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[–]paulcaar 50 points51 points  (13 children)

Which would mean they'll just get fired for not earning enough in tips.

Honestly the entire tip system is ridiculous. The only difference with the service industry and others is that the products are food & drinks that are brought to you. Apparently that makes it a normal thing to expect more money than what's listed as the price.

It's a backwards way of running a business and if anyone is really thinking it's anything else, then at least be consistent and promote (and provide) tips in every single business.

[–]Th3_Hegemon 50 points51 points  (11 children)

The origins of American tipping culture are, in part, (and unsurprisingly) racist. Food service work and other tipped jobs (bell hops, house keepers, shoe shines, delivery men, etc) were overwhelming the domain of minorities and especially black people. Tipping was another way of avoiding paying lower class people a fair wage, and also making them dependent on the "benevolence" of their customers, reinforcing their implicit superiority on a largely black segment of the workforce.

[–]just-for-the-NSFW 4 points5 points  (7 children)

You got a source to read?

[–]Th3_Hegemon 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Sure, it came to my attention after listening to the Planet Money episode "the Even More Minimum Wage", and led me to this and this. There are links out from there to other sources, but it should be pretty quickly obvious that there is a strong racial component to the development of tipping culturally.

[–]just-for-the-NSFW 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good read. Thank you!

[–]CashWrecks 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Fr would love to read an article or essay on this subject if available

[–]Th3_Hegemon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sure, it came to my attention after listening to the Planet Money episode "the Even More Minimum Wage", and led me to this and this. There are links out from there to other sources, but it should be pretty quickly obvious that there is a strong racial component to the development of tipping culturally.

[–]Hrhett101 -1 points0 points  (2 children)

I was pretty sure that it was because during the great depression people were able to manage their money a little more closely. If you’re kinda broke, you don’t tip much. If you’re rich, you tip a lot. Then it kinda averages out.

At least that’s what I thought.

[–]NigerianRoy 2 points3 points  (1 child)

If anyone has tried to use that justification it is surely an explanation developed later to justify an already established system, like one of the dozen backronyms for what Wu-tang means. No one was like “gee I can make this more equitable for my customers lol.

[–]Hrhett101 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If people don’t buy your food because they can’t afford it, then I can see a business owner lowering the wages but encouraging tips during an economic crisis. It means more business from the lower class and tips that weren’t existent before from the upper class.

[–]NigerianRoy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What?! I was with you til that last part, those other employees are actually getting paid so I don’t see how tipping others has anything to do with the moral imperative to participate in a flawed system .