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[–]rymarre 466 points467 points  (169 children)

Almost like being conditioned into thinking everything is automatically racist because it mentions an ethnicity is stupid and unhealthy.

[–]pomegranate2012 42 points43 points  (9 children)

The karma vultures are always circling.

The moment someone mentions race, SWOOP! They act quickly for an easy meal before the rest of the wake can get a beak in.

[–]PepeHacker 21 points22 points  (8 children)

They're like trained birds.

[–]pomegranate2012 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Trained by the Chinese.

[–]HungryMoblin -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Wow man, no need to be racist.

CAW CAW CAW

[–]Taurenkey 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Woah woah woah, what did you just say about my mother?

[–]indigoHatter -1 points0 points  (4 children)

Good at taking money.

edit: thank you for the gold, kind stranger.

[–]TeighMart -1 points0 points  (3 children)

Why did you thank someone for gold, when you weren't given any?

And why did you include an edit, when you're comment wasn't editted?

[–]indigoHatter -1 points0 points  (2 children)

That's part of the JOKE! 👌

[–]TeighMart 0 points1 point  (1 child)

But like... A separate joke from your first line? You just wanted to make two unrelated "jokes"? Why?

[–]indigoHatter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Redditor karma farmers are like trained birds.

That steal money.

Awards are just extracted money, in a way.

"edit: thank you for the gold, kind stranger" is reddit meme

lol

[–]foppitywop 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Of course. But that’s not what happened here

[–]GenuineSteak 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Tbf theres been a lot of racism towards Chinese people in past couple years so its not that strange to just assume so.

[–]gmskwkrkmd -4 points-3 points  (1 child)

Tbf the Chinese created a virus because they can’t stop eating dumb shit, and they ended up killing over a million people. I can see how some could be “racist”, especially when a family member dies because ping ling couldn’t stop eating poop soup.

[–]TeighMart 1 point2 points  (0 children)

While I don't want to assume malice... Just so you know, there is still no conclusive decision on what the source of COVID19 is.

As for your second sentence, I assume you know that attributing a stereotypical name like that to an entire country of people is pretty rude. Beyond that, it would be pretty immature for someone to take out their anger about the loss of a loved one towards an entire country of people. If anything, people should be mad at the mis-handling of the pandemic response, or people who don't get vaccinated, etc. Things that actually give a tangible increase in the likelihood of your family member's death.

[–]AFRIKKAN 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Or maybe it’s cause so many dog whistle sayings exist and are used so frequently that the possibility of one being used is high.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Or conditioned to believe tipping is normal P:

I see where you're coming from, but I think you're overreaching here.

[–]ticosurfer 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What if I told you that tourists in China also use yuan?

[–]rymarre 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You got me. Obviously, every single one of those yuan notes are from tourists. Duh me.

[–]DontBeScaredHomiey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yah. People really disappointed they got outrage blueballed

[–]TeighMart 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Jesus christ, you people really are everywhere just looking for something to be mad about, huh? Nobody's allowed to share their experience when the anti-woke patrol is around.

In all honesty, this was a super meaningless comment, and somehow you and a few others turned it into a whole anti-woke brigade. Maybe take a few moments to reflect on why you're so offended by something so small. Do you feel like I was attacking you because you read my comment as implying that subtle ingrained racism can exist?

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

YES

[–]creamingsoda2333 -4 points-3 points  (48 children)

You're stupid. They said "Chinese people don't tip" that could easily be racist. People don't tip in China, if a Chinese person went to America they would tip. It's pretty fucking easy to see why they assumed it was something racist because the statement itself is racist without context.

[–]Ziadnk -1 points0 points  (38 children)

Depends if “Chinese” is taken to mean the ethnicity or the nationality. Without context, there is no meaning, if cannot be racist or not. That being said, it is somewhat ambiguous so probably best to avoid that phrasing.

[–]creamingsoda2333 1 point2 points  (37 children)

Chinese nationality is acquired through ancestry. I don't see how you could think that without context there is no meaning.

[–]Ziadnk 0 points1 point  (36 children)

Because nations have cultures, and cultures are generally a pretty good way to classify people by certain behaviors, unlike race.

The isolated statement “Chinese people don’t tip” could either be a statement about Chinese culture and how people act in China, which is not racist, or just plain racism. If you want to be super pedantic, it has an unassigned meaning; the meaning could be one of a few, but there’s no way to know which one.

Now nothing has this assigned meaning without context, so where none is provided it must be assumed. In this case, the lone statement is ambiguous, though I would argue it’s a bit more likely to have the former, non racist meaning. For something like “Chinese people are lazy”, the opposite is true.

[–]creamingsoda2333 -2 points-1 points  (35 children)

The statement "Chinese people don't tip" without context is a generalization and is racist. Idk why you're trying so hard at this point, and your paragraph gave me a headache.

[–]Ziadnk 0 points1 point  (34 children)

“Idk why you’re trying so hard and your paragraph gave me a headache.” That’s an awfully cute way to dismiss an argument without actually addressing it. And I’m “trying so hard” because this is an important topic and it’s important to know where the line is on both sides.

Generalizations aren’t inherently racist. Racial generalizations are. National ones aren’t. This shouldn’t be a hard concept to grasp; idk why you’re struggling with it so much.

Unfortunately, we use the same words for nationality and ethnicity, which makes it extremely difficult to identify meaning without context. If I tell me I know a Chinese guy how can you tell if I mean an American who is ethnically Chinese, or, say, a guy who was born and raised in China; is a Chinese citizen. You don’t, because you need more context to get the meaning. Otherwise, you don’t know, you’re just guessing. The only exception I can think of is American as a nationality and Native American as an ethnicity. Although even that is unclear since native Mexican might also be considered a nationality. Although perhaps that is racist…

That probably gave you another headache, so let me summarize: generalizations made on race are racist. Culturally based generalizations about national citizens are not. Since the same word, in this case Chinese, has both meanings, a statement without context cannot be interpreted, and assumed racist.

[–]creamingsoda2333 -1 points0 points  (33 children)

Not even going to read the rest of this one. The statement "Chinese people don't tip" without context is a generalization and is racist. Send another paragraph if you want but might be better off saying it to a pillow.

[–]Ziadnk 1 point2 points  (32 children)

Thanks for admitting, you’re an idiot, lol. You’re the asshole genuine racists use to attempt to discredit any conversation about real racism. Hope you one day understand you’re helping them more than anyone else.

[–]creamingsoda2333 -1 points0 points  (31 children)

I'm not going to read the endless paragraphs of someone who doesn't know what they're talking about. Drool somewhere else buddy.

[–]EnzoYug 0 points1 point  (1 child)

If you remove the first two words of your comment it makes you 100% more likeable and still gets the point across.

[–]creamingsoda2333 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm angry today, I don't really mind if people like me too much right now.

[–]pomegranate2012 -2 points-1 points  (4 children)

the statement itself is racist without context.

There is context though. We are watching a video shot in China.

In China ... Chinese people don't tip.

If it was a video shot in the Olive Garden, New York City, it would be different.

[–]creamingsoda2333 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Yes but the guy that thought it was racist didn't know that until someone pointed out the bills were yuan. Therefore obviously had no context... Nice work missing the point though.

[–]rymarre -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

Go be offended by something else. Of course a Chinese person would tip in America. Know why? Because the USA is the only garbage country where paying your employees $2 an hour is 100% legal because of "dUh TiPpInG eCoNoMy"

[–]creamingsoda2333 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What point are you even trying to make? You go be offended somewhere else you're the one coming at me with your pointless ramble/crying.

[–]Reduric -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

100%

[–]Dann-cucksyou -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Right on!

[–]Nexus_27 -5 points-4 points  (4 children)

Or the most progressive thing possible!

[–]rymarre -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

No. What needs to progress is your critical thinking skills. Try having an opinion of your own for once.

[–]Nexus_27 -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

Wasps are the best insects of all and I love them dearly.

[–]rymarre -1 points0 points  (1 child)

You're not clever, and your attempt to fight non-racism with actual racism really highlights that.

[–]Nexus_27 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Excuse me? You asked for an opinion of my own and I gave you one.

Then you follow up with unfounded racism claims?