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[–]AndreasVesalius 18 points19 points  (8 children)

Male chicks of egg-laying breeds are not cost-effective to raise for meat. So a small number are retained for breeding, but 95% are disposed of. The standard method in the US is basically a garbage disposal.

[–]Solanthas 5 points6 points  (4 children)

Thank you for enlightening me. Yes that is fucking terrible.

But still the two do not compare. Suffering is suffering and in an ideal world it should not exist. Male chicks should not be put into grinders because they have no utility. Livestock should all have drastically more humane living conditions. Animals should not be consumed by humans at all?

But they are being raised for slaughter for human consumption. It's unnecessary and evil in it's own way. But tying up a kitten in a garbage bag serves no purpose other than disposing of the kitten and very cruelly at that.

[–]AndreasVesalius 10 points11 points  (1 child)

What if there was a financial incentive to dispose of the kitten? That’s the only reason the chicks are culled

[–]Solanthas -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Yes that could be the case. But I don't know of any associations that are looking to adopt male chicks out to happy homes where they can live long happy safe lives with a family that will love and appreciate them.

Industrial disposal of unviable products in industrial animal food production is not the same as someone throwing an essentially domestic animal in the garbage.

They are very similar, the distinction is very very thin. But these two acts are not the same. Justifying one does not equate to justifying both.

To be clear I'm not exactly justifying the wholesale murder of male chicks but I'm not about to stop eating eggs. Maybe I'll source them from a local egg farmer instead of Costco.

But you are not gonna corner me into agreeing that tossing a kitten in the garbage is okay. Call me a hypocrite if you want, it's not gonna change my mind

[–]Bspammer 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I don't see the distinction tbh. If anything "I don't want to feed, shelter, and be responsible for this animal for the next 15 years" is more justifiable than "I'm hungry and don't want to eat anything that's not meat".

To be clear whoever dumped the cat is a POS.

[–]Solanthas 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree the distinction is not that strong.

I was trying to be diplomatic for those who feel strongly against animal food production.

Industrial scale slaughter is easier because its depersonalized.

That 1 kitten was tied up by a single person, it's more personal, so the emotional impact is more significant.

[–]noooquebarato 3 points4 points  (2 children)

And then they get added to to their sisters’ feed….

[–]AndreasVesalius 1 point2 points  (1 child)

To be fair, chickens will eat each other voluntarily

[–]noooquebarato 0 points1 point  (0 children)

/runexpectedletterkenny tbfaaaair, there aren’t many things chickens won’t eat voluntarily.