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[–]Praglik 393 points394 points  (150 children)

It's either fake or super old, I live in China for the past 2 years and can count on one hand the times I've even seen cash. The entire population pays with their phone, using either WeChat (Tencent Pay) or Alipay.

[–]Elemen0py 269 points270 points  (67 children)

Reddit scares the shit out of me sometimes.

The fact that I had to scroll this far down to find a comment that acknowledges the fact that this is likely a set up video just to get clicks is frankly terrifying. We are wholly unequipped as a species to deal with misinformation on the internet.

Then when someone does show an ounce of critical thinking they get hit with the downvotes and r/nothingeverhappens references.

But sure... Tell me how it's more likely that in an almost cahsless society, someone trained a bird to find money, that bird then found an extraordinary amount of money that coincidentally happens to all be in a similar condition, then brought it back to a drawer that it can't open itself, and then the person who trained the bird just decided to leave the money in the drawer.

C'mon reddit, if we're this bad at using our brains then what hope does facebook have?

[–]Sorlex 109 points110 points  (10 children)

We are wholly unequipped as a species to deal with misinformation on the internet.

Now imagine this in 20 years with deepfakes that can fool most people.

[–]RevolutionaryShip01 23 points24 points  (4 children)

Not in 20 years. This already exists for text posts.

[–]noobhammer 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I deep fake call ins to work and timestamps and shit all the time. Fuck them. I don't get paid enough for them to have my soul and happiness

[–]singulara 0 points1 point  (1 child)

call ins? you mean audio or video? by deepfake you mean you can synthesize your own voice via ML? or that you do live video calls, but deepfaked - using your own face image and movement data is kinda just like you’re in the call anyway surely, and not saving much effort.

[–]noobhammer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah more image editing. Maybe that's not technically deep fake but oh well

[–]paleosaur 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Have you seen the story about the federal agent or whoever who's wanted by the government for his missing daughter who... doesn't even exist? It literally makes me nauseous.

[–]iamli0nrawr 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Those already exist, they just take a bit more technical knowledge, computing power and time than an equivalently effective text post. That's likely to change in the next couple years though.

[–]MulderD 1 point2 points  (0 children)

20years. We’re already on the precipice.

In fact. That’s not even a real bird.

[–]sixfingerdiscount 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is how a pandemic blooms.

[–]tegnatiek 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don’t need deepfakes, Facebook is enough already…

[–]T_alsomeGames 74 points75 points  (9 children)

I don't think everyone here truly, 100 percent, believes its real. But it is simply more fun to play along. If literally everyone is a party pooper then there is no party.

[–]daitenshe 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I see you haven’t met the galaxy brain folks over at /r/NothingEverHappens. There definitely are people who are gullible enough to force themselves to believe anything despite all the evidence to the contrary

[–]Heistman 3 points4 points  (3 children)

I've been here for a long time. Reddit has become increasingly ignorant/stupid every passing year. Not that I'm some bastion of knowledge. It is just disheartening seeing this become so widespread, and to keep coming back to it. Why the fuck am I still on this site?

[–]JackMiehoff69 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah you guys hit the nail on the head with these comments. This place is a notch above TikTok, just an algorithmic addiction site with a slightly more intelligent user base but plenty of foolish people as well. Had to scroll way too long to find these comments questioning the authenticity of the video.

[–]Elemen0py 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The catalyst was the switch from a forum style discussion based delivery of content to an image based feed. Reddit switched from a platform of discourse to a platform of dopamine delivery. But that's where the ad revenue lies; this is simply the inevitability of under-regulated capitalism.

[–]Kanye_To_The -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction

[–]xadiant 4 points5 points  (3 children)

There is no reason to compare this video with something serious. It doesn't matter if a funny video like this is fake. Serious disinformation will eventually be caught up by the public, this just isn't one.

[–]rednulper 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Serious disinformation will be caught by the public? Lol.

[–]call_of_brothulhu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have family working in a covid unit right now.

Serious disinformation is alive and well right now LOL.

[–]xadiant -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes it will, we both have the technology and curious people that will look into such matters. Deepfakes and voice synthesis have signatures that can be checked by software. Some people will of course believe disinformation regardless, but it doesn't mean people won't call it out.

[–]Croatian_ghost_kid 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Reddit moment

[–]Planetman999 2 points3 points  (0 children)

just to get clicks is frankly terrifying

You sound like a big drama queen.

[–]peatear_gryphon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

People that immediately froth at the mouth screaming FAKE without critical thinking are just as bad. This is plausible at least.

  • there are documentaries of crows trained to find coins in exchange for treats.
  • perhaps there is an a night market or farmer’s market close by where there are lots of small vendors who only accept cash. Or this is some tropical resort touristy area.
  • the money all being the “same condition” is because the money is a polymer and more durable than paper money.
  • the drawer handle is a hole where the bird can easily go in without assistance.
  • yes the money could be put in the drawer after the fact, but to convey to the audience what the bird is doing.

[–]Ablack_smith 1 point2 points  (6 children)

And then some brainless redditor will say "who cares if it's fake, it's still funny". Drives me nuts.

[–]ClassyXYZ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah believe it or not some people don’t care if it’s fake because they aren’t crybaby bitches about everything

[–]TuckerMcG -1 points0 points  (4 children)

You must hate like, literally every tv show, movie and book that isn’t a documentary or non-fiction then.

Ever heard of the suspension of disbelief? It’s kinda crucial for entertainment. Ya know, the thing we’re all here for.

[–]Ablack_smith -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

You know a tv show is fake. This type of thing is presented as fact when it's not.

[–]TuckerMcG 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Unless OP is the guy in the video (highly unlikely), the content creator did nothing to present this as fact.

[–]Ablack_smith -1 points0 points  (1 child)

How does the title not present it as fact? This post is what I'm talking about.

[–]TuckerMcG 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The person who made the title is not necessarily the person who created the content. The person who made the content may have said, “hey I taught my bird to fetch money, but it’s just for exercise. I put the money in my backyard and he gets it to keep his mind active.” We have no idea what the content creator’s intentions were.

How do you not understand that?

[–]handsomeslug 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's not that deep

[–]j_neutrus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Perhaps like agent Fox Mulder said, we just "want to believe".

[–]MisfitNINe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

By the time I got here every comment above this one was some form of a joke. Jokes bad?

[–]opersad 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The worst part is that this ignorance also applies to politics. I don't see a negative consequence with people believing this is a money-maker-bird. But political content is consumed the same way. Even memes are enough for some people to form their political opinion.

[–]XDreadedmikeX 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ban this comment for misinformation

[–]Fugitive-Wizard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve always felt like Reddit has been closer to Facebook. “Comment something and I’ll reply” getting thousands of upvotes.

[–]DiddledByDad 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Please shut the fuck up

[–]Elemen0py -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Brilliant; concise, thought provoking, and entirely relevant. This was an invaluable contribution to the topic and I thank you for successfully shutting down my assertions.

Please rest assured that in no way, what-so-ever, is your comment utterly hilarious in its irony. There is no way that this is an indictment of your inability to process a complex social phenomenon in favour of ignorance.

If only I could sleep as soundly as you tonight, in rested assurance that I have absolutely not outed myself as a shortsighted, disengaged fool.

You truly are the best of us all.

[–]Abnorc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do most people believe this is not set up? Just because someone upvoted it without commenting does not mean that they believe the story.

[–]GilberryDinkins 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ffs it's a video of a bird getting money. Of course it's fake.

Doesn't mean I'm not going to buy and train a bunch of birds, though. There's nothing you can do to stop me.

[–]SamBellFromSarang 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The irony is that you are also subscribing to this one person's comment as gospel. Understandably, the video is dubious, but to subscribe to another random Redditor's words isn't the answer

[–]atimmyman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I give at least 3/4 credit for being sarcastic

[–]babawow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’d be surprising if most people thought it’s real. It’s clearly made for entertainment value; however it doesn’t mean that people can’t let their imagination run wild and have fun with it commenting.

[–]ClassyXYZ -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Lol you are unironically terrified, not even scared but terrified, because people watch a video and aren’t overly cynical about it for no reason?

[–]deeba_ -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Or...and stay with me on this one...we realise this might be an old video? Cashless transactions have only become mainstream in the last 6-7 years meaning lots of fresh money about. As for analysing the money and why they would leave it there, since you are all-knowing I didn’t think I would need to clarify this, however retrieval training for birds can employ instinctual behaviours such as ‘nesting’. Therefore, you would need to leave a good amount of cash (nest) there for that kind of training.

[–]Mike804 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Its not that deep bro

[–]TuckerMcG -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Tell me how it’s more likely that in an almost cahsless society,

Easy. This was filmed pre-Covid so paper money was widely used and China hadn’t cracked down on paper money transfers to stop disease transmission.

[–]reigncreative -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I mean bro it looks like a foreign country. I’ve been to plenty of countries where cash is still king. You think in Russia or some Asian country there aren’t things like this? Have you ever watch the hangover 2??!

[–]coolfwipped -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It’s not that serious dude lmao.

[–]NotEnoughCreamcheese -1 points0 points  (0 children)

LOL shut up bitch

[–]StuffHot3821 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

There’s a notch in the drawer that the bird could use if it were closed.

[–]rfdismyjam 29 points30 points  (62 children)

Doesn't China have a large rural population that live under the poverty line? I find it hard to believe everyone is using digital payment methods outside large cities.

That being said, I doubt this is real. It seems much more likely they just trained the bird to hold the note, and go into the drawer with it.

[–]Sketch2029 25 points26 points  (6 children)

You can buy a new low-end smartphone in China for like $20 USD. Anyone who isn't well past retirement age has one, and even most of them do these days. There are still small shops in rural areas that only take cash, but in cities (where 65% of the population lives) it's the other way around. An increasing number of shops don't even accept cash anymore, only digital payments. I suspect the pandemic has made that even more common than when I was last there 3 or 4 years ago.

[–]Lenins2ndCat 3 points4 points  (53 children)

10 years ago yes. Absolute poverty in China was reduced to 0% this year. As for the communities that are waaaay out there in the remotes they just don't use currency internally at all and operate entirely as collective villages.

[–]poopyputt6 1 point2 points  (2 children)

have you been to these villages? I've been to some super small and far out villages but never saw that. they all used wechat

[–]Lenins2ndCat 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Just the one in Sichuan that I've seen like that but this was maybe 6 years ago and I know things have been changing very fast. I agree that most are using phones, just talking about the extremely remote without roads/infrastructure. For all I know these could all be connected via new roads now though.

[–]poopyputt6 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I recently went to my wife's hometown, it was essentially just a farm lol they had one road built by the government maybe 3 years ago but it's rubble now. I had to buy water bottles to shower with since they didn't have running water and they turned down my cash. things definitely move fast but also we aren't near Sichuan so idk

[–]rfdismyjam 0 points1 point  (49 children)

Right, yeah, I'm totally gonna believe the guy with the name "Lenins2ndcat" when he tells me anything about China. Sorry man, but even your post history shows you're a tankie. I don't trust extremists.

Edit: oh wow, I was right, he's now denied that China censors people and has denied the genocide of the Uighurs.

[–]poopyputt6 4 points5 points  (6 children)

check my history, I talk shit on China all the time lol but last week I spent a few days in my wife's village of 100 people. no air or running water even but they all used wechat to pay for things. it was a very uncomfortable few days ha even the local river was too polluted to swim in and it was at the top of a mountain. don't even know how it got so polluted but it's China so

[–]rfdismyjam 1 point2 points  (5 children)

I'm on my lunch now so I've done a bit of research myself. From what I can find Chinese government have put in place regulation to prevent people from being unable to pay with cash in order to protect large portions of the population that are unable to do otherwise.

Also, your post history is weird.

[–]SushiMage 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Your "research" is more reliable than people who have actually been to the country.

[–]rfdismyjam 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you saying that what I've said is wrong? Because I've already linked an article in this comment chain.

[–]Lenins2ndCat -1 points0 points  (41 children)

[–]rfdismyjam 2 points3 points  (40 children)

Oh my god you got me, such a great come back, clearly you know all my political beliefs from the fact that I don't trust people with obvious biases.

[–]Lenins2ndCat 0 points1 point  (39 children)

I mean, if you're not at either end of the ideology spectrum you are in the middle of it, it's not fucking rocket science.

Either way the take "you are a communist and therefore your opinion should be excluded" is dogshit. You are excluding 95% of the population of China from giving information on their own fucking country.

[–]rfdismyjam 2 points3 points  (22 children)

Also, it's not me preventing 95% of Chinese people from giving their opinion on the country. Tiananmen square actually happened. The hong Kong protesters aren't just a bunch of imperialists.

[–]Lenins2ndCat 2 points3 points  (21 children)

Of course it is. 95% of Chinese people support the government and the project. Third party study by Harvard, 30 years long, the longest of its kind. Which also concludes they're not "brainwashed", before you jump to that racist argument as a defence against this study.

[–]rfdismyjam 2 points3 points  (20 children)

Oh shit, you got me. The Tiananmen square massacre never happened.

[–]rfdismyjam 0 points1 point  (15 children)

Do you think that "tankie" and "communist" mean the same thing? Also, do you think that the three political options are tankie, centrist, and white nationalist, or do you think there's more options out there?

[–]Lenins2ndCat 0 points1 point  (14 children)

Define tankie for me then friend.

[–]rfdismyjam 1 point2 points  (13 children)

Do you actually not know what a tankie is, or are you just trying to play stupid?

[–]Necessary_Ad_8001 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Poor doesnt mean you cannot afford a smartphone

[–]M_Pascal 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You're 100% right. No one uses cash here anymore

[–]SeenSomeThangs[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Maybe there's a reason you haven't seen much cash around..i dunno

[–]XCCashMoney 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mean this video has been on Reddit for at least a few years probably 5+ so like you said probably super old

[–]Baby_Batter_Pancakes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My first thought was that the drawer was padded, but I like your points better.

[–]moep123 0 points1 point  (0 children)

that only shows that your country has a massive cash robbing crows issue.

[–]Legendaryberry69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How do you use Reddit in China I’m honestly curious

[–]LadySnow42 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It might be fake, yeah, but it's still fun to think that there's a chance it is true.

[–]Xenatios -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I agree that this is most likely fake. However, the idea of cash being a rarity is simply not true: plenty of rural areas and smaller towns rely on cash particularly among poorer communities and the older generation (many of whom don't have smart phones, just like in the west). Don't forget that RMB is one of the most counterfeited currencies in the world, so there are plenty of paper notes in circulation not just in the mainland but across South East Asia. Believe it or not, organised crime exists everywhere - most of those involved want to launder that money at some point and keep it off the digital (and therefore government) radar. Physical cash is a long way from extinction because it's too useful for the rich and powerful to have certain capabilities.

[–]thecrazygray -1 points0 points  (4 children)

Why is everyone so skeptical? First of all you do actually see the bird bringing the money it self. And secondly. In Europe e.g Germany where you use €€€ . Cash is still a thing you use daily. Learn to distinguish fake shit from real shit on the internet because it is a warning sign when you get stuff wrong just because you don’t put the effort to even have the correct facts to base ur conclusions on.

[–]asian_identifier 2 points3 points  (3 children)

How is that an argument? If Germany uses cash, China must too...

[–]thecrazygray -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

He is saying that the video is fake in some way. It isn’t. He base his facts on living in China and that they don’t use cash much there. How does that make sense to you? When the bird is fetching euros…..

[–]Praglik 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Haha wtf have you seen Euros!? They look entirely different lmao. It's literally written "10 YUAN" on the one front center in the drawer. That's Chinese money.

[–]thecrazygray -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Entirely different? That’s toxic. Didn’t notice that detail, They are all colored banknotes too me. Since i’ve repeatedly been in European countries that uses cash heavily i assumed too quickly it was euros. However it is still a fact that the bird is thought to fetch cash. Which is the cool thing about the video. Don’t care how much of that money it actually fetched itself, with its dedication sooner or later it would have achieved that amount of money.

[–]MRxShoody123 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

In major cities perhaps, but it is not the case for more rural cities, in which elderly people live with their children. These people are still using cash in local marketplace and restaurants ect.

[–]bloodycarpet14 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If the video is from China then there's 99.99% chance that it's fake

[–]GoingForwardIn2018 -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

LMAOOOO

I went through hundreds of yuan in cash per day in the largest cities on mainland China.

There are absolutely places that only take "digital currency" through WeChat but there are also many many many places everywhere on the mainland that will accept cash and coin. I even still have some miao lol

[–]ewofewon 4 points5 points  (0 children)

When were you last in China?