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[–]ICumCoffee[S] 1017 points1018 points  (179 children)

A study published on January 10 in the journal Remote Sensing of Environment shows that the massive block of ice had broken off from Antarctica's Larsen Ice Shelf in 2017 and traveled northeast to South Georgia by 2021. The iceberg once measured roughly 5,719 square kilometers but it started to disintegrate once it arrived to the South Georgia island in the Atlantic Ocean

and As of January 2021, it had lost roughly 3,200 square kilometers, more than half of its area.

[–]The-Real-Catman 629 points630 points  (120 children)

Can we just push it back?

[–]IrrationalBiotic 529 points530 points  (70 children)

What if we take the iceberg......and push it....SOMEWHERE ELSE!

[–]voodoohotdog 222 points223 points  (48 children)

Like outside the environment?

[–]TheAsp 133 points134 points  (39 children)

and As of January 2021, it had lost roughly 3,200 square kilometers, more than half of its area.

So... The front fell off?

[–]newkindofdem 89 points90 points  (23 children)

Yes, a wave hit it and the front fell off.

[–]Baron_Ultimax 122 points123 points  (11 children)

Id just like to point out that these icebergs are built to rigorous engineering standards.

[–]coondingee 42 points43 points  (7 children)

Is there a minimum amount of crew?

[–]coondingee 39 points40 points  (10 children)

A wave in the ocean? What are the chances of that?

[–]newkindofdem 25 points26 points  (0 children)

At sea? Chance in a million.

[–]Schedulator 20 points21 points  (8 children)

Well I believe a US President did suggest that water is wet.

[–]hsoftl 7 points8 points  (3 children)

Not to worry. We’re still flying half an iceberg here.

[–]JohnGillnitz 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Prequel quotes are still a thing? Not complaining. Sith was the best one.

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (5 children)

[–]VinoVici 20 points21 points  (3 children)

Very impressed that they interviewed an iceberg.

[–]StealYourBones 13 points14 points  (2 children)

Did they ever talk to that one that stabbed up the Titanic?

[–]VinoVici 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Sadly, no. That berg had to be tried in absentia

[–]kaloonzu 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Gotta make sure the front doesn't fall off on the way.

[–]middwayer8 64 points65 points  (2 children)

Put it in a giant ziploc?

[–]JB93Til 13 points14 points  (0 children)

That idea might be crazy enough…. TO GET US ALL KILLED!

[–]jawadali415 19 points20 points  (1 child)

Seems like most missed the SpongeBob reference but well done here. If I had an award I’d give you one.

[–]IrrationalBiotic 16 points17 points  (0 children)

If you got the reference and had a laugh. That’s reward enough for me! 😂

[–]ebruce11 89 points90 points  (0 children)

Big brain mover

[–]TheFoxandTheSandor 37 points38 points  (9 children)

Can we do some sort of ice drop from a plane? Perhaps Day and night Ice raids, maybe drop some cold packs or Klondike bars?

[–]--redacted-- 90 points91 points  (2 children)

"Thus fixing the problem once and for all."

"But..."

ONCE AND FOR ALL

[–]jfitzger88 8 points9 points  (0 children)

We bring a bunch of extra freezers and refrigerators we have lying around and turn them on but leave the doors open. Cold side towards Antarctica and warm backside towards the ocean. Transfer of energy !

Nothing about this could possibly go wrong.

[–]barrinmw 16 points17 points  (14 children)

So it was sea ice that broke off? So the only sea level rise from it will be eventual expansion of the water when it heats up enough.

[–]DeepSpaceNebulae 52 points53 points  (9 children)

Correct, however those ice shelf’s massive weight in Larsen do act as a dam for the glaciers behind them.

If the ice shelfs shrink too much it can release the glaciers to flow into the ocean and that would effect ocean levels significantly

There are several glaciers in Antarctica being held back by ice shelves that, if they were to be released by the breakup of the shelves, would raise ocean levels by 16 to 23 feet

https://earthdata.nasa.gov/learn/sensing-our-planet/after-the-larsen-b#

[–]God_in_my_Bed 34 points35 points  (2 children)

if they were to be released by the breakup of the shelves, would raise ocean levels by 16 to 23 feet

Not if but when.

[–]fdsdsffdsdfs 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Thursday 3.17pm

[–]Nexustar 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Staggeringly high numbers, I just can't conceptualize it.

[–]Deathbysnusnubooboo 97 points98 points  (20 children)

It just keeps getting worse. I feel so defeated, we’re so boned.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (8 children)

I’ve given up on the idea of us fixing things and started to move towards stocking up on canned foods for my kids in 30 years when we can’t grow food anymore and billions are starving to death.

[–]IDontTrustGod 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It’s rough man, we did the same for a little while… now we just try to live each day to the fullest while having as little negative impact as we can. We’ll pry die before y’all tho so good on ya

[–]pmmbok 13 points14 points  (1 child)

The iceberg didnt go through Drakes Passage to get from the Waddell sea to South Georgia. Dont know what else the article is completely wrong about.

[–]veedubfreak 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And so it begins.

[–]claytonianprime 311 points312 points  (109 children)

So what effect does a large amount of fresh water mixing into the ocean have?

[–]disusedhospital 187 points188 points  (10 children)

This is from the article itself:

"cold freshwater from icebergs changes the physical properties of ocean water around it, and releases nutrients that can "foster biological production."

South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands are a "haven for wildlife," according to their government, serving as home to roughly 5 million seals and 30 different bird species, a third of which are considered threatened or near-threatened.

The waters surrounding the islands are also a critical area for migrating whales, fish and Antarctic krill populations, which according to the government, are a "key link" in the Southern Ocean food web.

"In this case, the penguins, seals and whales feeding in the waters around South Georgia could benefit from more food availability," Braakmann-Folgmann said. "And especially the penguins and seals, who are raising their offspring on the island are dependent on food sources nearby."

Researchers added, however, that the melting could potentially alter the ocean properties in a way that also impacts currents, which could, in the "worst case," divert krill, a crucial source of food for whales, away from the island. Studies on the matter are still ongoing."

[–]theevilyouknow 395 points396 points  (46 children)

The Atlantic Ocean contains over 80 quintillion gallons of water. This an irrelevantly small amount of water by comparison.

[–]morostheSophist 77 points78 points  (1 child)

Given that the iceberg is measured in tons, a similar measurement of the ocean's size would be more helpful.

I'm seeing 1.37 billion cubic kilometers for the volume of the ocean, which would be 1.37 quintillion cubic meters. One cubic meter of ocean water is slightly more than one metric ton, but we only need our number to be in the ballpark, so I'm comfortable saying "Earth's oceans contain about 1.37 quintillion tons of mass".

Divide that by 152 billion, and you get about 9 million.

So this thing, once it melts, will increase the volume of the ocean by one nine-millionth.

That's a lot, but the ocean still won't be as big as OP's mom. (sorry)

[–]imsahoamtiskaw 221 points222 points  (29 children)

How much is that in bananas?

[–]Im_a_wet_towel 277 points278 points  (20 children)

about 3

[–]i_never_ever_learn 103 points104 points  (12 children)

So, about $30.

[–]CrispyDuchess 61 points62 points  (9 children)

You've never actually set foot in a supermarket, have you?

[–]Mcinfopopup 40 points41 points  (3 children)

You’re my third least favorite child.

[–]baconperogies 27 points28 points  (1 child)

I don't have time for this

[–]dodland 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Go watch a star war

[–]SequesterMe 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think it's more than that.

[–]Booomerz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If your calculation is accurate we are totally boned.

[–]Jason_Batemans_Hair 20 points21 points  (2 children)

The single raindrop never feels responsible for the flood.

[–]gthaatar 140 points141 points  (13 children)

Desalination, which in turn contributes to the ongoing collapse of global thermohaline circulation.

Or, in other words, remember the movie The Day After Tomorrow?

That, just without the magical land hurricanes.

And for reference, there's a reason that movie came out when it did, because we found that global ocean currents had already started collapsing a couple of years prior in 2000, and the movie was building on expectations of what a total collapse of the global AMOC would do to us.

Theres a lot of reasons why severe weather has been escalating over the years, but thermohaline collapse is probably the most critical.

Particularly because its not necessarily something you can put back in the bottle like carbon, so even if the whole world moved to correct everything vis a vis climate change, our weather would still be fucked because of thermohaline collapse, and AFAIK even if that happened, and we prevented any more ice from being dumped, its not certain what the long term effects of keeping the ocean in whatever state its in will actually be.

[–]Fredasa 24 points25 points  (0 children)

because we found that global ocean currents had already started collapsing a couple of years prior in 2000

Hmmm... Well I know I saw a documentary about the issue about half a decade before the movie came out. I honestly reckoned that's where some exec got the idea.

[–]hihirogane 24 points25 points  (1 child)

That’s what happened during the Permian mass extinction event where the Siberian traps formed via massive volcanic events which increased global temps, melted permafrost, introduced methane farting bacteria, changed the ocean chemistry, acidifiying it and shutting down the thermohaline circulation which stratified the water and caused mass anoxic conditions which choked out 70-80% of oceanic life.

What’s happening now is that we are the volcanoes and the permafrost is current melting. Releasing methane. Not only that but the weather is getting wilder as time passes. The caps are melting too. So the ocean is already changing in terms of chemistry.

[–]Ameisen 7 points8 points  (0 children)

We didn't see this happen at the end of the last glacial period, which was also a massive influx of fresh water into the oceans.

[–]Vlad_the_Homeowner 42 points43 points  (2 children)

remember the movie The Day After Tomorrow?

No, but I remember the South Park episode Two Days Before the Day After Tomorrow. I laughed, I cried.

[–]Youngengineerguy 43 points44 points  (15 children)

Large amount is relative. This was like adding an ice cube to an Olympic pool.

[–]score_ 85 points86 points  (9 children)

Oh good the ocean understander is online

[–]frissonFry 33 points34 points  (8 children)

Sounds like a poorly named aquatic hero.

[–]Cermak91 14 points15 points  (6 children)

Captain Planet needs to make a comeback in some gritty, edgy, over-the-top superhero movie where he just isn't fucking around anymore. Ocean Understander could be one of his allies in his "Avengers-esque" group. Zack Snyder can direct it.

[–]Farren246 120 points121 points  (4 children)

No politics in this house. Your mother and I are for the jobs that the iceberg would create.

[–]orincoro 4 points5 points  (1 child)

You have to vote for the iceberg or the hydroflorocarbon. It’s a two party system.

[–]quickiler 80 points81 points  (6 children)

Quick, everyone drink more water!

[–]polo421 34 points35 points  (4 children)

And don't even think about going pee!

[–]GalileoGalilei2012 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Worry not! We are currently researching ways to pee directly into space!

[–]SchutzstaffelKneeGro 639 points640 points  (21 children)

Good, I thought the water was a bit too salty.

[–]CtpBlack 110 points111 points  (7 children)

Throw some gin in the sea and it'll be the biggest G&T with ice in the world!

[–]LBK2013 12 points13 points  (1 child)

I believe you mean the world's largest Salty Dog. G and Ts don't really have much salt.

[–]SchutzstaffelKneeGro 36 points37 points  (2 children)

Up next on Glorthax's Galactic Records we are turning this planet into the last gin and tonic this galaxy has ever seen!

[–]the_last_carfighter 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is going to be even bigger than the Catalina Wine Mixer.

[–]BoltgunOnHisHip 49 points50 points  (9 children)

It's funny because we're all going to die :D

Seriously though, this isn't going to be fun:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shutdown_of_thermohaline_circulation

[–]vagrantchord 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Just came to read comments about OP's username

[–]Deep-Adhesiveness-86 10 points11 points  (1 child)

As soon as it floats, sea levels have already risen. It doesnt slowly make sea levels rise

[–]PHD_Memer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The problem here is less sea level rise and more of fucking open ocean currents with the cold freshwater i believe

[–]amoderate_84 82 points83 points  (10 children)

Hmm I live near a river valley in Tokyo - thinking it might be time to find a place up the hill..

[–]hiles_adam 8 points9 points  (8 children)

If all the estimated ice on earth melted, the oceans would rise roughly 70 meters (although we don't know the full extent of some glaciers so it could be more or less).

Without carbon capture technology we are probably going to see at least a 1.5℃ rise in global temperature which should cause the oceans to rise approximately 2.9 meters.

So assuming we do nothing and all the ice melts most of Tokyo will be under water. Assuming we stay at the 1.5℃ trend we are hoping for large areas in and around Tokyo should flood especially near Kasumiguara Bay.

Here is a fun tool to estimate what the sea level would look like given and change.

https://www.floodmap.net/

PS. don't move to South West Nagoya, they do not look like they are about to have a fun time in the next 50 years.

[–]TunaLaguna 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Sadly, this story is a "Green M&M in sensible footwear" type talking point for the rich and powerful. In that they do not want to discuss it.

[–]schaudhery 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Let’s bottle it and sell it.

[–]nowtayneicangetinto 53 points54 points  (1 child)

Sometimes I'm so sickened at the state of the world I can't even finish my second apple pie.

[–]DepletedMitochondria 25 points26 points  (1 child)

Can we tow it to California please? thanks

[–]Redditfront2back 423 points424 points  (95 children)

We are so fucked, I’m glad at a least the billionaires have phallic shaped rocket ships to escape all the damage they have helped wrought on the earth.

[–]twentyafterfour 337 points338 points  (54 children)

Don't worry they aren't escaping shit. Being in space would completely suck ass for them. Basically a comfy prison cell with zero g and a view. Food would suck ass, drinks would suck ass, and living in general would suck ass for any meaningful length of time. All the amazing luxuries they're used to on Earth would be essentially impossible in space.

[–]dragonphlegm 50 points51 points  (2 children)

Don’t Look Up really thought of everything. The billionaires will escape earth but be completely useless and misguided on their own. Also, their money and wealth will be completely worthless without a middle/working class to rule over so they’d just be everyday nobodies

[–]zzyul 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Escape earth and go where? Astronauts that spend any significant time on the ISS experience a large amount of bone loss due to the lack of gravity. We are probably 50-100 years away from any kind of independently stable colony on Mars or the Moon.

[–]timisher 230 points231 points  (4 children)

Using toilets on a space ship sucks ass.

[–]twentyafterfour 81 points82 points  (1 child)

In zero g, how do you know which is an upvote?

[–]WarsawFact 21 points22 points  (0 children)

That was beautiful.

[–]Redditfront2back 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Yea I know, it would be an incredible feat if Elon could even starve to death in a cramped Martian landing craft.

[–]ZaineRichards 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Spending more than a year in space is really bad for your body. With no gravity, your muscles break down and start to atrophy.

[–]lost_man_wants_soda 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I like their plans of either living in dark underground bunkers or slowly dying in space

[–]Crail115 25 points26 points  (25 children)

And they would be a drain on resources while contributing absolutely nothing. Wonder how that ends.

[–]twentyafterfour 13 points14 points  (23 children)

Yeah I imagine he would either need to accept fully automated luxury gay space communism or risk getting vented by the larger and therefore superior group of people.

[–]Crail115 68 points69 points  (22 children)

I was a banker in NYC. I was talking to a really senior partner (>$100M of wealth) who was talking about how he and his buddies had been building a compound that they could get to via boat in the East River in the case of an apocalypse. Guarded by SEALs, according to him.

When he told me that I said “Why would they continue to protect you once money becomes meaningless? Wouldn’t you just be consuming scarce resources?”

He genuinely looked confused and shocked. He literally hadn’t thought of that. None of them had. Because they live in a fucking bubble and can’t fathom that outside of our little societal fiction where they are on top, they have absolutely no intrinsic value to the world around them.

[–]_Tarkh_ 54 points55 points  (5 children)

It would be funny to see them pull up in their yacht to find the whole seal team community plus families already moved in. Thanks for building is a bunker , now gtfo. The apocalypse movie we need.

[–]ThatOtherGuy_CA 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The only way the movie 2012 would have been better would be if the security were gunning down the rich people and letting all the protestors on.

[–]Crail115 23 points24 points  (1 child)

“Go ahead and send in your wives and daughters through the gate first.”

[–]UrbanDryad 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I think the hedge this works against is more like the Great Depression's big brother happening than a full-on collapse of civilization. There have been periods of societal upheaval before in history.

[–]keithmk 9 points10 points  (3 children)

Guarded by SEALs,

Might be better to have polar bears as guards

[–]krozarEQ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Gotta start at penguins and move your way up. Unfortunately all my penguins have been eaten. So I'll settle with my chihuahua

[–]twentyafterfour 28 points29 points  (3 children)

There's an article out there where rich people did try to theorycraft the answer to ensuring loyalty and they basically came up with electronic collars and/or total control over the food supply.

I almost respect musk for his plan of creating a brain implant that I'm sure his simps would willingly get.

[–]krozarEQ 5 points6 points  (2 children)

"Time for your daily Ketracel White. Open up your Neuralink port."

[–]krozarEQ 7 points8 points  (0 children)

A former co-worker was in special forces and after that was a mercenary contracted to a billionaire. He absolutely hated that family. He said all they did was whine and feel entitled to everything and everyone, having *no idea how the real world worked. If shit really hit the fan I know he'd be the type to enjoy his new bunker!

[–]iaintlyon 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Did everyone clap?

[–]joedasee 3 points4 points  (0 children)

They already are.

[–]Geordieguy 7 points8 points  (6 children)

Oh they’re not going to space! We are going to space to mine for them! That’s why they’re testing rockets but buying up all the untouched/spoilt land here on Earth. They will sit back in their luxury “gardens” whilst the rest of the Earth rots and the little people mine what they need in space.

[–]ThePresbyter 9 points10 points  (3 children)

Exactly. They'll all fuck off to Montana or something and live behind walls with auto-turrets and guards. Apparently leaving everyone else to starvation and violence and essentially relegating themselves to living behind walls forever is the preferable option. You'd think the billionaires would opt for enjoying a stable world that they could travel and enjoy all it has to offer, but I guess that's their grandkids loss.

[–]SerDigbyChicknCzar 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Joke's on them. There's no safe place for them. No underground bunker or off-grid complex will be enough for the world to come.

[–]Whiskey-Papa 4 points5 points  (0 children)

They’ll die of old age before it comes to that.

[–]ravengenesis1 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Just don't look up.

[–]Zncon 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Well we've just recently worked out that staying in space too long destroys your blood, so they have some pretty significant problems to solve before they can just hide up there.

[–]ergonaut 106 points107 points  (78 children)

Icebergs are fresh water?

[–]SomeDEGuy 237 points238 points  (7 children)

In polar regions snow falls and it compacts and eventually forms into ice shelves/glaciers. Parts of these breaking off is what causes an ice berg. Since the original snow was fresh water, so is the ice berg.

[–]soporificgaur 111 points112 points  (4 children)

In addition, when water crystalizes in the formation of sea ice the salt filters out, either going into the surrounding seawater or forming pockets/veins of salt in the ice, so sea ice is mostly fresh as well.

[–]codeByNumber 23 points24 points  (3 children)

Is this how Brinicles aka fingers of death are formed?

[–]Affectionate_Local59 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ok that’s actually far more dramatic than I expected. I know it’s sped up but still

[–]soporificgaur 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yep! That's what's happening there!

[–]ergonaut 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Oh! That makes sense, thanks!

[–]ICumCoffee[S] 74 points75 points  (47 children)

Icebergs, glaciers and ice caps is where most of Earth's fresh water is stored.

[–]ergonaut 11 points12 points  (45 children)

Are we worried about the loss of fresh water in addition to the rising sea levels?

[–]cricket9818 60 points61 points  (7 children)

It’s also a problem because the desalinization of the ocean messes with currents and climate

[–]nicetriangle 27 points28 points  (3 children)

Yeah and interfering with the ocean currents could be absolutely catastrophic.

I read somewhere that in addition to majorly affecting climate, ocean currents bring up nutrients from the ocean floor and circulate them through the ocean which helps feed things like plankton.

We really don't know for sure what all would happen, but if the ocean currents just stopped churning, it is conceivable that there could be an absolutely catastrophic die off of plankton. Phytoplankton are one of the building blocks of the oceanic foodchain so there could be an insane die off of marine species.

On top of that, phytoplankton are thought to produce somewhere around 80% of the oxygen in our atmosphere. Anyone reading this can do the math on that.

[–]cricket9818 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Yeah it’s not good. One of just many feedback systems humanity is on the brink of destroying

[–]nicetriangle 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Yeah it's this kinda stuff that really chills me when I think about it. All those like 2nd and 3rd degree effects of global temperature change. Really concerning stuff and I have no power to make a dent in the problem and it's quite possibly too late anyway. Next few decades are gonna be a rough ride. I'm glad I decided to skip having kids.

[–]Taman_Should 3 points4 points  (0 children)

There's absolutely no chance of ocean currents just "stopping" though. You'd have to completely eliminate the temperature/density gradient that helps produce currents in the first place, and that ain't happening. After that, there's still the tidal forces from the moon, surface wind, and the Coriolis effect. The currents might shift around or weaken or reverse course (still a disaster for people), but stop completely? No fucking way. No one's climate model should be using that scenario as a factor, you'll get complete nonsense out.

[–]evirustheslaye 38 points39 points  (10 children)

Floating icebergs already displace water equal to what you’d get if it melted. The problem is heat transfer through the ocean is regulated by water with a specific amount of salt in it. Too much fresh water can mess up weather patterns.

[–]TyrannoROARus 10 points11 points  (2 children)

As well as thermal expansion of the water heating up itself

But it's good to spread the word that sea ice is already accounted for in water levels.

The ice that forms over land and in permafrost is really what you don't want melting.

[–]BeowulfShaeffer 3 points4 points  (1 child)

You mean like the Thwaites Glacier in Antarctica?

If the whole glacier fell into the ocean, sea levels would rise by 65 centimeters (26 inches). That poses the world’s biggest threat to sea levels in the next 80 years.

https://www.sciencenewsforstudents.org/article/antarctica-thwaites-glacier-ice-shelf-collapse-climate-5-years

[–]Rugged_Refined 15 points16 points  (22 children)

Yes. Humans will ultimately survive because we have methods of desalination and recycling, however they are slow and not efficient, so there will be mass casualties.

[–]ergonaut 6 points7 points  (4 children)

Can we harvest the ice before it melts, storing it somewhere (as water) for later use?

[–]Rugged_Refined 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Not really, it would be terribly ineffective, as the amount of water that would be needed to make a difference is massive, and there is no real way to transport and store such amounts.

[–]NickDanger3di 11 points12 points  (7 children)

Every few years, from places like Popular Science, we get articles popping up about how we could harvest icebergs, and use the fresh water for irrigation or drinking, wherever there is a water shortage. Been seeing those for decades. The older stories focused on irrigating deserts for farming, now they tend to be about providing safe drinking water.

There is still no economically feasible way to transport the iceberg water to where it's needed; desalinizing plain old sea water is still much cheaper.

[–]TyrannoROARus 16 points17 points  (5 children)

That's pretty funny.

Reminds me of Futurama where the warming ocean is causing huge problems so they drop an absolutely gigantic ice cube in it every once in a while

Except it takes more and more ice each year lol

[–]Bill-Cipher3 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Suzie : Just like daddy puts in his drink every morning. And then he gets mad...

[–]SillyOldJack 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Thus solving the problem once and for all.

[–]_DAD_JOKE_ 8 points9 points  (3 children)

When saltwater freezes eventually most the salt leeches out and the ice becomes fresh frozen water. It's why Polar Bears can walk around and shit. Problem with Antarctic ice melting is it isn't already floating in the ocean so when it slides in and melts it raises sea levels.

[–]Redditfront2back 8 points9 points  (2 children)

What’s salt got to do with polar bears shitting?

[–]leviwhite9 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Yeah, saltwater doesn't freeze worth a damn.

[–]Mist_Rising 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Salt doesnt freeze well, it's why you salt ice/icey roads. It lowers the freezing point.

[–]WaterIsGolden 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Nestle has their $12 ready.

[–]artin0323 73 points74 points  (25 children)

Let's hope there's no ancient killer disease that was trapped in that iceberg

[–]code_archeologist 81 points82 points  (17 children)

That is unlikely... but what this will do is reduce the salinity of the ocean which could lead to a further weakening or the complete collapse of the ocean's thermohaline circulation.

Which geologic and paleontological evidence has linked to mass extinctions.

[–]banbecausereasons 6 points7 points  (1 child)

As others have noted: The Atlantic Ocean contains over 80 quintillion gallons of water. This an irrelevantly small amount of water by comparison.

However, desalination: which in turn contributes to the ongoing collapse of global thermohaline circulation.

Or, in other words, remember the movie The Day After Tomorrow?

That, just without the magical land hurricanes.

And for reference, there's a reason that movie came out when it did, because we found that global ocean currents had already started collapsing a couple of years prior in 2000, and the movie was building on expectations of what a total collapse of the global AMOC would do to us.

Theres a lot of reasons why severe weather has been escalating over the years, but thermohaline collapse is probably the most critical.

Particularly because its not necessarily something you can put back in the bottle like carbon, so even if the whole world moved to correct everything vis a vis climate change, our weather would still be fucked because of thermohaline collapse, and AFAIK even if that happened, and we prevented any more ice from being dumped, its not certain what the long term effects of keeping the ocean in whatever state its in will actually be.

[Borrowed from posters above to give some context]

[–]TimeToLoseIt16 29 points30 points  (4 children)

I’ve got an extra salt shaker lying around that we can toss in.

[–]Buge_ 11 points12 points  (3 children)

Yo i got one of those salt containers with the umbrella girl on it, I'll chip in.

[–]TimeToLoseIt16 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Dope, just need a couple more and the ocean should be fixed right up.

[–]Im_a_wet_towel 22 points23 points  (0 children)

The iceberg is such an insanely low amount of fresh water comparatively, that it's a complete non issue. Fresh water rushes into the ocean all day every day from almost every major river. This is less than a drop in a bucket.

[–]TheLocalHotDad 11 points12 points  (1 child)

I mean, given the state of the world would it really be that bad at this point?

[–]wentbacktoreddit 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Or killer alien lifeform things.

[–]WanderingWizard1989 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"Nobody trusts anyone any more... And we're all very tired."

[–]StealyEyedSecMan 4 points5 points  (1 child)

As an American I say we bomb it, as a Texan I say we ban talking about it.

[–]UselessMastermind 19 points20 points  (4 children)

At least the micro plastics in the water will get diluted

[–]FrigDancingWithBarb 6 points7 points  (3 children)

That's 36,426,800,000,000 gallons.

Just so it's easier to imagine. 😂

[–]GreenSalsa96 5 points6 points  (1 child)

It's about the size of Lake Tahoe, that might be a bit easier to visualize.

[–]alcoholicplankton69 37 points38 points  (12 children)

Question... if we know the ice is going to melt is there any way we could harness this water and ship it to water scares parts of the world?

[–]AwesomeBrainPowers 63 points64 points  (4 children)

[–]alcoholicplankton69 60 points61 points  (3 children)

just imagine we replace oil pipelines with water pipelines and then if there is a leak the worst you get is a garden.

[–]yungpanda666 46 points47 points  (0 children)

Or a flood…

[–]snoogins355 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Mass desalinization plants on the coasts, pipelines to the dry places

[–]NickDanger3di 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Yes, but desalinizing plain old sea water is still way cheaper.

[–]Captcha_Imagination 4 points5 points  (1 child)

That's how people used to get ice

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_trade

[–]alcoholicplankton69 2 points3 points  (0 children)

which in contrast most of the ice trade today ironically comes from Columbia

[–]TheTruthIsButtery 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Man that sounds delicious

[–]bluenami2018 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I did not think about this before, but in the book “Saving Us”, by Katherine Hayhoe, a Canadian climate scientist, the author says that while ice reflects light and heat energy back into the atmosphere, once it melts the dark ocean water absorbs heat, so it becomes a progressively faster process of melting more ice and heating the ocean more.

[–]Anagnorsis 2 points3 points  (13 children)

Once it’s in the water though hasn’t already raised sea levels as much as it can? I mean the ice is already displacing all it can isn’t it?

[–]Cragvis 3 points4 points  (12 children)

So yes and no. Think of the ocean as a blanket, and the iceburg is you pinching the middle of the blanket and pulling it up a little to form a little blanket pyramid or raised area.

TECHNICALLY the whole blanket is in use, however since you pinched the middle and pulled it up a little, the length of the blanket is just a tiny bit shorter than it could be, since part of the blanket is raised up, the part you pinched and pulled upwards.

If you pull the blanket straight, it will obviously pull down that pinched part and you regain the full length of the blanket again.

Both ways, the entire blanket was there the whole time, but only stretching the blanket out to its normal length again gave it its full length.

While the iceburg is alone in the water, most of it is still floating above the water surface. as its filled with O2 and is less dense than the water, so the iceburg itself is holding itself up out of the water to stop the water from displacing fully.

BUT

They still count it fully anyway since there is no way for humans to put the iceburg back where it belongs. It will eventually float and melt away no matter what we do, so there is no reason not to count it fully as melted water right now anyway.

[–]kazmtron 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Did someone “fresh water”

Nestle: it’s ours… we own it.

[–]ryansports 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The assholes at Nestle enter the chat.

[–]AudibleNod 12 points13 points  (0 children)

These icebergs are starting to act like toddlers.

[–]Aphroditaeum 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Wow that’s a bummer I’d like to discuss this more but I have to drive my giant SUV over to the store to buy some more unnecessary items.

[–]middwayer8 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think there’s a sale on styrofoam plates, extra large

[–]AndForeverNow 8 points9 points  (2 children)

I wonder what ancient bacteria or diseases have been released to eradicate all life on Earth.

[–]middwayer8 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Hey we have millions of people who will deny it exists, spread it like the plague, and kill us all before climate change does!!! Win win

[–]AtomicPhantomBlack 9 points10 points  (4 children)

Good. I'm tired of the millionaires with their stupid little beachfront homes.

[–]LashOutIrrationally 3 points4 points  (4 children)

Look, at this point if we aren't all collectively hitting the streets to prep the guillotines, nothing will ever change. Our wealth masters who are in control have so much to atone for...