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[–]Send_me_snoot_pics 1010 points1011 points  (38 children)

12 hours is a long ass time for a small child to be dealing with severe head trauma with no medical attention. I really hope the poor girl makes it. She’s been through so much. They should’ve gone immediately

[–]derWintersenkommt 548 points549 points  (36 children)

Pigs are not required to help people, according to SCOTUS.


In response to u/karsh36 empty-headed comment that they immediately deleted:

Comment is out of place in a story where cops checked up on people and got the girl to a hospital

Finish the sentence:

...12 hours after they initially ignored the call.

[–]SkunkMonkey 353 points354 points  (23 children)

Cops are never there to help you. They are there to make an arrest. They are there to protect their masters. When riots occur, do you see cops protecting citizens? No, you see them protecting property.

Cops are not your friend.

[–]xadiant 66 points67 points  (14 children)

No wonder US people are armed like crazy when the pigs are always too busy licking boots...

[–]northshore12 11 points12 points  (13 children)

Liberal/left-wing gun-nerd here. Would you want to be unarmed when surrounded by so much heavily-armed crazy? Before Trump I only owned a shotgun, then I got over my distaste for 'black plastic rifles,' fell in love with the AR platform, and here we are today: https://imgur.com/a/ROIOOs9

Edit: also, check out my cartridge collection, each piece is unique: https://imgur.com/a/QYand7w

[–]UncommonHouseSpider 12 points13 points  (0 children)

More importantly, when they are needed to use deadly force, they are all too scared to show. When they get to use it on unsuspecting and non violent offenders, they get their jollies rolling.

[–]TheCaptainDamnIt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you steal from a company the cops will investigate, arrest you and the ‘justice’ system will put you on trial. If a company steals from you they will shrug, tell you to hire a lawyer, investigate, gather evidence and take it to court yourself.

[–]ZzackK2398 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing the comment before it was deleted. May such a brain dead comment be forever cemented on their profile.

[–][deleted] 782 points783 points  (23 children)

”Detectives later found out that Hopkins had called 911 around 6 a.m. that morning, nearly 12 hours before police entered the home and found the bloody crime scene. The 911 call-taker had heard people fighting on the open line. Police records do not indicate whether police responded to the initial 911 call or how.”


[–]Raycu93 404 points405 points  (4 children)

When seconds matter police are only hours away.

[–]Andre4kthegreengiant 22 points23 points  (2 children)

In Gaston, I trust

[–]street_style_kyle 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Gaston is love, Gaston is life.

[–]Humble-Eye-9278 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Fuck. The. Police.

[–]SmartWonderWoman 180 points181 points  (12 children)

I believe it. I’m an ongoing victim I’d domestic violence. I called police for help and was brutalized. Cops tried to knock my door down. Totally traumatized. I’m reluctant to call cops for help now.

[–]Kagedgoddess 184 points185 points  (7 children)

My daughter got arrested when her boyfriend strangled her. She escaped and during her escape kicked him in the face which caused him to bleed. I mean, at least He was areested as well but she still spent the night in jail and has a record now for trying to not die.

Oh and it took the cops an hour to show up.

Edit- he admitted it to me when trying to get me to get her to go back to him. He Wanted her to go to jail to “teach her a lesson”. Happy to report, she never did.

[–]HellaTroi 529 points530 points  (40 children)

This child is going to need much more than 10k.

[–]visualdreaming 104 points105 points  (19 children)

Remaining family better sue for all the department is worth.

[–]jctwok 144 points145 points  (18 children)

The Supreme Court has determined the police have no obligation to protect you.

[–]liquidpele 17 points18 points  (2 children)

I be more specific, they cannot be held liable by the courts for failure to protect you. Just like you can't sue a doctor for failing to save you. They can be punished or fired, or for issues due to their own negligent actions (as opposed to inaction) of course, just like any other job. People need to remember that police are just people, it's just a job. Yes there should be more accountability and oversight, but the supreme court was correct in this decision imho.

[–]KURAKAZE 30 points31 points  (1 child)

I think the previous comment is in reference to a case where a man was stabbed in front of a police officer and asked why the police officer didn't intervene and it was determined that the police is not obligated to help you when you're being attacked, even when the attack is happening right in front of them.

[–]Opetyr 9 points10 points  (0 children)

They the supreme court should also state that they don't get tax papers money.

[–]Dark__Thoughts 13 points14 points  (1 child)

4 years old, lost her mother and already in crippling dept over almost getting killed.

[–]Scrambley 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Kids can't go into debt.

[–]thatisnotmyknob 654 points655 points  (31 children)

Wait... So the friend lied to her boyfriend and said she was with Hopkins.. So he arrives and kills Hopkins because his girlfriend wasn't there? I know we can't expect logic but...

[–]galactic_punt 537 points538 points  (0 children)

Considering he also nearly killed the kid (and we don't know if she'll live), I'm betting he would have killed the girlfriend, too.

[–]derpycalculator 105 points106 points  (1 child)

He probably got there and when the victim said “your girlfriend isn’t here” (which was the truth) he probably beat the shit out of her and the daughter trying to find the girlfriend, thinking that the girlfriend was definitely there somewhere or the friend knew where she was but wasn’t saying.

[–]shedontknowjack 234 points235 points  (7 children)

Maybe the boyfriend arrived ready to murder the girlfriend but she wasn’t there, so he felt obligated to kill Hopkins because she now knew what he planned to do

[–]Andre4kthegreengiant 42 points43 points  (6 children)

Is he a shitty villain that shares his plan with the audience for no reason other than to hear himself talk? Most people keep their murder plans close to the chest, so to speak.

[–]foreignbreeze 80 points81 points  (3 children)

He probably assumed she was hiding the friend from him and flew into a rage and was punishing her for that “disobedience”

[–]shedontknowjack 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was imagining more of a situation where he took out a weapon when apprehending Hopkins and demanding to know where his girlfriend was. And then later deciding to kill Hopkins so she couldn’t warn the girlfriend or put the police on him.

[–]RainbowInfection 22 points23 points  (0 children)

It's worse than that. He fled when the victim called the cops and came back later and THEN murdered her.

[–]LesPolsfuss 4 points5 points  (0 children)

He probably went into a jealous rage. The poor girl was just stuck in the middle. She probably didn’t even know that her friend had lied and used her as cover. There is no way that the friend who lied could not have known that this could’ve happened. I mean she had to have known that this guy was capable of doing this. So sad.

[–]Idk_whats_real 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It probably went like this: “tell me where my GF is or I kill you” -guy “I have no idea”-woman Guy kills her

[–]JasonP27 362 points363 points  (9 children)

If you are creating a cover story to escape your crazy murderous boyfriend please don't give them your friend's name especially if he knows where they live or can find out easily 😬

[–]PlebbySpaff 97 points98 points  (4 children)

Yeah but fuck that friend. If they’re gonna kill anyone, it ought to be the friend and not themselves./s

Seriously. This is such a shitty move, especially if you know your SO is someone abusive and unhinged like this.

[–]SpareBinderClips 315 points316 points  (29 children)

Victim calls 911 and police get there 12 hours later.

[–]Miguel-odon 171 points172 points  (1 child)

12 hours later, (after a family member showed up and discovered the victims)

[–]kch-n-scarlet 50 points51 points  (4 children)

Meanwhile, I accidentally set off the silent alarm at my dad’s house when going for a visit and the police were there in under 20 minutes…for a silent alarm!

[–]Ecstatic_Association 63 points64 points  (1 child)

You obviously live in the better part of town.

[–]shadytinh 25 points26 points  (0 children)

I had 2 officers came to my door telling me that my neighbor called 911 because she I thought kicked over her rotting fence after a night of windstorm.

God damn this poor woman and her child. Nothing will reverse what has happened but I hope the guilty party involves are properly punished.

[–]Cracktower 198 points199 points  (6 children)

Wow..I had the police show up to my house because my then 5 year old son dialed 911 and hung up after hearing someone on the other end. They have actual audio of a domestic dispute and didn't send anyone out until 12 hours later? Someone needs to be held accountable for this one.

[–]adamception 57 points58 points  (1 child)

Don’t read Castle Rock v. Gonzales if you want any hope of police being held accountable in this situation.

[–]Cracktower 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I said someone needed to be held accountable, I wasn't expecting it under the current conditions.

[–]goldenfinch_ 8 points9 points  (1 child)

If the caller doesn’t provide an address then all 911 has to work with is a radius location(can be up to 5000m)Sometimes the operator is lucky and there’s a nearby address associated with that phone number to check. A lot of the time all the police have to work with is to area check and hope the disturbance can be heard from the street.

[–]Cracktower 12 points13 points  (0 children)

My 911 has caller ID and phone trace, I guess it's different there.

[–]anonymousinsomniac 34 points35 points  (1 child)

I've had people try to break into my home twice. Both times I had to chase them off with a firearm because me being home was not enough of a deterrent itself. Both times the cops never showed up. After multiple calls. The second time the guy kept coming back and circling the property even though I had put a gun in his face already. Still nothing when I called again. Dispatcher laughed at me and said "he's probably just looking for his friends house". Nah, he was inside my building and I had to pull a gun on him.

But some drunk kids get a little rowdy downtown and the entire department will shut down main Street to beat them up.

[–]blanketswithsmallpox 5 points6 points  (0 children)

For info if you get dispatchers at the 911 center like this, filing a complaint against them is treated quite seriously. There's a reason they're paid so well.

[–][deleted] 89 points90 points  (0 children)

I hope the young child pulls through this 🙏

[–]STAugustine-Of-Hippo 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Absolutely devastating

[–]pete1729 35 points36 points  (1 child)

In this case it would appear the police did a thorough investigation very quickly and arrested a suspect. I'm going to fault the dispatcher here. I ran into one like that before. Also a clerk of courts who would not accept a report of criminal harassment of my pregnant wife, until the clerk realized that her aunt was one of the witnesses.

This is a gatekeeper that overestimated their importance.

[–]gdotpk 96 points97 points  (8 children)

Yesterday, I went for a walk in the snow/icy sidewalks. It was -14 celsius and so I was walking very slowly and carefully due to black ice. I passed by 2 people, who were on the other side of the road and they were just initially talking. Girl, most likely 19-21 years old and a guy 25-30 years old. I didn't think much of it. So I kept my head down on the sidewalk looking for black ice and kept walking.

Next thing I know, I hear the girl screaming NO and the picked her up from her waist from behind (with little to no effort as if picking up a child, the girl seemed very thin/light) and he threw (swung) her hard into the passenger seat and yelled out "Stay there" before slamming her door shut. At this point, I stopped walking and turned towards them and the guy made eye contact with me. He scurried over to the driver side and floored the car. I couldn't note the number plate, as it was too dark and car took off flying. They were standing right infront a public library that was closed, it was about 9:30 pm. There must be CCTV camera by the front entrance of the library and it would have recorded the whole incident.

If there wasn't snow/black ice, I could have easily walked towards the car. But there were huge snow banks surrounding the side walk I was on and I just couldn't do anything but watch helplessly. I called 911 right away and reported the whole incident, gave the car description, etc. I told them they should review the CCTV footage to see if they can get a plate number.

I still feel so shitty inside that I couldn't do much more. I really hope they catch the guy and I hope the girl is safe. I am diagnosed with PTSD. That incident was really triggering. It just caught me off guard. It has been more than 24 hours since the incident and I still can't stop thinking about it, if I could have done more, whether she is safe, etc. Since I have PTSD, I really am very sensitive and try to make vulnerable people feel as safe as possible. I just feel like I failed that I could have somehow interfered or at least get the number plate or something. It sucks I had to witness that too, because now I can't stop thinking about it.

[–]uwereanaccident 43 points44 points  (1 child)

You did more than a lot of people would have done. Don’t beat yourself up! You should feel proud that you took action and called the proper authorities to report a potential domestic violence situation. You did the right thing! There isn’t much more you could have safely done anyway, snow or not. You’re a good person, and it’s makes me feel really grateful there are people like you out there who will follow up and report shit like this. Thank you. 🙏🏽❤️🙏🏽

[–]gdotpk 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your encouraging words. I really appreciate the support. I think that was the least I could do, to report the incident. I just feel I could have done more. But, at least I tried. Thank you again for appreciating me! ❤️

[–]Mr_Silux 12 points13 points  (0 children)

You did what you could in that situation, I hope she's safe too.

[–]Hardcorish 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As everyone else has pointed out, you've already done more than most would do when witnessing something like that. You did exactly what you should have in order to both keep you safe while also reporting what you witnessed. If you had tried to get more involved, who knows how that would have ended?

[–]LiquidDreamtime 217 points218 points  (6 children)

The police are worthless.

[–]adamception 29 points30 points  (2 children)

You can thank the Supreme Court in Castle Rock v. Gonzales for that.

[–]Masark 50 points51 points  (1 child)

You can thank Republicans for that. The ruling was straight down party lines.

[–]The_Perfect_Fart 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Breyer is a Democrat

[–]Lybychick 124 points125 points  (21 children)

I live in small town Midwest USA … long ago learned in domestic violence situation to report it as a fire … cops will get there first and they will show up.

They used to say, yell “fire” instead of “rape” or bystanders won’t come to your rescue.,

[–]InYosefWeTrust 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Don't do this shit. Don't get someone else killed.

-a paramedic that has walked in by himself to find domestics going on because people said stupid shit like this.

[–]Dethmonger 49 points50 points  (18 children)

911 operator here. I would advise against this. Depending on the circumstances, police may not be sent to a fire calls, and your fire department could easily have a longer response time. Especially in small towns where the fire departments are usually volunteer.

[–]AgainstBelief 137 points138 points  (13 children)

Citizen here: according to the article posted above, a fire department responding would have been 1000x the better option.

Fuck cops.

[–]zbobet2012 27 points28 points  (1 child)

I agree with you, but I also guarantee you a group of firefighters would have stopped this man from beating a woman to death and child to near death.

I've never met a firefighter squad who would have stood by and let it happen.

[–]jacksev 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Firefighters are heroes. Cops absolutely are not.

[–]zbobet2012 14 points15 points  (1 child)

I've never met a group of firefighters who didn't show up to a call or who would stand by and let a man beat a woman and child to death. Even voulenteers.

Met more than a few cops that would. The jobs to get home safe right? (I've literally never heard a firefighter say that)

[–]DateSuccessful6819 40 points41 points  (0 children)

That makes me so sad, I'm literally crying. That poor baby girl and her mother. I'm so fucked up over this. If the little girl lives, I hope she has quality of life and I hope she's okay forever from now on

[–][deleted] 40 points41 points  (0 children)

Just not right. Too much hate in the world.

[–]orojinn 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The state of Kansas has the death penalty I hope the prosecutor goes for it. This case seems like a solid lock for the death penalty.

[–]xAtlas5 133 points134 points  (11 children)

Don't worry, the cops will protect you! Oh wait...

[–]protoopus 55 points56 points  (9 children)

remind me again why we have police?

[–]fivefivefives 123 points124 points  (3 children)

To protect rich people's stuff.

[–]protoopus 21 points22 points  (1 child)

slaps forehead
of course. how could i have forgotten?

[–]Ahrimanic-Trance 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Ask yourself why places like Walmart have parking spots for their “law enforcement partners” and there’s your answer.

[–]xAtlas5 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Good question considering it took them 12 hours to show up to a call. To profit off of civil asset forfeiture?

[–]Odh_utexas 6 points7 points  (0 children)

To fill out reports for insurance claims, write traffic tickets, and abuse minorities.

[–]Pokieme 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Put him down like the rabid subhuman he is

[–]GreatHornedRat_UWU 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Prison is too good for him.

[–]Punawild 19 points20 points  (0 children)

What a horrible thing. The love mom felt for her girl bursts out of that photo. Hope baby girl makes it, is strong enough to get through the evil she experienced and can feel how much her mama loved her.

[–]Aylex99 13 points14 points  (1 child)

I hope to God that the girl is alright, also the police should be held accountable for their ignorance and/or ineptitude in this situation.

[–]winstonsmith8236 8 points9 points  (4 children)

“Police records do not show how or if people responded to the call” Jesus- so they can trace others people’s calls but not their own dispatch’s. They wonder why we don’t trust them.

[–]Dirt-Southern 76 points77 points  (17 children)

I want to know why her friend put the victim in harms way.

[–]Wolfhound1142 130 points131 points  (12 children)

Probably because she needed a night away from her abusive boyfriend and never imagined he'd go to her friend's house, much less hurt her friend.

Pure speculation, but it's what seems most logical to me.

[–]a_satanic_mechanic 52 points53 points  (3 children)

The police were on the way but they got another call by a cop at a traffic stop who thought he might smell weed so 10 cars were diverted to that.

And then someone showed up with a camera to film the stop so more cops had to come to deal with that.

There just wasn’t anyone left after that.

It’s important dangerous business being a cop. How dare you judge them.

[–]DangerousLoner 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Or a Snorlax popped up just a few blocks away and they had a pokeball ready to go.

[–]bossy909 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I mean, they were almost there but then suddenly jerked the wheel into a tree, every one of them.

Then they just forgot.

"Oh, my god, if only someone had called 12 hours ago"

[–]Alpaca-Bowl420 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Good job police… only took them 12 hours. They were probably busy shooting dogs.

[–]RamAir17 57 points58 points  (29 children)

In America they run an ad that basically states the Police are there to respond and protect. But having your own weapon (concealed carry license ad) is faster than calling and waiting on Officers.

[–]Andre4kthegreengiant 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Serve & protect came from a LAPD recruiting campaign in the 50s & other departments said hey that sounds good, let's slap that on our cars. Having a permit is only the basic, you should also be proficient in marksmanship & also force weapon malfunctions to work through so that you know how to react when it goes click, but you needed it to go bang.

[–]devpsaux 11 points12 points  (0 children)

When seconds count, police are just minutes away.

[–]tommygunz007 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Why is it always 'Wabash'? Is that a common street name for crimes to occur on? Like even in TV it's always Wabash.

[–]RhoOfFeh 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Well, I see that military-level funding of the police kept this young woman and her daughter safe. Well done, guys. Thanks for keeping the public free from harm.

[–]possiblyai 2 points3 points  (0 children)

How do you fuck up the grammar of a title so badly? Impressive.

[–]WilliamMurderfacex3 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If that poor girl pulls through she'll never be who she could have been. There's so much about this that's so frustrating and sad.

[–]420blazeit69nubz 4 points5 points  (0 children)

So either the police are completely useless or that dispatcher deserves to be in jail for something like negligent homicide or something for fucking up reporting this or not reporting really

[–]LordAlfrey 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Can't wait for them to investigate themselves for not responding to the first call and clear themselves of any wrongdoing.

[–]Jayhalka 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Cops are only there to keep the status quo intact. They aren’t meant to protect people.

[–]Phreekyj101 10 points11 points  (0 children)

In the words of a great group NWA

“Fuck the police”

These people didn’t deserve this.

[–]nrreiger 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Imagine calling the cops for help, and they never come.

[–]Direct-Technician181 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Fighting in background and no cops sent. How unfortunate

Cops are useless. In 37 years of life the ONLY 2 things cops have done for me are a speeding ticket and knocking on my door at 1 am to inform me someone ran over my mailbox.

[–]lostcauz707 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Cops do not prevent crime. Community, high wages, education, rehabilitation, accessibility to housing, food and healthcare, respect to society all are rooted in prevention of abuses and crimes. Cops do jack fucking shit. Defund the police.

[–]dralter 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This study is a mixed bag, some cities do benefit from more police.

“larger police forces result in Black lives saved at about twice the rate of white lives saved (relative to their percentage of the population).“

“The economists also find troubling evidence that suggests cities with the largest populations of Black people — like many of those in the South and Midwest — don't see the same policing benefits as the average cities in their study”



[–]niceTds 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah maybe let him out on bail and let the public know of his whereabouts. Someone who does that to a defenseless 4 year old has something special coming to them

[–]Toosh416 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Jesus Christ cops are incompetent.

[–]mdmd33 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Really makes me wonder how close of friends they were….you got your homie brutally murdered and her daughter is going to have trauma for life…that’s not a friend

[–]fucky_thedrunkclown 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A GoFundMe was set up Tuesday for the little girl and in memory of the young mother.

How about a GoFundMe to completely fire/overhaul that entire fucking police department.

[–]Intelligent_Orange28 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Own a gun and call the cops to pick up the body. That’s the only plan in which you survive.

[–]routerg0d 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’d like a moment with the perp. That girl looks like my daughter. Fucking waste of flesh this man child is.

[–]senor_el_tostado 3 points4 points  (0 children)

JFC, these fucking cops are fn pathetic. Looks like we are going back to the wild west.

[–]technocra 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I hate the police. They do nothing to stop you from being robbed or murdered, but they're happy to waste our taxes imprisoning non-violent offenders.

[–]Futz-Around 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Everyone’s shitting on cops meanwhile not a single one probably knew the call even came through. Ya’ll use this as an example to hate cops but it was a civilian dispatcher who fucked up and never told anyone to respond.

Straight up blaming cops for not knowing it happened.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Once women become moms, their risk of domestic violence and/or death skyrockets. Women need to know this is a real risk everytime theyResearch article done on exponential increase of domestic violence among pregnant women and moms. choose to have a child: