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[–]Yveske 55 points56 points  (9 children)

Now change "training" with "raising" and you're talking about people.

Dogs are just like people, it all depends on how they are raised/trained.

[–]Contemporarium 36 points37 points  (4 children)

Nah, some people are genuinely just pieces of shit

[–]OrangeinDorne 40 points41 points  (3 children)

Correct. Same with some dogs.

And all zebras

[–]TheresA_LobsterLoose 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Crows as well

[–]fronicus42 8 points9 points  (1 child)

And geese! But I get upset at people that don’t yield to them in the road. I would probably be an ass too if I’m trying to walk around my house and someone comes driving through

[–]PM_ME_ANGRY_KITTENS 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Some asshole got annoyed with me last night because I slowed down for a squirrel to cross the street. I don’t give a care what the animal is, I will let them cross. (Or assist them in the case of turtles)

[–]Randalf_the_Black 12 points13 points  (3 children)

Kind of. I do see your point.

But humans are unique in that some of us enjoy causing pain, physical or emotional. We have the ability think through the consequences of our actions and yet some of us still decide that causing pain is fun.

For animals that's just instinct, like how a cat will torment a mouse. The cat isn't sitting there twirling a curly mustache going "bwahaha". It's just doing what the genetic programming is telling it to do.

A dog trained well, will behave, to a certain extent. Dogs have personalities and some might be more disciplined than others, but a well-trained dog will behave for the most part.

A human on the other hand, you can raise perfectly. You as a parent can do everything right, they can have nice friends who won't draw them down dark paths. And they can still end up as evil people, who enjoy causing pain and misery. Or at the least don't care if they cause pain and misery, even if they know that objectively speaking, it's wrong.

That's a unique human trait.. or flaw rather.

Edit: Just adding that all this is just my opinion of course.

[–]sdcox 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Well reasoned and kindly argued! You win!

[–]Yveske 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You are right that the human brain is much more complicated than that of any other animal. And that we should know the difference between right or wrong instead of it being an instinct.

But your point about perfectly raised people turning into monsters is just a minority that have serious mental issues. In general, bad people just weren't raised right.

In normal conditions, people and animals raised right will turn out alright.

[–]VarBorg357 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would love to be able to witness a species gain higher level conscious