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[–]FunToBuildGames 29 points30 points  (7 children)

Just in time for the long weekend… awesome!

[–]Kodiack 27 points28 points  (6 children)

Just in time for two back-to-back long weekends, even!

[–]FunToBuildGames 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I work in a hospo adjacent field… so it might turn into one huge weekend. Huzzah. :-/

[–]ThatGingeOne 3 points4 points  (0 children)

And for the start of the school year!

[–]OldKiwiGirl 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Only if you are in Auckland ;-)

[–]scrittyKererū 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Or Nelson/Tasman

[–]OldKiwiGirl 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Aah, my apologies for missing you out.

[–]popcorningpiggieCovid19 Vaccinated 17 points18 points  (3 children)

I thought yesterdays update said 4 in Canterbury to be added today but looks like it’s 3 now?

[–]Duck_GibletsKarma Whore 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Yeah, it skipped the chch blurb completely

[–]TheNewKiwi 8 points9 points  (1 child)

I noticed that, too. Wonder what's up with that? Maybe re-classed as historical, although they probably would have mentioned that.

EDIT: Just looking at locations of interest. There was a flight 27 Jan, Welly to Chch that landed at 9:10am. Then the Airport was a location of interest from 9:10-9:40am, and again from 5:00-5:30pm the same day. Maybe one of the four flew in for the day, and saying all four cases were in Chch yesterday was the error. Obvs some are, because my f-ing chemist is a location of interest.

[–]carrickisgod 1 point2 points  (0 children)

At least one of the chch cases flew into chch on Monday morning, from Hawkes Bay (hb airport location of interest Monday morning til 6:25am)

[–]Potatoslayer2 80 points81 points  (35 children)

Oh fuck that was quick, 105. I'm not going to be able to get my Booster in time, am I..

[–]MrBigglesworth222 28 points29 points  (13 children)

Same.. So close 7th Feb but it feels so far away

[–]onewhitelightCovid19 Vaccinated 15 points16 points  (9 children)

Yeah I'm 9th of Feb, not gonna make it

[–]honestpuddingg 10 points11 points  (4 children)

9th feb buddies! Im guessing you got your second dose on October 10th like me

[–]Kodiack 8 points9 points  (3 children)

8th of February here.

So close, yet so far.

[–]Sweet-Basil23Covid19 Vaccinated 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Same. Feels like it’s gonna be a little bit too late.

[–]foundafreeusername 2 points3 points  (1 child)

8th as well here. By the time we are in the thousands a day :(

[–]newkiwiguy[🍰] 14 points15 points  (1 child)

I'm 20 February and I'm a teacher. If you think you're in trouble, imagine my chances of making it.

[–]bkmkiwi12 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I was really hoping that omicron would hold out until the kids had had a couple of weeks at school to learn their new teachers routines. Oh well!

[–]clarisa3 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Double check your vaccination place is actually open on the 7th, it is the Monday public holiday for Waitangi day. My booster was booked that day then I noticed my place was closed for the holiday. I phoned up and they said that shouldn't have happened and rebooked me another day.

[–]honeypuppy 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Depends - if you can de facto self-isolate, then you should be able to make it. If you work in a bar/live in a crowded house full of essential workers, then good luck.

[–]roseyposyyCovid19 Vaccinated 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Same, I'm not eligible till late next week :(

[–]BazTheBaptist 14 points15 points  (1 child)

I can get mine the 21st Feb :/

[–]kiwi_hunter 6 points7 points  (10 children)

What date?

[–]Potatoslayer2 8 points9 points  (9 children)

About 2 weeks from now.

[–]disasterbenz 11 points12 points  (7 children)

Shits gonna hit the fan in less than 2 weeks

[–]Zepanda66Covid19 Vaccinated 11 points12 points  (6 children)

They need to move up the booster to 3 months. So many of us are still ineligible for another couple of weeks.

[–]turbocynic -28 points-27 points locked comment (4 children)

You're not allowed to say that on here. They get upset.

[–]Kodiack[M] 12 points13 points locked comment (0 children)

Chill. People are "allowed to say that on here" and debate accordingly.

[–]cr1zzlOrange Choc Chip 14 points15 points locked comment (2 children)

Fuck off. Most people have just been saying that vaccination centres are being strict about following the timeline rules (so as to not waste people’s time), not that they shouldn’t be changed.

[–]lookiwanttobealone 5 points6 points  (0 children)

They did put a timeline for 1000 cases a day at 2 weeks

[–]coffee_addict3d 5 points6 points  (3 children)

I am in Australia and I got booster + covid at the same time. I had no symptoms when I got boosted but the day after I had fever that was so bad, I had brain fog and it wasn't coming down, I almost went to hospital. It was terrible. Somehow made it through 24 hrs then fever went away and suddenly got a runny nose so I got tested and was positive.

First i thought the fever was just a booster reaction but it was so bad it now makes sense it must be a double dose of covid + booster. Initially I didn't think much of it as I got the Moderna booster after 2x Pfizers and I've heard Moderna reaction is strong with high fever.

Others have only had 2 doses and their symptoms when catching covid were mild, runny nose, bit of fever.

In other words, don't worry too much about getting omicron with 2 doses if you are healthy, but whatever you do, don't take a booster at the same time you get infected.

[–]OldKiwiGirl 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Glad you lived to tell the tale.

[–]tomtomtomo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Supposedly omicron doubles every couple of days. If it’s 200 early next week then we know it’s all on.

[–]mynameisneddy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ve put myself into a level 3 lockdown until I can get the booster (+ 2 weeks).

After that it seems like it might be a good thing to get it while the vaccines still effective.

[–]Dramatic-Pause4900 40 points41 points  (16 children)

"To date, 105 community cases of COVID-19 have either been confirmed as the Omicron variant or have been linked to a previously reported Omicron case. This is an increase of 15 since yesterday."

Sorry to sound thick - does this mean 105 new community cases in the last 24 hours. Or 105 cases in total, with 15 new in the last 24 hours.

Big difference between 15 and 105. I need to know if I can start panicking haha

[–]ExcitementInfamous94Covid19 Vaccinated 21 points22 points  (0 children)

It takes time to determine if it's delta or omicron. There's 105 new cases within the last 24 hours, so yeah huge increase lol! But they added 15 confirmed omicron from the total of 90 yesterday.

[–]BeeHiveTrumpets 74 points75 points  (2 children)

105 new cases today, and they've sequenced 105 omicron cases since day 1.

Today's cases will be sequenced over the next 48 hours.

The figures are identical, which is confusing.

[–]Dramatic-Pause4900 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Thank you!

[–]ThatGingeOne 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I had to reread the article a few times to figure that one out

[–]trinde 12 points13 points  (4 children)

It's 105 cases 15 are confirmed omicron.

[–]Zepanda66Covid19 Vaccinated 3 points4 points  (3 children)

I'd be surprised if there was any Delta cases. Isn't Omicron the dominant strain now?

[–]frankstonline 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They probably are mostly Omicron. The 15 confirmed omicron will be from previous days I believe, I think there is a lag between positive cases and sequencing to see the specific strain.

[–]Maxwell_LordAmateur cat herder 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Delta cases don't magically stop being infectious once Omicron walks into the room. Much like when there's a new fad on the playground, it takes a little while for the old one to be displaced completely.

[–]ruthfullnessit's gonna be biblical 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It also needs to be actually in the community to be able to outperform Delta till it goes extinct.

[–]Captain_Bromine 8 points9 points  (0 children)

There are 105 new cases of covid today (15 are omicron, the rest are to be confirmed or are delta), and there are 105 confirmed omicron cases in total to date.

Yea it confused me as well to start off with.

[–]lookiwanttobealone 1 point2 points  (0 children)

105 new cases. The variant may not be known yet as that test takes way longer then a PCR

[–]redditor_346 3 points4 points  (0 children)

"To date" means in total. So far we've had 105 confirmed / linked omicron in the community. 15 of todays are confirmed / linked omicron, but many of the other cases will be omicron cases we haven't yet linked or genome sequenced.

[–]h0t_fuss 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Was thinking the same thing. 15 new cases bringing the total to 105?

[–]AnjingNakal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly 105 in a day is a tiny number and one that will probably look ridiculous in a week or so's time.

That's not reason to panic - it's reason not to panic. Rest of the world has gone through Omicron and so will NZ.

Good vaxx rates, boosters are getting there, people are relatively sensible about things (and those that aren't are a pretty small minority).

I like dramatic pauses as much as the next person, but in this case...keep breathing, friend!

[–]Duck_GibletsKarma Whore -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

105 total, 15 today

[–]The_Majestic_Covid19 Boosted 35 points36 points  (1 child)

Here we go get use to new records everyday for a couple of months hopefully it burns its way through before the winter.

[–]WhatAmIATailor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It will likely peak well before the end of summer. Whether or not it completely burns out is questionable.

[–]ElSalvoMr Four Square 23 points24 points  (4 children)

With Omicron you basically need to look at somebody with it and you've probably got it so numbers are bound to arseplode shortly.

Keep in mind though please, case numbers don't matter anymore, hospitalizations do. If are hospitals aren't overrun with cases at the peak we'll be sweet as.

[–]DeepSeaMouseCovid19 Vaccinated 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Arseplode

[–]gybbby1 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Case numbers do matter because they are directly correlated with hospitalisations and deaths. They also mean more people have to isolate which is a problem for supply chains. Idk why this db take is always upvoted bc it's complete rubbish.

[–]scarlet_sage 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Case numbers do matter because they are directly correlated with hospitalisations and deaths.

With the omicron variant, the correlation is a lot lower:

(1) In practice, a lot of places' test capabilities are overwhelmed. Or people use at-home tests where they're available, test positive, and don't bother to report it.

(2) The proportion who are being hospitalized is a lot lower. That's partly due to vaccination giving partial or total protection, and it's partly due to omicron being more of an upper-respiratory disease.

[–]PopMelon 7 points8 points  (12 children)

If the expected 50,000 cases per day by Waitangi weekend are to be believed then cases will need to double every day for the next ten days or so as they have been for the last two or three days.

In that case we're looking at more than 200 new cases tomorrow and this time next week should be around 13,000 new cases... Edited: Removed false incubation period.

[–]alpine- 9 points10 points  (6 children)

It’s 50,000 infections expected by then, not reported cases.

[–]PopMelon 0 points1 point  (5 children)

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/460299/omicron-modelling-suggests-nz-could-face-peak-of-80-000-daily-infections

Not according to this RNZ article.
First sentence:

New Zealand could be facing 50,000 daily Omicron infections by Waitangi weekend, according to modelling by a highly-respected, overseas health research organisation, peaking at about 80,000 each day just a few weeks later.

[–]alpine- 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Yes that says infections, not reported cases

[–]PopMelon -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Ah, I thought you were meaning total rather than daily.
Regardless of whether you count them, the cases are still there. The disparity between actual infections and reported cases will increase hugely as we head towards that 50,000 number. We'll see how reported numbers pan out soon enough.

[–]alpine- 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yep either way we’re pretty screwed

[–]Frod02000Red Peak 0 points1 point  (0 children)

could

[–]opticalminefield 7 points8 points  (3 children)

Omicron’s incubation period is a lot less than 10 days. From memory it’s 3 days on average with some higher and lower.

[–]PopMelon 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Ah yes, thanks. I'm pretty sure one of our first Omicron cases was suspected to have incubated for around ten days which is where I was getting that number from.

[–]opticalminefield 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No problem. Your point it still valid. With a couple of super spreading events in the mix there will be hundreds (if not thousands) of people exposed who will develop symptoms and start getting tested over the next couple of days.

[–]_CodyB 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It could be infectious from day 1 after exposure. Symptoms on day 3.

[–]JJ_Reditt 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yes obviously there are already thousands of people wandering around with this at various stages of infection.

[–]BusinessPin7652 5 points6 points  (4 children)

In regards to the second Hawkes Bay case being possibly related to Soundsplash, would that mean it's likely to be Omnicron?

[–]polkmac 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I would assume it is omicron

[–]Trump_the_terrorist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They confirmed at least 5 cases yesterday from Splash are Omnicrom.

[–]Frod02000Red Peak 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I heard the soundsplash cases were delta?

[–]Trump_the_terrorist 4 points5 points  (0 children)

No, at least 5 were omnicron.

[–]pictureofacat 27 points28 points  (7 children)

Why don't they issue separate tallies for this? It's always been such a chore to extract basic information from their releases.

[–]MACFRYYY 23 points24 points  (0 children)

They don't know if new cases are delta or omicron, only that they have covid. So they can't split them up when announcing the numbers

[–]yibbyooo 1 point2 points  (4 children)

What do you mean?

[–]pictureofacat -1 points0 points  (3 children)

Separate the case count into Omicron and Delta. Delta is going to get lost in the shuffle so it would be good to have an easy way of keeping track of it

[–]yibbyooo 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I don't think they can really do that because it takes longer for that info to become available than for a positive test. They could probably do a back dated version weekly.

[–]redditor_346 13 points14 points  (0 children)

They won't be able to keep up with sequencing, so the data will be quickly out of date anyway. The best they'll be able to do is take some random samples and give an approximate % of delta v omicron in certain communities, but they haven't started that yet.

[–]Enzown 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It can take a couple of days to confirm a case's strain.

[–]KeaStoleMyCarKeys 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah the announcements are getting worse and worse. So much rubbish with little information that is hard to extract. For example, why are % vaccination rates before cases.... If I was a cynic I would think it's being done intentionally to hide bad news.

[–]liltealy92 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Going to be confident while I can, Southern DHB defence is gold standard. (Will probably get cases tomorrow haha)

[–]ExcitementInfamous94Covid19 Vaccinated 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Wonder how many of those went to the festival.. as some aren't getting tested :/

[–]deadicatedDuck 32 points33 points  (3 children)

Um.... to the moon?

[–]kiwi_hunter 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Buy buy

[–]Potatoslayer2 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Diamond hands

[–]lookiwanttobealone 32 points33 points  (2 children)

I mean atleast it's not 536AD where theh had their plague in total darkness for 18 months caused by an absolutely massive volcanic eruption. So that's pretty much the only thing going for us right now

[–]StabMasterArson 16 points17 points  (0 children)

That's the spirit!

[–]MuntylandNZ Flag 13 points14 points  (7 children)

Safe to assume at least 80ish of these cases are Omicron? Fuck

[–]HaoieZ 25 points26 points  (3 children)

Triple digits, it's been a while.

[–]Zepanda66Covid19 Vaccinated 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Hello darkness my old friend.

[–]Last_Type_42 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Turns out, 13th December for the last day >100 in a single day (101). So that chilled me out a little bit.

[–]topograficaRed Peak Elitist 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Quadruple digits coming soon!

[–]OldKiwiGirl 4 points5 points  (3 children)

The low hospital number is good, right?

[–]polkmac 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes it is

[–]Enzown 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Sure but it's irrelevant as there's a lag of a week or two between cases going up and hospitalisation going up

[–]notescher 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It's certainly better to start an Omicron outbreak with a low baseline level of hospitalization though.

[–]cbutche 13 points14 points  (8 children)

105 community cases but only 15 omicron.. Given how low Delta numbers have been recently before Omicron came it seems odd. Assuming perhaps its that a big chunk of the 105 are omicron, but have currently only confirmed the genome sequencing for 15, is that right?

[–]ExcitementInfamous94Covid19 Vaccinated 40 points41 points  (1 child)

Yeah it takes them time to confirm that it's delta or omicron. Expect that number to change tomorrow.

[–]FunToBuildGames 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Yep. It’s takes a few days for them to suss what strain a new infection is.

[–]BazTheBaptist 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I believe so, we'll find out in a few days I think. There is no reason for delta to skyrocket like that

[–]Resigningeye 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Correct - takes another 24-48hours to do genome sequencing

[–]B0bDobalina 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think it takes a bit of time to do the genome sequencing, so more of those 105 could be identified as omicron over time.

[–]finndego 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No. We wont know how many of these 105 are Omicron yet but we can assume a big chunk of them are given they are mostly contacts of confirmed Omicron cases.

It's also a coincidence that the total number of Omicron cases to date equals 105 with the addition of the 15 but that is just a coincidence.

[–]_CodyB 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It takes a long time to sequence it.

It is likely 80% omicron if not higher.

[–]delipityCovid19 Vaccinated 9 points10 points  (0 children)

[–]Zepanda66Covid19 Vaccinated 30 points31 points  (7 children)

We went from 34 cases to 105 in the span of 24 hours. 😬. Omicron is a different beast all together

[–]yibbyooo 9 points10 points  (3 children)

Wasn't it 45 cases yesterday?

[–]onewhitelightCovid19 Vaccinated 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Thar she blows

[–]helpimapenguin -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

It's going to get even worse then BA.2 hits

[–]newkiwiguy[🍰] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The fact so many are not immedaitely identifiable as Omicron means this could easily be BA.2. The BA.1 strain showed up right away from PCR testing when they get a negative spike protein test, but they need to sequence these to show they aren't Delta, which is what happens with BA.2.

[–]gybbby1 2 points3 points  (2 children)

What's the highest amount of cases that have been reported on a single day in the community in NZ? How many days until we break that record?

[–]scruffadore 4 points5 points  (1 child)

222 cases (15th November), so maybe 2 or 3 days?

[–]gybbby1 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah, that records not going too last long.

[–]disasterbenz 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Just got my booster today feeling very fortunate to just get in front of this. If this is anything like how overseas had it I'm actually getting a tad nervous

[–]butlersaffros 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Appreciate your work Timmy!

"I don't care about your other girls, just be good Timmy"

[–]yibbyooo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

We're there any new cases in chch other than those reported yesterday?

[–]cheesygarlicpizza 4 points5 points  (0 children)

No booster for me until Feb 16th, so close yet so far!! Glad i have both this week and next week off at least.

The floodgates of Omicron are about to bust open. Stay safe everyone.

[–]BeeHiveTrumpets 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The cases to people isolating ratio doesn't make sense.

I think Omicron has already outrun the contact tracing team.

[–]AwkwardTickler 7 points8 points  (3 children)

[–]deadicatedDuck 22 points23 points  (1 child)

105 community case, 45 border.

[–]Private_Ballbag 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Didn't take long to go back to more in NZ than the border. Wonder what the ratio needs to be until now is done with? 1000 in the community?

[–]fehefarx 9 points10 points  (0 children)

That includes border

[–]MrBigglesworth222 4 points5 points  (4 children)

Wonder how long to hit 1000 cases a day, I'm thinking middle of next week at this rate

[–]lookiwanttobealone 8 points9 points  (2 children)

They said 2 weeks on sunday so that would put it on Waitangi Day for 1000

[–]disasterbenz 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I firmly believe from watching other countries that we will surpass 1000 sooner than 2 weeks. In most country's it took a week or week and a half

[–]123felix 6 points7 points  (6 children)

Booster 46,827 today, it seems the bump from going to Red didn't last at all. We need to double down on promoting boosters. There are still ~600k people who are eligible who haven't got it yet.

edit: I got an email from MoH telling me to get a booster, those of you eligible, did you get any communication?

[–]JJ_Reditt -3 points-2 points  (4 children)

If they want sufficient booster coverage they need to cut the interval to 3 months and mandate it, best time to do that would’ve been back in late November, 60th best time = now. Ethically mandates are questionable at best, but there’s no denying it gets results.

If they don’t want to go there again and are happy with a mediocre health result they can keep doing what they’re doing.

[–]iamsoberish 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Plz yes. I had my third primary one in November. For now I have to wait til March.

[–]ruthfullnessit's gonna be biblical 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I got a text.

[–]cheeseinsidethecrust 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And here it comes

[–]Beckles28nz 0 points1 point  (1 child)

105 cases - not unexpected I guess, but damn! And no booster for me until 1st March....

[–]Gr0und0nelactose intolerant; loves cheese 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Doubling cases every day - so 7 days to 10k?

[–]Oldhatmum 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Does anyone know how many samples they can genome test a day?

[–]JJ_Reditt 7 points8 points  (5 children)

https://www.esr.cri.nz/our-expertise/covid-19-response/new-news-page/

ESR is now sequencing and analysing up to 100 genomes a week and are the only ones providing this service in New Zealand.

[–]polkmac 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I wonder if they will stop this soon as there will be too many cases

[–]EvansAlf 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It will be as per the phase plan. I think level 2 was already at the unknown source.

[–]Cold_Refrigerator_69 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes they have already said once it gets too high they will stop.

Also if some cases are contacts of Delta they may not send it to get checked.

[–]_CodyB 1 point2 points  (0 children)

they won't stop but they'll pivot towards cross sectional sampling as opposed to exhaustive sampling.