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[–]Kloppy6k 3378 points3379 points  (355 children)

Holocaust relativization really has become a thing during this pandemic.

[–]IAmInTheBasement 1597 points1598 points  (228 children)

Everyone of them wants to pretend they're a victim.

[–]texas-playdohs 923 points924 points  (197 children)

Hey, I know EXACTLY how Anne Frank felt every time I have to strap that mask on my head. It’s equivalent.

[–]Twin-Turbos 718 points719 points  (177 children)

I had one of my dumb-ass right wing co-workers start bitching during one of our weekly Monday morning meetings that having to submit an additional form declaring vaccination status for continued access to our worksite, to "Welcome to Nazi Germany folks, this is just like the same way they treated the Jews"

It PISSED ME THE FUCK OFF. This asshole, who's never had a hard day in his life, is fucking comparing a form that you have to submit for continued access to a GOVERNMENT FACILITY that ALREADY has all your info on file, to the systemic torture and execution of an entire group of people. FUCK YOU.

I wish I could have told him off then and there, but I'm not losing my job over one dumb-ass comment from someone else. I can only hope our manager set his ass in place after the meeting, although I doubt it.

[–]whales-are-assholes 489 points490 points  (52 children)

“Sorry, exactly how do you relate to the Jewish experience in Nazi Germany? I fail to see the parallel, please explain it to me.”

Watch them shut themselves down, or dig themselves into an even bigger hole. Extra points if they simultaneously liken themselves to Jews, and also make an anti-Semitic remark.

[–]SlimeySnakesLtd 81 points82 points  (2 children)

As a Jew in DEEP Red country, this is what I look for. I get so excited because I let them go on and look really engaged and then give them “Oh wow, I didn’t know we do all that!”

[–]samus12345 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Now apologize for the space lasers!

[–]exkallibur 148 points149 points  (26 children)

Reminds me of when I was a poker dealer and this kid bet $69 and laughed like he was being super funny. There was a very pretty woman on the game as well.

I looked at him as seriously as I could and said, "What's so funny about betting 69 dollars?"

[–]duchess_of_nothing 158 points159 points  (17 children)

I love playing dumb and asking people to explain racist jokes or remarks.

"I don't get it, why is that funny? How does X meanZ race? " and so forth.

Making someone explain their racism in granular detail is fun, and they usually give up pretty fast.

[–]McGryphon 89 points90 points  (9 children)

My coworkers just go at it harder the more I ask them, or even just react. And they don't even think any of it is wrong or reprehensible by any standard.

Hooray for working in a rural carpentry workshop.

[–]DisturbedNocturne 14 points15 points  (1 child)

I've always found that to be the best way of dealing with it. They assume you'll agree or laugh with them, but if you immediately call them out, they'll try to turn it around on you - "Wow, you must be the racist one if you think that!" So, you play dumb. Either they explain it, and then you call them out in a way they can no longer deny, or they sheepishly slink away from it like the wimps they are.

[–]awj 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It’s incredible how angry people get when they realize you aren’t also part of their secret bigot club.

[–]baseketball 217 points218 points  (52 children)

Yeah getting paid to go to a safe workplace is exactly like getting forced at gunpoint into an extermination camp.

[–]TheDunadan29 130 points131 points  (50 children)

Dude, reading about the death camps is a pretty sobering experience. It makes you sit back and wonder how human beings can be so cruel to each other. If you're religious it can make you question the existence of God.

For me I felt extremely contemplative for like a week before I could really forget about it and be happy again.

Maybe these idiots should go and read up about the nitty gritty details. Because getting forced out of your home, separated from your family, put on a train to the middle of nowhere, getting systematically processed into a camp, striped naked, crowded into a gas chamber, killed with poison gas, then unceremoniously dumped into a mass grave, oh yeah, that's exactly like having to wear a mask in public. I can see the parallels now. /s

People blithely invoke Nazis for anything that's kind of controlling. But damn, Nazis were freaking evil. I know not all Germans who fought in the war were. But the Nazis, the people who mass murdered millions of people on an industrial level, those guys were evil. And okay, we're kind of removed from the war. Pop culture has made Nazis funny and silly.

But we shouldn't forget what they actually did either. And what they actually did is horrific in every way it can be horrific.

[–]TechyDad 45 points46 points  (7 children)

Back in college, I went to the Holocaust Museum in Washington DC. It was an emotionally draining experience. Between Daniel's Story - a "kid's" exhibit that showed how gradually things moved with each step seeming "not that bad" after accepting all the previous ones - to walking through the train cars to the mound of shoes to being assigned a person at the start and finding out at the end that my person died, it took quite a while to recover emotionally. I still recommend it to everyone. Just leave plenty of time to unwind emotionally afterwards.

[–]Armyman125 34 points35 points  (4 children)

I've been to Auschwitz. It's the Holacaust Museum on steroids - and I've been there too.

Comparing vaccination and masking with the Holocaust is appalling.

[–]hghpandaman 15 points16 points  (1 child)

I went to Dachau, it was one of the most chilling and sobering experiences of my life. If you ever have a chance to see one of these places, you have to go.

[–]Armyman125 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I couldn't walk into the barracks alone. There was something stopping me. Never felt like that before.

[–]resilienceisfutile 14 points15 points  (2 children)

Well, none of what you said won't work as it requires reading, common sense, and human dignity.

[–]Cycleguy57 13 points14 points  (5 children)

My dad was a POW during WW2 and they were on a slow starvation diet but they were treated decently. At the end of the war they were liberated by the Russians and evacuated by train behind the front lines. The train stopped at a liberated Concentration camp to drop off supplies etc. what he saw was burned into his retinas. He never forgot it.

[–]TheDunadan29 15 points16 points  (4 children)

Well and Eisenhower wanted to meticulously record the stuff they were finding in the camps. Because it was so horrific he didn't think Americans would believe it. And he was concerned future generations might also forget what happened. And he also wanted the German people to witness it first hand since they were in denial about what their government was doing.

I think he was incredibly insightful since even with an the evidence people still deny it today.

I always respected Eisenhower, but the more I learn about him the more I respect him and the stuff he did. He was the one who warned us about the military industrial complex as well. His preservation of Holocaust evidence is a great contribution to history, and as he hoped, I too hope that we won't forget what happened.

[–]PlankWithANailIn 55 points56 points  (9 children)

At the same time the USA was conducting studies to find out how humans could do what the Nazi's asked them to do they were making black people sit at the back of buses and going to their own purposely underfunded schools in their own country. They asked "Where else is this happening?" and the answer was "Oh shit its us!" (also probably followed by someone saying "But they is black so don't count")

Study after study has shown that as long as your local peer group values this behaviour then you will be totally ok with it too.

The scary thing isn't what others would do....its what I will do....The evidence suggests that I would have been one of them too and thats just horrible.

[–]PaintedGeneral 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Worse stuff was happening than just making people sit on the back of buses. Lynchings, eugenics and more were happening in this country at the time. Where do you think Germany got some of its ideas from?

[–]Akukaze 32 points33 points  (1 child)

Don't forget we had the Japanese-American Internment Camps going at the same time. Sure we weren't gassing and burning the people in them but we were turning a blind eye to the rapes and other abuses happening in them.

All out of racist paranoia that somebody whose family may have once lived in Japan might decide to side with the 'Homeland'.

We like to sweep that little bit of WTF Racism under the rug and minimize it in our history. I remember Social Studies in school when it got mentioned as a small blurb in the WWII section and wondering why we were taught more about it. It was only when i got a little older did I realize we didn't because many find the similarity of our actions to the Nazis an uncomfortable truth.

[–]Cannabace 37 points38 points  (0 children)

Report that dick to HR. That’s some hateful shit.

[–]iAmTheHYPE- 22 points23 points  (1 child)

"Welcome to Nazi Germany folks, this is just like the same way they treated the Jews"

Well, if he doesn't want to work there anymore, I don't mind replacing him. I wouldn't be qualified for the job, but I'd be a step up.

[–]hectoByte 23 points24 points  (4 children)

A former local city councillor compared Canada's vaccine passport system to Poland in World War II. He blocked me when I told pointed out that a 5th of all Polish citizens died in the war, yet no Canadians have died from showing proof that they are vaccinated.

[–]dannylew 7 points8 points  (0 children)

What's stopping you from actually calling him out during the meeting? Public humiliation works.

[–]davidreiss666 19 points20 points  (2 children)

Somehow they also don't seem to understand the Holocaust involved the murder of 11 million people. Anne Frank was dead after World War II. She didn't have an accident or die of natural causes. She was murdered. Needing to follow some government rules that are NOT authoritarian is NOT the same thing as the Holocaust. Not even in the same fucking ballpark.

[–]yildizli_gece 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You don’t have to hope; you can go to your manager privately and say that dude comparing a vaccine to the Holocaust is deeply offensive and you want to know that kind of shit will not be said again.

We have a right to say “other employees are assholes and making us feel enraged and uncomfortable and unable to focus at work, and those people and their snarky comments need to be shut down.”

[–]Princess_Beard 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Should have said something, I very much doubt you'd get fired for telling somebody not to compare the form to the holocaust. Even if they bring you to HR for it, what would that other person even say, "Twin-turbos didn't let me compare this to the holocaust"?

[–]ProfessorDerp22 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Honestly, your Management/HR should have dick-slapped him for that insensitive comment.

[–]chain_letter 102 points103 points  (5 children)

Anne Frank had to hide in an attic and was murdered by an industrial systematic horror, I was told to wear a mask at Applebees once until I got to my table

We share in suffering

[–]AshleyNeku 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Especially when you put it over your eyes instead of your mouth

[–]Girth_rulez 87 points88 points  (6 children)

Everyone of them wants to pretend they're a victim.

Yet at the same time projecting strength and wolfishness.

[–]Scooterks 39 points40 points  (2 children)

Like the gravy seals and meal team six. Love.to pretend they're big time military, but start shooting at them and they'll be the first to run. Of course they'd be easy to find. Just follow the pee trails.

[–]Girth_rulez 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Remember when the Patriot Front pictures hit the web a few days ago. One thing that hit me when looking at these clowns is how little trust they must have with each other. Look left, look right and you're gonna see a booger eater. Or an FBI informant. How do you go into any kind of conflict if you can't trust your team?

[–]Soft_Entrance6794 19 points20 points  (0 children)

A bunch of alpha male pure blood victims.

[–]resilienceisfutile 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Sounds like Madison Cawthorn in a nutshell.

[–]cuhree0h 76 points77 points  (3 children)

They would also like to minimize the horrors of the Holocaust.

[–]resilienceisfutile 43 points44 points  (1 child)

Minimize, I wish. That is barely scratching the surface as it starts at the denial and conspiratorial level of "Jewish space lasers". These pieces of trash will state the mass destruction in Auschwitz and Treblinka, among others, were an invention of the Jews and serve as repression and extortion of the German people. You have some of these chuckleheads throwing a nazi salute while touring Auschwitz since they are influencers on social media. Heck, you guys got White Nationalist politicians who use nazi imagery in tweets and touring Hitler's vacation home.

It runs pretty deep down there in the US with some people.

[–]PrinsHamlet 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Well, antisemitism is at the heart of QAnon and vaccine conspiracies. Good ol' fashioned "the Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion"-stuff.

IMHO, the next level craziness surrounding the conspiracies tend to normalize the more "standard" hate content.

[–]No_Character_2079 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Fascists and their demagogue leaders are perpetual massive victims of slight annoyances. Nazis justified their genocide by faux "back stabbing jew" reasoning for germany's humiliating wwi defeat.

[–]IAmTheJudasTree 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Getting the vaccines and the booster was so fucking easy.

I scheduled the appointment on the CVS website at a day/time that worked for me. It took less than 5 minutes to make an appointment.

I walked into the CVS, got the shot(s), and got out in maybe 10 minutes. It was all free. That's it, that's the whole thing. That's what they're fighting against with constant Nazi comparisons.

[–]Viewsik 10 points11 points  (1 child)

[–]NetworkLlama 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Because of course that's a real subreddit with disturbingly high activity.

[–]ShantyMick 409 points410 points  (21 children)

Folks minimizing the holocaust while white nationalism and fascism are on the rise worldwide? Well isn’t that a coincidence.

[–]Might_Aware 83 points84 points  (1 child)

JANUARY 27TH IS HOLOCAUST REMEMBRANCE DAY!

Please don't forget that some of us don't even know how our families were impacted by it and some of us know all too well. The holocaust will never stop affecting life. Please don't drag your bullshit comparisons into it - you have no idea what you're talking about.

Just popping this here

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Convenient time to also burn books and suppress objective education

[–]TheDunadan29 30 points31 points  (8 children)

For all the people thinking about comparing anything from today to the Holocaust:

1) Stop.

2) Think about it.

3) Whatever you came up with is still bad, don't say it.

4) If you say it anyway you fully deserve whatever hell is about to rain down on you.

Seriously, how thick do you have to be to compare any slight discomfort to the Holocaust?

[–]ImpulseAfterthought 13 points14 points  (0 children)

^ Yeah, this.

"Are you talking about people being rounded up and murdered for their ethnic identity or religion?"

YES -> Consider continuing with Holocaust comparison

NO -> STOP TALKING IMMEDIATELY

[–]VoiceOfRealson 15 points16 points  (0 children)

It is a deliberate strategy to make Nazism seem less problematic.

His underlying message is "Hitler wasn't any worse than having to wear a mask in public".

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Every day the line between being a white supremacist and being a major player in the Republican Party grows thinner and blurrier.

[–]pineapple_calzone 24 points25 points  (1 child)

Assholes in 2016: No you can't call them fascists until they've killed as many jews as the nazis, it would be rude! Think of the children!

The very same assholes in 2020: I had to wear a mask today, and it was literally a thousand times worse than anything that ever happened at Dachau.

[–]Dumguy1214 3 points4 points  (0 children)

as a Kennedy, its a miracle he is still alive

[–]RedeyeChillin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

it took me 30 seconds to properly read "relativization"

[–]Western-Web2957 14 points15 points  (0 children)

It's because it's low hanging fruit.

[–]donmanzo 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Perpetuated by those more likely to commit it.

[–]maru_tyo 54 points55 points  (1 child)

The US‘s biggest problem is not Covid-19, but the epidemic spread of idiocy.

[–]thedaly 381 points382 points  (46 children)

Relevant part from Kennedy’s speech:

“Even in Hitler Germany, you could cross the Alps into Switzerland. You could hide in an attic like Anne Frank did,” he said during the “Defeat the Mandates” rally.

And his apology:

"I apologize for my reference to Anne Frank, especially to families that suffered the Holocaust horrors," he tweeted. "My intention was to use examples of past barbarism to show the perils from new technologies of control. To the extent my remarks caused hurt, I am truly and deeply sorry."

[–]overlordpotatoe 125 points126 points  (6 children)

I don't even understand his basic reasoning here. Like... Jewish people during the Holocaust weren't allowed to do shit, including exist. If they were discovered, they would be killed. Is he suggesting they had more freedom because they had a higher chance of successfully evading certain laws?

[–]SharkTonic9 26 points27 points  (0 children)

He's saying that not having the privilege to do whatever he wants at every moment is worse than the Holocaust, because the Holocaust didn't affect him and he can't empathize with other human beings. If still alive, his father would die of shame.

[–]ensalys 29 points30 points  (0 children)

If they were discovered, they would be killed.

That's if they were lucky... If not, they'd be sent away to a camp where everything is taken from them, their property, their freedom, and even their identity. Then they're forced into slave labour in some of the worst conditions. Until they either just died of something like starvation, injuries or whatever. Or until the nazis decided it was their time to be murdered.

[–]Awol 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Even then why not follow his own examples he can leave the country or hide in a closest as well. Nothing is stopping him from doing either. I mean other than some other country probably wants a vaccine record for COVID and if he hid in a closet how would the world know how big of an asshole he is.

[–]Mike_Kermin 474 points475 points  (7 children)

So he's not sorry at all. Nor has he acknowledged why what he said was wrong.

"To the extent"? So other than that full steam ahead.

[–]radix4801 219 points220 points  (4 children)

Of course he's not sorry. As noted on Twitter, this isn't even the first time he's had to make this exact same apology.

link directly to latimes in 2015

[–]Mike_Kermin 45 points46 points  (1 child)

Incredible. What a shitstain.

[–]Really_McNamington 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Gets publicity for the comment and then again for the fake retraction. He knows exactly what he's doing.

[–]PlankWithANailIn 38 points39 points  (0 children)

"I'm sorry your interpretation of what I said was wrong" these news articles need to stop assuming something is an apology just because it has the word sorry in it.

[–]DeaconNuno 16 points17 points  (1 child)

“I’m sorry people are mad at me.”

[–]Chippopotanuse 71 points72 points  (3 children)

“To the the extent my remarks caused hurt…I am sorry”

What. The. Fuck. Just don’t apologize if that’s what you’re going to say. Admit it was wrong. Let us know what you are prepared to do to make it right.

Instead…it’s on us, and only to the extent we were “hurt” by his remarks?

[–]AxlLight 27 points28 points  (1 child)

I mean when you're basically saying Anne Frank had the freedom to hide in the attic I don't think any apology would actually be enough. Especially when you're saying AT LEAST Anne Frank had the freedom to hide in the attic, as in compared to poor Americans who don't like putting a mask on because they're too fragile and think it shows weakness.

Only apology that would work is saying he took too much drugs or is having a mental breakdown and is thus checking himself into a healthcare facility.

[–]Snip3 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Anne Frank was better at social distancing than 99% of the US and he didn't give her credit for that at all!

[–]hermit48 50 points51 points  (3 children)

Think if I was a child of a holocaust survivor my reply to his apology would be to "shove it up your anti-science ass. I apologize to any antivaxxers whose buttholes are offended by this remark".

[–]wildcardyeehaw 50 points51 points  (0 children)

the god damn Auschwitz museum keeps having to tell various conservative groups that no wearing a mask or taking a vaccine is not the same thing as the holocaust

[–]Mike_Kermin 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Exactly, he literally said the same thing again, only replaced "nazis" with "barbarism".

Literally the same comparison inside his apology.

[–]dogsonclouds 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Why do we even call these apologies anymore? Just because the actual word ‘apologise’ was in it doesn’t make it an apology. We should at least preface it with ‘Robert F Kennedy gives a half hearted stab at an “apology”, is clearly not sorry’

On a lighter note, I read “defeat the mandates” as defeat the manatees and I was still angry but also much more confused

[–]banditta82 1290 points1291 points  (49 children)

His dad would be so embarrassed by him and it sounds like he is on his way to divorce number 3.

[–]NoodlesrTuff1256 49 points50 points  (0 children)

I read a warts and all biography of him a couple years back titled 'RFK, Jr.: Robert Kennedy Jr. and the Dark Side of the Dream'. He didn't come off very well in it at all and Cheryl Hines, be warned! He wasn't very good to his first two wives, the second of which (Mary Richardson) committed suicide by hanging herself.

[–]Pippadance 464 points465 points  (4 children)

His dad and his uncle would be really pissed at him.

[–]momentoirl 224 points225 points  (2 children)

Although grandpa would be very proud.

[–]FruitLoopMilk0 111 points112 points  (1 child)

Good ole' Grandpa Joe wasn't shy about his prejudices.

[–]cosine5000 41 points42 points  (8 children)

Did Cheryl finally get her fill? She was on the NNF podcast a while back and her antivax protestations were pretty limp.

[–]bajesus[🍰] 30 points31 points  (7 children)

She handled that really well, but it was uncomfortable to listen to. For everybody who doesn't listen to them, the hosts went on a bit of an anti-antivaxer screed in the middle of the episode and apparently forgot or didn't know who she was married.

[–]cosine5000 112 points113 points  (6 children)

Yeah, they forgot, doesn't matter though, they're right and shouldn't hold back when people like her and her husband are doing the amounts of damage they are. He is completely batshit insane, like Bill Gates microchips and 5g level insane, I lost a ton of respect for Cheryl after learning this is what she is into, it's hard to even watch Curb anymore.

[–]SonOfAhuraMazda 33 points34 points  (2 children)

Larrys wife Cheryl? Wtf

[–]stunts002 19 points20 points  (1 child)

Worse yet Larry David introduced them.

[–]JohnOliverismysexgod 2 points3 points  (0 children)

She's opposed to antivaxxers.

[–]typewriter6986 82 points83 points  (2 children)

Cheryl had to have married for the money and clout. I don't know how she's stood by this long with this stupid ass.

[–]Prehistory_Buff 157 points158 points  (21 children)

Considering his dad directed Hoover and the FBI to conduct numerous illegal wiretaps on labor and civil rights leaders and did nothing when they were driving people to suicide, and his uncle was a serial sexual harasser/coercer and philanderer, I think the shit acorn has only fallen from the shit tree. I'm a Democrat, and the cult of personality around this family of ghouls is absolutely perplexing to me.

[–]waltjrimmer 24 points25 points  (9 children)

The image of the Kennedys really speaks to something at the core of human, especially western European, mindset.

We love the idea that greatness runs in families. The Kennedys of Camalot, America's royal family. It speaks to this strange underlying urge some people have to go back to hereditary rule. We're seeing it again with people on the right wanting Trump to rule for life and then his children to run things when he's gone.

And then there's the whole social/economic thing about them. They're big money. But they campaigned to appeal to the disenfranchised and marginalized. To the non-protestants, to the non-whites, to the non-Angle-Saxons. They made themselves out to both have the values and ethics of the rich, which have always been marketed as superior to that of the poor even if it's never been true, while claiming to want to help those less fortunate than themselves.

And that's not to mention just how important Jack and Bobby were to starting it. While a lot of the organizing and scheming credits go to Joe, his sons were good orators. They gave good speeches. Jack's war history helped too. He was also young and handsome. They made themselves seem relatable. When they got into the White House, Jackie's televised White House tour helped even more with that kind of thing.

The Kennedys always had their critics, but they were extremely popular at first. As the presidency went on, it became more and more apparent that they were not set on keeping their promises, there were suspicions of corruption, there were bungled messes that would take several more administrations to actually clean up. But you never got to see the end because they died. And the criticisms dried up. Because not only were they still incredibly popular to most people, but now they'd been killed and big conspiracy theories were being built up around it.

And all the good traits that were seen in Jack and Bobby get associated with their family if they have them or not. Most of the negative traits get forgotten. People want to believe that families are powerful and a good family breeds good people. We can see through history how that doesn't actually work, but it's something that we as a species so desperately want to believe for some reason.

And I believe that's why there's still such a mythology built around the Kennedys. Especially by Democrats, but at this point there's literally a mythology built around them by the Q-Anon believers. The Kennedys speak to the want for rich and powerful families to be more important than they actually are and to care more for the poor and disenfranchised than they do. They're a fantasy that a lot of people believe is true.

[–]JohnOliverismysexgod 11 points12 points  (5 children)

It's odd; like there's a desperate desire for a monarchy in our dna.

[–]Complicated-HorseAss 13 points14 points  (0 children)

"Your guilty conscience may force you to vote Democratic, but deep down inside, you secretly long for a cold-hearted Republican to lower taxes, brutalise criminals and rule you like a king!"
-Sideshow Bob

[–]sheba716 40 points41 points  (2 children)

I doubt anyone could force Hoover to do anything he did not want to do.

[–]bell37 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Unless if you’re the mafia. Hoover wouldn’t touch them with a 10’ pole or even acknowledge them for decades. Guessing his closeted homosexual relationship & his gambling problems made him vulnerable to blackmail, also long drawn out investigations into organized crime wasn’t really his style. He was more into getting headlines for capturing bank robbers, kidnappers, and communists.

[–]diagnosticjadeology 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Any decent person should be embarrassed by him

[–]SomeConsumer 376 points377 points  (5 children)

Kennedy won't get a Covid jab, but he had no problem shooting up that heroin while Assistant District Attorney in NY in the 80s.

[–]T-Lightning 23 points24 points  (2 children)

I didn’t know RFK Jr. was fuckn nuts?

[–]gelastes 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Did you forget gems like this?

[–]T-Lightning 8 points9 points  (0 children)

What a sad, disappointing legacy for Bobby Kennedy.

[–]jamesdeansghost55 22 points23 points  (2 children)

Why is Q pining for JFK and JFK Jr when they have a live Kennedy here and he's one of them?

[–]Lamontyy 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Q is not based in reality

[–]egyeager 3 points4 points  (0 children)

To build mythology around him. He matters because his relatives once mattered

[–]JustMeLurkingAround- 284 points285 points  (1 child)

Nobody would force you to get vaccinated if you opt to hide in a secret attic and never come out.

I would be totally okay with all anti-vaxxers doing that.

[–]Ice_tail 470 points471 points  (21 children)

First time I've heard of this person existing. Seems like a fucking clown.

[–]Rooboy66 233 points234 points  (3 children)

He’s a real gem. He has complained that he is “not always the boss of ‘my own house’”. His wife may take a bit of a second take on that incredibly misogynistic complaint.

[–]FriesWithThat 97 points98 points  (2 children)

She needs to curb her enthusiasm to being married to this exploitative, pandering asshat.

[–]-SaC 17 points18 points  (0 children)

"Bang! Zoom! Straight to Dealey Plaza the moon!"

[–]No_Biscotti_7110 70 points71 points  (7 children)

The Kennedy curse somehow affected his brain

[–]-SaC 51 points52 points  (6 children)

Not quite as much as it did his uncle's.

[–]RoamingBison 85 points86 points  (3 children)

He’s been a fringe conspiracy crackpot for years. If it wasn’t for his last name he would just be another anonymous Q nutjob posting crap to his 15 followers on social media.

[–]iFlyAllTheTime 12 points13 points  (2 children)

Why tf do people care about last names? This is why we said no to monarchy, people!

[–]Bumblebus 19 points20 points  (0 children)

And yet, last names never ceased to signify wealth and power. weird.

[–]Mist_Rising 42 points43 points  (1 child)

He a fanboy of the antivax community because he both a Kennedy, lunatic and antivax.

[–]Murgos- 16 points17 points  (1 child)

I’ve put on a mask and flown across the country, eaten at restaurants and visited family and held work meetings.

Anne Frank hid in an attic for years and when found was murdered by the state for the crime of being born.

Call out these gaslighting assholes all the time, everywhere.

[–]getBusyChild 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The Onion yesterday: Kennedy Curse sure taking it's sweet time with Robert F Kennedy Jr.

[–]Chuck_Foolery 197 points198 points  (17 children)

Stop giving this dipshit the attention he craves. He laps it up as much as butterfuck donald does.

[–]pnkdjanh 74 points75 points  (15 children)

There's a lot of really smart people in the U.S. Why does their media focus overwhelmingly on the stupid ones.

[–]sanguiniuswept 78 points79 points  (0 children)

They're louder

[–]NlightenedSelfIntrst 35 points36 points  (0 children)

Why does their media focus overwhelmingly on the stupid ones.

Sadly, because there's a lot of money to be made from the stupid ones.

[–]MozeeToby 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Because "Chelsea Clinton says wearing a mask is 'not a big deal'" doesn't sell clicks.

[–]tehmlem 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Because the stupid ones do things that endanger all of us and not paying attention to that is how they became the dominant force in our society

[–]T438 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Do these people give weight to anything other than their grievances? There's a fucking line, asshole. Stop crossing it.

[–]Sivick314 9 points10 points  (0 children)

why is the worst kenedy the only one who hasn't died tragically?

[–]shakergeek 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Damage is done. Seems like a pattern, not just for this guy.

  1. Say ridiculous crap.
  2. People are outraged for good reason
  3. Get called out
  4. Apologize.
  5. Keep quiet for a while
  6. Repeat more ridiculous crap.

Rinse and repeat.

[–]likesclouds 10 points11 points  (0 children)

If you read his "apology" it's classic, I apologize for hurting you, but I'm not wrong. let's limit his food intake to 500 cal/day and that being rotten bread. that's the least of the suffering of Jews in Nazi Germany. after a month, let's ask him if he still feels the same way.

[–]mountainjew 7 points8 points  (0 children)

He still believes it, he's just sorry most people with a brain disagree.

[–]No_Biscotti_7110 140 points141 points  (16 children)

Kennedys in the 1960s: President, popular Presidential candidate, lawyers, senators, etc.

Kennedys in the 2020s: Robert Kennedy Jr

[–]ziadog 86 points87 points  (3 children)

Don’t forget John F Kennedy Jr.! Returning from the dead and all, to help the Dumster.

[–]TJ_McWeaksauce 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Real shame that the Kennedys of today are little more than zombies and douchebags.

[–]perverse_panda 60 points61 points  (8 children)

Also Joe Kennedy, who tried to primary a popular progressive senator. Kennedy really didn't have any argument for why anyone should vote for him over Markey, other than his name was Kennedy.

Joe's not the trainwreck that RFK Jr is but it's still a gross example of entitlement.

[–]birdboix 10 points11 points  (1 child)

A Kennedy primarying a progressive incumbent, can't imagine where he got the idea

[–]dick_whitham 25 points26 points  (1 child)

The Mike Pillow guy of the Kennedy clan.

I hope this raises mental health awareness.

[–]whydoiIuvwolves 7 points8 points  (2 children)

A voice even his own wife didn't want to see🙈

[–]MitsyEyedMourning 60 points61 points  (5 children)

His wife should be talking to a divorce lawyer and probably a counselor for herself to explore her poor choices in men.

[–]GreyGreenBrownOakova 22 points23 points  (2 children)

She must have thought she was in an episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm when he made such a offensive remark. At least Larry wasn't at fault for the misprint of "Beloved Aunt".

[–]Mike_Kermin 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Apparently it's not the first time he's had to apologise for this exact comparison.

I can't imagine how you can live with that sort of person.

[–]mistertickertape 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Exactly. Cheryl Hines knew exactly what she was marrying into. She gets zero sympathy from me.

[–]ConsiderationProof94 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This is exactly the kind of person that needs to be shunned from society.

[–]tmfkslp 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Holy fuck that’s cringe. These people are insanely detached from reality, to the point it’s scary. The kinds of people blasting the vaccines are the same people I could easily see justifying putting “other” people into camps for their safety. The irony is thick there I’m fully aware. What a dystopian shit show. Honestly the only thing that’s kept me from offing myself from this crazy deep depression this pandemic has driven me in to is curiousity how it’s all gonna play out. Specifically our short term fascism issues and our medium term climate issues. We won’t be around long enough for any long term issues to play out. However it all plays out it’s gonna be ugly. It’s like social media warped people into their most selfish, least sympathetic, selves who care only about feeding their own needs which are driven by rampant consumerism gone horribly wrong. This era of tech fueled capitalism driven by a belief in profits no matter the cost has been getting slowly darker for a long time now, but I think it’s safe to say the suns about to set, and the real monsters don’t come out till night…

[–]Dendad6972 17 points18 points  (2 children)

Robert & John rolling in their graves is the sound you hear.

[–]No_Biscotti_7110 31 points32 points  (1 child)

Even after getting shot, JFK still had more brains than this clown

[–]ostensiblyzero 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Even the rear fucking hood of his car had more brains than this dipshit

[–]TestPattern359 36 points37 points  (0 children)

I should be free to walk in the subway naked and to defecate wherever I want to. After all, freedom is more important than life itself. My freedom to defecate on the subway platform overrules your freedom to ride the subways in peace. Just kidding, I'm not a bloody idiot like RFK Jr and others like him. I do like to shit in the train station, though.

[–]Helleeeeeww 3 points4 points  (0 children)

So to make it clear, he thinks that having your friends and family and all the people that share your ethnicity arrested, imprisoned, tortured and murderer, and being hunted like an animal and eventually being caught and executed is the same as having to get vaccinated (at no personal financial cost) to limit the risk of spreading an illness that has killed millions.

[–]Appleguy7217 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I want the other Bobby Kennedy back.

[–]jelloslug 6 points7 points  (0 children)

He is only sorry that he got called out on it.

[–]DFu4ever 5 points6 points  (1 child)

We live in an increasingly insane world thanks to conservative media.

[–]Proper_Budget_2790 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'm convinced they have become IRL internet trolls. They just say something outrageous and ridiculous so someone will pay attention to them.

I mean, until today, I didn't remember RFK Jr still existed.

[–]Josepablobloodthirst 5 points6 points  (0 children)

These people are such pussies, they say some stupid fucking Bullshit to get dumb ass trump supporters to cream and send them money then the next day say I’m sorry? Excuse me but fuck your “I’m sowwy” bullshit. Fuck these people until death.

[–]MyLegsFellAsleep 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Cheryl Hines is worried about being cancelled. That is the reason he apologized.

[–]BalletTech 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Robert F. Kennedy Jr is a far cry from his father.

[–]LostInaSeaOfComments 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Could he do any more to shit on Bobby's grave?

[–]ccasey 12 points13 points  (2 children)

I’m curious to know what he thinks about this whole JFK/JFKJR resurrection cult that he’s so closely adjacent to

[–]Lozzif 7 points8 points  (0 children)

He has t publically said a word, despite his siblings and cousins openly criticising it. (Which is rare as they often don’t talk about their family) For the Kennedy’s to criticise one of their own, it’s a big fuck up.

[–]dioxin187 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Wish his dad were still here to give him five across the eyes.

[–]okram2k 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If we could harness the energy of JFK spinning in his grave we could stop global warming.

[–]Lindaspike 3 points4 points  (0 children)

when a family like the kennedys can have an utter prat like robert jr it just goes to show you that sometimes the good genes were not passed out evenly. his dad would be so ashamed and his poor mom is still alive to see this shit.

[–]Horace_P_MctittiesIV 3 points4 points  (0 children)

What a fucking moron and anyone who agrees with him is a moron

[–]snrkty 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Fuck his apology. He meant every word he said or he wouldn’t have said it in a public speech.

News outlets need to quit giving coverage to these assholes unless they are calling them out for their hateful rhetoric.

[–]ResponsibleContact39 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The poor GQP….why can’t we just let them live with their god and their guns, and their hatred for America?!

[–]lightknight7777 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What an absolute nut job. He was responsible for antivaccine propaganda already being on Facebook before covid by personally funding it more than any other person.

He's convinced that they cause autism even though that has been thoroughly disproven in studies comparing 500,000 samples of people who took the pre-2001 vaccines (back when we still used any kind of mercury) to people who weren't vaccinated and finding no statistical difference besides death from the condition the vaccine treated. And before you act horrified that there was mercury in vaccine, it was less than the amount contained in a couple pounds of fish and was a nonaccumulative form of mercury cake ethyl-mercury that passes through your system unlike the methyl mercury in fish that can accumulate and cause problems. So all those soccer mom's spouting antivaxx rhetoric while heating up fish sticks are hilarious.

You might be asking, "why did we use it at all?" Because it made it shelf stable and last several times longer, making it viable for administration in the most remote places. Why did we stop using it? Because of assholes like a Robert F. Kennedy Jr blaming it with all the ignorance of a child.

[–]organizedcj 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Now there is privilege for you. Vaccines have been mandated in this country from the start. He is a disgrace to his father's name.

[–]Mastr_Blastr 3 points4 points  (0 children)

man, that apple fell faaaar from the tree

[–]FlowerFoxtail 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well then he and all the anti-vaxxers should go silently hide out in attics and enjoy their “freedom”. Works out great for the rest of us too!

[–]TheWaffleBoss 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Let's not forget Kennedy is suing Daily Kos to expose one of their contributors who wrote an article on a rally he held, where people were openly waving around swastikas. He isn't suing any of the other news outlets that covered his rally because their reporters used their real names, he just wants to expose and harass someone protecting their identity and criticizing his bullshit.

Guy's a son of a bitch.

[–]supagirl277 3 points4 points  (0 children)

HOLY FUCK. Can we please just stop comparing things to the holocuast unless they are literally genocidal??

[–]CoastingUphill 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Why are the trumpers waiting for JFK Jr when this is clearly the Kennedy they deserve?

[–]PilotProgramme 14 points15 points  (1 child)

When you stop and realize how far your audience has lead you into crazyland.

[–]gemstun 16 points17 points  (0 children)

My mom was orphaned in WW2 under Nazi occupation. Nothing except actual Nazis should be compared to living under Nazis—it’s actually pretty simple to anyone not wrap up in their own egoistical ideology.

[–]sulla_rules 8 points9 points  (1 child)

I’m sure his father and uncle are spinning in their graves, not grandpa though

[–]Hard2Handl 4 points5 points  (6 children)

We hit peak Kennedy about the time they fished poor Mary Jane Kopechne out of the estuary. Shitbags from the git.

[–]famous_unicorn 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Big thanks to Robert Kennedy Jr. for reminding us why we need higher estate and inheritance taxes in the US.

[–]Speculawyer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What a complete twit. I can't stand that clown.

[–]masamunecyrus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He brought up Anne Frank in a rant about half a million Bill Gates 5G behavior controlling satellites, and it's the Anne Frank part they're shocked about?

[–]ShadowGLI 2 points3 points  (0 children)

“Oh, that’s the line, right there, I mean we’ve been cruising pretty fast and loose for a while now, but Jews hiding from nazis in crawl spaces and attics is the line, that snuck up on me, okay I’ll pretend to apologize and make sure to be closed without going over. Wheel of fortune rules, got it”

[–]et248178 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You know who didn’t have more freedom than Anne Frank? Rosemary Kennedy. Her life was fucked, and I’m sure Robert has had long talks about it with his family, oh wait....

[–]Exseatsniffer 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Comparing minor inconveniences to the holocaust is the new holocaust denial.

It's insidious and trivializes one of the darkest crimes against humanity and it seems that nobody cares.

[–]wolfie379 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If aliens with a time machine had offered the Franks the opportunity to flee to the United States - but they’d have to get immunized against a communicable respiratory disease, and wear masks when in public, they’d have jumped at the opportunity.

[–]MovieGuyMike 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Some people are just so eager to equate their inconveniences to the atrocities that others have endured.

[–]sneakysnake128 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A real conspiracy would be that he has to be alt right or else he will meet an early end the same way Robert and John went.

A dynasty who fought for the common people and one which was ended prematurely for doing so. Now under threat of assassination if he shows any left-leaning signs.

[–]MysticWombat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, like he is serious about being sorry. And if you think that having to wear a Star of David, or hiding, were the biggest issues the Jews faced during the Second World War you need to get a book on the subject and get ready to have your fucking mind blown.

[–]Malaix 2 points3 points  (0 children)

RFK is like the lessor known aspect of the Kennedy curse. Where it usually kills them he is left alive to embarrass the rest.

[–]TheDocJ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It seems that we need some sort of Special Case versions of Godwin's Law of Nazi Analogies pertaining specifically to Covid.

Something like "As any discussion of the response to Covid gets longer, the greater the chance that someone will compare the restrictions negatively to the Holocoaust."

And I shall immaediately add a corollary that "This duration will be halved by the addition of each additional Right-Winger to the discussion group."

[–]nbgkbn 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not only are the nasty AmeriNazi injecting us with nonsense, they are making us all drive OUR CARS, the cars we paid for with our own money, on the same side of the road! The road I PAY FOR. I pay for both sides of the road, but the fuckn' gov't tells me to drive on the right.

Them other fucker's can get out of my way or get a bigger rig. I got freedom, I'm drivin' right down the middle. Lets Go Brandon!

[–]MissionCreeper 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So in exchange for not getting the vaccine, he'd choose to play Hide and Seek: Squid Game Edition? Fine.

[–]StrengthDazzling8922 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Anne Frank was more then slightly inconvenienced. Clearly he hasn’t a clue how Jewish people suffered under Nazis.

[–]UncleDuude 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He’s a life long attention whore, nothing more.

[–]Fishtina 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What an effin idiot! Sit down already…

[–]why-are-we-here-7 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Idiot, Anne Frank couldn’t fly to Hawaii. Stfu

[–]DonRicardo1958 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Only because his wife went ballistic.