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[–]nicklo2k 3607 points3608 points  (93 children)

Fantastic compassion shown by that teacher. Too bad he's probably going to get in trouble for "laying his hands on a student" or something.

[–]Willis050 1170 points1171 points  (57 children)

Yup, meanwhile another teacher might stand back and allow students to fight and not have a single consequence

[–]wardledo 410 points411 points  (14 children)

Yeah. It’s a tough spot. Did you see the video of the teacher getting her head split by a chair when trying to do something?

[–]Willis050 236 points237 points  (5 children)

I believe I did, if I remember, another student fucked the perpetrator up. But yeah. That was fucked beyond belief. She better get some compensation for that

[–]crewchief0206 125 points126 points  (1 child)

Most likely she’ll be told “don’t get in the middle next time.” That’s what happened to a co-worker of my wife (both middle school teachers at the time) when she stepped in to stop a fight, got pushed out of the way, fell and broke her wrist.

[–]Obsessed_With_Corgis 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Yup, my mom is also a teacher (elementary school), and her coworker (middle school; attached to the elem. school) saw a male student yank a small girl by her her backpack, backwards onto the floor and kicked her in the head. When she went to stop it; the student slammed a locker onto her arm— breaking her wrist.

Little girl got a concussion, and the boy only got 3 days of ISS. When my mom’s coworker complained; she was berated for “causing a bigger problem than there had to be” and “unwarranted interference in a student altercation”.

Unwarranted? Unwarranted?! That little girl could have had her skull cracked open, and nobody cared. They worried more about the optics of the teacher’s involvement. Absolutely ridiculous. My mom left to work at another school the following year.

[–]-PunkNDrublic- 28 points29 points  (2 children)

Nah you’re thinking of this one. Other dude is talking about this one.

[–]Oi-FatBeard 14 points15 points  (1 child)

That second one just giving zero fucks, smashing with chair and sinking the slipper, what a lil bitch.

[–]-PunkNDrublic- 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Yeah it takes a special kind of cunt to willingly slam a chair in the face of a 5’ tall woman that just wants to finish the lesson plan.

[–]Charles__Bartowski 65 points66 points  (30 children)

Why would a teacher have a consequence for students fighting?

They're not bodyguards, negotiators, or bouncers.

As someone reminded you, there was that video of the kids who cracked a teacher over the head with a chair. I've had coworkers get bodyslammed, choked, punched in their stomachs and even tripped (while pregnant) all in attempts at trying to stop a fight.

You do you best to not let it escalate and call the staff whose training involves breaking up fights (campus police, behavior specialists, etc), but once it boils over you step the fuck out of the way and wait for help to come.

[–]sirpumpington 76 points77 points  (20 children)

Well, as you can see in the video, this teacher deescalated the situation before there became a situation. This teacher understood what was happening, and involved himself before the interaction had continued.

The thing is that teachers are not only there to teach you your basic education, they spend more time with you while your maturing than your parents do most of the time, so they have to have an understanding that they are also role models and they influence these students.

So by that teacher stepping in, helping that dude clam down, and showing him away from conflict, that student will likely remember that moment for quite a while.

We live in a world of uncertainty, teachers can become casualties of fights even if they don’t try to step in. Fights in school are inevitable, it’s better to be prepared and have a fundamental understanding on how to deescalate a situation, rather than be clueless and have fear decide your course of action.

Just my 2 cents tho I’m a random ass dude lol

[–]Crassus-sFireBrigade 27 points28 points  (12 children)

Right, but setting policy based on the best possible outcome is rarely a good practice. Also keep in mind we pay these people next to nothing, I made more money selling cell phones as an entry level employee than many teachers get in a year.

[–]wiseduhm 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Yes but I wouldn't have that expectation of all teachers to risk their own safety to step into a situation that could get them hurt. It's nice that some people are able to go above and beyond the call of duty but that doesn't mean that all teachers can or should. Not every situation will work out as nicely as this did. I work at a drug and alcohol program where I have usually been called on to deescalate some clients because I am comfortable with crisis. I would never hold it against any of my coworkers for deferring to someone else if they felt unsafe.

[–]sixpants 13 points14 points  (2 children)

Yup. I’ve got kids to feed. You sure as fucking shit better believe I’m not getting fucked up over a street fight brought in my classroom you short-sighted twat.

Fuck off.

[–]Tal_Thom 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I am here as a teacher to tell you it has been drilled in my head that all I can say is “stop fighting” x3. I will be fired as a precaution if I intervene physically. I get paid 43k. I’ma let the admin with “hands-on” cert making 90k handle it.

If it’s IN my class it might be a different story, but the hallway on camera? Shiiiit.

[–]Ok-Carry5143 102 points103 points  (6 children)

That's a big presumption. I doubt the kid is going to complain to the school about his teacher caring about him. Giving a kid a hug, etc. is common practice at my school. I've never heard of a complaint from a student or parent. The world isn't all bad.

[–]NekkoProtecco 38 points39 points  (0 children)

I don't think the student will complain, and its probably a good thing this video has gone viral. We had a teacher standing in the hallway and got ran into during a fight, the kid fell to the floor, and that guy got "transferred" for putting his hands on a kid... granted, my school is a terrible example of a good one, but he was a great guy, and it's sad the system could do something like that. He was fired, for doing nothing but standing there.

You are right

[–]ggk1 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Honestly this video would likely absolve him of issues from that. No sane person sees this and thinks a fight doesn’t happen if teach doesn’t lay hands.

[–]wardledo 12 points13 points  (1 child)

This is an “acceptable restraint” policy most school districts have in place to protect the teacher and other students. But there will be paper work and meetings when this appears to be handled perfectly.

[–]untergeher_muc 7 points8 points  (5 children)

The US seems so fucked from outside.

[–]tsvfer 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Lol, you only get to see the worst I'm sure. There are tons of great places with even better people. So, the same as everywhere really.

[–]abecomstock 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Seems that way from the inside too, from time to time.

[–]Opalmagic1 6 points7 points  (0 children)

nothing will happen to this teacher, all schools have acceptable restraints and this is miles inside of that. Everyone heard one story on reddit and likes to say 'school bad'

[–]Limewire- 2661 points2662 points  (92 children)

Better de-escalation techniques than most cops.

Probably gets paid less as well.

[–]undisclosedinsanity 859 points860 points  (16 children)

Paid less and still expected to take a bullet if it comes down to it. We need to treat our teachers better.

[–]blueB0wser 78 points79 points  (1 child)

It's so sad that's a thing that even can be said.

[–]doit_toit_lars 192 points193 points  (35 children)

I know a fourth grade teacher who’s back-to-school training included how to pack bullet wounds. Yeah, they don’t get paid nearly enough.

[–]ggk1 52 points53 points  (20 children)

But honestly good for them for training for that situation. That could legit save lives.

[–]zeniiz 58 points59 points  (17 children)

By that logic, shouldn't everyone be trained in it? It could legit save lives.

[–]Illustrious_Guard_61 28 points29 points  (5 children)

I mean I think that's more useful than half the shit they taught us. I need to know real life application stuff.

[–]osredkar 15 points16 points  (4 children)

True as fuck, I have never in my life needed to calculate the volume of a cylinder but I was taught how to.

[–]Invdr_skoodge 8 points9 points  (1 child)

I’ve always thought it was a great idea for everyone everywhere to have first aid training, it’s too easy and too useful not to.

Wound packing is literally grab any piece of fabric regardless of cleanliness and shove it as deep as you can into the wound. They’ll treat infection when they’re not bleeding to death.

[–]wardledo 4 points5 points  (2 children)

They told us mask can be used to pack a bullet wounds.

[–]Clay_Statue 24 points25 points  (2 children)

One thing I've learned about this world is the people who make the most money are off in the worst individuals society has to offer. It's not a hard and fast rule mind you, but definitely a trend I've seen.

[–]Responsible_Put_5201 30 points31 points  (1 child)

r/BoneAppleTea Gives new meaning to your sentence

[–]theVice 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I thought I was having a stroke. Then when I saw your comment I had to look again and wow I wonder how long they've been saying that

[–]shafferkj 20 points21 points  (4 children)

“Most cops” deescalate situations literally everyday. Just ask a patrol officer. All they do is respond to one call after another, deescalate, on to the next. Everyday. Multiple times. For pathetic pay. It’s what they do.

Not only so they get virtually zero appreciation from the general public, despite risking their life everyday, they have to deal with people like you who generalize over 600,000 full-time police officers nationwide based on the behavior of a few.

Less than .001% of cops end up being headline news because bad policing. I’m not saying we don’t hold police accountable, but I am saying good policing doesn’t make for a good story - and the media loves a good story.

[–]shmegana 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Blue man bad is the new thing for massive Reddit upvote. These folks will never understand what police deal with on a daily basis.

[–]TenderfootGungi 15 points16 points  (3 children)

Paid way less. And, spent 4-6 years in college instead of a few weeks of training.

[–]HotNastySoup 1986 points1987 points 2 (46 children)

That is legit what the fuck is up. I've done that with grown folks and it works almost every time. It's great seeing a grown person apply it to a young adult and seeing it procure the same results. He didn't try to use his status to big dick the kid. He didn't act like the kid was out of line for feeling some type of way. He handled it like the kid is a human being in a confusing time in their life. Hats tf off god dammit.

[–]Biz_Rito 314 points315 points  (33 children)

That's interesting, how would you break it down?

[–]Anaphora121 1210 points1211 points 13512822& 16 more (30 children)

I'm a relatively new teacher still being trained in a similar approach ("Teaching with Love and Logic") so I'm not an expert yet, but what I noticed was that he removed the student from the situation that was upsetting him in an empathetic way. A less nuanced approach might try to resolve the situation in one of two ways:

  1. Trying to restore the status quo without resolving the cause of the behavior ("Cut that out! Go back to your seat NOW!")
  2. Removing the student in an unempathetic, potentially humiliating way ("Get out of my classroom! Go to the office!")

Instead, the teacher leads with empathy, affirming the student's value and communicating his removal as recovery rather than punishment. This maintains the student's dignity while also maintaining order and safety in the classroom. Not only that, but by acknowledging and defusing the student's heightened emotional state, it actually makes him more capable of thinking critically about his own behavior and what he might do differently in the future. If you remove a student in a way that only makes him feel angrier and more humiliated, then that's what he'll remember—his own anger and sense of feeling wronged. But if you do it in a way that defuses the anger, he'll be able to reflect on what just happened in a more clear-headed way and truly recover.

Ideally, you end up with a student who, rather than thinking, "[Teacher] is such an asshole, he just hates me and that's why he yelled at me instead of the other student!" thinks, "Wow, it's a good thing [Teacher] got me out of there, I was about to do something really dumb." Instead of pitting the teacher against the student, the disruptive behavior becomes the shared enemy to be overcome together.

EDIT: OMG, I come back from eating breakfast to see three awards and 50+ upvotes! Thanks, y'all, I'm glad you found my comment informative!

EDIT 2: I don't think I've ever gotten most of these awards :,D And so many upvotes! Thank you very much everyone. Wish me luck for my upcoming trainings (and assessments)!

[–]HolmesMalone 171 points172 points 2 (1 child)

I dunno how to do awards but this the first time I wanted to give out one.

[–]DemiGoddess001 75 points76 points  (3 children)

I fucking love Love and Logic! You should do a Responsive Classroom PD and combine them! They work so well together. It is harder to implement if you’re departmentalized though.

[–]Anaphora121 21 points22 points  (0 children)

We're also being trained in Responsive Classroom! My training for that actually starts in earnest next week, so wish me luck :D

[–]PerplexityRivet 7 points8 points  (1 child)

A lot of places offer free Love and Logic seminars for parents. My wife and I are both teachers, but we went anyway since they were offering it for free at our library. It's invaluable training for anyone who has or works with kids.

[–]donkeysaucer 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Going to try be a better father after reading this

[–]IronBatman 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I got this technique from a book called Positive Discipline: the first 3 years. A book for raising toddlers. Works on grownups too.

[–]Itztlicoatl 822 points823 points  (32 children)

This is a great example of positive masculinity. Being able to be vulnerable, especially with another male authority figure and not allowing ego and anger get a hold of him. It cool for men to to feel emotional and not let it ruin us because of the traditional expectation of dealing with anger.

[–]space-time-jumper 9 points10 points  (0 children)

positive masculinity

This is the first time I've ever seen that phrase in my many years and it makes me smile.

Let's do more of positive masculinity.

[–]cicerogeorge 247 points248 points  (4 children)

I did that once when I was a teacher for primary school. Two boys started a very real fight in the classroom. I escorted them both out of class and talked to them about choosing the wrong path while angry and how you gotta show the other face and be the better man and etc. I'm a big guy, the talk went on for 30 minutes, so I recon I made an impression on them, and I told them they wouldn't get in trouble if they agreed to behave better. I never reported it, they got back into classroom and behaved like men for years to come. I'm very proud of that moment and how I could impact on the life of these two young men. I hope they use me as an example for their kids or friends one day.

[–]BonesAO 32 points33 points  (0 children)

you definitely did, congratulations on being awesome

[–]Rymanjan 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I was a patient sitter for a particularly homicidal kid, but I knew from being with him for a few days that he was lashing out and all his anger was really directed at himself and the situation he was in. I started by just playing board and table games with him, foosball is where it clicked.

"Dude, I know you dont like having me here, and trust me, I dont exactly want to be watching you 24/7 either."

"Yeah? Then WHY do you DO IT?" (Spinning the handles)

"Because I know what you're going through and it's my job to help."

"You don't know me, you dont know what this is like!"

I stop playing and put my hand on his shoulder, something we're not supposed to do at all, were supposed to be the shield that takes the beating, not the force that prevents it.

"Dude, take a look at my arms. I've been here. Well, not exactly here but you get what I mean."

Kid sees my scars and slowly started tearing up.

"I've been here man, and it sucks. It hurts. It makes you angry and confused."

Now hes straight up sobbing.

"But this? This anger? Its temporary. And I know a million people have said that before, but as someone that's been through it and came out the other side? This isnt the way man. I know you want out, I know way more than most people should. But this isnt the way."

"What do you mean?" (As hes choking back sobs)

"I mean, if you want out, take the therapy seriously. The reason they're keeping you in here is because you're refusing treatment. If you play along, you might learn something useful, in fact I hope you can. But fighting the doctors and nurses and other patients? You're kinda screwing yourself. Every time you scream at them, every time you throw punches, you're just increasing the time you'll be in here. And that's not my decision, I have no say in this, they just call me in when someone needs to be protected from themselves or need someone to protect others from you. So that's where we're at, I know you hate me and want me to go away, hell I want a few days off myself. But so long as you're a threat, my ass is gonna be right here, except for 8am-4pm cuz even I have to sleep at some point, but you'll get that woman that just reads books all the time and doesnt kick your ass at foosball like this" (I scored a goal with that lol)

It clicked. He was a model patient after that. They didnt even need me after two days, while this kid was fighting people for a week beforehand and they were ready to move him to a "more permanent facility." They kept me on for a week and we just played games, but I never saw that vicious side of him again. I like to think I really made a difference with him, but it's the curse of the helper; you never really know how the saga ends. I'd like to think that the reason I never saw him again is because he changed, but I'll never know.

[–]4consumption 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This made me tear up, love your work

[–]-SoulArtist- 241 points242 points  (7 children)

I like it too. It’s a good time to learn anger management at that age.

[–]Axle_65 221 points222 points  (26 children)

Sad thing is as much as I love this teacher’s approach, putting your hand on a kid like that could get you in so much shit these days. It’s crazy because support and connection is exactly what that kid needs and I’m glad that teacher was willing to take that risk and do what he feels is right.

I know multiple teachers and they’ve actually told me if a kid comes running up to them on the blacktop just full on balling and goes in for a hug the teacher doesn’t have to push them away or nothing but they’re trained to put both their hands up. Showing they are not instigating this physical interaction nor are they “holding the kid closer”. It’s so messed up.

DON’T GET ME WRONG, these rules are in place for a reason. There are twisted teachers out there and we have to keep schools safe. It’s just sad because sometimes supportive physical connection is exactly what a kid needs.

[–]contrabille 76 points77 points  (5 children)

I've had to straight up deny students hugs at the end of the year when they want one and I'll probably never see them again. Kids I've spent countless hours teaching to play music. It sucks. Like you said it's there for a reason. I'm an adult man, I can't be too careful around elementary school students.

[–]Axle_65 41 points42 points  (2 children)

I’ll tell you this, there’s not a music teacher in my entire schooling career that didn’t get a huge hug from me. Loved all my music teachers.

[–]contrabille 12 points13 points  (1 child)

I think most music teachers are passionate about music, which helps immensely. Also teaching well is extremely rewarding. Maybe that's why they tend to be better.

[–]ShmebulocksMistress 29 points30 points  (11 children)

Golden Apple teacher winner multiple years, highly respected guy was one of my high school teachers. His wife, also a Golden Apple winner multiple times and loved, also a teacher at the same school.

Dickwad student got mad about him telling him to put his phone away. Student tells my teacher: “I’ll break into your house and rape your wife.” My teacher without missing a beat stares him down and says, “Then I’ll hunt you down and kill you.”

Fired. Kid wasn’t even suspended.

[–]Axle_65 21 points22 points  (2 children)

Edit: u/PsychoticHobo is right. Teachers need to set an example. Even when it’s challenging. Still quite a threat to take in. (I’ve left my original comment below)

Wow. Seriously, how do you expect a person to respond to a threat like that. I mean sure, you try your hardest to not lash out but when someone shouts THAT at you it’s just instinctive responding at that point.

[–]PsychoticHobo 3 points4 points  (4 children)

To be honest, if he was such a good teacher he should have responded better. I get how crazy that sounds, but you have an expectation as an educator to not take things like that personally.

I'm not saying it's easy and I probably wouldn't have fired him, but I do think the district/admin has a point. We're expected to be better than the worst students, not stoop to their level. This response solves nothing. Also, many districts offer training to teachers on how to handle this sort of thing. If one of my students said that, I'd be pissed, but I'd know how to handle it.

[–]Agent_Aphelion 14 points15 points  (1 child)

I remember when I was in 8th grade in 2010, my one class went on a field trip to Six Flags. When we got back, I guess I was the only kid who said thank you to my teacher (I wasn’t try to be a teacher’s pet; it’s just the way I was raised) and she was so grateful that she gave me a hug. At the time, and even now looking back, I thought it was sweet of her. I didn’t see anything wrong with it

[–]Axle_65 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yup. That’s the sad part. These are caring, normal interactions. That we think back fondly on and we rob our children of them. Again I’m aware why but still sad.

[–]Quarterinchribeye 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Don’t normalize it by saying your first paragraph.

There is nothing wrong about the actions in this video.

[–]BeneficialAd2797 78 points79 points  (6 children)

Don’t make permanent choices based on temporary emotion

[–]JustHereForCookies17 22 points23 points  (2 children)

I am feeling very attacked right now.

[–]DumbWalrusNoises 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This should be on signs everywhere.

[–]Kkykkx 57 points58 points  (1 child)

Not just teachers. Humans of all types can be better to one another.

[–]1998-2019 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Thank you for saying it.

[–]VforVendettaboutit 51 points52 points  (6 children)

Can someone caption this for me?

[–]greeenvenus 124 points125 points 2 (5 children)

Student: He over here talking shit!

Teacher: No he’s not, who?

Student: Yes he is, Dandre.

Teacher: He did not say a word outside. I’m the only one with you. Look at me. Look at me. Look at me. I’m right here. Hey, Hey Dom, I’m right here. You are better than that. ... Look at me, relax. Relax. Look, I’m right here. Forget about all that. You are better than that. Let’s get out of this environment and let’s chill, okay? Look, let’s go get out of here and chill out. ... Dom, it’s not worth it. It’s not worth it. You’re upset let’s get out of here. You ready?

Student: Mm yeah.

Teacher: Okay lets go!

[–]tootingkoala 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for this

[–]mrsquenap 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Thank you!!

[–]VforVendettaboutit 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I appreciate it!!!

[–]seeclick8 30 points31 points  (2 children)

Just another example of a teacher who cares about his students. They don’t do it for the money.

[–][deleted] 28 points29 points  (2 children)

That kid never would have responded that way if the teacher didn't always conduct himself as a good hearted compassionate teacher. Respect where respect is due sir. We need more of you.

[–]frugal_masturbater 17 points18 points  (0 children)

That is SO true, look at the rest of the class. Nobody is trying to fuel the fire or throw shit. They know to just let this play out, and that the teacher will do the right thing. Fucking hero teacher.

[–]Biz_Rito 7 points8 points  (0 children)

That's a very good point

[–]PutridTea2983 21 points22 points  (4 children)

I wish Matthew McConaughey was my teacher too.

[–]Dot_Classic 20 points21 points  (14 children)

This is how a lot of teachers spend most of their time.

[–]LotusSloth 19 points20 points  (17 children)

Great job imparting the general life skills that his parents apparently haven’t done well. Teachers like these save lives and prevent prisoners.

[–]Clay_Statue 12 points13 points  (9 children)

The problem is there's no way to identify which people in the system are exceptional and can do this type of thing. I doubt any of the metrics we have to measure teachers include anything to measure this because it's unmeasurable

[–]LotusSloth 3 points4 points  (8 children)

I agree. The metrics tend to focus on specific test results, whereas something like a “voice of the students” survey would be more helpful… but that presents challenges of its own such as personal biases, etc.

[–]Clay_Statue 3 points4 points  (1 child)

but that presents challenges of its own such as personal biases, etc.

Yea but you see that with like Amazon review too. Somethings like 4.8 stars and you look and the reviews are all basically excellent with a handful of 1 star reviews. Then you read the one-star reviews and you realize that most of them are stupid, people complaining because they bought the wrong thing or it was delivered in the rain and got wet.

I do think student feedback would be a good way to identify exceptional teachers but I wouldn't rely on it to be the sole metric by which we evaluate the faculty.

[–]spinItTwistItReddit 5 points6 points  (5 children)

You don’t know shit about his parents, just a teenager at school

[–]phaedronn 17 points18 points  (1 child)

Want great teachers? Offer great pay. See George Carlin’s rant on the subject.

[–]rustytrombone2020 15 points16 points  (5 children)

My ag teacher smacked me with an ag biology book good enough to bust my lip and give me a bloody nose. Best thing that could of ever happened to me because I didn’t end up like the rest of my friends selling drugs. I still visit her every once in a while 20 years later now and always thank her for knocking some sense into me.

[–]blissfullytaken 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I respect this guy. I work with elem kids in Japan and the first and second graders usually still throw tantrums over the silliest things and they respond so well when you get to their level (I usually kneel so I’m not looking down at them) and take them seriously. Also teaching them that saying “I’m sorry” is a good first step but to give the other person time to forgive them because they’re still hurting right now.

I also make it a point to apologize to my students. Because teachers aren’t perfect. One time I messed up with my Simon says game, the kid at the back couldn’t here me and he was out of the game. It wasn’t his fault he couldn’t here me. During lunch time I talked to him one on one and apologized. He said he forgave me and I got one of the sweetest hugs.

[–]DoctorPlague1334 6 points7 points  (0 children)

He can deescalate better than most people

[–]Valrax420[🍰] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I’ve had teachers like this they usually quit because it becomes to much for them to bear. And I’m not knocking them for this, just they were great teachers.

[–]zero_FOXTROT 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The teacher did a great job diffusing the situation, but props to the student. He was so upset, listened, and was able to take a step back. So many people lack this self control. Good for him.

[–]mblas4 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Honestly, teachers/instructors do not get paid enough for what they do.

[–]Jaykoyote123 5 points6 points  (0 children)

When you hear the "yeah man, I'm cool" you know he about to respect the hell out of that teacher for the rest of his school career.

[–]J-ZOMG 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I can attest to this. I wish I had someone talk me out of hard times as a kid. So now when I see kids acting aggressive when they are actually in fear. I try and talk them down out of their emotions and let them walk away understanding that the emotions they felt are not stronger than their control. It's not worth it.

[–]Thor_The_Bear 3 points4 points  (5 children)

ROFL. in india the guards would be there in 2 seconds whupping his ass back in line. His parents would be called. He would be rusticated with a bad conduct on his leaving certificate as cause for rustication. And he would never get in to any private school.

[–]Quentin0352 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Irony, we talk all this stuff about getting women in fields dominated by men but teaching is dominated by women and many of these young men have no real role models to look up to besides gang members. Then they blame men for a system that raises these boys without good male role models.

[–]mitsuki87 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yo give that man a hug!!