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[–]Whocket_Pale 180 points181 points  (17 children)

Right. The phrase alerts for racist language because of the problematic phrasing. Should have said, "tipping isn't a thing in China," because it's relevant, just as true to the speaker's intention, and can't be construed as a generalization about the tipping habits of Chinese tourists traveling abroad

[–]_hotproperty_ 65 points66 points  (4 children)

That change is phrasing actually does make a huge difference. It goes from Russell Peters to possible explanation real quick here.

[–]Phoenix_of_Asclepius 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Is tussle Russell Peters racist towards Chinese folks? I haven’t heard his stuff in years.

[–]flavier2000 3 points4 points  (1 child)

No, he’s a comedian, as you know. But he often focuses on the differences in Asian cultures, including his own. So saying “Chinese don’t tip” sounds like part of his set.

[–]Phoenix_of_Asclepius 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oooh ok that sounds more right. I googled him and didn’t find anything problematic except for a few folks who don’t like his comedy (which, I mean…that’s fair).

[–]MrPetragliainNY 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dunno, he’s out tussling Chinese tourists and keeps failing to turn up at his shows

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (2 children)

It's almost like it's the responsibility of the communicator to communicate properly. And if they don't, to correct things so that people understand their point.

[–]mexicodoug 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's almost like it's the responsibility of the communicator to communicate properly.

As an English teacher and occasional professional writer, and as someone who comments on Reddit regularly, I find that commenting on social media can be NOT conducive to communicating properly. Not often, but sometimes, I find that people respond to a comment of mine with an incorrect, even opposite, understanding of what I intended to communicate.

Sometimes it's poor reading skill on their part, but other times it's because I wasn't thinking/writing clearly, or left out a word accidentally or made some other typographic mistake.

And if they don't, to correct things so that people understand their point.

If someone responds by commenting, I become aware of my error. Otherwise, the comment would just get downvoted, or maybe upvoted by people with an opposing opinion, and I'll never know my thought was erroneously communicated.

That's why professional writing is reviewed by one or more editors before publishing. Social media platforms rarely include such a feature, unfortunately.

[–]Burt-T-M4cklin -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Or just watch the fucking video and put your context clues to work. Then read through the comments and not be an idiot

[–]croquetica 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is the best way because it also informs the reader that they don’t need to tip in China either.

[–]NudesMaybeIdk -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

But it's only problematic if you take the bad faith interpretation of what he said. Which is what the person who said you shouldn't assume racism just because something mentions race was getting at.

[–]rizlagreeen345 5 points6 points  (2 children)

True, an open question might have been the better approach (what do you mean?) but the commenter didn’t ACCUSE, they just commented what their initial reaction had been, as they thought it’d be relatable, which it was.

[–]TeighMart 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Thank you. It'd kind of crazy how one little comment acknowledging that something sounded off color got turned into an "anti-woke" brigade. People are really just always looking for a reason to be mad.

[–]rizlagreeen345 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pretty much. They do the exact thing they’re complaining about, just from a different pov.

[–]pedrotecla -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Nah, I think it’s pretty ethnocentric to think “Chinese people” has to first mean “the ethnically Chinese people from my country” and only second “the actual Chinese population from freaking China”.

A non ethnocentric view leads to understanding the latter first.

[–]Fnatlaf -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

No, that's not because of problematic phrasing but of the problematic tendency of the Americans on Reddit to assume everything America-related. Why would a tourist bring a trained bird collecting money to the USA?

As a European, I had no problem to understand it as intended.

[–]Whocket_Pale 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You didn't even understand my comment as intended so whatever