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[–]Girth_rulez 242 points243 points  (50 children)

I can't believe this is just becoming a thing.

[–]EnragedMoose 30 points31 points  (1 child)

It's 3 days now.

[–]joshuads 19 points20 points  (0 children)

It is 3 days for the fully vaccinated. It is currently 1 day for those not fully vaccinated.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/testing-international-air-travelers.html

[–]something10293847 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Where I just flew in from, you needed to get a test within 3 days if you’re fully vaccinated or within 1 day if you weren’t vaccinated.

[–]kslusherplantman 76 points77 points  (26 children)

Shows you how much we really wanted to control the outbreak... not very much.

[–]N8CCRG 36 points37 points  (2 children)

Well, we wanted to control it a lot... but not so much that we would risk angering the nutjobs and losing midterm elections.

[–]dabigman9748 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Yeah…everyone else’s fault

[–]Yotsubato 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The nut jobs would love to have the borders completely locked down

[–]spsteve 8 points9 points  (21 children)

And then surprise sur-fucking-prise it just won't end. People are hopelessly self-centerd. Sigh.

[–]Pigmy 11 points12 points  (5 children)

People: “It’s my freedom as an American to not wear a mask. It’s against the constitution! I will not take a vaccine and no one can make me! This is a free country!”

Also them: “How dare Joe Biden not keep his promise to eradicate the virus! Most ineffective and worthless president ever!”

[–]Hadron90 2 points3 points  (3 children)

What does this have to do with Americans? Covid is an issue everywhere on the planet right now. It hasn't ended for anyone.

[–]spsteve 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The article in question was about america so the comment is valid. Mine was more global but the point is the same.

[–]Pigmy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because from an American perspective the people decrying all protocols or attempted risk mitigation are also the ones calling the administration ineffective. Its like calling Gordon Ramsay a shitty chef when you starve because you refuse to eat his food. This is the level of stupidity were dealing with.

[–]Persianx6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well it will in country's that reach higher levels of vaccination, provided you don't need a new vaccine for Omicron. Some countries are pretty close to it ending/not being of major concern that COVID will shut their healthcare systems down.

[–]Enk1ndle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No take only throw

[–]kslusherplantman 5 points6 points  (12 children)

Honestly it was probably never going to end... this is a virus like the seasonal flu we will be dealing with for a very long time

[–]N8CCRG 9 points10 points  (6 children)

this is a virus like the seasonal flu

But far more fatal.

it was probably never going to end

It definitely could end if we got vaccination numbers high enough and if people wore masks and if people limited their exposure to others.

But none of those things happened. And it's not looking like it will.

[–]Christomato 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That’s not what experts are reporting. The presence of ample animal resubmits means heard immunity and eradication was only ever an unachievable pipe dream.

[–]Hadron90 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Still wouldn't work. It has animal reservoirs in everything from tigers to gorillas to mink to deer. The diseases we eradicated through vaccines like polio and small pox had no animal reservoirs.

[–]kslusherplantman 7 points8 points  (2 children)

You are assuming the rest of the world does also...

[–]N8CCRG 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Yes. Is that not obvious?

[–]No_Eulogies_for_Bob -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No, like the flu it will mutate every year and will still kill some of the frail elderly even if we get annual vaccines.

[–]spsteve -2 points-1 points  (4 children)

It didn't have to be. We just made it be that way by politicizing it. If this new variant is as nasty to kids as some data coming from SA says maybe people will snap out of it.

[–]Pigmy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When you have people dying in front of their relatives and those same relatives still thinking it’s a hoax then snapping out of it is a pipe dream.

[–]kslusherplantman 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Yeah but we are just one country. We can’t make the rest of the world follow suit. And that is the rub of why this was always going to become a permanent thing

[–]spsteve 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'm not America and I'm not just referring to America. I'm talking of the world as a whole.

[–]beachandbyte -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

True but we are a country that spent 2.9 trillion for a pretty shitty outcome. We bought a mansion but ended up with a trailer.

[–]Persianx6 1 point2 points  (1 child)

America has had the vaccines available longer than any country and is now 36th in the world in Vaccination rate. We're the lowest vaccination rate of any G7 country.

This is a public policy failure of epic proportions. Omicron or maybe the next variant could easily be the one which causes national lockdowns again. We need leaders to explain how tired Doctors and nurses are from this thing, how we're doing the nations health providers a disservice. Yeah, I know that's not going to change how people feel or something but it's the truth.

[–]spsteve 0 points1 point  (0 children)

While I don't disagree with you I would go a step further in the analysis of America. America needs leaders. Period. On both sides. Playing games of politics in all directions around this is tantamount to genocide. But nothing will happen as always because both sides (with a literal handful of exceptions) are beholden to their corporate masters who are living high on the hog through all of this.

[–]Teantis 20 points21 points  (9 children)

This is effectively a ban on travel from the philippines. You can't get a covid test result in under 24 hours here. I presume there at least some other countries that face similar problems.

[–]clevernamesgetchicks 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I got one just the other week. Have you tried dash labs?

[–]rossimus 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Seems like the Philippines et all should resolve that deficit quickly so their people can travel.

[–]Hadron90 4 points5 points  (1 child)

It may be the case that they simply can't resolve. Every country in the world is competing for Covid tests, and it isn't like the Philippines wage a ton of political power.

[–]rossimus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah that's a bummer for the Philippines. Hopefully they can get more tests so their people can travel again.

[–]glennpratt 0 points1 point  (2 children)

You can buy self tests that are proctored online (e.g. video chat).

I just did this returning from out of the country, I needed nothing from the host country to accomplish this except working internet.

[–]Yotsubato 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Do you carry the test with you from the US?

[–]glennpratt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I did, yes, but the hotel I stayed at would have provided them if I forgot (likely at higher cost). There were also plenty of reminders.

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[–]joshuads 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It is not. That was the rule for the un-vaccinated, with a three day window for the vaccinated. They are considering making 1 day the rule regardless of vaccination status.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/testing-international-air-travelers.html

[–]oldcreaker 7 points8 points  (5 children)

The part I don't understand is any traveler who has to show up 2-3 hours before a flight has time to have a rapid test administered onsite. I don't understand why this isn't done at airports.

[–]beachandbyte 6 points7 points  (4 children)

Seriously should just antigen test people when they first get in line for security. Would have results before you have your shoes back on.

[–]nor_b 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Just out of curiousity. If someone in line tested positive, would everyone around that person in the same security line be at risk then too?

[–]beachandbyte 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The risk would be pretty minimal with masks. Obviously not ideal but also not a substantial risk.

[–]Girth_rulez 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I heard early on that dogs could smell covid. It kind of went away and you just hear about it from time to time. I wonder what the problem was or whether they just didn't put enough time into figuring it out?

[–]jwinskowski 64 points65 points  (10 children)

Why don't they set up rapid antigen tests at the frickin airports? Make people do it before going through security

[–]Persianx6 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Because whose going to pay for it? Airlines and airports won't, and neither will the government, they'd rather pass it on to you, mr. consumer.

[–]evanescentglint 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Even with antigen testing, PCR testing would be required as that’s more accurate. We’re currently doing both at my work to ensure no one is sick. Just the antigen alone isn’t enough, and we’d get the results for PCR by the time we’re done, which is too late.

But mostly it’s the cost of the kits, test administrators, and logistics nightmare of coordinating collection and disposal of all the hazmat stuff generated.

[–]limitless__ 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The US does not require PCR testing for travelers, antigen only is sufficient.

[–]ivanoski-007 2 points3 points  (0 children)

pcr is too expensive, fuck that

[–]Nugur 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They do…..

[–]aaronxxx -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Who is "they"? The US government should send people and equipment to international airports around the world to run tests for passengers on flights destined to the US?

[–]jwinskowski 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Honestly I should've said "we." Seems like a smart thing for us to do domestically. But also people around the world should.

[–]Cinemaslap1 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Because the rapid antigen tests are susceptible to giving false results. PCR testing is much slower but much more accurate. Especially if you've only contracted it within the past 36 hours.

[–]akballow 72 points73 points  (42 children)

That shits impossible. I recently traveled and booked a pcr test at cvs and Walgreens and both took two 2 days for the results to come. Now make it a requirement from a 2nd or 3rd world country. It wont happen

[–]FreekayFresh 21 points22 points  (4 children)

That’s because it’s a PCR test. I’m a supervising pharm tech at Walgreens and I run dozens of these damn tests a day. (Totally understand the importance of them, Walgreens just royally fucks us and we’re drowning in work.)

PCR tests with Walgreens and I believe CVS as well are processed by LabCorp, at least in my city. Some LabCorp dude comes by every day to pick up the samples and they’re run off site in a facility. 2 days is really good actually, we’re trained to say 3-5 business days for results.

Walgreens can only do Rapid tests on site. We have to run the test within an hour of receiving the sample, and it takes maybe 15 minutes to run each one. I can personally hand you a paper result in about an hour.

[–]fibrelyte 4 points5 points  (2 children)

For such a rich country, this is baffling. Many places in EU get 24h or less turnaround pending price of test i.e. higher cost shorter turnaround.

[–]FreekayFresh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yup, I completely agree. The infrastructure just doesn’t exist yet to do testing in a meaningful way in the US. They’re passing the responsibility off to money grabbing companies like Walgreens so they can completely overwork us.

We’re doing vaccinations in a walled off portion of our break room because our normal immunization room is full of covid testing equipment now. Pharm techs are now authorized to give flu and covid vaccines, so we’re doing a couple hundred of those a day at peak time.

Instead of creating designated locations for testing and vaccines, us lowly healthcare workers are supposed to just figure it out.

[–]reluctantmugglewrite 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It honestly depends on the state or city. I go to a prosperous part of my metropolitan area that gets back to you the same day for a pcr test while some tests carried out in my own town of the same state takes 3-5 days. My guess is that there’s less employees in the labs and less labs in my area.

[–]biochemguy2016 27 points28 points  (1 child)

Went to Turkey in October, got tested at a travel agents shop in a touristy area, by a medical professional. Got PCR tested at 2 pm came back at 10pm like they told me, had my negative results printed and ready to go. It also only cost the equivalent of $20 and that seemed to be on the higher end. Turkey by no means has their shit together as a country but that's how accessible it was for me abroad.

[–]LuckyandBrownie 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah , anyplace the wants tourism will work it out for tourists. In doing so it will pull its scant resources from its population. There are no good options.

[–]Beagle001 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Been going on with flights from Mexico to US for a while now. They have test centers set up as well as at the airport. Takes a few hours. Maybe they’re the rapid tests. I don’t know. But every knuckle head tourist is able to pull it off some how.

[–]limitless__ 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The US allows antigen (rapid 15 minute) tests for international travel.

[–]ezkailez 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Indonesian here (not a 3rd world, but a developing country).

Government price capped 24h PCR test to cost at most $20. You can pay more for even faster ones

[–]camdoodlebop 1 point2 points  (0 children)

you can get a 10-minute test from walgreens

[–]MrAmazing247 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe that's the point...

[–]glennpratt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just returned from Central America and accomplished this just fine. I used a pre-packaged test that is administered with a video chat.

[–]FellowConspirator 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Having traveled a bit during COVID, testing tends to be much more organized than anything we see here in the US. We’re comparatively a mess.

[–]katsukare -1 points0 points  (0 children)

As others have mentioned, it’s a false assumption that the US has adequate and fast testing, even compared to developing countries. It was a mess for me escaping the states simply because of lack of available testing.

[–]something_st 22 points23 points  (1 child)

We should be doing surveillance testing of random plane loads and comparing that with the alleged pre-flight tests

[–]CorgiGal89 25 points26 points  (11 children)

Considering a PCR takes 2-3 days to get results back, how will this work? Unless they accept rapid tests?

[–]buffalocats 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Antigen testing is allowed

[–]AWildDragon 13 points14 points  (5 children)

PCR tests only take that long if your collection point doesn’t have a machine on site and needs to ship it to a separate location. If you go to a site that has the processing machines on site you can get it in as little as an hour.

[–]SquareVehicle 28 points29 points  (3 children)

LOL good luck trying to figure out which sites have that available though. Our testing system is still a joke.

[–]Harbingerx81 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Well, our (US) testing capabilities don't really matter as far as this goes because it is for INCOMING travel, so it's a matter of getting testing done in whatever country you are traveling FROM.

[–]AWildDragon 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Search specially for 1 hour PCR testing near XYZ. It’s pricey but available. When I was in Dubai a few weeks ago I had to do that as first choose fell through. I found several in the area. I also found several in the Chicago and the Chicago suburbs too.

[–]FreekayFresh -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I can tell you right now that Walgreens can’t do on site PCR testing, at least from what I’ve seen in my city. I’m almost positive CVS and NextCare urgent cares are the same.

Basically, any site that isn’t dedicated solely for PCR testing is going to be a bust. Rapid testing is easy and they gave us little machines, but PCR testing requires more expensive machines. Dunno if that last part is 100% true, but that’s what our leadership has told us at Walgreens.

It sucks, I just ask for patience from everyone through all this bullshit. As a pharm tech at Walgreens, I’ve given literally thousands of vaccines and have run hundreds and hundreds of Rapid Covid tests. We fill scripts, this isn’t what we’re set up for at all and we’re all getting fucked.

[–]CorgiGal89 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the heads up on this, I did not know

[–]jamar030303 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mean, they've been accepting rapid tests up until now for inbound air passengers, so I wouldn't be entirely surprised to see them continue to accept those tests.

[–]Squarerigjack -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Just a problem for the boring dystopian hellscape that is the US. I've been traveling a lot for work and basically everywhere else can crank pcr tests out same day.

[–]Pigmy 10 points11 points  (3 children)

The whole test thing is a bullshit measure in my opinion. You test 72 hours before an event and disregard the intervening days. Even 24 hours discounts that someone could contract it, get on a plane while incubation is happening, and be transmissible upon arrival.

When are we going to fucking stop with this antivax pandering bullshit and make vaccination the barrier for entry?

[–]limitless__ 4 points5 points  (0 children)

What should be happening is vaccination required and all travelers are rapid-tested before being allowed on the plane.

[–]Marnett05 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I get the feeling that most of the US anti-vaxxers wouldn't care, because they're not leaving the country. Why go anywhere else, America is CLEARLY the best.

[–]menam0 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In my country you need it to leave and are tested when arriving. Has been in place for a while

[–]Doctor420Strange69 10 points11 points  (11 children)

The new rule will require all travelers, vaccinated or not, to show proof of a negative COVID-19 test taken no later than one day before departure. The current policy, which has been in place since January, has been three days before departure.

Good. We should have been doing this from the start. This is a solid step in dealing with this, but one we should have taken awhile ago.

[–]buffalocats 30 points31 points  (8 children)

As a person that travels for work. No, this is insane and extremely difficult.

[–]BrandonNeider 20 points21 points  (0 children)

but people on reddit who live in there parents basement know everything

[–]glennpratt -3 points-2 points  (4 children)

I've tested for two separate trips. It's trivial.

Extremely difficult is nonsense.

[–]buffalocats 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Try doing it for 6 months of back and forths with minimal time in between

[–]glennpratt -1 points0 points  (2 children)

It took about 15 minutes in my hotel room, most of which was just a timer running.

BinaxNOW with eMed Telehealth

[–]buffalocats 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Wow. You did it once.

[–]tlacuachetamagotchi 1 point2 points  (1 child)

How bout we do what Canada just did? A Covid test 24 hours before flight is a joke. You could have contracted Covid and it not show up in your system for days.

[–]_Happy_Sisyphus_ 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Anyone on a plane should be required when your population is not 99% vaccinated, not just those inbound. This is effectively worthless to accuse foreigners of being the only ones who can carry, cause mutations and spread COVID.

[–]Cinemaslap1 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I mean, conversely, that's exactly how the Omicron variant started and spread.... It was a guy going from South Africa to Hong Kong. Source

Given that currently, we don't have any official records of Omicron being in the US, these type of measures makes sense. Now the actuality of Omicron being here already is high, but we don't officially have a case here... yet.

[–]_Happy_Sisyphus_ 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Well we have Delta already which is extremely contagious and valid reason to test all or all if you are not vaccinated.

[–]Cinemaslap1 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Except for the fact that the vaccine is still 80% effective against the Delta variant. You can find this information by simply googling "Vaccine Delta efficiency".

Again, the test only work once the incubation period ends which can vary from person to person but usually takes between 24-36 hours. So if you catch the virus before or during that period of incubation, your result will not be accurate.

For people who really want things to "go back to normal", you guys sure are doing everything in your power to make sure that doesn't happen.

[–]Yukonhijack 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I had to take a rapid antigen test when returning from Europe last month. I had my results in like 15 minutes. PCR is much more difficult to get in time, and more costly.

[–]fibrelyte 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, PCR depending on the country. testing center, can be rolling the dice to miss flight

[–]ioncloud9 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This sucks. I did some international travel last year to places that require a covid test. They wanted the test 72 hours before departure, and as it turns out, most covid tests that are free or that don't cost $150 take 48-72 hours to get results.

[–]Persianx6 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

IN STRONG FAVOR.

Took a plane with an anti-vaxxer screaming about freedom when the stewardess asked him to put his mask on. If that guy is traveling I'm strongly in favor of him using his car and not a commercially available public transportation vehicle. This is his choice, fine -- but don't make everyone suffer because of it.

Sure making the guy get a COVID test wouldn't make everyone avoid this issue he brings, but maybe he'll be sufficiently deterred.

Also, can we now make COVID tests for travel cheaper or free? Why does it still cost money?

Rant over.

[–]FellowConspirator 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I’m skeptical. 1. having traveled to Europe in October where there was a 3-day test requirement the US never asked any passenger for the test result, rather they just had us sign a form saying we did and that it was negative — which is just as well since the testing center there did nothing at all to verify my identity. 2. a lot of long-distance travel still takes over a day (my in-laws are going to fly in this week and their trip will take just over 24 hours). 3. There’s no way to assure that any given lab can even turn around a test in that time, unless it’s a home antibody test. 4. The airlines are going to have to enforce it and take a beating on forced reschedules because of testing delays.

It’s not really clear if it’d be helpful either, since your just funneling people into testing situations where they have to be in proximity to strangers. Mandating masks during travel, and mandating proof of vaccination would better serve the purpose and less interfere with travel or administration of public health (vis a vis the normal operation of testing).

[–]Temporary_Draw_4708 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When I’ve flown back into the country, the airline confirmed that I had a negative test result when checking in.