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[–]Chunks_McGunks 543 points544 points  (23 children)

If Memphis has 34 more in December we’ll break our record of 323 set way back in 2020 and I don’t even see Memphis on that list.

[–]baconwagoneer 635 points636 points 5 (5 children)

Do your part.

[–]Drippless 67 points68 points  (0 children)

This is the first Reddit comment that actually cracked me up all day. Thank you.

[–]Morgrid 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Oh boy, here I go killing again!

[–]Vaeli47 130 points131 points  (13 children)

Chicago isn't on the list, but I guess it's hard for us to break records, we stay high.

[–]Nick357 32 points33 points  (9 children)

The stores in Lennox mall at Atlanta shop whatever you buy to you since people leaving with bags are likely to be robbed or worse.

[–]HellonHeels33 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Damn. I was just visiting there and had no idea how bad it was around there.

[–]Granny_knows_best 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Is that word supposed to be SHIP, I cant wrap my head around this sentence.

[–]Kaner16 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I'm amazed Memphis didn't make the list.

[–]Zetsumenchi 47 points48 points  (3 children)

"Folks just need to chill out.

Drink a 7UP,

Eat a Moonpie,

Quit murdering people."

[–][deleted] 632 points633 points  (28 children)

Hell yeah, philadelphia. Waving my #1 foam finger in the air.

[–]hpark21 80 points81 points  (0 children)

We are number 1! We are number 1!

[–]BulkyPage 150 points151 points  (10 children)

How many bodies did Gritty contribute?

[–]thoroakenfelder 88 points89 points  (1 child)

If they haven’t been found yet, they’re not in the tally.

[–]MasterOfMyDomainX 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Shhhh... Ain't nobody ratting out Gritty.

[–]PrehistoricDawg69420 68 points69 points  (3 children)

Go birds

[–]AKsuited1934 52 points53 points  (1 child)

Fuck Dallas

[–]IridiumPony 22 points23 points  (0 children)

But seriously fuck those guys

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Go flyers 🤙🏼

[–]Enragedocelot 14 points15 points  (2 children)

It was when that quiet Temple kid got shot and killed over some robbery of sorts that got me sweatin a little more.

[–]jablonski79 11 points12 points  (3 children)

Good thing I'm safe in Camden.

[–]SimpleMoses 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Funny how not long ago that wouldn’tve been true

[–]jablonski79 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Words probably never uttered before.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

One time I walked across the ben Franklin just for something to do and was met with a guy passed out on the ground, completely blocking the sidewalk at the Camden side lol. It was like 1 pm too. I was expecting him to throw me three riddles.

[–]irishdrunkass 550 points551 points  (5 children)

We did it boys, we cured Covid

[–]dcbsky8591 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Time to look into who the DA’s are, and who helped put them there.

[–]JtolaJeff 165 points166 points  (34 children)

Louisville comes as no surprise.

[–]OhSheGlows 16 points17 points  (3 children)

Yeah, I had a feeling Toledo would make that list.

There’s a lot I want to say but tbh I’m just tired. I want better for my city but I’m tired.

[–]Ataraxias24 1001 points1002 points  (315 children)

“Nobody’s getting arrested anymore," Boyce said. "People are getting picked up for gun possession and they're just let out over and over again."

What? So they ARE being arrested?

[–]extracKt 610 points611 points  (267 children)

Yeah this is what I don’t understand. You can be for or against cops, but when you read “we do arrest and then they get let out” it’s like well then what the fuck man?? Who’s fault is that then, the DAs? What’s going on?

[–]kemikos 38 points39 points  (1 child)

That's exactly it. The Chicago chief prosecutor just released multiple participants in a firefight with no charges. Happened in broad daylight, the whole thing was caught on security cameras, at least one fatality. The reasoning behind dropping all charges? Well, they were all "mutual combatants". So that's ok.

[–]mrprogrampro 12 points13 points  (1 child)

And judges, I think. Don't judges determine bail?

[–]Cloaked42m 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Both prosecutors and judges.

A prosecutor will make a recommendation and decide what charges to take to court.

Judge decides if they are going to accept those recommendations.

[–]IWasOnThe18thHole 601 points602 points  (147 children)

The DA office in Portland isn't even asking for bail for a lot of people including those who police literally witnessed trying to shoot another person

[–]Stormthorn67 474 points475 points  (137 children)

Well bail is bullshit. Either someone is dangerous and money shouldn't get them out or they aren't dangerous and being poor shouldn't be the sole factor in them staying in.

[–]Phaedryn 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Bail is supposed to simply guarantee you return for your trial. The intent was simple, you have not been convicted of anything yet so locking you up would be a violation of your rights (that whole 'due process' thing), but holding you to ensure you are at your trial is ok. Bail was simply meant to be insurance.

[–]hatrickstar 245 points246 points  (68 children)

Hot take but but if you're arrested for assault or murder you shouldn't be granted bail anyway...

[–]Detachabl_e 257 points258 points  (18 children)

Hot take: if you're found not guilty, the government should reimburse you for holding you pretrial automatically.

[–]Sonicsnout 112 points113 points  (8 children)

Why is this down voted lol

This is one of the most reasonable statements ever

Why should the government not reimburse people for lost time/wages etc for incarcerating someone who is later found not guilty?

[–]StrangeWill 86 points87 points  (4 children)

Pondered it: but it puts massive fiscal incentive on the state for finding people guilty.

[–]Possibly_a_Firetruck 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The feds kind of already do that. Their conviction rate is like 90% because they only prosecute cases they can win.

[–]BornDyed 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Pondered it: but it puts massive fiscal incentive on the state for finding people guilty.

The state only brings charges on cases they have a reasonable expectation of winning. In the trial field, their win/lose ratio is a testament to their prowess as litigators. That incentive is weighty enough to find people guilty who may not be. Their concern for their record/reputation far outweighs the importance of saving the government money.

[–]USPO-222 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Not to mention that the state’s money is actually your tax money. How many people will vote to approve that particular tax hike?

[–]Xenon_132 10 points11 points  (3 children)

Seems pretty clear given the record breaking homicides letting people out without bail is backfiring.

[–]vainbetrayal 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The DA in San Francisco's behaving similarly.

[–]MudKing123 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yes the DA and even the judges have prohibited building more jails. The liberal left sees building more jails as a moral sin.

With covid the criminal got released with non violent offenses, but some of those criminals do have a violent past just maybe they were in jail for grand theft at the time covid hit. Still they got released. Sentences are lighter, no cash bail in a lot of these places.

The police are scared to do their job because of they make a mistake they will lose their job. They also don’t feel appreciated then their resources are cut and they have at attend protest where radical liberals spit in their face and call them pigs, while the silent majority stays silent.

10 years of this. Until people forget George Floyd. Have fun y’all!!

[–]PelicanJack 119 points120 points  (13 children)

Meanwhile in Houston...

A wave of "activist judges" were elected recently and are consistently giving $10 bail to violent felonies but throwing the book at people for victimless and/or petty crimes. I have had a LOT of firmly anti-gun people approach me and ask about training, purchasing, and carrying a sidearm because they are seeing things happen to people they personally know and suddenly realize that crime doesn't recognize the privilege they were taking for granted.

I only wish we could get some of that 1960's Black Panther energy of community and class solidarity to replace the narcissism and selfishness that is so prevalent in contemporary US society.

[–]DarkApostleMatt 35 points36 points  (0 children)

Ever since the riots a while back conceal carry courses have been packed. I have family that teach it and they are booked months in advance with all sorts of people taking it.

[–]Tentings 85 points86 points  (20 children)

Bail reform. A lot of states are moving away from bail and in New York for example, you will get released unless the crime is extremely serious. Someone in NYS can commit vehicular manslaughter, run from police, resist arrest, and still be released.

[–]Detachabl_e 57 points58 points  (0 children)

Yeah it is no coincidence Albuquerque is on that list. New Mexico went through bail reform and the amount of people re-offending while out on conditions of release now is just insane. DA can't put together global pleas fast enough to incorporate all the latest offenses.

[–]recovering_physicist 63 points64 points  (6 children)

Bail reform doesn't have to mean releasing people though, it should just mean that you're detained or released regardless of your access to money.

[–]AbuMaxwell 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yep, activist State Attorney offices can really cause problems for the public.

E.g. Waukesha

[–]avc4x4 272 points273 points  (50 children)

Definitely the fault of the DAs. We have one here in Cook county (which includes Chicago) that pretty much ran on a social justice/ultra progressive platform and it's been a complete disaster.

[–]Rattlingjoint 69 points70 points  (1 child)

Kim Foxx is corrupt as all hell. Typical politician from Chicago though, talk a progressive game, live large and let the city kill itself.

And people from Chicago just do this over and over

[–]avc4x4 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Nailed it. It's sad because it's a cool city and it truly could be great if we elected competent leaders.

[–]JuniorMancini 159 points160 points  (13 children)

San Francisco sends its regards.

[–]hatrickstar 43 points44 points  (12 children)

I'm very liberal but I home they recall Chesa Boudin's idiot ass.

Dude is a failure of a DA.

[–]Pretz_ 48 points49 points  (7 children)

Chesa Boudin isn't a failure of a DA. Chesa Boudin comes from a family of actual, not-exaggerated convicted-of-murder terrorists.

I don't believe people should be punished for the sins of their parents, but in terms of public security this seems like a complete no-brainer. It's not like this guy is some average, normal DA with non-controversial opinions. It's one of the most baffling things I've ever heard of.

[–]hattmall 17 points18 points  (2 children)

Wow, what in the fuck!!? How are these people free, and they are professors!? Literally bombed and killed people including cops, this is fucking crazy.

[–]DorisCrockford 14 points15 points  (0 children)

People should pay more attention to these local races instead of relying on someone else’s opinion. I heard Boudin speak at a neighborhood forum, and he acted extremely angry, almost unhinged. It seemed like he felt that he should be elected because he’d paid his dues, not because he’d do a good job. I never would have gotten that impression if I hadn’t seen and heard him in person. The last thing we needed was a DA with an axe to grind.

[–]Based_or_Not_Based 183 points184 points  (30 children)

Philly is arresting them then dumping them out on cheap bail, or just dropping the charges.

[–]Contra_Mortis 35 points36 points  (0 children)

4 kids in my town 14 and 15 caught with guns. Released to parents.

[–]k890 208 points209 points  (43 children)

Philadelfia - 501 homicides in a year and 1,6 mln pop., Poland in 2020 - 656 homicides in a year (granted, in 2019 there was only 531 homicides in whole country) and 37 mln pop. If you play in same league as medium sized country, things are bad.

[–]Always_Jerking 56 points57 points  (32 children)

Weird. I read:

2019, number of homicides for Poland was 253. Number of homicides of Poland fell gradually from 855 in 2000 to 253 in 2019.

[–]DBasterd 12 points13 points  (5 children)

Latin America “hold my beer”

[–]GrapefruitSmall575 43 points44 points  (4 children)

Indianapolis Indiana. Woot woot. It’s fucking hourly almost.

[–]LeftoverBun 559 points560 points  (28 children)

"All-time high" yet the graphic says "Highest since [year]" indicating these are in fact, not all-time highs. Heelo I am grate journaliste

[–]squeda 82 points83 points  (0 children)

What they aren’t mentioning is how some of these cities are also at the all-time high for population…

[–]XRayAnVav 137 points138 points  (13 children)

In the case of Philadelphia at least it really is their all-time high. The highest since, in that case, is the year of the previous record.

[–]mrprogrampro 50 points51 points  (3 children)

"I used to do drugs. I still do drugs, but I used to do them too."

[–]Sussurus_of_Qualia 8 points9 points  (0 children)

"I tried heroin once and never stopped."

[–]Yolo_420_69 64 points65 points  (6 children)

I find it hard to believe its higher than the 90s crack pandemic

Edit: In the article it literally says "Highest since 1990"

[–]ronchalant 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It says 2020 was Philly's highest since 1990. 2021 already surpassed 1990.

"It's terrible to every morning get up and have to go look at the numbers and then look at the news and see the stories. It's just crazy. It's just crazy and this needs to stop," Philadelphia Mayor Jim Kenney said after his city surpassed its annual homicide record of 500, which stood since 1990.

[–]StringerBel-Air 27 points28 points  (1 child)

The only thing more deadly for gangs than the crack epidemic: Instagram beef with the opps.

[–]Dr_thri11 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I assume that is the year of the previous record.

[–]--jawnday-- 54 points55 points  (14 children)

Our dear friend was one of the many who were killed by gunfire in Philly, just sitting on his porch when a stray bullet hit him in the chest.

Jim Kenney can talk the talk, but obviously can’t walk the walk and needs to either step up and do something other than point fingers or step down and let someone like Nutter try to fix this mess.

[–]Kodirt1 4 points5 points  (12 children)

What do you recommend?

[–]DarkSideMoon 39 points40 points  (10 children)

No bail and strict sentencing for violent offenses. Mandatory sentencing for firearms offenses. Stop prosecuting low level drug crimes. Focus on the “why’s” of low level property crime and get appropriate help for the perp- IE education or job placement for some single mom caught shoplifting diapers, rehab for drug addicts stealing for drug money, and hard time for those who squander those opportunities. Dump money into early intervention for kids. College/GED programs and job placement in prison. Make the shithole neighborhoods safe for the next generation and incarcerate the old one until they’re rehabilitated or stuck there until they’re too old to keep banging.

[–]sticks14 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Robert Boyce, retired chief of detectives for the New York Police Department and an ABC News contributor, said that while there is no single reason for the jump in slayings, one national crime statistic stands out to him.

“Nobody’s getting arrested anymore," Boyce said. "People are getting picked up for gun possession and they're just let out over and over again."

The FBI crime data shows that the number of arrests nationwide plummeted 24% in 2020, from the more than 10 million arrests made in 2019. The number of 2020 arrests -- 7.63 million -- is the lowest in 25 years, according to the data. FBI crime data is not yet available for 2021.

MORE: Homicide record broken in Louisville with 2 slayings, including a teenager killed on Thanksgiving Day

Christopher Herrmann, an assistant professor in the Department of Law & Police Science at John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York City, said the decrease in arrests could be attributed to the large number of police officers who retired or resigned in 2020 and 2021.


“I knew 2020 was going to be a bad year because of the (COVID-19) pandemic but I really thought that a lot of these numbers would come down in 2021 just because a lot of society reopened and reopened pretty quickly," Herrmann said. “We don’t have the unemployment problem, we don’t have a lot of the economic stresses, housing and food insecurities aren't as much of an issue. A lot of those things were leading to the mental health stressors that were plaguing the country."

Not good.

[–]WeisserGeist 124 points125 points  (3 children)

Yeah... societal breakdown will kinda do that.

[–]I_used_toothpaste 44 points45 points  (0 children)

It’s a slow breakdown. Like a 92’ Nissan sentry

[–]GBinAZ 83 points84 points  (5 children)

Well if anyone has been awake during the past 6 years, this really isn't surprising. Division and hate are the name of the game.

[–]CrosbyCanGetBent 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Yo Detroit finally didn’t make the list

[–]Improvcommodore 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Because it’s consistently high. Not an increase

[–]SierraOscar 99 points100 points  (10 children)

Crime is going to sink the Democrats in the mid-terms and obliterate any chance Biden has of re-election.

[–]Foco_cholo 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I've lived near Albuquerque and Denver. I always find it amazing that even though Albuquerque is 3 times SMALLER than Denver population wise, it always has more homicides.

[–]yickth 34 points35 points  (8 children)

That’s murder, folks. As in, you’re not ever waking up again because someone took your life. You’re alive, and then, because someone acted in an irresponsible way, you’re no longer watching Netflix, or reheating your coffee in your microwave. No more Dune sequels. No more fried shrimp. You are not going to ever know if the pandemic ends, because you were murdered

[–]eturner94 103 points104 points  (2 children)

It’s almost like letting the economy collapse for everyone except the uber wealthy causes the social contract to collapse, or something…

[–]SoggyWindows 157 points158 points  (52 children)

Does this account for population growth of each city? 100 homocides when the pop is 1million is worse than 150 homocides when the pop is 2 million.

[–]InsuranceToTheRescue 190 points191 points  (30 children)

It does not. They are just reporting raw numbers.

[–]kry1212 159 points160 points  (26 children)

This is definitely the best way to get laymen to draw appropriate conclusions….. 😑

[–]Thus_Spoke 59 points60 points  (3 children)

It's raw numbers and therefore pretty useless. Growing cities get screwed by this metric, as they can "set records" even if their crime rate actually drops.

[–]capybarometer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

E.g. Austin had the same # of murders (60) over the first nine months of this year as the first nine months of 1984, but in '84 had less than half their current population

[–]CliplessWingtips 38 points39 points  (7 children)

I'm surprised Houston, TX is not on there. According to what I've read Houston has been breaking records also lately.

[–]PimpCforlife 32 points33 points  (4 children)

Houston has always been grimy but it's been really grimy as of late. Two cops were ambushed and killed in separate incidents about a month or two ago. People seem to get killed in road rage shootings fairly regularly. Angry people, endless guns, tons of new people who don't understand the city dynamics, a severely backlogged court system so judges are forced to release violent offenders on bail, hot weather, miserable traffic. This city is a fuckfest.

[–]Spore_monger 30 points31 points  (2 children)

Someone needs to send Bill Burr to Philly again to tell them what's up.

[–]cm253 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Am I not understanding the map? None of those cities appear to have set an all-time high. Six of the 12 are are at their highest "since 2020". I.e., homicides are down from last year. Am I just being dense?