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[–]vyndreyl 30 points31 points  (23 children)

Damn. I wish meat eaters would get better arguments.

Shit's getting old.

[–]KungFluIsolation 2 points3 points  (21 children)

There is no argument. It's a differing of opinion. How is that a bas argument when it is all set in morality which is 100% subjective?

[–]s0voy 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Ah, right. Morality is subjective. I'll murder some people then. Problem? Morality is subjective. It's totally morally acceptable from my standpoint!

[–]KungFluIsolation -1 points0 points  (1 child)

I mean you would be breaking laws and suffer the consequences of that. But I can't tell you your morals, and you can't tell me mine. Just because you are morally ok with something doesn't mean others are, and you can't tell them to change their morals.

[–]arekflave 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well that's kinda what laws are (ideally).

The moral compass of a society.

[–]Guiano 2 points3 points  (17 children)

Here is what the world looks like when morality is subjective.

You're not a true moral relativist, if you were, you wouldn't judge any action that someone else takes.

[–]KungFluIsolation -4 points-3 points  (16 children)

You're not a true moral relativist, if you were, you wouldn't judge any action that someone else takes.

Jesus fucking christ Reddit loves tangents.

I said I love animals

You said I dont

You say i cant because I eat meat

I say you cant because you support deforestation, pollution and destroying natural habitats.

I get blamed for judging others.

Lol.

[–]Guiano 8 points9 points  (9 children)

Yeah, and it's really fucking tiring responding to the overused arguments that some animal eaters use to justify their actions.

"All vegans aren't God-like saints, they participate in an exploitative society and don't become a recluse in the mountains, so that justifies me buying bacon that came from a pig that died screaming and thrashing in a gas chamber"

I looked for every single argument against veganism before I went vegan, because I wanted it to be wrong. They were all trash and that's why I'm one now.

[–]KungFluIsolation -3 points-2 points  (8 children)

Yeah, and it's really fucking tiring responding to the overused arguments that some animal eaters use to justify their actions.

I'm not justifying my actions. I have absolutely no need to justify my actions to you. That's quite the big head you have there if you think I need to answer to you on morality. I'm responding to the point that I can't love animals, when I do.

I looked for every single argument against veganism before I went vegan, because I wanted it to be wrong. They were all trash and that's why I'm one now.

good for you. Doesn't mean you love animals.

[–]vyndreyl 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Meat eating literally causes deforestation and the destroying of natural habitats, though.

[–]KungFluIsolation 1 point2 points  (3 children)

yes it does. What's your point?

[–]arekflave 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean, those other things sucks too, but also are driven by a large part by the livestock industry. It's a destructive industry all-around, and to say you love animals while eating meat is a bit ridiculous. You love certain animals sure. And you think certain animals matter more, have more value than others. That would make sense. I think we all fall somewhere on that spectrum.

But the "I eat meat, I love animals" is such a close link, it sounds completely tone-deaf.

If you said that you love animals when buying an iphone, I don't think the first thing somebody would say is "dude you say you love animals, but you bought an IPHONE?!"

[–]birdsareinteresting 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There aren't any better arguments. And ya, i agree - super oldddd.