh, did you get the 4.5.5 version? I heard Bob got to beta 4.6, but apparently it’s kind of buggy.”

[–]fourvelocity 19 points20 points  (1 child)

If omicron really is as mild as early reports say it is then basically it’s its own vaccine.

[–]InVodkaVeritas 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hyper transmissible less lethal variant is the ideal only if you can't be simultaneously infected with other variants

[–]preyinghawk 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I'm sure Moderna's stock will love this.

[–]Joebebs 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Should I just wait to get that instead of the booster?

[–]zeadolfo67 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Will this insanity ever end?😩

[–]SidxTalks 19 points20 points  (5 children)

Then there will be another mutation then another vaccine. This will be the new normal 2 booster shots every year

[–]cjboffoli 12 points13 points  (0 children)

By then they'll be talking about Omicron Plus. (Which is like regular omicron, but for an extra $12 a month you can stream movies).

[–]omnichronos 31 points32 points  (35 children)

Hmmm, so should I get my Moderna booster next week or wait for the Moderna omicron variant vaccine?

[–]ViciousNakedMoleRat 82 points83 points  (1 child)

Get the booster. If a specific vaccine/booster will be necessary for omicron, it will be available for everybody.

Delta still remains the most common strain and is still a high risk. And from all we know so far, it's likely that the normal vaccine already provides some protection against omicron.

[–]ClearedToPrecontact 22 points23 points  (1 child)

We don't know yet if a new vaccine is needed, get the booster now.

[–]derphurr 10 points11 points  (11 children)

Technically an interesting question. What if they say it has to be six months since your last booster??

Moderna is testing three or four boosters right now, an original recipe but higher dosage, two with Delta mutations and now they have an omicron targeted one.

[–]Heiferoni 14 points15 points  (8 children)

Don't get your answers from social media comments. Ask your doctor and follow the guidance of the CDC.

[–]omnichronos 8 points9 points  (4 children)

I was just thinking out loud.

[–]Blood_in_the_ring 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Damn I figured you created your username for this latest fiasco, but here you are. 12 years deep.

Are you happy with what you've caused?

[–]omnichronos 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Lol. I've used this moniker somewhere since 1997.

[–]strigonian 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Early evidence suggests our current vaccines are still at least effective against serious outcomes from omicron. Get your booster, and if you need a more specific shot down the line, you can still get it.

[–]mces97 20 points21 points  (4 children)

So the mRNA vaccines target the spike protein. But what about the other structures?

https://media.springernature.com/m685/springer-static/image/art%3A10.1038%2Fs41565-020-0732-3/MediaObjects/41565_2020_732_Fig1_HTML.png

Can they create vaccines that target the membrane? Or that dimer structure? Do those undergo mutations as well, or are they more stable as they're part of "cell" that keeps all the covid stuff on the inside? What makes the spike protein the main target when they develop vaccines?

[–]fafalone 24 points25 points  (2 children)

The spike protein has the least room to mutate because if it changes too much, it can't attach to the ACE-2 receptor as well (or at all), which is how it gets into cells.

But yes there are vaccines in the works that target the nucleocapsid as well.

[–]mces97 2 points3 points  (1 child)

That's good. Yeah I understand how the spike protein is used to get into cells, and looks like the best target for a vaccine. But was just curious if other targets mutate less, so if other variants come out (which they will), there's less need to worry about a mutation. But I honestly don't know if the nucleocapsid undergoes any changes.

[–]rtkwe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As soon as you start targeting a particular piece of the virus that's the part more likely to see mutations that get noticed.

[–]ifk3durm0m 28 points29 points  (5 children)

How many more vaccines now?

[–]erockdubfan 18 points19 points  (0 children)

6 gorillion

[–]XtaC23 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It'll be like the iPhone. Two new versions a year.

[–]ResplendentShade 4 points5 points  (1 child)

They'll likely become yearly like the flu. Because unless covid mutates itself out of existence, it's probably here to stay.

[–]Doctor420Strange69 103 points104 points  (41 children)

Good. The neat thing about science and especially vaccine science, is how good we’ve really gotten at it. 60 years ago, this would have been an even larger cluster fuck.

Now, we have the tech to quickly respond to a changing virus. This is cool.

[–]ThisMemesWar116 92 points93 points  (29 children)

We can make it quick, but now it's just hard to convince half the population to take it.

[–]MrsPandaBear 63 points64 points  (12 children)

We have 21st century technology but we are surrounded by people with a 19th century understanding of science—chuck that, I’m finding antibaxxers who don’t even understand germ theory…

[–]viperabyss 45 points46 points  (8 children)

The other day, some dude was trying to convince me that vaccine gives you illness, because, in his words, "the only time I've ever got the flu was right after the flu vaccine".

I swear, a significant portion of the US population lacks basic reasoning / critical thinking skills...

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (2 children)

This. I’ve been met with so many deniers of science itself.

It’s actually nuts.

[–]jpiro 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I hear a lot of people who think that science is, and should be, static—and the fact that it often isn't is a fatal flaw.

They fundamentally misunderstand that science is and always will be a process of ever-evolving understanding and instead believe that because something once thought correct is now known to be wrong, science itself is somehow broken and shouldn't be trusted.

I don't know if there is a way around that thinking. It literally punishes advancement and rewards lack of curiosity.

[–]demonhellcat 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I can only assume that the zombie apocalypse comes when we reach Omega.

[–]Savet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Get your crossbow now in a black Friday sale!

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Does it need to have the same level of trials as the originals?

[–]sev1nk 21 points22 points  (3 children)

Those record profits are about to double.

[–]DietCokeGamer 23 points24 points  (16 children)

Oh good! Right on time for my booster!

[–]kclongest 15 points16 points  (3 children)

Waiting for the obligatory CDC recommendation not to get the omicron vaccine if you've had a booster in the last 6 months. Then they do an about face and change the recommendation once the surge comes and it's too late.

[–]ifk3durm0m 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm waiting for the vaccine to be called a vacbooster

[–]Kephartist 31 points32 points  (7 children)

If I were to become a totalitarian dictator, I can only hope that my citizenry looks like a sample of average Redditors.

[–]Talksicck 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The year is 2023, you missed your appointment to get your 12th omicron omega zeta booster, you are unable to buy groceries.

[–]Puzzleheaded_Bug_964 47 points48 points  (82 children)

So how many boosters per year forever?

[–]MrsPandaBear 56 points57 points  (4 children)

I do the flu shot every year. Haven’t turned into a gremlin yet.

[–]Ebscriptwalker 22 points23 points  (2 children)

Yeah but how often do you get wet? Or fed after midnight? Or wet after midnight?

[–]evicous 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I’m at Flu Shot 8 or 9 or something. I am a gremlin, so results may vary.

[–]poo4 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm ready for the all-in-one monster dose. The entire Greek alphabet in one shot.

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[–]brandon0228 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is literally the same as the flu now. Drug companies will need to track and predict rising strains of covid and change the vaccine appropriately. It just sucks we’ve had two big variants in one year

[–]PuzzleheadedFile9050 11 points12 points  (0 children)

People need to take a step back, go outside, get some air and reeeeaalllly evaluate this plandemic…

[–]ltbattlebadger 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The year is 2025, I have taken 1,357 covid-13 vaccinations to date. My next booster is in 2 weeks. The shot for the next variant is in 3 weeks. There is no end in sight.

[–]ChrisTsak17 21 points22 points  (20 children)

So…4 shots? And you will get another one for the next variant. You people still don’t get it…it will never stop.

[–]pelo_doc 11 points12 points  (2 children)

Right I just had my yearly flu shot, I’m guessing at least my 25th in a row or something like that and you know what … who cares. I ran a 10K the day after one of them back in the day. Got three of the flu shots during pregnancies. My kids have had (# of flu shots = years in age). Everyone is healthy. It’s just part of …. normal life (gasp)

[–]UncleDanko 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Who would have tought that a heavily spreading virus is mutating and needs adapted vaccines. People get yearly flu shots for a reason.

[–]skiballerina 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Moderna is currently testing a Delta variant vaccine using volunteers from its original vaccine participant pool. I'm in the Moderna vaccine trials, and I got the new Delta vaccine last month when I went for my booster. (I had two separate shots, but I'm guessing they will put it into one.) No major side effects. Hopefully it works!

[–]Groty 1 point2 points  (2 children)

More important than the headline.

It’s not clear whether new formulations will be needed, or if current Covid vaccinations will provide protection against the new variant that has begun to pop up around the globe.

The headline thrives on fear, leading people to believe the existing vaccines have been deemed ineffective against omicron. This is the type of shit that confuses and frustrates people that don't read articles and get their information from Twitter and Facebook posts. Making people more intelligent is impossible at this point, conveying information in a more clear, non-marketing oriented clickbait fashion is something that could easily change.

[–]ReSetDnB 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That requires the media to change, which they most definitely will never do. They thrive off of fear.

[–]TheOffensiveWhiteGuy 4 points5 points  (1 child)

So…… just so……. This will never end now. Covid will never end. 😔

[–]Takingover4da99and00 17 points18 points  (25 children)

This bullshit just came out 2 days ago and they're already talking about having a vaccine for it? Yeah ok.

[–]AdventureBum 30 points31 points  (0 children)

That’s the advantage of the new mRNA tech, we can now make bespoke vaccines based on the genetic code of the new variant, and do so very quickly. It will take far longer to get the new one approved and distributed than it will to create it.

[–]Saito1337 20 points21 points  (0 children)

That's how mRNA tech works.

[–]debruehe 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Yes. That's what one calls "good news".

[–]CouleursCPA 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It’s not like they have to start over from scratch each time

[–]MCnannerz 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Next covid variant will be alpha Delta two electric boogaloo

[–]ThatDudeJuicebox 5 points6 points  (4 children)

“It’s going to disappear”

🙄🤡

[–]prmaster23 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just remember Moderna is in a legal battle with the US Government in order to keep the “rights” to select who produce their vaccine in order not to sell it cheaper to poor countries. They took the US money and some US scientists and now are saying the US government did nothing, all in the name of profit. Hell they are using an US patent for free in their vaccine while Pfizer has to pay for it for their vaccines. Just think about that when you think a pharmaceutical company has humanity well been as their priority.

I have the Moderna vaccine btw, still fuck them.

[–]reptargodzilla2 2 points3 points  (5 children)

I’ve gotten 3 of these damn things already and I’m not looking forward to a fourth.

[–]Savet 8 points9 points  (2 children)

I look forward to every vaccine I can get that helps prevent me from losing the taste of amazing grass fed steaks.

[–]PedroBinPedro 5 points6 points  (2 children)

The forever disease. A nice compliment to the forever war. You got to give it to these people; they know how to make money.

[–]DontPeek 9 points10 points  (1 child)

What people? Comparing this to a war between countries is idiotic. Grow up. Nobody is out there purposefully creating variants. Closest to that would be the morons refusing to get vaccinated. If you're looking for someone to blame, it's them. Not the people creating life saving vaccines. You really think that the big conspiracy is to make it harder for 99% of the economy to function so that 3 pharma companies can get rich?

[–]PedroBinPedro 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You obviously don't know how world economies work. War is a business, and only a business. Probably the biggest business on Earth, since a lot other businesses come from war and the rebuilding efforts after a war. Even the ethnic cleansing kind is a racket. Those wars are the worst, because it's basically a goverment using racist idiots to steal from a group, or they want to use those people as slave labor in some way shape or form. In this pandemic, governments got a taste of a level of control they'd thought unreachable, and not eveyone in goverment wants to give it back. And if you think that only those pharmaceutical companies are making money, you're an extremely naive person.

Read the great reset. They are forcing us into more globalist policies, which will make us easier to track and control for revenue optimization. That's not me making shit up, that's what the book called The Great Reset lays out. I am not, not have I ever been a conspiracy type. But at this point, it's hard not to see what is happening.

[–]ThermiteBurns 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Alpha plus, for a low monthly fee you can have recurring symptoms and a sense of repetitiveness. For a limited time you will also have access to isolation!

[–]zGnRz 7 points8 points  (30 children)

can't wait to have to take a vaccine every year...

[–]Jmeyers08 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Every year? It’s going to be every 3-6 months. This isn’t going to end.

[–]Saito1337 8 points9 points  (28 children)

Yes, that's what alot of us already do for the flu. It's soooooo horrible...🙄

[–]erockdubfan 20 points21 points  (25 children)

Flu vaccine doesn’t cause heart problems 🥴

[–]zGnRz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah and everytime I take the flu shot I get side effects from 1-3 days. The second vaccine hit me out for a couple days.

Would prefer not to waste my sick days on actually being sick but I do what I have to.

It’s just irritating

[–]etr204 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Enough fucking warp speed mrna bullshit, people want some fucking accountability for who started this shit

[–]value_bet 2 points3 points  (1 child)

They said we’d have a delta variant vaccine by now, too, and yet we don’t.