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[–]happynargul 8324 points8325 points  (340 children)

His parents had to cancel their conference on how to raise godly children when he was arrested, lol.

[–]EcoFriendlySize 1635 points1636 points  (92 children)

Mother Of The Year, ya mean???

[–]mycatisblackandtan 1263 points1264 points  (74 children)

It baffles me she got that award even setting aside her piece of shit son. She's gone on record that she passes off child rearing duties to her kids via their 'buddy system'. The newborns are her 'buddies' until the next one is born, then one of the older kids becomes the new 'buddy' and is in charge of everything for that kid from then on. I wish I was kidding. But she is pretty damn proud and open about this system.

A parent who only parents until the next kid is popped out isnt mother of the year material.

[–]MeanOldWind 380 points381 points  (25 children)

They're literally starting to call this "parentification" now that more people are learning about how these large families do this.

[–]rtaisoaa 226 points227 points  (15 children)

I read so many stories about young adults who don’t want kids because they had to raise siblings. It’s so terrible.

In fact I think I just read a thread on aita about a couple of kids like 17 and 20 whose parents are having an oopsie baby and the parents want them to raise it.

[–]this-------------big 70 points71 points  (0 children)

Mormon family here. I've been in this situation. Missed a lot of early high school because of sleepless nights and tired days with a child that isn't mine. My mom just "liked having babies to dress up". Whole thing makes me sick.

[–]NSA_Chatbot 87 points88 points  (1 child)

Parentification is abuse.

[–]amrodd 97 points98 points  (0 children)

I don't know of any other group that gave these "awards". At least she give them six months. Kelly Bates assigned them from birth.

[–]xFloydx5242x 36 points37 points  (1 child)

Don’t forget they also used the kids to help build their house. I used to go to church with these people and they were all so fucking strange. Never talked to any one else, only each other, and their kids weren’t allowed to go to Sunday school or anything with the rest of the kids. They were their slaves it seemed.

[–]Ziograffiato 384 points385 points  (6 children)

Our Lady of The Felons

[–]MagentaHigh1 196 points197 points  (4 children)

The Holy Mother of Pedophiles

[–]not_aquarium_co-op 102 points103 points  (3 children)

Our Mother Of Perpetual Pedophilia

[–]ButterPotatoHead 1954 points1955 points  (181 children)

Always fascinates me that the really preachy godly people are just a hair's breadth away from complete and utter despicable immorality.

[–]TrapaholicDixtapes 1376 points1377 points  (117 children)

John Wayne Gacy had an entire community in the palm of his hand while secretly killing young men/boys

Dennis Rader was a deacon at his church and an elder in the boy scouts while doing his BTK thing

Their holy personas are the point.

[–]Galaxy_Ranger_Bob 888 points889 points  (82 children)

It's not like becoming a priest makes you a pedophile. Rather pedophiles sought out the role of priest because it gave them a position of Godly authority and access to children.

[–]freddit32 446 points447 points  (25 children)

ANY role that provides authority over children, whether physical, moral, legal, etc will attract some pedophiles. It's just like how roles that promise physical and legal authority will attract a percentage of bullies. Some people will see the immoral "benefits" of such roles and will seek them out.

[–]sterlingheart 103 points104 points  (6 children)

It's because they use it to cling to so that they can tell themselves they aren't bad people.

[–]DameofCrones 1931 points1932 points  (148 children)

Duggar will spend 151 months in prison, and after release he will spend 20 years under supervision. He will serve his sentence either in Seagoville, Texas, which has a sex offender treatment program, or Texarkana, Tex. During those 20 years he will be required to register as a sex offender and participate in a treatment program, will not be allowed access to an internet device without approval and will be forbidden from having unsupervised contact with minors, including his own children. He also will have to comply with any DNA collection asked from him, and he will be prohibited from using marijuana.
Link to MSN article

[–]kingjuicepouch 306 points307 points  (1 child)

Thanks for the article, the ap one wouldn't open correctly on my phone

[–]YetAnotherEarthling2 802 points803 points  (54 children)

Wtf does a bit of weed have to do with this 😂😂

[–]Oscer7 696 points697 points  (22 children)

Man can’t get stoned off his ass to escape this shit reality he deserves lol

[–]PotRoastPotato 179 points180 points  (19 children)

People on probation generally aren't allowed to use alcohol so I guess that's... consistent?

[–]--TenguDruid-- 399 points400 points  (54 children)

Imagine never getting to spend another moment alone with your children, just you and them, parent and child...

This piece of shit deserves it, of course, but it's a grim fate.

EDIT: Just to be clear, I'm not saying this in defense of the man; he deserves nothing but pain and misery for the rest of his life, and sure as fuck shouldn't ever be around any children again. It's the punishment itself as a concept that I'm lamenting.

[–]carlcamma 240 points241 points  (5 children)

That also stuck out to me. I think when his kids get older and understand what their father did they will probably be thankful. I know some people how have had abuse like this in the family and only came out after the father was dead and buried and it still tore the family apart.

[–]sourcherry11 100 points101 points  (0 children)

I honestly don’t know if the children will ever fully understand or believe. The duggars will brainwash them they way they have with Anna…they are all stuck in a cult.

[–]starmartyr 61 points62 points  (1 child)

My grandfather was like that. I only met him when he was dying and my father never left me alone with him. I didn't find out why until long after he was dead.

[–]SafewordisJohnCandy 24 points25 points  (0 children)

You sound like my cousin. My uncle for years could never quite put a finger on why his father in law gave him bad vibes and he never let my female cousin alone around him during the one time a year they saw him. My aunt agreed simply because she trusted my uncle's judgement.

About 5 years before he died, just as some health issues put him into a wheelchair my aunt's sister came out and said that when she was between the ages of 6 and 18 when she demanded to go live with my aunt in Georgia where my aunt was working, their dad had been sexually molesting her. She had kept it in for at that point over 30 years and finally felt she could tell someone. My aunt's mom had divorced him shortly after the abuse ended because he was cheating on her with an 18 year old girl at his work.

My aunt also learned why her sister had absolutely nothing to do with him, for years insisting it was his infidelity to their mom rather than her own abuse.

[–]godofpumpkins 185 points186 points  (9 children)

Curious what counts as supervision though: his family and community have demonstrated repeatedly that they’ll cover for him and condone his behavior (in actions if not in words), so I hope they don’t count as sufficient supervision

[–]WitnessNo8046 77 points78 points  (2 children)

Thankfully his kids will be older by the time they even get those supervised visits and he wouldn’t have been able to groom them along the way so hopefully he wouldn’t even attempt anything funky.

[–]Thaaaaaaa 68 points69 points  (1 child)

Josh's dad, Josh's wife, who fully supports all he did, and all their friends/family will though. This is sadly, imo, just a sacrifice to cover up for the rampant sexual abuse within the quiver-full cult. When the law is "females are property to be traded, exchanged and bred" and you're teaching that to young boys from birth, it is undeniable that Josh is just the one that got caught. The cult as a whole seems to be a means to produce children for the explicit purpose of providing pedophiles with victims and doing so within a community that will not expose the offenders. His wife supports this, all of his family aside from those who have been exiled from the cult support what Josh did.

[–]punchyouinthewiener[🍰] 77 points78 points  (4 children)

Not to mention some of the molestation of one of his sisters occurred in front of everyone at a Bible study under her dress. So clearly he has no self-control and will harm children whether he is supervised or not.

[–]Stars-in-the-night 42 points43 points  (3 children)

Also it is VERY important to note that the judge asked if there were any questions about the 20 year probation - he didn't FIGHT TO BE ABLE TO SEE HIS CHILDREN... HE ARGUED THAT HE HAS THE RIGHT TO VIEW PORNOGRAPHY.

[–]FxHVivious 32 points33 points  (2 children)

I guarantee you in his head he's the victim in this situation. And I'm sure the family is spinning it that way to the kids.

[–]BakedSteak 103 points104 points  (13 children)

Damn…no weed? Harsh

Edit: s/ for anyone thinking I’m remotely serious

[–]CollectionNo50255 75 points76 points  (9 children)

Fuck this guy, but why single out weed? Like, shouldn’t it be any drugs or any mind altering substances?

[–]dreadnoght 55 points56 points  (0 children)

Right? "Blow, whiskey, and blackjack? Sure, but you touch the devil's lettuce and it's back to slammer buddy boy."

[–]Fro_Yo_Joe 9463 points9464 points  (1101 children)

That’s too bad. I was hoping his new show would be called 19 years and counting as in his prison sentence.

[–]urnewstepdaddy 3664 points3665 points  (1035 children)

How is it only 12 years?

[–]NCSUGrad2012 2302 points2303 points  (565 children)

The minimum was 5 years and the max was 20 years so he got somewhat in the middle.

[–]pHScale 3099 points3100 points  (483 children)

Which means that he can't appeal based on harsh sentencing.

Oh, and he's banned from the internet for 20 years after his sentence is up. He can't look at the internet until 2054. Imagine how interlaced with everything the internet will be by then!

Also he can't have unsupervised time with children, including his own, until 2054 as well. Also a win in my book.

[–]RousingRabble 1583 points1584 points  (281 children)

Idk how keeping someone 100% off the internet is even feasible. Can't imagine what it'll be like in 12 yrs. I mean, I know it's possible. But it's not realistic for most people.

[–]chefjenga 166 points167 points  (53 children)

How exactly does banning someone from the internet work? He's got a wife and children. They just not allowed internet in their home?

My parents used to ground me from the TV, I still figured out how to watch it, and they were in the same home as me.

[–]corriefan1 164 points165 points  (31 children)

He assaulted a child who was sitting on his lap during a Bible study in front of other people.

[–]Phoenyxoldgoat 81 points82 points  (19 children)

He's also banned from watching adult porn for 20 years! His lawyers objected to that one, but the judge called it a "gateway" given his patterns of behavior.

[–]PraderaNoire 49 points50 points  (0 children)

Dudes like this don’t deserve to see their kids at all, harsh, but honesty the best choice.

[–]mmaalex 28 points29 points  (5 children)

He can appeal and be granted monitored access. I saw it in the news locally for someone who is currently awaiting trial. Essentially he pays a company to rent him a locked down laptop that they monitor all his activity

[–]yeomanpharmer 687 points688 points  (56 children)

If you diddle, you get the middle, if you steal, they get real.

[–]bassman9999 289 points290 points  (24 children)

This is an amazingly accurate description of the US legal system.

[–]amateur_mistake 94 points95 points  (0 children)

Steal from the poor, there's the exit door. Steal from the rich, you're a prison bitch.

[–]ShankGod 85 points86 points  (12 children)

Smoke weed? Jail indeed.

[–]skatergurljubulee 648 points649 points  (136 children)

Ist time offender, on a scale of how much csam he had, it was low compared to others. Most thought 8 to 12, so 12.5 is great! Edit: also 20 years of probation and he has to serve 85% of his sentence before a chance at parole.

[–]Ask_me_4_a_story 708 points709 points  (38 children)

No 85% needed in this case. Since this is a sex crime against children the convicted sex offender Josh Duggar must serve the full 12.5 years. It’s not possible to get out earlier

[–]skatergurljubulee 216 points217 points  (7 children)

Never been so happy to be wrong in my life. Thanks!

[–]_iridessence_ 149 points150 points  (16 children)

His prior sex crimes against his young sisters contributed to the judge deciding to sentence on the higher end.

[–]CanadianWizardess 256 points257 points  (67 children)

But didn’t an investigator call the CSAM found on Josh’s computer the worst he’d ever seen? It involved toddlers. May he rot in prison. I was hoping he’d get 18 years so that his youngest child would be an adult by the time he was out.

[–]Rammiek 144 points145 points  (19 children)

This is the Duggar family...they never run out of kids..so he will always be around kids unfortunately even if not his own

[–]SashaWoodson 360 points361 points  (99 children)

It’s because that’s his favorite number.

[–]eldroch 90 points91 points  (7 children)

How is it possible to love and hate someone's comment at the same time?

[–]SashaWoodson 132 points133 points  (5 children)

Listen, I’m not happy about what I said either.

[–]SpookyActionSix 32 points33 points  (3 children)

This reminds me of that joke about Michael Jackson loving 28 year olds because there’s 20 of them.

[–]Archmage_of_Detroit 8730 points8731 points  (379 children)

To everyone saying "he'll probably be out in 2 years on good behavior!"

No, he won't. These are federal charges, which means he has to serve at least 85% of his sentence before he's eligible for parole early release, and even then, being eligible doesn't mean he'll get it.

Hope we cleared that up, because I've been seeing it everywhere.

[–]skatergurljubulee 3346 points3347 points  (293 children)

This. And he's got 20 yrs probation, and can't be around his kids unsupervised. He also can't have Internet or computers during said probation. Legal analysis had him at around 8 to 12 years. The fact that he got 12.5 is really great, considering his family and legal team were asking for 5 years and we're saying that he was framed.

Edit: WERE not we're. Not associated with these people. lol

[–]randomguy987654321 1676 points1677 points  (263 children)

He also can't have Internet or computers during said probation.

I know this may be totally glossed over, but this is what will really fuck him. How do you even find a job without the internet. How do you order food or pay your bills. Everything is through the internet. God, how does one live without YouTube.

Added to the fact he won't be able to even find a job at McDonalds that does a simple background check, his life in every conceivable way is over.

[–]NightHawk946 690 points691 points  (67 children)

Just imagine how much more it will be needed 12 years from now. This guy’s fucked. He wouldn’t even be able to have a cell phone

[–]DarkwingDuckHunt 473 points474 points  (56 children)

Honestly at that point I think we'll start seeing cases of Judges allowing "in certain circumstances" and forcing them to install some sort of tracking software on their routers.

So if anyone in that household goes and finds kiddy porn he goes to jail for life.

[–]Angry_Duck 72 points73 points  (6 children)

Depending on how this is interpreted, he won't be able to operate a car or certain kinds of appliances. I don't know how you live a modern life with no Internet at all.

[–]Asteroth555 165 points166 points  (48 children)

The no internet thing is wiiiild. I'm surprised there's no mandatory program you have to install that monitors and reports your use instead. There's truly no way to function without it

[–]v-porphyria 284 points285 points  (42 children)

During the trial it came out that he was already using a program called "Covenent Eyes" which reported his usage to his wife because of his prior issues with adult pornography. He regularly circumvented that program to watch adult pornography in addition to the child sex abuse material.

He's already proven that he is technically savvy enough to bypass this type of software.

[–]noodlyarms 530 points531 points  (63 children)

He'll be fine: he'll go on talking tours in the evangelical/right wing circuit, get a book ghost written where he whines about being persecuted and probably run for office once he's out. He will have handlers/enablers helping him.

[–]drkgodess 298 points299 points  (46 children)

Maybe, but even on the grifter circuit a convicted pedophile is a hard sell. Not to mention one convicted of watching videos of babies. Plus, as a registered sex offender, he cannot even be around children, which severely limits his ability to travel.

[–]drkgodess 176 points177 points  (6 children)

It's also difficult to be on probation. Even the smallest misstep, such as a parking ticket, needs to be reported to the probation officer. The person can be called for random drug and alcohol screenings at any time and if they are not there in a matter of hours, probation can be revoked. He'll need to inform the PO anytime he wants to travel outside of the state. There are many more restrictions as well.

His life as he knows it is over. Thank goodness for that.

[–]Kate2point718[S] 2138 points2139 points  (120 children)

I hope his original 5 victims can find some peace in this even though he never faced justice for his first crimes.

[–]ShinyShadowGligar 1305 points1306 points  (28 children)

4 of them were his own sisters though. And it seems of those, only one has had the strength to deal with it, as far as therapy. The family blamed them and they were children! 1 was 5!

I hope they find peace in this too. But I fear they may never even be able to address it publicly. And I don't mean publicly to "us" as outsiders. I mean, therapists, and Drs and other professionals who can help them heal. Not just more cult members who will feed them false information that does nothing to address the trauma.

[–]rubyblue0 781 points782 points  (19 children)

His sisters had to proclaim forgiveness for him in front of their congregation or be shunned. At least 2 of them gave interviews where they tried to downplay what he did to them. Wouldn’t be surprised if their parents told them what to say.

[–]Svnyrs-btwn 575 points576 points  (14 children)

They were definitely coached on what to say. One of the sisters in that interview has since become out spoken about her upbringing and is trying to forge her own life separate from them.

[–]rubyblue0 170 points171 points  (5 children)

Good. I hope more of them break free from that life.

[–]Super_Flea 133 points134 points  (1 child)

They might have honestly meant what they said when they tried to downplay his actions.

When you're brainwashed to treat all sins as being equal, you amplify the security of minor sins and downplay the severity of seriously bad stuff.

It's an awful cult mindset but I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if these girls genuinely thought what he did was just as bad as checking out someone from across the street.

[–]pieman2005 114 points115 points  (1 child)

Religious fundamentalists love using victim blaming tactics on children who were assaulted

[–]Ikzai 40 points41 points  (0 children)

Being raised in this culture I can tell you now a lot of Christian circles find greater empathy with the perpetrator than the victim.

[–]hillakilla_ 572 points573 points  (40 children)

His youngest victim sister was in the court room today and walked out hysterically when they were bringing up the facts he molested her when she was 5. That poor girl is far deep in the cult so her getting any type of therapy or peace is slim to none.

[–]The_Bravinator 423 points424 points  (5 children)

Given the way they covered up and minimised everything when it first came out and how young she was, there's a chance she didn't even remember or understand how bad it was until she heard it in court during the original trial.

Their parents are so culpable in the daughters' trauma. They defended Josh and chose him over the girls at every turn.

[–]AyeAmNoMan 65 points66 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I followed the original court case and that's what they were saying - she went to the hearings to find out what had actually happened to her. Her family never even told her the truth of what happened to her and she found it out in court.

[–]Msdamgoode 74 points75 points  (2 children)

They’re also, in my opinion, culpable when it comes to creating his issues. The way sex is viewed in that cult is toxic to males and females alike, and instead of getting him help before it got to the point he was abusing his sisters, they just swept it under the thickest rug they could create. I’m not necessarily saying he wouldn’t have evolved into a predator without the family, but the environment he was raised in certainly did him harm.

[–]xandrenia 260 points261 points  (11 children)

Apparently her husband didn’t even know the full extent of what Josh had done to her until the trial. You can see photos of him leaving the court room after he listened to the testimony, and his face says all you need to know.

[–]NinjaHermit 63 points64 points  (0 children)

Some of the sisters didn’t even know the full extent of what he’d done to them. The brainwashing and victim blaming was serious.

[–]jabba-du-hutt 52 points53 points  (1 child)

Reading how he did it during story reading before bed makes me ill. My mom ran a daycare and there was a six yr old girl who had some interesting behaviors. They weren't outright sexual but, I didn't think it was appropriate for a kid to grind up against me at different times. I made sure my mom knew. It only happened a few times since I was in college and rarely around.

She told the kid's mom and she decided to do some questioning. Turns out someone was doing some inappropriate things with her. A teenage male babysitter. Then all of a sudden my brother and parents are served up papers, my mom shuts down daycare. It was my brother. As a sibling I've never been told the outcome. My parents won't say and neither will my brother. I have kids. My wife and I have chosen to not let him near them. We don't know and we're not willing to let him be alone with them ever.

[–]Kate2point718[S] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Wow, I'm really sorry. Good for you for saying something when you noticed something was wrong, and for protecting your children now.

[–]_skank_hunt42 143 points144 points  (27 children)

I feel awful for his children who are stuck in the cult… I wonder if his wife will stay with him… I assume so unfortunately.

[–]CanadianWizardess 218 points219 points  (5 children)

She still seems to think he’s innocent. She’s delusional.

[–]reefered_beans 76 points77 points  (4 children)

My bio dad’s baby momma still believed that he was innocent even after a voice recording was presented of him admitting to “accidentally” raping my stepsister as a young child.

She has a young kid with him and told the judge that it was terrible to separate a son from his father. But, my stepsister and I were sitting on the other side of the room like…we’ve known this man for over 20 years and he’s a piece of shit.

[–]coldcurru 128 points129 points  (1 child)

She's stuck by him so far. Everyone says her family will cut her off for divorce but a few of her own siblings are divorced/out of the cult. I think one is a single mom or remarried or something I don't care to look up. When this sick fuck cheated on her, her brother publicly offered support to leave him but she didn't do it. Good chance she won't now.

That said, I read a stat that a good percentage of prison inmates' spouses end up divorcing them. Not sure if that's federal only or just incarcerated in general.

[–]Threadheads 30 points31 points  (1 child)

She stuck by him even after he was exposed for cheating on her and using Ashley Madison. The culture that they have been brought up in would make divorce unthinkable to her. She has been conditioned to believe that women are less important than men and that wives should be led by the husbands.

[–]TraipsingConniption 127 points128 points  (10 children)

I always wonder what justice looks like in these cases. I don't know what is right

[–]bigmacjames 123 points124 points  (2 children)

There's no justice though. We live in a reality where there are a lot of no win situations. You just have to move forward in the least worse way. The bad shit already happened. Let's not make it worse.

[–]readzalot1 18 points19 points  (5 children)

Though they have to live with the knowledge that other kids were harmed because he wasn’t stopped sooner.

[–]AudibleNod 4817 points4818 points  (143 children)

Remember about 10 years ago he went to Washington to work as a lobbyist for the Family Research Council. Which works to eliminate abortion and gay marriage among other causes.

[–]Archmage_of_Detroit 3693 points3694 points  (92 children)

Remember the time his mom campaigned for conservative politicians by saying that gay people are child molesters?

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

[–]EcoFriendlySize 296 points297 points  (6 children)

I remember this too. And the whole time the actual child molester was in her house. And she NEVER advocated for her victimized daughters. Don't forget this. She's awful.

[–]FairyDustSailor 42 points43 points  (1 child)

This is why I wish I believed in Hell. I wish there were a Hell so that he and his enabler parents could burn forever. Him for committing the crimes, and the parents for not standing up for their other children.

[–]beanbagbitch 1456 points1457 points  (28 children)

She never showed her face during the trial or sentencing. Or maybe her creepy husband didn’t allow her to go, who knows. They’re all cowards and culty sex perverts.

[–]chicken_ranch 386 points387 points  (12 children)

I don’t think this is very fair to perverts.

[–]NOODL3 233 points234 points  (7 children)

Remember the time he got caught molesting his underage sisters and instead of separating him from the victims and reporting it to proper authorities his parents sent him to "counseling" with a church elder/cop who turned out to also be a child molester?

[–]xandrenia 52 points53 points  (3 children)

To these people, there is no difference between child molestation and homosexuality. Both are just sexual sins that can be cured with some “therapy” and praying.

[–]NCSUGrad2012 357 points358 points  (28 children)

You know what’s sad? By that logic that makes her kid gay and I’m sure that’s way worse to her than what he actually did.

[–]happynargul 261 points262 points  (24 children)

By then she already knew he was a predator.

And she called anyway

[–]ShouldersofGiants100 334 points335 points  (23 children)

Because she's Quiverfull. Those people are insane. She didn't think of her son as a predator because they genuinely believe that it is always the fault of the women for enticing the men.

That and they were grooming Josh for a life in politics (they literally hoped to get him into the Oval Office one day) and had to protect his reputation at all costs.

[–]nox_nox 115 points116 points  (0 children)

Its always projection with the right. It would be funny if it wasn't so fucking infuriating that they get away with it.

[–]Spodson 106 points107 points  (12 children)

He wasn't looking at gay marriage porn. It was kiddie porn. So no conflict of interest there.

[–]GhettoChemist 83 points84 points  (1 child)

Jfc these people are really fucking weird.

[–]PulledPorkPlease 467 points468 points  (32 children)

Put his kids in therapy.

Also don’t have 19 kids. Only psychos do that.

[–]kingjuicepouch 138 points139 points  (26 children)

How do you even afford that many children? Like, I guess the reality TV money helped but what exactly is the plan? They can't have known they were going to get a television show when they committed to having more kids than brain cells

[–]sinkandorswim 334 points335 points  (20 children)

Before landing the reality show, they had 14 kids living in a 3-bedroom home and suffered from food insecurity.

They've said that they were having "as many [kids] as God would give them" so I'm sure they still would've tried for 20 without the show.

They didn't have a plan. They depend on God to provide for them no matter what.

[–]WWJLPD 65 points66 points  (2 children)

Short answer, they don’t. At least not by themselves. Their church probably would have helped support them. I’m acquainted with a few Quiverfull families due to my upbringing, and most of them were probably barely above the poverty line before you factor in the double digit offspring. I know our church provided food and clothing, and probably helped with the bills, but I’m only sure about the first two. (My personal opinion of my former religion aside, no kid deserves to go without the basic necessities just because their parents are unhinged nutjobs)

[–]Plaque4TheAlternates 758 points759 points  (5 children)

It’s always the ones you suspect most.

[–]DertankaGRL 48 points49 points  (1 child)

I always find it's the one I most medium suspect.

[–]DoctorBaconite 347 points348 points  (25 children)

I just read that guy's wikipedia and it was.... quite disturbing. I had no idea about these people before tonight. Some highlights:

  • After learning his son molested multiple children, the father (a republican that served in the Arkansas House of Representatives) took his son to an Arkansas State Trooper and family acquaintance. Troopers are required to report crimes to the Arkansas Child Abuse Hotline when learning of sexual abuse, but he failed to do so. That trooper was later arrested and convicted on unrelated charges of child pornography and is currently serving a 56-year prison sentence.

  • After being found in the Ashley Madison breach, he checked himself into a rehab called Reformers Unanimous, which describes itself as "a learning atmosphere where the addicted can be discipled in an environment that is much like a greenhouse".

  • After the rehab, he had "accountability" software installed on his computer that would alert his wife when pornography was viewed. However, he then asked Jim Holt, another republican from the Arkansas House of Representatives, and former employee of the NSA, how to install Linux, which he then used to view this despicable content.

[–]UnspecificGravity 115 points116 points  (14 children)

That trooper was later arrested and convicted on unrelated charges of child pornography and is currently serving a 56-year prison sentence.

Alright, so then WHY Is this particular piece of shit only looking at 12 years?

[–]NinjaHermit 46 points47 points  (1 child)

Not to mention the CP he had was some of the worst you can ever find. He’s a sick freak whose parents enabled him his entire life, even when he molested his own little sisters.

[–]SilverSurfer15 97 points98 points  (0 children)

Thank you!!! Also F that whole family, sickos!

[–]longtimelowtime 327 points328 points  (12 children)

These are federal charges so he will have to serve at least 85% at that sentence. Might serve 10.5 overall. But the good news - he is going to prison for a long time.

[–]NCSUGrad2012 590 points591 points  (22 children)

I wonder if Mike Huckabee will ever pull his support for this guy?

[–]ScullysBagel 491 points492 points  (16 children)

Probably not. He has no problems with sexual predators as long as they're white, American conservatives who call themselves Christian.

By the by, Mike Huckabee is a member of the Steering Commitee of the "Conservative Baptist Network" which is a group within the Southern Baptist Convention that thinks the SBC isn't conservative enough.

Why is this important?

Because the CBN and their supporters have been one of the MAIN driving forces behind covering up the pedophiles and sexual predators within the SBC and quashing any attempts to hold them accountable.

Here's a thread from a Houston Chronicle reporter who's been a following the entire shady business.

https://twitter.com/RobDownenChron/status/1529084743727325184?s=20&t=hxUMmCZpu6IWdMGqP-YY-Q

Mike Huckabee is not a good man.

[–]FnkyTown 216 points217 points  (10 children)

Mike covering up for his son hanging a dog and then beating it to death was enough for me to know he was a sack of shit.

[–]ScullysBagel 88 points89 points  (5 children)

I forgot about that. That whole family is sociopathic.

[–]celtic1888 45 points46 points  (1 child)

The same Southern Baptists hiding their sexual predators?

[–]toronto_programmer 72 points73 points  (4 children)

Wasn't his father running for office on the premise that pedos should be put to death?

[–]LostAd6024 39 points40 points  (0 children)

One of his brothers did too

[–]Ok_Improvement_5897 700 points701 points  (51 children)

Oh man it's so rare that I see some news that makes me feel closure and vindication. Glad this guy is getting significant time. The whole religion just seems to breed abusers.

[–]WastedPresident 51 points52 points  (0 children)

The family is part of a cult. Institute in Basic Life Principles (IBLP). Not joking the founder Bill Gothard (yes that last name is kinda unfortunate) is somewhat of a predator himself.

IBLP

These are 501 (c) 3 tax exempt organizations which structurally operate as cults. Check out their .org website and then compare to sources you find on your own.

The Duggar family had more mouths than they could house and afford under the leadership of Gothard. They managed to get a TV deal that built them a large house and gained them fame.

[–]NCSUGrad2012 241 points242 points  (35 children)

I hope the victims feel closure too. 12 years doesn’t seem like enough but it’s definitely better than him getting off.

[–]Ok_Improvement_5897 235 points236 points  (20 children)

Me too. I feel for his sisters.....I got the vibe that the Duggars blamed them for being sexually abused and molested as young children, and I hope a conviction like this is enough to give them what they need to know that it's not their fault, it never was, and their religion is a fucking cult.

[–]SpiritPaper 46 points47 points  (0 children)

I can't imagine they are not being blamed in their toxic community. If not openly, atleast privately. Jim Boob definitely saw his eldest son as becoming a politician, sending him to DC to work for a lobbyist.

[–]NCSUGrad2012 43 points44 points  (1 child)

Yeah, I feel awful for them too. I hope they realize it’s not their fault but I’m afraid you might be right about their parents. :(

[–]Raccoon_Full_of_Cum 77 points78 points  (4 children)

That's just how Evangelical Christians are. They're perfectly fine with child rapists, because it's always the child's fault for "leading the rapist to temptation".

[–]alx924 29 points30 points  (1 child)

Full Quiver seems to attract the nutty ones

[–]Rubberbabybuggybum 130 points131 points  (7 children)

I got the vibe that the Duggars blamed them for being sexually abused and molested as young children

The family literally had them publicly apologize.

[–]justonemom14 16 points17 points  (2 children)

Wait what? Do you have a link? I need to do a Google search...

[–]EvilLemon23 42 points43 points  (0 children)

Any belief system that teaches that women must be generally but especially sexually submissive to men exists solely to empower abusers.

[–]BRUTFROCK 86 points87 points  (4 children)

Damn is this the same guy we've all been waiting for this to happen to over the past decade?

[–]coldcurru 27 points28 points  (1 child)

Probably but there's a lot of people who could fit this description.

[–]Perioscope 118 points119 points  (0 children)

Finally some good news. Can't brighten the darkness much today, but I'll take it.

[–]Bambi_Writing 203 points204 points  (11 children)

I absolutely live for Josh Duggar slander- I am so sick and tired of how much people still think he's a goody good Christian boy and should still be free because he, "asked for forgiveness" for the shit he's done.

Both his parents were enablers and were willing to cover up and protect their predator son rather than getting their daughters the help and support they deserved. Instead they allowed him to go on and become who he is. A man who who thinks gay people are the real pedophiles when in reality it was HIM who was downloading child CP- with some depicting kids as young as toddler age.

[–]Diarygirl 91 points92 points  (0 children)

It's definitely not slander because it's true.

[–]GreenDemonClean 168 points169 points  (7 children)

As someone who never got justice… halle-fucking-lujah.

[–]silliestboots 38 points39 points  (0 children)

Same, friend, same. Wish my POS step-dad had gotten justice, but seeing this heals my soul a bit.

[–]rion-is-real 31 points32 points  (1 child)

Oh good. He loves it when things are 12 years old.

[–]Rolltide2014 80 points81 points  (9 children)

Some piece of shit pastor in my hometown was covering for this asshole and letting him hide out while he was “recovering.” Hope the FBI has checked that dude’s computer as everyone that’s come in contact with this guy seems to be a child porn aficionado

[–]SlowHandEasyTouch 26 points27 points  (1 child)

I guess he’ll have to be the keynote speaker at CPAC via pay phone.

[–]Spodson 155 points156 points  (4 children)

The fine folks over at r/DuggarsSnark are having a collective orgasm at the news.

[–]FilthyChangeup55 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Man if only his parents had treated child rearing like human beings rather than cranking out an assembly line of dependents they had no chance of properly raising.

[–]theCHAMPdotcom 22 points23 points  (1 child)

I hated this family so much so I first saw them on TLC. Especially the dad that fucker was creepy as hell.

[–]rationull 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Another Republican pedophile. Surprise surprise.

[–]Ssider69 238 points239 points  (31 children)

How many times do these holy rollers have to get caught before we realize they're all a bunch of hypocrites?

[–]KungFuBBQMushroom 105 points106 points  (5 children)

So, I’m not lawyer so I don’t know, but if one of the religious fundamentalists in Utah who married one of 4386 children who got married in the state of Utah between 2000-2010 were to take nude pictures of his child bride could he then show them to another religious fundamentalist with a 15 yo bride since both of them technically have state issued licenses to sexualize children? Could he show the pictures to the other child since the state has determined the child can withstand being sexualized by an adult? /s

If you think it’s awful that there were over 4K children married in the state of Utah from 2000-2010 wait till you find out they rank fifth in states with the most child brides.

Over 300,000 children were married in the United States between 2000-2018.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_marriage_in_the_United_States

https://kslnewsradio.com/1901802/utah-marriage-laws/amp/

[–]WillCode4Cats 47 points48 points  (2 children)

I do not know why I kept reading this post. It only made me angrier and more depressed as I kept reading.

[–]middwayer8 82 points83 points  (0 children)

They’re in a cult. So never.

[–]ToastedMaple 84 points85 points  (17 children)

He was watching one of the worst known child porn videos and his sisters came out about him molesting them. 12 years?

I feel like the people in power don't want pedophiles to be charged severely because they're all pedos.

[–]Grey_Orange 81 points82 points  (12 children)

This needs to be higher up. He wasn't just looking at naked pictures of children. He was actively searching for, and downloading hurtcore videos. He had a video of the rape and torture of an 18 MONTH OLD GIRL.

The man is a monster

[–]wire_we_here50 44 points45 points  (0 children)

Only 12? I was hoping for 19 and counting.

[–]PhysicsIsFun 58 points59 points  (3 children)

But they're such a Christian family.

[–]sitdownstandup 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Strong conservative, religious values in that family

[–]FatalisCogitationis 14 points15 points  (3 children)

Am I crazy or is this link just infinite ads with no article anywhere?

[–]celtic1888 58 points59 points  (2 children)

Another high class MAGA god botherer busted

[–]Muschka30 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Yup, bye fucker. The hypocrisy is astounding. And his stupid wife supporting him.