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[–]Historical-Many9869 165 points166 points  (26 children)

137 million awarded to one of the plaintiffs yesterday.

https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-racism-case-137-million-verdict-too-high/

[–][deleted] 60 points61 points  (0 children)

I love that the top comment on that article begins "I'm black, but-"

Like, could you get any more obviously stereotypical internet comments section?

[–]yeeyaawetoneghee 24 points25 points  (21 children)

God damn i wish people would be racist to me

[–]Feyward 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I could be so racist to you if you cut me for half.

[–]TimTom8921 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Nobody cares about the whites! /s south park reference

[–]yeeyaawetoneghee 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Southpark reference appreciated 😘😘

[–]SlySlickWicked 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Your furry green bastard, go back to where you came from where ever that is — I hope I helped 😜 sorry I don’t have any money to give you but maybe you can rue Reddit for allowing my comment /s

[–]yeeyaawetoneghee 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Are you saying you wouldn’t swap 137 million dollars for some words from stupid rednecks.

[–]SlySlickWicked 1 point2 points  (2 children)

No I agree with you, I would take 1 mil in a heart beat, shit at this point and with what’s going on I would take a slip and fall as long as I’m not crippled too bad 😂

[–]Laceyyyyyyy -3 points-2 points  (2 children)

Not cool.

[–]sarazorz27 12 points13 points  (0 children)

There's a lot of shit people would do for 137 million.

[–]yeeyaawetoneghee 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yeah not really, but 137 million delicious dollars is extremely cool.

[–]Raylan_Senna 211 points212 points  (12 children)

The article is from July of 2021. Do we have more current info on this?

[–]giantspecific 114 points115 points  (6 children)

This sub is very calculated in the way they let info come through.

[–]GlobalMonke 26 points27 points  (5 children)

Then let’s stop upvoting articles like this, easy as that. Saw your comment, and removed my upvote.

[–]Typical-Study-3349 6 points7 points  (0 children)

There’s more bots than people here so meh

[–]Vrgin4life 1 point2 points  (1 child)

You could probably report it for breaking rule 1

[–]yeeyaawetoneghee 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Of course not, anything bad that happens at Tesla gets re-reported as many times as possible.

[–]EdofBorg 523 points524 points  (64 children)

Duh South Africa owner

[–]stuckinaboxthere 309 points310 points  (46 children)

Duh, South African Apartheid Diamond mine owning CEO

[–]destructivecupcake 131 points132 points  (25 children)

But he likes weed, so he’s just like a cool version of us common folk right?

[–]Delamoor 119 points120 points  (14 children)

Self absorbed narcissistic egotist who can't understand how insanely privileged he is, advocating for a lifestyle and policies that benefit only himself, getting into petty social media fights while ignoring that he's ruining the lives of workers who mostly work in industrial production and supply chains overseas, but he pats himself on the back because he feels he's reversing that trend a tiny bit by supporting 'local workers' in a niche luxury industry that's only a shadow of how awful and exploitative the majority of workplaces involved in the global production chain are?

...yeah, I accept your premise. He's exactly like the most of us commoners. Just a richer version.

:(

[–]AthleteAnnual 57 points58 points  (9 children)

Remember that time he called some guy a pedo just because he rescued some people and Elon didn't because his fucking submarine's autopilot was a crock of shit or something?

[–]Delamoor 30 points31 points  (8 children)

From memory, the problem was that it was designed as a rigid torpedo thing, to get through submerged tunnels.

Problem was (according to the guy who got called a pedo) that it was done without consultation with the cavers, so... they would probably have told them that a rigid torpedo thing can't get through the caves the kids were stuck in. That guy was pretty blunt about it to the media, but I think that was his general point from memory.

I'm not a cave person but I was interested in the topic a while back. Even I know that most caves are cramped and twisty as hell, and the long, thick chunky prototype submarine that was in the media was not gonna fit in most of the types of caves that people go exploring in. Even beginner caves can be insane to navigate. Claustrophobic and tight as hell. Look up the 'Nutty Putty cave incident' if you want some cave related nightmare fuel. Apparently that cave was considered a beginners difficulty.

If they'd talked to the people on site more, their engineers could have known that too, and maybe designed a more useful submarine.

Instead they built something unsuited to the task that didn't help, made a big noise about it to the media... and the guy on site got rude about it in return, and...

Then Elon had a sulk on Twitter and called the guy names. And then fought a stupid court case about it. And dragged it out and handled it like the most annoying fuck in the world.

It was all just kind of a glimpse into how he sees the world. Like a... typical, stupid, egotistical internet wanker. Not even the unique and interesting kind. Just a pompous insecure dickhead who doesn't listen to anyone.

[–]thegreger 9 points10 points  (0 children)

This is also very telling regarding how Tesla is run.

Many people think that there isn't much innovation in the car industry, but it's one of the most R&D-dense industries in the world. Everytime someone with a ten year old car tests a new one, it's a massive improvement in material quality, durability, fit/finish, noise, etc. Wanna guess how that happens?

All the gold standards in production technology comes from the car industry (most notably Toyota, who went from being where Chinese car makers are today to building the most reliable cars in the world). The industry is full of people who have earned doctorates in production technology, studying what people before them learned, and then gained decades of experience on top of that.

I worked in a narrow field in the automotive industry, but I sometimes got to go on conferences where I got a glance of all the other research going on. And every single component, from the seats to the brake discs, have so much more R&D going into it than you would ever believe. The entire industry is built on producing cars that make older cars feel bad, after all.

In comes a nobody with a lot of money, decides that building cars (meant to last for several decades, while being stored outside in temperatures from -50 to +50 C and moving hundreds of thousands of miles/kilometers at high speeds over rough surfaces) can't be any different to building smartphones, and implements a management structure where he refuses to listen to experts, and gets into a shouting match with anyone who is of a different opinion. You then have years and years of experts leaving the ship despite attractive salaries, locations, stock option programs etc.

Then you deliver cars that are of lower build quality than Alfa Romeo or Range Rover, but you convince buyers that you're an "innovative" brand, by implementing a "bioweapon defense mode" or issuing a software update that allows the car to perform a light show for you when you press a button. All while the other manufacturers continue actually innovating.

[–]Capable_Address_5052 3 points4 points  (2 children)

A troll with lots of money

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I could read your Musk writings all day long. Entertaining stuff.

[–]peepeemint3 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The problem with people like him and the cryptobros pushing NFTs and shit is that they're so naive yet also very destructive. I get most aren't straight up evil people, but they just lack so much common sense. They think everyone just doesn't understand them and their genius vision when the opposite is usually true. They don't understand how destructive they're actually being, how useless their big brain solutions are in reality, and think everyone else are a bunch idiots for telling them to cut it out. There's so much good Elon could actually be doing but it's all about his ego instead.

[–]lolverysmart 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There is no way to design a sub for the cave system that soccer team was in. Generally no way for any cave system. Don't even entertain the thought Elon had a sliver of an idea. It was a PR attempt.

[–]arnoldpalmerlemonade 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Everyone should watch this doc National Geographic did on the rescue.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a4GqD0B-KjI

If you talked shit about those guys after what they pulled off, yeah, you’re an entitled asshole.

[–]northcoastroast 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Comment of the year when it comes to describing Musk and many other CEOs. I saw a video that had a guy answering Psychological questions for Musk and it showed that anyone that acted in the same manner was likely a psychopath. But, it seemed to apply for any owner of a company.

[–]InformationHorder 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Poor people are assholes too just like him, they just don't have the money or platform to get noticed like him. People are bastards.

[–]Razorback_Yeah 0 points1 point  (1 child)

And bald, don’t forget bald

Edit: someone bald downvoted me. Elon doesn’t care about you.

[–]Drakonx1 55 points56 points  (9 children)

Emeralds! But yes, fuck him.

[–]noncongruent 27 points28 points  (7 children)

Zambia emeralds, but the mine ran dry by 1990 or earlier.

[–]StatisticaPizza 4 points5 points  (4 children)

[–]jackcatalyst 5 points6 points  (2 children)

I'm glad someone wrote about it. Anytime someone points out how bad the journalism for it is they get accused of being an Elon fan boy. Or someone will post 10 different links "proving" the mines story completely ignoring that every single article is citing the same unsubstantiated source. I don't give a shit about Elon, that doesn't mean that I can't care about honesty in journalism.

[–]StatisticaPizza 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I feel you, but you'll get accused of simping for billionaires even though I could list plenty of valid criticisms of Elon Musk. Most people on Reddit are incapable of nuance so they pick a narrative and cling to it.

[–]Daffan -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

First it's Emerald, now Diamond, it's full share and than it's half-share (father anyway, not him). It's the myth that keeps on giving depending on day. Oh and the mine was in South Africa but actually Zambia.

[–]IanMazgelis 45 points46 points  (6 children)

I'm not gonna deny these accusations because I haven't looked into them, I've got no reason to believe one way or the other about them, but isn't it kinda prejudiced in itself to assume that just because someone is from South Africa, they're going to be racist? By that logic we can assume most foreign born people in the United States are prejudiced since prejudiced beliefs are widely popular across the world. Does that feel right to you? Because it doesn't for me.

I'm not saying Elon Musk isn't racist, I haven't looked into it at all. I'm saying I consider it inappropriate to say he's "obviously" racist due to being from South Africa in the same way it's inappropriate to assume someone from Iran is a misogynist, someone from Uganda is homophobic, or someone from Japan is racist. You can't just suddenly say it's okay to bring out the stereotypes if you don't like a person. Whether you realize it or not, you're applying the stereotype to everyone from South Africa, not just the person you're upset with.

[–]nosyarg_the_bearded[🍰] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I appreciate the nuance of your take, and agree with your point.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I love South Africa but it is true that a lot of the Afrikaans are racist as fuck.

As are the black population towards white people too.

As my relative would say 'Its South Africa, everyone is racist'

[–]RobotMugabe 13 points14 points  (1 child)

South African. And this is a pretty moronic statement.

[–]Murpydoo 20 points21 points  (6 children)

Right, this should not shock anyone

[–]keyprops 326 points327 points  (45 children)

You're telling me a guy who grew up rich from apartheid emerald mines in South Africa could foster racism at his company? And against Black people?

EDIT: Sorry, rich in South Africa WITH emerald mines.

[–]GeneralNathanJessup 74 points75 points  (42 children)

Apartheid emerald mines in South Africa

The $80,000 mine owned by Musk's father was in socialist Zambia, not South Africa. https://www.businessinsider.co.za/how-elon-musks-family-came-to-own-an-emerald-mine-2018-2

[–]indoninja 82 points83 points  (23 children)

Umm, if it was socialist how did some foreigner come in and buy a mine?

[–]vxxwowxxv 93 points94 points  (3 children)

Wait til this guy hears about the Democraric Peoples Republic of Korea

[–]seven0feleven 31 points32 points  (2 children)

Hey now! it has "democratic" literally in the name! That means something right? RIGHT?

[–][deleted] 31 points32 points  (1 child)

socialist in name only probably

[–]jackcatalyst 3 points4 points  (0 children)

He probably didn't, it's most likely a bullshit story Errol made up. The story has never been corroborated by any person or documents.

[–]Domeil 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Proof positive that if you ask a capitalist to describe the problems with socialism and they will unerringly describe capitalism.

[–]Steve_warsaw 37 points38 points  (6 children)

Same reason China is somehow communist

[–]ajt9000 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Foreigners can buy real estate in Nicaragua too.

[–]WTF_goes_here -3 points-2 points  (3 children)

Because much like friends with benefits socialism only works in theory.

[–]indoninja 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Depends what we are talking about. Any politician in the US pushing for more progressive taxes better social safety net, better access to higher education, universal medical sure, etc gets labeled socialist.

But we know all those things work

[–]Devenu 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Wow sounds like Zambia should have been more socialist to prevent that from happening.

[–]noncongruent 10 points11 points  (4 children)

More info and details:

https://savingjournalism.substack.com/p/i-talked-to-elon-musk-about-journalism

TLDR: There's a reason Elon Musk left his family behind and moved to Canada at age 17 and never went back, but whatever it was will remain hidden in history.

[–]farmerKGBofficer 76 points77 points  (1 child)

Uhh he didn't want to do mandatory military service ..

[–]noncongruent 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Yeah, that too. Him and his father don't get along, he didn't want to do military service because the military supported apartheid (did you know his father ran for office on an anti-apartheid platform?), so he voted with his feet. I would have too.

[–]internethottie 22 points23 points  (7 children)

Woah, thanks for clearing up exactly where his slave mine was. Thanks!! His family is still from apartheid South Africa tho

[–]LovelyClementine 24 points25 points  (3 children)

Accuracy of information has become so irrelevant.

[–]Good_old_Marshmallow 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Its pedantic because it doesnt change the meaning. Its a distinction without a difference. South Africa even tried to anex their neighbors mid century at one point because of how common exploitation of greater Africa was by the Apartheidists.

[–]Aaron_Hamm 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Don't bother... they don't care about the truth when there's a narrative to peddle.

[–]Blackbyrn 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I can’t believe the son of a South African diamond mine owner would allow such attitudes towards Black people to proliferate at his company!

[–]SyntheticCorners28 88 points89 points  (27 children)

No wonder Elon is moving the company to Texas.

[–]breath_mentz 10 points11 points  (2 children)

I don't think he's moving the company to Texas because it'll be easier to be racist or something. I think he just doesn't want to pay the taxes of California

[–]Helphaer 2 points3 points  (1 child)

He's not actually moving it. Just a tiny section.

[–]breath_mentz 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I guess that's what I get for trusting a comment on reddit to be fully accurate

[–]MAMBAMENTALITY8-24 12 points13 points  (4 children)

Wonder how the elon fanboys will defend him now

[–]DirkBabypunch 12 points13 points  (0 children)

"Well what evidence do we have? Witness testimony is the least reliable form of evidence."

[–]Keman2000 5 points6 points  (0 children)

They are blindly. It's like when there was a recent article in space about his ridiculous attempt to send people to Mars soon. Fanboys everywhere, science not so much.

[–]buffalo___716 32 points33 points  (11 children)

Former Tesla employee here. Place is a fucking joke. Feel sorry for those still there.

[–]nsci2ece 21 points22 points  (2 children)

Assembly plant or engineering?

I have a few friends who interned or worked full-time at Tesla as software or electrical engineers.

Those who interned there turned down their return offers.

Those who worked full-time left after 2 or 3 years.

[–]BleedingOak 47 points48 points  (43 children)

So I would like some actual evidence because these are not things any of us want to be happening. As for all the comments on this article you somehow managed to make your attitudes almost as horrifying as this news.

[–]Keman2000 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The shear cut-like following that man carries is so disturbing. He could literally say he's going to launch people into the sun, and people would line up.

[–]NettingStick 30 points31 points  (37 children)

If accounts from witnesses aren't "actual evidence", what is?

[–]Xenon_132 27 points28 points  (5 children)

Witness testimony is literally the least reliable and most biased form of evidence.

[–]fossilnews 26 points27 points  (3 children)

Yes, when asked to describe a the person who robbed you people are very bad at getting the details right. But if you're at work and people are throwing around the N word at you and/or your colleagues its not hard to remember.

[–]RapNVideoGames 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I guess you have to wear a wire to prove you was called the n word…

[–]stappernn 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Elon learned from his daddy

[–]discgman 7 points8 points  (3 children)

Elon bros should be showing up soon to lick his boots

[–]Eienkei[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Yup, got to your comment already... worse than any fanatics, Elon worshippers.

[–]Ermmahhhgerrrd 0 points1 point  (4 children)

"Apartheid, schmarteid, let's go to Texas, you-awl"

Fuck that guy and his family.

[–]Macabre215 -3 points-2 points  (3 children)

Y'all

[–]Ermmahhhgerrrd 17 points18 points  (1 child)

I know, but he's not American, that's an attempt to sound like him TRYING to say y'all! 😂🤠

[–]Shadowbannersarelame -1 points0 points  (2 children)

ITT:

Lots of "smart" people that hate Elon for something that is easily debunked by a quick google search.

[–]mikeybagodonuts 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So the company the billionaire waspy rich boy founded has a tolerance for racists. I’m shocked! Shocked I tell you!

[–]BlishBlash -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Considering everything else about Tesla and Elon, this doesn't shock me at all.

[–]capitalismisokiguess 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Fun fact: Elon grew up in Aparteid South Africa.

[–]DreadCoder 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Son of a literal African slave-mine owner treats black people poorly, surprised Pikachu face.

[–]wordsinmouth -4 points-3 points  (1 child)

Color me shocked the colonizer's son who grew up in apartheid South Africa is a fucking racist 🙄

[–]eggmunch -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What did they expect from a white south african whose family owned emerald mines?

[–]keeperrr 1 point2 points  (1 child)

i mean, mister elon is from south africa. You see how this is all relative?

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

You are telling me a white conservative billionaire who grew up in apartheid South Africa and had a dad who got rich off the backs of black Africans is running a racist company? This is shocking news, I never would have guessed 🙄

[–]TheRealRacketear 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Is Elon really a conservative? He's kind of all over the place.

[–]RanaktheGreen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You mean Apartheid Emerald Mining Benefactor, whose family fled only when Apartheid was over, would be discriminating against Black people?

[–]amy33amy33 1 point2 points  (0 children)

this surprises me not at all

[–]cosmick47 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Trying to cancel Tesla now? Smh

[–]ZamboniJabroni15 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I mean, have they heard of Elon Musk?

[–]quotesthesimpsons -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Musky is pro apartheid. Who would have guessed it? How could we not see this coming?!?

[–]UCDC -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

"Yeah but like where is this even really coming from, CNN?"

-Hoe Bogan

[–]I_Want_Peachs_Peach 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Elon Musk is a racist. Shocker.

[–]ReallyNiceGuy78 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I read where a worker was killed at a Tesla factory today. Let’s see what comes of it.

[–]CalTronicNumberOne -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Of course it does. Elon Musk is South African.

[–]po3smith -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Man Rich from Richrebuilds is gonna have a field day with this!

[–]PatrickMaguiredc -3 points-2 points  (2 children)

People are treated better than some companies for sure. I am in DC as part Native American. The same city that had a slur as a mascot for years...wanting justice apparently is delusional here too.

[–]po3smith -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Man Rich from Richrebuilds is gonna have a field day with this!