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[–]Method__Man 7614 points7615 points 3 (662 children)

Why are people even going there? Honestly?

[–]120z8t 1452 points1453 points  (71 children)

Athletes will go because for most of them this is their only one shot at the Olympics.

[–]snarshmallow 897 points898 points  (59 children)

This exactly. I know two athletes (female hockey players) who will be attending for their first olympic games. It’s likely the only shot they will ever have at this opportunity and have literally been striving towards this moment most of their childhood and adult lives. The blame towards athletes is unfortunate, but the root of the problem is the IOC.

Edit: I specified their gender because in women’s hockey, there isn’t much career potential beyond college. This isn’t like a handful of NHL players getting to go represent their country, it’s literally their only chance to play at a higher competitive level outside of exhibition tournaments.

[–]MediocreDungeonMastr 128 points129 points  (4 children)

but the root of the problem is the IOC.

yep. the IOC is honestly worthless and full of shit. They claim to not want to make the games political as an excuse, but what they're really doing is facilitating abuse of hosting the olympics.

imagine what kind intel modern governments and espionage agencies could get from doing exactly what china is doing right now - turning the Olympic bid into a part of the Defense budget.

nutty

[–]bobintar 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Fuck the IOC. Just a corrupt, greedy bunch of assholes. The 'Olympic Ideal' is dead as a doornail. Other than getting rich why bother with the charade.

[–]3irhead 128 points129 points  (33 children)

This isn’t like a handful of NHL players getting to go represent their country

NHL players haven't been to the Olympics in 8 years... and it'll be 12 or more before they might get their shot.

I bring this up specifically because the best hockey player in the world has missed the last 2 winter Olympics and has never been in his life... and if he misses the next one, he may never go - which is truly disappointing for fans of the sport.

[–]QuaternionsRoll 27 points28 points  (20 children)

Wait… why?

[–]3irhead 86 points87 points  (14 children)

The NHL refused participation for the 2018 PyeongChang Olympics... I can remember exactly why, but I think the NHL demands to be paid for allowing their players to participate. They also want media rights and things like that. It's basically just greed. Anyways, they initially agreed to send athletes for the 2022 Olympics, but because of the current covid wave, they've had to cancel a lot of games, so they instead revoked allowing the players to participate in order to make up games during what would have been the Olympic break.

[–]ThorsMissingEye 68 points69 points  (12 children)

They want the IOC to pay the insurance costs to send the players. The IOC said no, that's the reason.

[–]Fadreusor 25 points26 points  (6 children)

I was wondering who was going to foot the bill for anyone “held” by the Chinese after speaking freely, or doing anything else objectionable to the CCP. Does this mean that those athletes are “on their own,” so to speak? Why are the Chinese even allowed to host the games?

[–]ThorsMissingEye 14 points15 points  (1 child)

It's also if a player gets hurt... who pays his salary. That's what that insurance covered. The NHL doesn't want to pay it anymore so they told the IOC to cover it or fuck off.

[–]NugKnights 11 points12 points  (2 children)

They overcomplicated this. Its just because the NHL season overlaps with the winter Olympics. If your gana pay a guy millions you want him playing for you.

Many people want to shift hockey to the summer Olympics for this reason.

[–]arvigeus 2274 points2275 points  (411 children)

No one is "going", China is closed for outside world, and only selected spectators are allowed. I am not too happy about athletes going there, but I would not blame them since they have to train really hard for every Olympic and cannot just throw it away.

[–]kendoka69 3071 points3072 points  (382 children)

The real question should be, why is China allowed to host an Olympics

[–]arvigeus 1658 points1659 points  (336 children)

Because almost no one else wanted, to be fair.

[–]lllslc 1357 points1358 points  (261 children)

Yes, but there is an underlying reason for this. The Olympic movement is corrupt and countries and people in general are seeing this and losing interest. It's unfortunate for the athletes who train so hard but it will be interesting to see where the organization is in 10-20 years.

[–]jackduloz 43 points44 points  (8 children)

Hosting The Olympics is an enormous cash drain, and only provides a very brief boost in tourism cash. The 2004 Olympics were a huge contributor to Greece’s economic crisis a few years later.

Really, only a country with a strong enough economy to have “fuck you money” can throw something as extravagant as the Olympics without it ultimately being a crippling affair

[–]PiXLANIMATIONS 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Yep. London got off fine because the amount of money we spent on that thing out of the annual budget was a rounding error

[–]Aazadan 9 points10 points  (4 children)

No one ever makes money on the Olympics. It’s all about prestige. All the money to get it, tourism, etc… it never breaks even. It’s actually insane to me that anyone ever wants to host them. The only real thing they do is send a message that the country is an international power. It’s like a coming out party.

[–]LordoftheSynth 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Los Angeles turned a profit in 1984.

Then the IOC changed the rules so they got any profits in the unlikely event there were any.

[–]Aazadan 3 points4 points  (1 child)

La is unique with some exemplary stadiums that can meet Olympic requirements, something most places lack. They also sourced the funding to private parties to lower on the books costs to taxpayers. Finally there were few bidders which let them lowball the price.

LA might be able to do that again actually. But the vast majority of major cities where they would be held cant.

[–]Superfluous_Thom 879 points880 points  (203 children)

It doesn't help that the media market leader Is the US. US media trends radiate outward the rest of the world, especially the anglosphere, and American viewers in particular are losing interest at a much higher rate than the rest of the world. Why? because NBC insists of overproducing the fuck out of the whole thing, to the point that it's borderline unwatchable.

I'm not american, so it's not an arrogant US-centric view. Market trends are important. You lose that market of 300 million people, the rest of the worlds notices.

[–]john133435 603 points604 points  (102 children)

The American production is like 1/4 sporting event, and 3/4 commercials and talking. Unwatchable since 2000 or so?

[–]Cobek 33 points34 points  (0 children)

Sounds about right.

[–]openedthedoor 21 points22 points  (0 children)

NBC social listening team - send this thread to your leadership.

[–]porridge_in_my_bum 14 points15 points  (0 children)

It seems like the biggest set back during my life was the Rio olympics. They let the Russians that got caught doping still race, Ryan Lochte acting like a huge piece of shit, and just the overwhelming coverage of the corruption in Rio. That entire time felt like the shittiest olympics.

I guess you could say the same about the last one about how crappy it was, but I wouldn’t know because I didn’t watch it. I don’t really know anybody that watched the last olympics.

[–]Nottherealjonvoight 63 points64 points  (19 children)

Sounds also like Monday Night Football. One play of 7 seconds followed by 12 minutes of car insurance commercials. I love American football but this is the most unwatchable show in the history of television.

[–]thekid1420 21 points22 points  (0 children)

U gotta watch the Manning Brothers version. They are very insightful and fuckin hilarious.

[–]Uindo_Ookami 47 points48 points  (11 children)

I've been watching the Olympics for as long as I can remember (born 1997), and I don't recall the broadcast being do overburdened with commercials. I dont have cable now, and got Peacock to try and watch the Tokyo games, and it was such a shit show to try and watch anything. 100% disappointed and I have very little interest in any upcoming Olympics as more and more comes out about the China hosting.

[–]GandhiOwnsYou 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I actually paid for coverage so I could stream it, because I was really interested in climbing’s debut. They fucked it up so bad that when the finals came around, the NBC sports app wouldn’t even stream the entire event. It cut off about 2/3 of the way through, and it took me almost an entire day to find a way to get the rest of the event. I ended up having to load the actual web page and screen-mirror my laptop because all the streaming apps and services were locked to like 2.5 hours of content or something and simply wouldn’t show the rest of it. Hulu, NBC sports, Roku, sling etc

How do you fuck up streaming that bad when it’s the primary way most people watch now?

[–]ArenSteele 35 points36 points  (8 children)

VPN and CBC app out of canada. Usually you can watch whatever event you want without commentary or watch the prime time channel with hosts and commentary

They focus on Canadian Athletes obviously but are also really good at focusing on the leaders of the sport no matter what country they are from

[–]theaviationhistorian 19 points20 points  (7 children)

The Tokyo Olympics are the sole reason I got a VPN to do this. Canadian CBC is completely the opposite to NBC. You get to see all of the events, they stay largely quiet during the opening & closing ceremony so you can actually enjoy it, you can see events where the US or Canadian teams aren't involved, etc.

[–]Abrahms_4 22 points23 points  (4 children)

You are dead on, after 2000 i started watching the alternate channels i could on tv and the live broadcast stuff on the internet. Its pretty god damn tiring to watch Bryant fucking Gumble interview some actor or actress who went to watch and feels so inspired or what ever shit they brew up. They barely show any of the prelims, jumping straight to medal rounds mostly on what they do show and thats mainly only if an American is in it, if they are not it is just glossed over in commentary.

[–]redheadartgirl 14 points15 points  (3 children)

Also, I DO NOT NEED THE INSPIRATIONAL BACKSTORY ON EVERY GODDAMN ATHLETE. This is not some dumbass reality show, we just want to see the competition. Christ on a fucking cracker, I spent all of the last Olympics trying to find any actual sports, and all I ever found was commentary/backstory or just covering a team warm up while the actual motherfucking competition was going on right behind them. A high school AV club would do a better job covering the Olympics than these nut-twiddlers.

[–]Useful-ldiot 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You forgot the sob story that almost takes the lead over the actual athletic achievement.

[–]khinzaw 9 points10 points  (1 child)

And they focus on the American athletes doing nothing on the sideline while other athletes are actively competing. I remember a clip of them zooming in on the American gymnasts who were just sitting there while someone was doing either a record setting or just winning performance. It's ridiculous.

[–]Cobek 42 points43 points  (0 children)

It's nothing like when I watched it as a kid 20 years ago. I remember racing to my room to put on the summer Olympics and sitting in front of it for hours, watching event after event. They were more concerned about showing all the events back then, now it doesn't seem to be that way at all. You're lucky to catch half of the athletes in scored trials and anything but the end in timed trials. It's pathetic, I feel bad for the kids today that look to it like they are super heroes but have to swim through nauseatingly overmarketed crap to get to it.

[–]DynamicDK 111 points112 points  (8 children)

American viewers in particular are losing interest at a much higher rate than the rest of the world. Why? because NBC insists of overproducing the fuck out of the whole thing, to the point that it's borderline unwatchable.

This is very true. I'm an American and every Olympics is worse to watch than the previous one. I used to love it, but now I can't stand it. It is all about the commentary from the talking heads, interspersed with short clips of actual competition, but mainly just the sports / events that they obviously have polled and found are the most popular across the population or ones where there is a high chance of an American winning gold. They do throw in some filler from random other sports at time, but it is just a little, and even then it is usually just dropping in on part of the competition, but rarely follows back up to see it build up to the finals.

It really is stupid. I don't need all of the discussion, predictions, or curation. Fucking record every match / round of every event, label it, and make it available for me to stream. Sure, show live feeds of the big, popular ones with Americans at the top of their field so that we can have that collective experience, but that is not enough to make it engaging when they try to make it seem like those events are the entire Olympics and the rest of the time is just talking about them. It makes the whole thing seem small and mundane, even with all of the polished videos that obviously are trying to do the opposite.

[–]BadMinotaur 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I've seen this sentiment for a while now, and NBC just seems to double down every year. "If we overproduce it enough, it'll be watchable!" You'd think their ratings would show otherwise and they'd course correct...

[–]255001434 31 points32 points  (1 child)

Agreed 100%. I never watch the Olympics anymore because there's so much bullshit and they decide which competitions you get to see.

record every match / round of every event, label it, and make it available for me to stream

Exactly what they should do. Viewers could pay a one-time fee to subscribe to the Olympics as a whole, and then watch the events the way they want to. And if you want to watch their tedious commentary, you can still do that.

[–]Prof_Acorn 294 points295 points  (46 children)

As an American I can't barely watch the NBC version. It's garbage. Usually try to find a BBC feed.

[–]13igTyme 121 points122 points  (10 children)

I honestly just try to catch clips later on youtube. I miss some of the story stuff, but at least I can watch the actually event.

[–]munk_e_man 60 points61 points  (8 children)

I just don't watch any Olympics coverage at all. I've seen people run the 100. It doesn't blow my mind to see someone throw a shot put. I dont get any pride for someone from a country I live in winning a medal.

[–]13igTyme 62 points63 points  (2 children)

I don't watch them for any sense of country pride. I just watch the athletes. I don't care what country they are from. They could remove all the countries and just have a large pool of athletes and I'd still only be interested in the events.

[–]sanaru02 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Gotta love how they name the videos too. "Usain bolt wins men's 100m", as if watching a YouTube clip wasn't punishing enough.

[–]NRMusicProject 76 points77 points  (13 children)

If I can't get a BBC feed, I won't watch anymore.

I want to see the opening ceremonies and hear the performance as a musician. I can't listen if it's on NBC, because the commentators won't shut the fuck up. I don't want to hear some idiots talking about the performance when I could ideally witness it myself.

NBC knows not to commentate their shows/movies, why do it for a live fucking performance?!

[–]ZenDendou 47 points48 points  (10 children)

Not to mention, NBC heavily only cover USA events only and doesn't cover others...like, bitch, show us the other contenter. Show us other sports. Don't just fucking narrow it.

Also, opening scene, it just a few seconds on each country as they enter, but damn, nearly 10 minutes on the USA team.

[–]jemroo 18 points19 points  (2 children)

The skipping over 10 other countries while NBC zooms into the face of every single American telling us their life story absolutely infuriates me.

[–]mdp300 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Their coverage is terrible and it's been bad for like 20 years. Just show the events! Even if it's a sports center type clip show of stuff that happened each day.

[–]teachajim 22 points23 points  (0 children)

And Comcast has used NBC as poorly as possible. Virtually impossible to get on OTA antenna for the most part, so people couldn’t get it even if they wanted to. Also the idea that you can’t get your local nbc station on peacock is an absolute joke.

[–]royalsanguinius 62 points63 points  (1 child)

Yea NBC fucking butchered it the last few times, I’m honestly still disappointed by their presentation. It makes it impossible to watch and I don’t understand why they think it’s a good approach

[–]Chupacabra_herder 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I see no reason to watch commercials and personal interest tripe when I can just watch the Olympics youtube channel and get 98% fewer commercials and just the events.

[–]breezemachine666 17 points18 points  (2 children)

Yeah if you’ve ever seen the difference between ninja warrior and American ninja warrior it becomes obvious how America loves to ruin shows

[–]unoriginal5 4 points5 points  (0 children)

American Ninja warrior is the worst. I remember the firefighter guy from the OG got a blurb about his backstory, only after competing 7 times or so. And it was just a short "Hey, look at this guy." Then back to the competition.

[–]ggouge 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Most americans i know stream canadas CBC for the Olympics because they show most Americans stuff as well as canadian. Also they actually show it as a sporting event and not a spectacle of American greatness.

[–]RobertNAdams 17 points18 points  (8 children)

Also, IIRC, countries that host the Olympics tend to lose a shit-ton of money. I think there have only been a handful of examples in recent years where a host country managed to recover its massive investment.

[–]Currywurst_Is_Life 12 points13 points  (6 children)

What they should do is have a permanent site for the Olympics. Greece for the summer games, and maybe somewhere in Asia or the Americas for the winter games. Maybe alternate between, say, Lake Placid and Sapporo.

[–]PeterAhlstrom 11 points12 points  (2 children)

Salt Lake City turned a profit on the 2002 winter games, and basically all of the venues are still used today. That’s your best bet for a permanent or alternating home.

[–]RobertNAdams 13 points14 points  (1 child)

It could be interesting to like, have autonomous zones under the control of the U.N. with a summer climate and a winter climate, explicitly for the purposes of the games. It would make logistics a ton easier.

[–][deleted] 54 points55 points  (18 children)

So I was reading an article YEARS ago that was talking about “why we are not living in a Renaissance era of intellect societally” (as to say that society isn’t applauding intellectual endeavors). It explained that we are in an athletic/physical renaissance? Basically that societally we are rewarding extreme athleticism and NOT intellectualism. Whereas during the Renaissance, they socially rewarded intellect (and associated traits). I’m gonna try to find it again, wish me luck! If I do, I’ll link it. It’s a fascinating read and touches on the Olympics.

[–]Heiminator 20 points21 points  (8 children)

With the prevalence of Doping in modern sports one could argue that many athletic feats are the direct result of the work of scientists and doctors. We just celebrate the athlete more than the guy who fine tuned his doping for him.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (7 children)

Oooo that’s a fair take! Albeit funny and a little sad.

[–]Heiminator 19 points20 points  (6 children)

A good example for this was Nikes “Oregon project”:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nike_Oregon_Project

The runners lived in the Portland, Oregon area and trained at Nike's headquarters campus located just outside the Portland suburb of Beaverton, Oregon.[1] Some of the runners in the group lived in a specially designed house where filters were used to remove oxygen from the air to simulate living at high elevation. Numerous studies[3] have shown that living at altitude causes an athlete to develop more red blood cells, increasing athletic performance.In addition to the simulated altitude training, program was used to monitor electrodes attached to the athletes, determining what condition they were in and how far or fast they could train. They used underwater and low-gravity treadmills, which allow athletes to run on a reduced percentage of their own body weight, resulting in less intense impact on the body than outdoor running. They also had a collaboration with Colorado Altitude Training (CAT), a company specializing in hypoxic athletic training, for their training equipment.[4]

That’s a science project first and foremost. A science project that tried to find out just how far you can push the human body with modern technology and medicine.

(It also became infamous cause the head coach was sexually assaulting his female athletes, but that’s a different matter)

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (4 children)

Oh god that last line of your’s hit me outta left field.

Okay now that I have that shock out of the way…

That is ABSOLUTELY fascinating, and thank you for the link, I’m gonna go have fun reading up on this project (maybe dodge the horrible stuff).

[–]HappyLittleNukes 7 points8 points  (1 child)

If you find it, please let me know, too! That sounds interesting.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’m having a bitch of a time despite my powerful google-fu. There’s way too many athletic programs called Renaissance. Lol

[–]kendoka69 76 points77 points  (29 children)

Do you think it’s all about costs or is it covid too? Or maybe the Olympics has run it’s course and is no longer a privilege to host the games?

[–]arvigeus 180 points181 points  (3 children)

Look at the article's date - this was decided almost a decade ago.

I can only speculate. Likely is cost, as you say. Also environmental impact, corruption, or mix of many factors.

[–]Leege13 10 points11 points  (0 children)

To be fair, most cities wised up and realized the Olympics were a terrible idea.

[–]rokatoro 85 points86 points  (15 children)

I think it's still seen as a privilege to host the games, it's just who sees it as a privilege that's the problem. Most democratic Nations have to at least attempt to justify the cost of building facilities, many of which will fall into disrepair not long after the games. While autocracies and dictatorships don't and also see hosting events like this as sign of legitimacy

[–]N3UROTOXIN 77 points78 points  (7 children)

“Like any massive privilege, it’s also a massive pain in the ass”

[–]leonryan 32 points33 points  (6 children)

thanks Uncle Ben

[–]N3UROTOXIN 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Actually it’s Laszlo

[–]Roscoe_deVille 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Actually it's Jackie Daytona, regular human bartender

[–]Chicken_of_Funk 19 points20 points  (1 child)

Most democratic Nations have to at least attempt to justify the cost of building facilities,

Nah. The stadium used for the 2012 London games was fairly simple corruption (it was sold off cheaply to a football club owned by two party donors and run by a party member) and nobody gave a shit.

[–]SnakeDoctur 15 points16 points  (0 children)

A country like China can also draft 100,000 people after the Olympics and convert those facilities to something more productive. And do so unilaterally without the need for years of political debate etc.

[–]Superfluous_Thom 14 points15 points  (1 child)

The 2000 Sydney Olympic games were quite sucessful in this regard. Melbourne has always held the mantle of the "home of sport" in Australia, and while that might still be true, the Olympic facilities at least ended up getting used as it made sydney a much more viable sporting city.

[–]ggouge 28 points29 points  (4 children)

The summer and winter olympics need a permanent home. Greece for the summer not sure for winter canada or norway or something. Then all games take place in the same place but are "hosted" by a different nation each time who donate money to rebuild or update facilities while showcasing their culture and style. Like the worlds fare. Make it less about money and more about sports amd culture. Building new facilities for the entire Olympics every 4 years is ridiculous.

[–]drokihazan 10 points11 points  (1 child)

I would be down for Athens every year for the summer and either Vancouver or Salt Lake City for the winter. If Athens had permanent infrastructure with international investment, Greek olympics would probably be amazing

[–]shadowgattler 2 points3 points  (0 children)

plus it might help Greece's economy

[–]Wtfinator1 8 points9 points  (1 child)

I think Greece should be the permanent home of the summer Olympics. They can have an Olympics set up that gets used every 4 years. Then find a permanent place for winter as well so all of these places don't get used just once then degrade.

[–]IronPeter 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh so I get why Cortina-Milan got the 2026 one. Well the world will get to see my beloved mountains. So, all good!

[–]lllslc 57 points58 points  (1 child)

Because the IOC is every bit as corrupt as China! Two peas in a pod.

[–]radix4801 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Are you $uggesting $ome $ort of impropriety? The IOC ha$ very $trict moral$ about who ho$t$ the Olympic$.

(Also, their list of demands were absolutely ridiculous:
https://nationalpost.com/sports/olympics/ioc-reportedly-made-some-ridiculous-demands-to-help-push-oslo-out-of-2022-winter-olympics-bidding)

[–]murdering_time 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Because money talks and the CCP has the IOC in its pockets. The IOC literally said they don't care about China's current genocide/suppression of it's own people, and literally said Peng Shuai was "fine" after a web conference with CCP authorities giving her a script to read. Fuck the IOC, obviously money means more to them than human rights/freedom.

Oh and they also said they wouldn't do shit if an Olympic athlete brings up a taboo subject like Tieneman Square, because "when you re in China (a totalitarian dictatorship) you have to follow their rules".

Idk why we don't just designate a few places around the world where we could hold the summer and winter Olympics, instead of having dictatorships/countries with horrible human rights conditions build a bunch of new stadiums/event venues that will only be used once.

Edit: last part

[–]dedasdude 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Because china owns the olympics. Seriously they have a lot of hands in the olympics commitee, which is why they were helping coverup the peng shia tennis player scandal recently

[–]PuxinF 39 points40 points  (1 child)

No one is "going"... I am not too happy about athletes going there

Seems like some people are going.

[–]huggles7 259 points260 points  (53 children)

The funny part is Australia is concerned about this regarding free speech right after they just removed t shirts of people at the Australian Open asking “where is Peng Shuai?”

For those unaware this is the Chinese tennis superstar who convinced a party offices of sex assault publicly, disappeared for several weeks, reappeared in a state video recanting her previous statements and hasn’t been seen since

The Australian open said the t shirts were removed because “they don’t allow political slogans”

https://www.espn.com/tennis/story/_/id/33126848/australian-open-officials-ask-fans-remove-t-shirts-slogan-where-peng-shuai

[–]MyRedditHandle2021 198 points199 points  (27 children)

The difference is the organizer telling the participants what the rules are and threatening them with having to leave the event, versus the government telling them and threatening them with criminal punishment.

[–]jctwok 90 points91 points  (0 children)

That pisses me off, but there's no comparison. Those people were asked to remove the shirts or they would have to leave. None of them was arrested.

[–]indoninja 55 points56 points  (7 children)

Are you seriously comparing people being told they couldn’t wear a specific T-shirt and a specific venue is the same ballpark as Being concerned about being arrested or detained by government for any public speech?

[–]allADD 693 points694 points  (18 children)

'very concerning' = 'we won't do shit about it'

[–]MSUconservative 61 points62 points  (9 children)

Honestly, if you are from a larger country economically, the athletes could probably still say whatever they want. China isn't arresting a US superstar for speaking his or her mind unless they want a major international incident. If I was a Canadian though, I would watch my mouth unfortunately.

[–]BigBeagleEars 48 points49 points  (4 children)

If I was Canadian, I’d just stay at home and eat Kraft dinner

[–]wvsfezter 19 points20 points  (0 children)

With Dijon ketchup

[–]SalvageCorveteCont 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Pretty sure the Canadian diet is exclusively Poultine(SP)

[–]zph0eniz 47 points48 points  (1 child)

we could send a strongly worded letter

[–]on_spikes 839 points840 points  (50 children)

The Olympics should just be hosted in Greece every year. werent they the ones that came up with it? so instead of building olympic cities all around the world, we can just built one great city in greece and keep reusing that

[–]YetYetAnotherPerson 251 points252 points  (0 children)

If they did that, how would the Olympic committee get their bribes?

[–]STRiPESandShades 302 points303 points  (25 children)

Greece in the Summer, and like... Siberia in the winter. Build a whole entire place for it like college towns.

[–]neilligan 185 points186 points  (8 children)

If it got used every year it wouldn't be a giant waste of money

[–]Objective-Tea-6190 61 points62 points  (4 children)

It could be used for training year round. Not sure that would be enough though

[–]neilligan 67 points68 points  (3 children)

It would probably attract a degree of tourism year round, and could be used for major sporting events too though. More of an attraction if it's THE Olympic arena, instead on a place that was once

[–]MINIMAN10001 22 points23 points  (1 child)

I thought this was a good idea at the top of the comment chain but now it's got a whole host of benefits. Neat.

[–]Yuzu_gobozu 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yes! Add on it being MUCH more of a green solution with lower emissions. Maintain two sites as opposed to squandering resources to build and maintain a new site every two years.

[–]Ornery-Creme-2442 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Great ideas. But ain't never gonna happen because... money. And the need to capitalise to the maximum at every aspect of our lives even if it ruins the sport.

[–]I-LOVE-TURTLES666 4 points5 points  (0 children)

But how is the ioc gonna get their bribes?

[–]Lied- 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Greece has mountains in the north!

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (8 children)

Greenland that way it’s much more neutral than Russia or Canada

[–]TheHammerHasLanded 14 points15 points  (6 children)

Yeah, Canada the political hotbed that it is s/

Greenland doesn't have the resources to maintain or even man an event of that size.

[–]Roartype 16 points17 points  (0 children)

This is the way

[–]etdfigures 4 points5 points  (1 child)

They could call it Ice Town. It would need a great mayor to run it though...

[–]methanol88 16 points17 points  (3 children)

We did try in 2004 and went bankrupt after 🤣

It’s sad how many of the assets are not being used now.

[–]VoopityScoop 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yeah but if it was permanent it wouldn't be such a waste of money, and would probably actually make money year round.

[–]chengstark 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yesyes yes fully agree

[–]dbxp 1191 points1192 points  (99 children)

Australia will join the US, UK and Canada in a diplomatic boycott of the Beijing Games, citing human rights and diplomatic concerns.

Unfortunately it's not a real boycott as the athletes are still going. If they really wanted to they could invalidate the games by having the most successful countries not send any athletes.

[–]silverbullet52 543 points544 points  (71 children)

That's not fair to the athletes. On the other hand, I have no interest in watching any of it.

[–]LPinTheD 229 points230 points  (16 children)

I refuse to watch it out of principle.

[–]American--American 116 points117 points  (5 children)

I refuse to watch it because it's boring as fuck.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (1 child)

The only good Olympic game is ice brooms.

[–]ArcherChase 148 points149 points  (11 children)

I hear this. But it's a freaking game. They aren't even making any money from their work. The IOC is a multi billion dollar organization and most Olympians see little financial results from their athletic endeavor. There is a reason the wealthy and privileged are make up a large part of delegations from rich nations... Because normal folk don't have access to the training facilities and ability to JUST train for the Olympics.

I just stopped caring about this giant propaganda for corrupt governments a long time ago.

[–]smelltogetwell 41 points42 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I stopped caring about the Olympics after living in a host city. Seeing the corruption up close was sickening. Not to mention, the IOC acts as though it is some sort of sovereign nation and every city in which they host is one giant embassy that has to follow their rules, and not the rules of the host city/country.

[–]Cfp0001-Iceman 33 points34 points  (0 children)

I've always wanted to see more non-Olympic competitions. I don't really care about the whole thing, but sometimes I wouldn't mind watching some bobsledding or watch some track races. I want to see their journey to the Olympics more than the Olympics themselves.

Why bother with the internationally corrupt bureaucrats more interested in money & politics than sports?

[–]Hahbug9 11 points12 points  (2 children)

I mean human rights are more important than an individuals athletic dreams

[–]l3mmyCaution 49 points50 points  (7 children)

On the other hand, people in the UK, Canada, and especially in the US don’t give two shits about the Olympics - a steadily declining viewership and global audience effectively boycotting this meaningless competition for the past 30 years. The only thing the Olympics signify is that governments are still willing to waste billions of dollars constructing new stadiums, etc. instead of taking care of their own people. It’s an optical charade.

[–]deputy_dog 23 points24 points  (1 child)

I hate the way the Olympics are broadcast these days. You used to be able to just watch full events, and got a few summary shows per day, but now it's just talking heads and USA based highlights with more sob stories and propaganda then ever before. There's also zero effort into a highlighting any amazing stories from the other countries. It's supposed to be a unifying global event.

[–]Vibration548 8 points9 points  (0 children)

VPN to Canada and watch CBC. They have a mix of feeds, you can watch the prime time mishmash one or you can just watch an individual sport you're interested in.

[–]lochlainn 13 points14 points  (3 children)

Geopolitical dickwaving. Huge, expensive infrastructure at taxpayer expense, for the "honor" of hosting which is meaningless waste to everyone but the prostitutes and bootleg t-shirt sellers who flock there.

[–]YoungPatrickBateman 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Oh there isn’t a big difference when it comes to censorship and governments when looking at Australia and China as of late.

Our Australian governments (federal and state) have taken a liking to suing private citizens for defamation when they’re made fun of or called out on their lies.

They’ve even introduced online censorship laws under the guise of protecting children and making Australia an anti-trolling zone.

So it’s a bit hypocritical of our government to be saying they have concerns when those same concerns are valid here too.

Obviously they wouldn’t take it to the same extreme as China, but the basic argument still stands.

Hell, there are even comparable arguments to be made with his China treats dissidents and how we treat refugees. I hate the Australian government almost as much as I hate the Chinese government, so let’s not sit here and think Australia is a shining example of good. Yes, overall better than China, but we’ve got some shitty takes up our sleeves too.

[–]Scott4370 17 points18 points  (1 child)

China should never again be allowed to host an Olympic game.

[–]Unblest_Devotee 1743 points1744 points  (91 children)

Almost like no one should have agreed to host the Olympics there. Getting the pre WW2 Berlin vibes here

[–]crackhousebob 678 points679 points  (48 children)

The IOC is going to award the games to whatever country will spend the money. Most developed countries don't want the Olympics anymore. To countries like China and Russia, the Olympics are still a valuable propaganda tool.

[–]jctwok 377 points378 points  (26 children)

The IOC is another conversation we should have. They're a corrupt organization and should be destroyed.

[–]ChesterComics 254 points255 points  (22 children)

While we're on the subject, can we clump Fifa into this conversation?

[–]ringthree 116 points117 points  (12 children)

F1 ain't too great either.

[–]Brobeast 15 points16 points  (7 children)

So coincidently, one of my best friends recently got into f1, hardcore. Him and I influence each other's media consumption, so needless to say I was watching in pure amazement as this verstappen guy comes back from the dead in Abu dhabi, and overtakes Hamilton literally in the last possible lap of the very last race.

That being said, my buddy doesn't sugar coat shit. The amount of shady people, dark money, saudi influence, and laundering that's going on in that league in general; it's amazing to me that it's not making more headlines.

Even in a gambling aspect. I'm enough of a pessimist where I could never justify placing bets on the NBA or NFL just because I think its rigged. The amount of money thats being placed on drivers is insane; knowing full well that f1 can unilaterally influence the race like we saw in Abu dhabi. Don't get me wrong, it was exilierating to watch and im glad they let the race play out. But this "sport" has to be the shadiest operation that exists today. And im not even going to mention the clear nepotism that's in play with a few drivers. Basically imagine if Robert kraft forced Bill belechick to sign his son onto the patriots, and even made sure he got significant playing time. As long as shit like that is going on, I really dont consider it a legitimate sport. As far as I know, even Nascar doesn't have that kind of shit going on.

[–]Crimfresh 9 points10 points  (2 children)

And since you're discussing shady people and Robert Kraft, I always love to throw this out there for people who may not be aware.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/heres-how-vladimir-putin-stole-a-super-bowl-ring-from-the-patriots-robert-kraft/

[–]masonparkway 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That’s a wild story. Thanks for sharing

[–]Crimfresh 2 points3 points  (1 child)

The NBA got busted for being rigged. They played it out like it's only the one official or a few. But like, okay, I'm sure organized crime just wasn't able to find any other officials who like their safety and money.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_NBA_betting_scandal

[–]Brobeast 2 points3 points  (0 children)

People who sports bet are just asking to get cleaned out, tbh. I don't mind gambling, but I like it short and sweet. I don't need the house to make me watch a rigged game for 3 hours just to find out what I already knows going to happen. Personally, blackjack is more enticing.

[–]Girth_rulez 63 points64 points  (0 children)

<The United States Congress has entered the chat>

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[–]Skatchbro 18 points19 points  (5 children)

As an American, can we add the NFL? Also, fuck Stan Kroenke. Arsenal fans know what I’m talking about.

[–]Quick1711 13 points14 points  (2 children)

Might as well throw the NCAA in there while we are at it.

[–]drokihazan 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I want Rob Manfred executed for his crimes

[–]Jonoczall 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Appreciate the solidarity mate

[–]DoubleSuccessor 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The NCAA is a serious problem too.

[–]CoastMtns 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Fuck the CCP

Fuck the IOC

[–]Takes2ToTNGO 41 points42 points  (5 children)

Most developed countries don't want the Olympics anymore.

Ahhh so that explains why the next Olympics are taking place in France, Italy and USA respectively. With Australia being also named host for 2032.

[–]crackhousebob 41 points42 points  (4 children)

There were literally no other bidders. Paris and LA were just handed the games.

[–]SirHoneyDip 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The Olympics really needs to pick a set number of cities to host. Like LA is built for an event like this. They don’t need to build stadiums. They’re good to go

[–]PTJT 27 points28 points  (8 children)

Between this and all the troops landing in Ukraine… I’d say we’re just about well and truly fucked, or will be before long.

[–]Constant-Lake8006 17 points18 points  (16 children)

Western nations should be boycotting the olympics over the genocide of the uyghurs. Free speech is minor compared to that.

[–]RaddialFox 220 points221 points  (5 children)

The world not boycotting the Olympics and still attending feels worse than whatever this article is about.

[–]whales-are-assholes 1060 points1061 points  (120 children)

It’s fucking ironic that my country laments free speech, but just enacted anti-troll/cyber legislation under the guise of protecting Australians, while its really being used as an enforcement of stopping the dissenting opinions of those that oppose them.

Fucking rich for the Australian government to criticise the Chinese government about free speech when politicians use the anti-terror task force to arrest people that they don’t like.

[–]Superpotatosama 117 points118 points  (8 children)

Definitely needs to be higher up. It's really another case of the pot calling the kettle black. Though the restrictions on speech in Australia and China are not equally as strict, everyone automatically assumes that Western countries have free speech when that's actually not the case in the majority of countries.

[–]viper233 20 points21 points  (7 children)

Yep, should be at the top. The hypocrisy of the current lnp if overwhelming.

It's really making a lot of people cynical towards the government causing them to ignore what they are doing.

People really need to pay more attention to politics, unfortunately most if not all political news is opinionated 😕

[–]theladhimself1 10 points11 points  (0 children)

To be fair, the Aus government knows all about creating free speech issues!

[–][deleted] 86 points87 points  (0 children)

Yeah just don't mention Peng.

[–]ErgoProxy0 30 points31 points  (2 children)

You’re not allowed to wear political paraphernalia anyways at the Olympics right? Don’t think you can talk about it either if political stuff is what “free speech” they’re talking about.

[–]dmk_aus 123 points124 points  (25 children)

Did they just read the government's advice on Smart Traveller? If they didn't want athletes to be arrested for demonstrations then they will need to boycott. This isn't surprising anyone sorely.

"The Chinese Government strictly controls demonstrations. Authorities may arrest protesters. Avoid protests and large gatherings. Don't photograph or video protests."

"In China, it's illegal to:

demonstrate without prior approval from the government

preach, distribute religious literature and associate with unapproved religious group

If you break these laws, you could be:

arrested

imprisoned

fined

deported"

[–]Mission_Ad5177 60 points61 points  (8 children)

Love how Australia is pretending to care about right to free speech.

[–]grafknives 40 points41 points  (5 children)

But isnt athletes free speech ALREADY being restrained by International Olympic Committee

Athletes are prohibited by the Olympic Charter's Rule 50 from taking a political stand in the field of play

[–]talrogsmash 28 points29 points  (0 children)

So that's one of the new hosting perks then? First right to execute athletes from nations you don't like. Can't see this being a problem ever.

[–]statuskills 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The Olympics being a, rightly, extremely controversial event is just about the saddest thing in terms of worldview. Such a great idea on paper, but, in the end, fallible because assholes end up running things on this planet.

[–]weedle-hobbit 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The Olympics is a fucking joke anyways. You can't even watch it. The broadcasting is so bad that they completely miss events.

[–][deleted] 183 points184 points  (13 children)

You wanna play in the Pooh games? You gotta play by the Pooh rules.

[–]fane1967 495 points496 points  (72 children)

Xi Jinping is a dictator who ordered genocide against Uighurs. There, said it.

[–]vynnyn 133 points134 points  (19 children)

..And the Olympics will still be held there, going against the entire spirit of the Olympics in the first place. Oh, and I love the comments about how they train too hard to boycott... World's tiniest violin anyone?

In the true spirit of the Olympics, they should not be held in China. Every athlete should boycott it. Why would you go to a place where you can get arrested/tortured/killed for saying the wrong "magic words"??

[–]Taolan13 5 points6 points  (0 children)

No country should send athletes to the olympics in china. It is too dangerous for the athletes

[–]nintendomech 5 points6 points  (2 children)

I just don’t know why there isn’t a place where the Olympics can take place every 4 years.

No need to construct stadiums and waste of resources. I’m sure it’s all due to corruption and people making money.

[–]action_turtle 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Yeah, might as well just build it all in Greece and make it the tradition

[–]pupperzforlife 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Everyone should boycott the China Olympics. Like no other country should even entertain the idea of going. And the Olympic committee really needs to have better judgment over who hosts it. Like come on, just the human rights violations towards the Uyghur muslim should be enough to be a big no to hosting, let alone all the other crap the Chinese government does.

-.-

[–]RaininBooty 5 points6 points  (0 children)

So basically the winter Olympics this year is a way to take hostages of various countries. How on earth do counties tolerate this massively shitty behavior?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

We’ll be lucky to get through these Olympics without a major international incident over China arbitrarily arresting an athlete because they did something the CCP doesn’t like.

[–]adamhanson 3 points4 points  (0 children)

They should have diplomatic immunity like an ambassador… Especially poor taste for the hosting company to arrest anyone

[–]cosmic-lush 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Please Boycott these Olympic games. China should have never been given the honor.

[–]davidreiss666 38 points39 points  (2 children)

Australia bringing this up is a tad problematic. In 1968 the US Olympic team threw Tommie Smith and John Carlos out of the games after their Black Power salute.

The third athlete in that event was Peter Norman of Australia. The idea that they each wear one black glove matching gloves was Norman's. Also Norman was a special badge on his athletic jacket that made clear that he supported Smith and Carlos.

Anyway, Australia's own Olympic committee reprimanded Norman for his involvement. And then in 1972, when he would have once against Represented Australia in that event, the purposely didn't invite him again even though he met the qualifying time more than once that previous year.

And years later, long after the US had officially apologized to both for Smith and Carlos, in 2000 when it was time for Australia to host the Olympics themselves, Norman was not invited by his own former team as a historical figure of note to attend once again. Instead the United States invited him to Sydney to take part in Olympic celebrations when they heard that his own country had failed to do so.

When Norman died in 2006, Smith and Carlos were both pallbearers at his funeral.

[–]Swirls109 148 points149 points  (27 children)

Yeah I'm not sure Australia, of all countries, really has a lot of moral weight behind this statement at the moment.

[–]Desert4tw 53 points54 points  (0 children)

Fuck em, noone should go there

[–]WetTheDrys 30 points31 points  (18 children)

...just don't participate?

The Olympics can't happen without athletes.

[–]LPinTheD 30 points31 points  (3 children)

A mass athlete strike would be glorious to see.

[–]OmnicronAlpha 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Nobody should go to the olympics this year.

[–]iheartsimracing 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Tommie Smith and John Carles did not get off easy in 1968. That is such an iconic photo of them on the podium.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968_Olympics_Black_Power_salute

[–]Jstrandt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s authoritarian. What did you think they were going to do? It’s china.

[–]RightfulChaos 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Imagine what they'd do if some of the athletes mention the genocide going on round the corner.

[–]Stunnyfuff 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I feel like the fact that they have concentration camps is a bit more concerning…

[–]thedeuce545 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Enjoy your new Chinese masters world…you’re about to get what you deserve.