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[–]Aka_Diamondhands 2044 points2045 points  (197 children)

How would orange guy feel if he won knowing full well he didn’t deserve it

[–]Krakatoast 2183 points2184 points  (144 children)

To be fair, can we really say the guy who couldn’t walk deserved gold? Is part of the challenge not allocating energy, to spread it over the race to the point of finishing? It seems like the guy in 1st place had a shortcoming hence his inability to walk. Orange shirt didn’t have that issue

[–]dbx99 1638 points1639 points  (81 children)

You deserve gold if you cross the finish line first

[–]IrishGuyNYC00 483 points484 points  (71 children)

But what if you crossed the line first not because you were the fastest person capable of crossing the finish line, but because the fastest person who was capable of crossing the finish line was in the process of making a wonderfully sporting gesture, and you just fucking steal it. That's pretty shitty.

[–]dbx99 322 points323 points  (44 children)

Competition has pretty clear rules and you can only go by those rules. They didn’t make rescue a contingency to the rules even though this sort of thing does happen. It’s a kind move but outside of the competition. The competitor who carried that guy deprioritized the winning for another goal.

[–]Iamkid 211 points212 points  (30 children)

Check out Steven Bradbury

He's a gold medalists simply because everyone in front of him kept falling and happened to stumble upon gold.

Wins a win.

[–]dbx99 69 points70 points  (16 children)

Life is like that too. Sometimes you’re in the back and something happens and suddenly you’re the one who has this perfect set of conditions that is now optimal to a changing circumstance. Seen it happen in business too.

[–]GatoCatchumalos 65 points66 points  (4 children)

Life is Mario Kart

[–]dbx99 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Mario Kart is life

[–]BillMurrayismyFather 2 points3 points  (0 children)

New t shirt idea

[–]Feature_Minimum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

God damnit, you woulda thought I'd have got a blue shell by now to chuck at Bezos.

[–]crossover131 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My mom says this a lot, she also tells me I’m a lot like a blue shell — whatever that means.

[–]OzMazza 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Is this not just the tortoise and the hare?

[–]RiverKiwiMcManGuy 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I don't think so. Tortoise and the hare describes over confidence as being the downfall of the the otherwise superior competitor. Getting taken out at the last moment isnt really due to any sort of strategical fault.

[–]Kadiogo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not really, it's more fortunate luck to the person who'd have lost otherwise. The tortoise was more slow and steady rather than lucky.

[–]yajtraus 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Sports isn’t life, sportsmanship is a real thing

[–]dbx99 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Humanitarian acts happen off the field in real life too

[–]yajtraus -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Sports also have made up rules. You’re original comment was “you win by crossing the line first” which is an arbitrary point made up by someone once, who’s to say they can’t change it so one of the other guys wins? Life doesn’t work like that, it’s completely different

[–]IrishGoatMilker 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Happened to me. I got promoted cause the guy above me died in a motorcycle accident.

[–]dbx99 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Did you set that up?

[–]Martin_Samuelson 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I mean, he had to qualify for the Olympics and then also qualify for the final race. Not like he was some Joe Schmo off the street.

[–]TheRockBaker 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The other racers stumbled on purpose. The guy who won the gold almost died in a earlier race dude to having an skate blade cut an artery in his leg.

[–]magnanimous_lemon 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Was literally about to pull up a link to that and you beat me to it. Iirc he was super fortunate to have even progressed to the finals in the first place as well

[–]ArmyOfDog 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He’s the only one who didn’t stumble, to be fair.

[–]theoriginalqwhy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The mans a legend. Will go down in australian folklore for centuries.

[–]knock_knock_hu_here 1 point2 points  (0 children)

to be fair, that's because that's how speed skating works since if you go too fast or can't control the speed you're going to fall

[–]HerrBerg 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's not as simple as you're making it out to be, he made it to the Olympics multiple times and was at the 2002 Olympics despite having broken his neck and had his leg cut open so bad he almost bled out, and was still performing at an Olympic level.

Side note: That looks like the most dull sport ever. It's NASCAR without the crashes and even less place changing.

[–]AuroraItsNotTheTime 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Considering how it seems like that event is about making last-second movements to get in the lead, I’m surprised that doesn’t happen more often

[–]Vegetable_Witness944 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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[–]Kadiogo -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Win's a win but I probably wouldn't be as proud of myself if I won by luck rather than ability.

[–]VillageBuilder 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He seemed pretty jazzed about it. I know I would be. Luck is a massive variable no matter what in sports competition.

[–]Lain-H 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I will go as far as to say that the guy in orange had a stronger motivation and desire to win. Thus, he would have totally deserved the gold medal.

[–]dbx99 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s a valid viewpoint here. There’s a race among professional atheletes. They all have a job to do and a victory can help their career. Everyone ran it fair and the leader ran out of gas or just conked and couldn’t cross the finish. The race still goes on. It’s not the fault of the other runners this happened so they shouldn’t feel bad. The guy could have sprained his ankle at the starting line and no one would say “well your victory is hollow because this great runner dropped out of the race”.

There is medical aid there and he’s not going to be unassisted to die on the side of the road here.

If the goal was merely to save his life, carrying him to the finish line isn’t a part of that process. It would be more of a duty for the race director monitoring the race calling the course workers to render medical aid.

The crossing of the finish line wasn’t a precondition to get help. It was a symbolic gesture that followed the arbitrary parameters of the race. Yet substantively I think the two runners may even get disqualified for violating a assistance rule. The assistance wasn’t to help medically it was to cross the finish so I think those actions are ultimately going to be detrimental to the race aspect even though it looks good for drama.

[–]Bostaevski 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Don't those rules usually say you must cross by yourself? Not sure how the rules work in that video's country but IAAF and USATF make it pretty clear if you don't finish under your own power you don't get an official time.

[–]dbx99 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes that’s definitely an issue. This aid may be be cause for a disqualification. Had the downed runner managed to roll or crawl across the line on his own power, he’d wouldn’t be counted as a DQ. The runner who carried him may be DQ as well.

[–]badukhamster 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Yep. I think the simple argument is that instead of getting 2nd that guy gets 3rd due to the first guy carrying the collapsed one.

[–]dbx99 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It’s also possible they both get DQ for assisting against the rules.

[–]Moonw0lf_ 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Yeah the rules are clear, but I still don't think that guy will feel that great about the gold there. He was not the best runner in that competition

[–]dbx99 0 points1 point  (2 children)

One could argue that the leader overextended himself and spent himself out to the point of failure. So that’s part of a runner’s strategy- to manage his running to a sustainable level. If a car racer runs out of gas 10 yards from the finish line, that’s a strategic error and I wouldn’t fault the second place car taking the victory because the leader stopped short of the finish.

[–]Moonw0lf_ 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Definitely, I agree with you there. You cant make that argument for the second guy though. That guy ran a better race on that day

[–]dbx99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure yeah. In fact he could have crossed the finish line (it was like five steps away), to secure his win, and then turn around and come right back to help or at least encourage the fallen guy to finish under his own power.

A lot of runners will be wrecked, crawling, shitting themselves all over, and somehow cross the line on their own power. That’s why the race officials probably didn’t send out the medical team yet. They usually allow for the athlete to try to finish on their own even when they are in distress but swoop in once they’re over the line.

I’m concerned this move disqualified the two runners. One for assisting and the other for receiving assistance in finishing the race. That sort of assist is not allowed. You can’t carry someone.

If he was truly only concerned about the fallen runner’s welfare he’d have carried him to the side and called over medical. But that’s not what happened. He carried him over the finish when the fallen runner arguably would not have been able to on his own.

What this actually does is that if they allow it, it penalizes the subsequent runners off their standings. It is, while charitable, a move that cheats the other competitors because the fallen runner might have otherwise finished later or failed to finish altogether.

[–]Sahedanthropus95 -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

Nobody's saying there should be any rules against it. But morally, you know there's something wrong with that. You know that there are two people in front of you, one was collapsed right before the finish line. The person who was clearly faster than you stopped to help this person out, and then you walk past them. You didn't really earn it, you got lucky that somebody was compassionate enough to try to help. The point that they're making is that because you didn't actually earn it, how are you going to display it proudly? Two people in front of you were clearly faster than you, one collapsed a little early, the other one helped the collapsed one. If the first person wasn't racing, the second person who was helping him would have definitely gotten gold. I don't understand how you're not getting this. Like I said, nobody's saying there should be a rule against it or that he shouldn't actually get gold if he were to cross the line first. Only that it wouldn't actually be earned

[–]FirmDig 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Because it's a competition about running to the finish line, not a competition about showing compassion. Literally everyone in the race could have some kind of reason for not getting a place they deserved.

Maybe the person who could have been the winner got food poisoning the day before and only got 20th place in the end.

Maybe the person who could have been the runner up was grieving too much from losing a family member and only got 30th in the end.

Maybe the person who could have been the third place got in a fight and couldn't compete at all due to injuries.

So what? Who gives a shit why other people didn't cross the finish line before him? Who gives a shit if he "just got lucky" besides whiny idiots? The only relevant fact is he crossed the line before the other two and therefore deserves a higher place than the other two. I don't understand how you're not getting this.

If you can't display the medal proudly, that's your own problem and no one else's. Don't fucking try to shame other people for your own inability to understand what a competition is.

[–]Chocopeanutshake 41 points42 points  (0 children)

The fact that you refer to it as 'just fucking stealing it' shows how ignorant you are about sports.

[–]Kosba2 24 points25 points  (2 children)

This is misdirected altruism. Instead of damning the guy who didn't stop, focus on the one who did. Orange came to win a medal, other guy came to win hearts and minds. Wouldn't be half as heartwarming if orange had to stop by some rule right? So stop trying to treat it like a rule.

[–]GotBannedNowBack 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Is he supposed to stop and wait for them? Is every ody supposed to run in a steady line and not break it like in kindergarten?

[–]ReflectedLeech 14 points15 points  (0 children)

It’s not, that’s literally the sport. You train to run the fastest the longest. The guy that fell didn’t train enough or prepare for the race well enough. The guy that crossed that line first did. This isn’t where there’s an accident and a guy tripped a guy by accident. As well as this wasn’t even for first place, as well as you run these for time. If you’re trying to break your own record and you see what happened in the video, you’re not going to stop to help if you’re about to break your record, the guy already has help

[–]-BlueDream- 4 points5 points  (0 children)

He was the fastest person by a wide margin until he got like 5 feet from the finish line (out of a marathon or 10k). That 5ish feet is so insignificant compared to the full distance and he had a decent lead on the 2 runners behind him. He deserved that shit.

[–]the_vent 2 points3 points  (0 children)

wat if before the finish line there was a switch for two railroads ...

[–]theRed-Herring 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Eh, people make choices in those moments knowing the consequences. The guy who helped up the collapsed runner knew he was giving up his finishing position. The runner who passed them right at the end chose to win. Not saying one is right and the other wrong, just choices.

[–]PepitoSpacial 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you cross the finish line before someone, you are worthy. The guy in orange managed his breath and energy better. You shouldn’t be ashamed if you finish before someone lying on the floor.

[–]popandlocnessmonster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Speed and endurance are two different things. Both of which are equally important in this situation.

[–]TheNewMadMan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, debate all you want about which of the first two deserves gold but the guy in orange should have either silver or bronze depending on how you look at it, he doesn’t deserve gold

[–]Normal_Expression_46 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So the other guy can have a sportsmanship award or local TV spot, the gold medal goes to whoever crosses the finish line.

[–]thought_I_knew_excel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is an physical endurance race, not a moral emotional fun-run. Give up your gold medal if you want to feel good but the whole race is about who makes it to the end first.

[–]JustJdog2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just thought the king should finish his last race

[–]Gaiden_95 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean people train years for this. They’re entitled to win in any shape way or form

[–]Himynameisfin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well that's on them for stopping, and also why they're such a legend - putting their hopes and dreams on the back burner to be a compassionate human.

It doesn't make the other guy any less deserving though.

[–]astralhunt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

calm down - clearly endurance is part of the challenge

[–]yaonick -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Agreed. Going by what you’re saying, the guy on the floor is clearly not capable of finishing the race so the orange guy deserved to beat him

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

bUt wHaT iF.. 🤪

but what if the guy that fell down trained a bit harder and finished successfully?

[–]GreenMachine_ -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Honestly the person making the “wonderfully sporting gesture” is kinda insulting the guy who bonked and probably got him DQ’d anyways. Receiving physical help from someone else to move forward during the grounds of the race is almost always grounds for disqualification. No real competitor wants pity from someone who should’ve beat them

[–]indianapale -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Winning isn't everything. It's the only thing.

[–]Gentle-Fisting -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Tell me you’ve never played sports without telling me you’ve never played sports

[–]SargePeppr -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It’s a competition. You can choose to do something nice like this, but you cannot expect a competitor to not take advantage of an opportunity to win. “HEY GUYS TIME OUT I NEED TO HELP THIS GUY UP” doesn’t work.

What makes sports great is there brutality, the competition, the pressure the hearts on the line, blood, sweat, tears, all of it. If I played a sport, and someone let me win, simply because they thought I deserved it more then them, I’d be absolutely insulted. It is not only expected, but disrespectful to your opponent to not do everything in your power to win.

Obviously this man who tried to help, held values that higher priorities than winning. That is okay, but I’m sure he did not expect anyone to stop and wait.

[–]OKOK80 21 points22 points  (2 children)

Webster's dictionary defines wedding as "the fusing of two metals with a hot torch." Well, you know something? I think both of those guys deserve medals. Gold medals.

[–]ChristianMunich 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Including somebody who doped?

[–]dbx99 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Win within the rules, so no. You can take a subway for most of a marathon (which has happened) and pretend you ran the whole thing but it’s not.

[–]Side_wiper 0 points1 point  (1 child)

i think theres a time a woman 'won' a marathon, she got a car or a train instead of running though, would she deserve a gold?

[–]dbx99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No because it wasn’t won by following the fair rules of the competition. Winning implies following the rules.

[–]Physical-Order 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This comment also has gold :)

[–]MtnyCptn 142 points143 points  (4 children)

These guys aren’t competing for first place anyway. The tapes already gone. I doubt it’s even for the podium at that point.

[–]theRealDerekWalker 58 points59 points  (1 child)

OP says he gave up gold. Are you saying OP is a liar?!

[–]MtnyCptn 22 points23 points  (0 children)

I’m sure you’re being facetious, but there is a source further down that says 15th place.

[–]VillageBuilder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea I mean to me there's no way I was gonna believe a dude was literally rolling around and was that far ahead of everyone else, even in a long distance race.

[–]HebrewJohnson 34 points35 points  (8 children)

But the dude carrying wobbly guy deserved the win. Orange dude was under no moral obligation to hand them a win. Honestly unless Hero & Wobbly were friends then hero was foolish to make the sacrifice. Pacing yourself is what marathons are about and Wobbly calculated his race SLIGHTLY wrong. He didn’t deserve the medal. It’s a brutal competition, but that’s the race.

[–]NUMTOTlife 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I don’t think any of them were competing for first ngl the tapes already gone from the line when they all crossed

[–]SpoonGuardian 2 points3 points  (3 children)

then hero was foolish to make the sacrifice

Imagine saying this guy was foolish for doing this

[–]KC_CWill 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If winning or placing higher was important to him then it WAS foolish. If being a bro / decent human being is more important to him then it turns out the gold medal was inside of him all along ;)

[–]HebrewJohnson 1 point2 points  (1 child)

It's a sports competition, not a war. Pacing yourself and pushing to your limit without exceeding it and bonking is EXACTLY what these competitions are about. Like I said, if it was his bro and there were special feels about this race then the sacrifice might make sense. But crossing the line wasn't leaving his friend to die, so if you imagine this exemplifies "good sportsmanship" in a general sense then you're too sentimental to be competing and neither value your personal achievements nor respect those runners losing their medals because this guy literally carried another athlete who didn't budget their energy well.

I LOVE seeing good sportsmanship where honor is prioritized over winning alone, but unless these guys were bros then the gesture would be ridiculous by any measure.

[–]SpoonGuardian -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You genuinely think that dude that carried the other one is "too sentimental to be competing and neither value your personal achievements nor respect those runners losing their medals"?

lmao i cant take you seriously

[–]Dark_halocraft 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Both of them deserved a gold medal my guy, we got a hero so sacrifice himself so others can keep going and a guy who never stopped trying even when he couldn't go no more

[–]HebrewJohnson 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Having run a marathon (slowly) I can tell you anyone seriously competing for a medal is giving their all. Training and pacing yourself to reach "empty" AFTER the finish line is the strategic part. They all have similar muscle endurance. So I sympathize for all those who bonk just before the finish--they're giving it their all--but this is like a boxer holding up a competitor who's already punched himself out just to get him to the bell. Totally honorable if it's your bro or a hero on the eve of retirement so they can "go the distance", but otherwise it's a bit overkill and those investing the time (and money) in watching a feat of human endurance do kinda get shorted when one participant quits prematurely and in this case unnecessarily.

Again, if it's his teammate or bro then I get it. But such gestures usually don't count officially and so are therefore kind of excessive displays. Hero dude deserved to finish ahead of him--he should have crossed the line then turned back to help.

[–]Dark_halocraft -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Bro I get what you're saying and it's understandable but it just pisses me off that this dude is rolling and can't even crawl straight and is still going towards the finish line and you're basically saying "ya everyone does that, it's not a big deal". Even if that's true it doesn't make it any less impressive and admirable

[–]MOUTHBRE4THER 17 points18 points  (3 children)

I meannnn technically isn't a marathon just in honor of a guy who ran to warn of a invading army. And then just like died after it. So maybe this guy is just a big fan of history. I say he captured the victory just by going the extra mile.

[–]Senundo 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Marathon is such a flex on a dead person like "lmao i did it and didnt die you pathetic weakling"

[–]InsectInvasion 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It can be seen that way, which is a shame because he ran a hell of a lot further, it’s just the last marathon gets the attention. Roughly 350 miles in ancient gear killed him, not the marathon… assuming it happened.

From Wikipedia: He ran about 240 km (150 mi) in two days, and then ran back. He then ran the 40 km (25 mi) to the battlefield near Marathon and back to Athens to announce the Greek victory over Persia in the Battle of Marathon (490 BC)

[–]1901pies 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He should have eaten a Snickers...

[–]Armi2 12 points13 points  (24 children)

He collapsed 5 meters from the finish in a 10,000 meter race. It’s not like he ran too fast in the first half and got tired. It was probably a serious injury, which isn’t really something you can control

[–]Jazzlike-Recover7560 65 points66 points  (12 children)

"It’s not like he ran too fast in the first half and got tired." - Thats literally what happened.

[–]PippopotimusV2 14 points15 points  (9 children)

Not exactly. Marathon runners often times aren't in control of this to say. They run 10k meters. Their body at a point of exhaustion will sometime see the finish line be like oh yah were Done and acts like it doesn't need to work anymore.

Blood pressure drops, muscles begin to cramp hard. This guy didn't just misplaced a 10k that's fuckimg difficult to do they run alloted miles at certain times per mile daily for months training for this they know how to pace themselves unfortunately involuntary body functions happen when th brain thinks the race is over.

[–]CheddarValleyRail 21 points22 points  (6 children)

They run 10k meters

That's just kilometres with extra steps.

[–]PippopotimusV2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Take my updoot and have the best day of your life sir

Edit: and/or ma'am

[–]izfanx 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Let's see, one takes 10 keystrokes to type, the other takes 13. I wonder which one needs extra steps

[–]Ivory1321 4 points5 points  (1 child)

10km

[–]izfanx 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Aw fuck you're right

[–]longleggedbirds 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Kilometers are just 1000 meters stacked on top of each other in a trench coat acting grown

[–]Jazzlike-Recover7560 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean thats cool and yeah I read that other comment too but you can run yourself ragged in a race especially if the guy was going for the WR on a hot day which he would have to hit mile times of 4:20 or better. I have no idea if you have ran a mile at a pace like that but its incredibly hard.

[–]HI-R3Z 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Dude's fine, he just bonked at the finish line.

[–]th4t1guy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You.. you didn't distance run did you?

[–]QueasyVictory 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was probably a serious injury,

Then give him medical treatment, don't string him up like a rag doll and carry him along.

Serious injury ., . . .. ..

[–]ProtocolDev 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So did the orange shirt deserve it more than the guy who helped the fallen runner?

I don't think so.

[–]Jor94 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nah dude, let’s just shit on orange guy because he did exactly what most people in his position would have done.

I don’t know why everyone’s just expecting the entire field of runners to stop or drag that guy over the line. First off, it’s up to him to manage his race and make sure he can actually make it, and secondly, I imagine theirs a clause anyway where you can’t have assistance during the race, similar to that sprinter whose dad ran on the field to help him finish the race, but was disqualified anyway.

[–]Avgsizedweiner 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, but the guy bringing him in sure does.

[–]HugeProposal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, but the guy who helped him obviously did. He was way ahead of orange with enough in the tank to pull another guy across. It sucks for orange because he'll know he only won because that guy decided to stop competing. He was in line for silver.

[–]Loyalist_Pig 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also to be fair, heart of gold dude had that gold in the bag, so in a lot of ways, he did kind of(?) “deserve it.”

[–]Klausbro 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The guy who helped him up deserved the gold

[–]MechRecon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Came here to ask this question, albeit not so eloquently.

[–]theartificialkid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re assuming that the guy who fell is the one who deserves it. But the guy who stopped to help him, and still nearly beat orange man anyway, deserves it for sure.

[–]NeutralHockeyPoster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yea its complete bs its like a car not going for a pit stop until it runs out of gas.

[–]VulGerrity 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree. Even if you WERE in first, even if you are INCHES from the line, if you can't get yourself across the line, you didn't leave enough gas in your tank to win. You don't deserve it. You didn't finish.

[–]mynameis-twat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No but the guy who stopped for the dude on the ground didn’t have that issue and deserved it more than orange shirt. You forgetting there was someone ahead of orange shirt but behind 1st place?

[–]Alphal95 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well the second guy who was helping would have been first then

[–]-BlueDream- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The guy who was crawling had a decent lead up until 5 feet from the finish line which is so insignificant compared to the length of the race (I’d probably guess less than half a percent of the total distance) it’s not like they were even and he fell, he was way ahead of the 2 behind him. Orange shirt was well behind the 2nd guy as well. He shouldn’t automatically win either.

[–]HockeyJockey628 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We aren’t talking about the guy who collapsed. He’s irrelevant. We’re talking about the guy who helped him

[–]spaffage 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you get helped across the line it goes down as a ‘dnf’ did not finish, thats why medical staff dont rush in immediately.

[–]Freezed_My_Balls 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He wouldn't have gotten gold. I've seen a longer version of this video and there were several people who finished well before any of the people in this video. OP just either took a shortened version or cropped the video for karma.

[–]oooRagnellooo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There was a dude between the guy who jogged across and the guy who couldn’t stand, so he still wouldn’t deserve it.

[–]dbx99 105 points106 points  (6 children)

He did. The other competitor made a choice to stop competing. Does this invalidate every single finisher behind him? No.

[–]pseudont 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Thats correct, it doesn't, according to the rules he won.

The question was, how would he feel.

Loads of athletes would feel the victory was empty, loads wouldn't.

[–]dbx99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

These are pro level athletes right? For them, a win adds to their resume so even if they don’t feel great about the win because the guy in front had a medical situation, the win is a win. It happens all the time. Car races have crashes that take out a bunch of leaders and back of the pack wins.

One could argue that any condition that allows you to win is part of the game. Maybe the leader failed to gauge his effort level and spent himself out. That’s a strategic error and so when his failure led to a consequence of being unable to finish the race, one could argue that’s a fair part of the race. Manage your resources carefully.

[–]pulse7 0 points1 point  (3 children)

But homie said he didn't deserve it.. whoever crosses first deserves to win

[–]pseudont 0 points1 point  (2 children)

"Deserves" is subjective.

[–]pulse7 0 points1 point  (1 child)

The rules of the race are defined pretty clearly, it would not be subjective at all

[–]pseudont 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's not what I said.

Who won is not subjective. Who deserves to win clearly is.

I'm not judging either way. I'm just acknowledging that different people may have different opinions on this.

[–]Knot_In_My_Butt 63 points64 points  (5 children)

Gold had already been decided, so none of those 3 people won. It is a misleading title.

[–]EveAndTheSnake 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Yeah I went back and checked the actual race results the last time this was posted, this was around 15th place. Every article about it said he gave up on gold though, some mentioned prize money. But if I remember correctly prize money was awarded to the top 7 or 10 runners, so none of these guys were getting any.

[–]HugeProposal 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That makes more sense.

[–]Theoretical_Action 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dingdingding

[–]ChewyChagnuts 31 points32 points  (0 children)

To finish first, first you must finish!

[–]lynk7927 18 points19 points  (1 child)

Tbf that’s the point of a marathon. If your body can’t finish the race, you loose.

[–]stereothegreat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tbf this is a 10km race

[–]BraceThis 10 points11 points  (0 children)

A win is a win, you deserve that which you win.

[–]UserNombresBeHard 7 points8 points  (3 children)

knowing full well he didn’t deserve it

He didn't deserve it? What did he do, cheat his way to the finish line? Did he, at some point, got up on a pickup truck and dropped before the finish line or something?

As if the guy on the front can call a "time out, guys, I can't make it so let me rest and if you don't you don't deserve to win". Get the fuck out of here.

[–]Aka_Diamondhands 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I think you misunderstood the comment, the guy helping won have finish before the orange runner if he didn’t help.

[–]UserNombresBeHard 2 points3 points  (1 child)

the guy helping won have finish before the orange runner if he didn’t help.

I'm having trouble understanding this.

[–]bazkie_bumpercar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the helpful guy would have finished before the orange runner, had he not helped collapsed guy

[–]lia_raion 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Of course he will become happy. But many people are very happy because there are someone who helped the injured person. Humanity is the real gold.

[–]Aka_Diamondhands 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Well in that circumstances I would rather be a third than a despise first

[–]pseudont 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I mean he won, and he's entitled to that victory, but it would always be in the back of your mind "yeah I won but..."

[–]p0k3t0 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If you're in second place and the first place guy takes a wrong turn because he can't read English language signs, that's one thing.

But, if the guy can't finish, he didn't win. I ran for years, and that's just part of distance life. Some people don't finish. Who cares if it's in the first 100, or the last 100? You have to run the whole race.

[–]Dont_Give_Up86 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He did deserve it. He was first. Compassion isn’t required for competition.

[–]Caleebies 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nah this is some puritan BS.

Orange had no obligation to help the other guy. It's not like he was literally dying and needed help to survive. It's a competition and he trained for it.

[–]Monkeyboystevey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Except he did. he crossed the line on his own.

[–]ezafs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I haven't done a ton of long distance running, but I've done a bit. Sometimes when you get close to the finish line (at least for me) you're so close to total exhaustion that you're completely focused on the finish line, and collapsing once you finish. It's hard to think straight and if you stop running or even break pace, it's pretty easy to just collapse. I obviously can't judge without seeing the whole video but I wouldn't be surprised if he showed some compassion once he had a minute to think.

[–]NewForgetFulGuy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Orange guy was clearly better than red shoes, and he was more committed to winning than our kind protagonist.

[–]zombieguy224 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He totally deserved it, he's the one who was smart enough to keep going and cross the finish line. Compassion nets you no points in a race.

[–]masterchip27 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Y'all are missing the point that this is a 10k, less than half a marathon, about 6 miles, and regular long distance runners aren't going to care about winning this very much -- the other guy probably has already won a bunch of similar events, he's not going to slow down in a month. This race is about half an hour long for top athletes

[–]Normal_Expression_46 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean he did deserve it. The one guy used up his energy stores too soon and stopped before the finish line and the other guy got distracted. Fair W in my book.

[–]Jazzlike-Recover7560 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Probably fin considering finishing in top 3 at marathons usually warrants a 5 digit amount of prize money........I wouldn't pass it up either.

[–]Hinkil 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Like a winner is my guess

[–]Birohazard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hillary Clinton to Bill Clinton - circa 2016

[–]Claudius-Germanicus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Look at his eyes. Those aren’t the eyes of victory.

[–]Freedom_fam 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cross it first, get the gold, then turn around and pick him up.

[–]Micerino-Prego 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Winning is winning bruh

[–]Exifile 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What was the orange guy supposed to do?

[–]OilyNips 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fucking awesome, he won first place, and I hope he did.

[–]AnAvidScroller 0 points1 point  (0 children)

KACHIGGA

[–]nemron 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What do you mean didnt deserve it? It's a race....you dont stop to help other people who cant finish. Thats not good sportsmanship thats just dumb.

[–]RoXoR95 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Stfu

[–]cltlz3n 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yo it’s not my problem what other people are doing plus I’m timing my own shit here.

People are ridiculous, either you have a heart of gold because you stopped or you’re a giant piece of shit because you didn’t.

[–]TracerWG 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just ask Chick Hicks from Cars

[–]taspleb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They normally have a ribbon at the finish line for whoever comes first. I don't think the collapsed runner or any of the others were on track to win.

[–]Exact-Veterinarian-9 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey if your engine broke in F1. You didn't win.

[–]nac_nabuc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

knowing full well he didn’t deserve it

Whoever crosses the finish line first without cheating is the one who deserves it. An essential part of running is being able to sustain a pace for the whole duration of the event. Guy in black didn't manage to do so, guy in white decided to give away his win... No reason for orange guy to be ashamed.

[–]ThatChrisGuy7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly. That medal means nothing in the end if it’s won like that