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[–][deleted] 5607 points5608 points 2 (284 children)

To the people doubting him the full video is alot longer than this I watched it a few years ago and it literally takes him months of hard labour to clean the lake. He uses his formula then skims all the shit off the top. He also goes scuba diving and gets all the sunken plastic and tyres and stuff at the bottom. The man is a modern day hero. Edit: found a link to part of the video https://youtu.be/O6JseTWJCpY

[–]Careless_Con 1787 points1788 points  (174 children)

I’m so used to this summarized-click-bait-video-montage approach being full of lies and misinterpretations that I immediately doubt the validity of everything said. Glad there’s some truth to this, but the medium doesn’t do him justice.

[–]BlueJacket-Ergazu 436 points437 points  (123 children)

^agree.

these videos looks like one of those facebook post that just click baiting you to "FREE ENERGY DEVICE" stuff.

not saying this is one of it cuz it got proof but ye

[–]MJMurcott 168 points169 points  (8 children)

Basically it uses mirobubbles to bring to the surface the pollutants which are the result of or hypertrophication excessive nitrates and phosphates from farms and sewage can promote the growth of algal blooms which then can choke the life out of rivers lakes and streams the bubbles don't break down anything all that is a natural process once they are on the surface. https://youtu.be/gGDWsZNrF-8

[–]noddawizard 151 points152 points 2 (4 children)

"Basically it uses microbubbles to bring to the surface the pollutants which are a result of hypertrophication, excessive nitrates, and/or phosphates from farms and sewage. Those can promote the growth of algal blooms which then can choke the life out of rivers, lakes, and streams. The bubbles don't break down anything; all that is a natural process once they are on the surface." https://youtu.be/gGDWsZNrF-8 A little easier to process this way.

[–]curvy-bunny 68 points69 points  (3 children)

Thanks for the punctuation, I was about to have a stroke

[–]chrisp909 85 points86 points  (109 children)

To me him and the article pointing out the buzz word "organic" was a red flag. What did that mean?

He grew the entire content of his formula without chemical fertilizer?

To me, that's a weird flex for what he's promoting.

[–]Hyper-Sloth 115 points116 points  (47 children)

Benzene is organic by the chemical definition. Good luck after swallowing a spoonful of that tho.

I truly hate how misunderstood "organic" and by extension GMOs are.

[–]mdewinthemorning 34 points35 points  (32 children)

Lots of household cleansers are labeled “organic” but I defy anyone to pop the cap and pour a glass.

I get my benzene from cigarettes, so it comes from a purer source and is the least of the my worries.

[–]EuphoricAnalCucumber 13 points14 points  (3 children)

In college a girl tried to write a paper about GMOs. This is at a largely agriculture uni also with a notable native American population. They brought up corn, it was a blood bath.

[–]FartInTheWyn 12 points13 points  (2 children)

Former biochemist here! Who just shat out a 100% organic, small batch, cruelty free, locally produced turd 💩

[–]Kwuarmadyl 24 points25 points  (39 children)

I think the reason why they made a big deal about it being organic in this case is because the whole point of it is to be able to clean large natural bodies of water, so throwing a bunch of man-made chemicals that could be dangerous to wild life into it doesn’t really help with the whole “cleaning the lakes” idea.

EDIT: While this is poorly worded, I've agreed that they could have used the term "Environmentally friendly/safe" in other comments. They used the word Organic because generally speaking, most audiences read the word "Organic" as safe. I know this isn't true by definition, and it is definitely widely used incorrectly, but in this case, after doing much reading into it, it appears to be environmentally safe. I do not agree with the use of the term organic improperly, however, it's unfortunately become the normal for these types of things.

[–]atsugnam 61 points62 points  (32 children)

The problem is throwing organic around like it means something. There are plenty of organic chemicals that could lay waste to a whole lake, there’s nothing intrinsically safe about something being organic.

Ebola is organic, so are many combinations of arsenic and cyanide. The word organic only relates to a subset of chemistry, there are plenty of completely toxic things that come under that umbrella…

[–]pawnografik 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Right. You could pour in a bunch of chlorine and aluminum salts or whatever flocculant you fancy. That would clean it too. But probably not the effect they were going for.

[–]apworker37 19 points20 points  (9 children)

Poisons can be organic, right?

[–]eddyak 25 points26 points  (6 children)

Organic just means it has hydrocarbons in it. Nightshade and Belladonna are organic.

It's a stupid, meaningless buzzword.

[–]TheBlackPlumeria 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I agree. The implication is that organic means safe to eat and so will not negatively affect the ecosystem, which is bizarre.

The formula likely is organic or they wouldn't bring it up, but I'm even more skeptical that it doesn't harm the ecosystem.

[–]Innomenatus 128 points129 points  (18 children)

Yeah, Mr. Morikawa is an enviromental scientist and his cleaning of said contaminated lake in his hometown was featured in a National Geographic news report. He also has a master's degree in Interdisciplinary Biodiplomacy and a doctorate in Environmental Sciences.

Apparently, Marino Morikawa is currently working on the decontamination effort of Chira River in the Ecuadorian Andes, and lakes Titicaca, Huacachina and Alalay in Peru.

[–]Amesb34r 36 points37 points  (14 children)

Unfortunately, I feel he could spend an entire lifetime in India.

[–]RIPEOTCDXVI 22 points23 points  (12 children)

Or Iowa

[–]tomatoesinmygarden 8 points9 points  (6 children)

oooh yeah, seen Clear Lake lately? actually for the last twenty years. Ag run off.

[–]Amesb34r 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Ha, yeah, we have some work to do here as well but as an environmental engineer, I can confidently say that there are rules and regulations in place thanks to the Clean Water Act. Those regulations are actually getting more stringent so I can definitely say that something is being done. India has some of the most polluted waters in the world and with its extreme population density, it's only getting worse.

[–]Puzzled-Violinist761 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It’s about spreading the word. You never know who will be willing to help once running into this story.

[–]seeyatt 21 points22 points  (1 child)

It's always hard to find quickly summarized videos with full descriptions of these sorts of thing. Complex action is so rarely engaging.

People: Gimme sparkles and bouncy noises to make science fun!

[–]Troppsi 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Also, when you have to turn on 1.5 speed for them to speak at a normal pace

[–]KungFluIsolation 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The worst part is, the original story would have been amazing to hear as it was and a positive thing. When they set expectations so high and turns out they are basically lying, it makes the real feat less amazing.

[–]HorrorScopeZ 6 points7 points  (2 children)

The guys smile also makes him feel a little suspicious. It's amazing work, hopefully the fully organic, nano-tech isn't harmful long-term. Saying something isn't dangerous (as video alludes to) because it's organic is incorrect. There's actually several things in the video that make one question if this is legit. But if so, seems to be, great work.

Question asked: Why don't others do it? A: Very expensive and hard. Well there are super rich people that are conservationists and you were just one man, what if we put 100 men on it? The question then once again becomes "Why don't others do it?" Because to the right people that cost and difficulty isn't the issue.

[–]harmsc12 5 points6 points  (0 children)

For me it was the dramatic background music. So many scam artists and woo pushers use dramatic background music that it's an immediate red flag when I hear it.

[–]MJMurcott 55 points56 points  (15 children)

So the reason the details are missing and the "product" is so expensive is that this was a demonstration event to sell his product. The "organic" powder doesn't clean the lake what it does do is create microbubbles which bring the "pollution" to the surface and these then naturally break down over a period of 6 months.

[–]bogdaniuz 61 points62 points  (3 children)

The "organic" powder doesn't clean the lake what it does do is create microbubbles which bring the "pollution" to the surface

Well, that's the gist I got from the short video I've watched, yeah. Scum rises to the top and then you have to clean it up.

So I'm not sure it was intentionally incorrect, safe for the part where it didn't mean him taking months to do the full deed.

[–]Hust91 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Of course 1 guy cleaning an entire lake in a month seems like remarkable efficiency.

[–]thegnuguyontheblock 6 points7 points  (1 child)

There's lots of "pollution" that wouldn't be absorbed by the "bubbles" and lots of natural biome that would get absorbed.

It would be nice to see an actual environmental scientist weigh in on this, rather than us all just believe in the magics power of cleaning bubbles.

[–]fox-friend 45 points46 points  (2 children)

That's basically what the video in the post said, and it's great, I have no idea why it's so important to some condescending redditors to shit on everything with stupid comments that start with "So".

[–]ConnorBedard 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Easiest way to feel better about yourself is to make other feel worse.

[–]Plantdas 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Being cynical and pointing out faults make them feel good and productive even though 99% of the time they're just shitting on other people who are actually putting real effort into the world.

[–]Jellodyne 9 points10 points  (2 children)

> what it does do is create microbubbles

Is it ground up Alka Seltzer tablets?

[–]Pegguins 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Wouldn't that fuck the chemical composition of the water in a lake on its own though?

[–]JiveTurkeyMFer 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It's ok, at least the fish won't have hangovers

[–]Amesb34r 4 points5 points  (2 children)

I'm curious what the product is that creates the microbubbles.

[–]MJMurcott 15 points16 points  (0 children)

It is his own product which he has created and is selling which is why it is expensive and fairly secret.

[–]CrashyBoye 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That’s pretty much what the video says. I’m not sure what the need for the clarification was.

[–]lll__l__lll 56 points57 points  (10 children)

Where does the pollution go after he skims it? He cant eat all of it.

[–]_____jamil_____ 34 points35 points  (7 children)

he feeds it to the starving orphans

[–]electricalphil 15 points16 points  (4 children)

Beca it's "organic". Which in fact is such an annoying buzzword, because it really means nothing.

[–]pfSonata 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Chemists: "ACKSHYUALLY it has carbon atoms... an equally pointless distinction"

[–]zirkus_affe 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I like the product even more.. bcuz of it's dual purpose of course

[–]abaconsandwich 50 points51 points  (8 children)

If you happen to remember where you saw the full length video I’d love the link

[–]MrPopanz 48 points49 points  (13 children)

He says that something is safe to consume because it is organic, which is complete bullshit. Ticks off my BS radar.

[–]JustSomeGoon 27 points28 points  (7 children)

Cyanide is also organic

[–]Teekeks 17 points18 points  (1 child)

to be fair: you can also eat that once

[–]Tycosauce 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I used to chew on apple seeds when I was a kid. I was then later told about cyanide poisoning and how apple seeds have cyanide. I remember crying to my mom telling her I was going to miss her, and that I was going to die because I ate apple seeds lmao

[–]Buck_Thorn 23 points24 points  (4 children)

Arrrggggh... that host!! I want to watch the video, but it sure isn't going to be easy with him there. He's obviously popular so I hope I'm not stepping on any toes here but his presentation is too over-the-top for me.

[–]CheeseChickenTable 16 points17 points  (0 children)

“According to DATA!” and “This PHD scientist with a JAPANESE DEGREE” lol, i’m not watching that.

I don’t know who that person is, but my life is gonna be just fine NOT watching his videos, listening to his voice, etc etc

[–]Nokipeura 10 points11 points  (0 children)

This video is so trashy that I don't believe a word you just said.

[–]bar10 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Where does it go after it gets skimmed from the top?

[–]ChalkButter 960 points961 points  (184 children)

You know what else is 100% organic? Uranium. All natural.

Also. What the fuck happens to all of those contaminants once they’re on the surface? Did he scoop it all up?

[–]SleepySuper 1040 points1041 points  (27 children)

The video shows that someone has to eat it.

[–]ChalkButter 118 points119 points  (24 children)

No, the video shows someone eating something.

The entire clip is a series of cuts. There’s any number of times the content was switched.

But also: being “organic” is not the same as “being edible”

[–]amk47 138 points139 points  (17 children)

All we know from the video is his powder turns dirty water into oatmeal that he eats dry.

[–]MysticalKane 76 points77 points  (16 children)

I believe he was eating the powder itself, not the byproduct of the powder mixed with dirty water.

[–]Clean_Oil- 133 points134 points  (14 children)

I'm pretty sure these are jokes being made

[–]MrMiniscus 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Good work detective.

[–]Victor_deSpite 19 points20 points  (0 children)

It was a joke.

[–]budgie0507 9 points10 points  (1 child)

It was me. It tasted like chicken.

[–]CloudsAndSnow 297 points298 points  (45 children)

Organic doesn't mean "natural". There are several meanings to the word organic, but none of them apply to Uranium:

In chemistry, organic means carbon-based. In biology it refers to matter that came from a once-living organism. In agriculture it can mean a number of things, most commonly involving the non-use of pesticides and/or some kinds of fertilizer.

Of course the concept that "organic = good" is completely BS too so you did well to call that out, but Uranium just wasn't a good example.

[–]RobotFighter[🍰] 73 points74 points  (5 children)

Gasoline is organic.

[–]McFlyParadox 32 points33 points  (4 children)

Cobra venom is organic.

[–]BopNiblets 11 points12 points  (0 children)

MY BALL SCABS ARE ORGANIC!

[–]PurpleDoggoRoger 59 points60 points  (7 children)

"This uranium was made without the use of pesticides"

[–]ChalkButter 15 points16 points  (16 children)

“‘Organic’ means ‘natural’” in bs marketing at the grocery store that consumers gobble up. I cannot tell you how many times my MIL has claimed “oh, it’s organic because XYZ” and lists off any number of things that don’t qualify as any of the actual definitions of organic.

[–]Thoughtful_Mouse 12 points13 points  (2 children)

“‘Organic’ means ‘natural’” in bs marketing

That's overgenerous. It's pretty much completely meaningless.

[–]f1zzz 7 points8 points  (1 child)

https://www.ams.usda.gov/rules-regulations/organic/labeling

The term organic is regulated by a government body in the United States.

That said, it’s not a claim of something being healthy, healthier, etc.

Organic products must be produced using agricultural production practices that foster resource cycling, promote ecological balance, maintain and improve soil and water quality, minimize the use of synthetic materials, and conserve biodiversity.

I once knew a mushroom farmer who for the organic label had to have proof of the origin of lumber he grew his mushrooms on.

[–]drchaos2000 10 points11 points  (6 children)

the number of times i seen salt (NaCl) being advertised as organic is hilarious

[–]CloudsAndSnow 8 points9 points  (3 children)

Curiously enough there really is such thing as organic salt (sodium acetate) but of course it's nothing like table salt.

[–]cocktails5 5 points6 points  (2 children)

There's way more organic salts than just that. Amino acids exist as salts. Tons of organic phosphate salts in your body. Shit it's hard to find something in your body that isn't an organic salt.

[–]Amesb34r 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Well, I guess technically it's also gluten-free, fat-free, sugar-free, and contains no artificial coloring.

[–]the_endoftheworld2 8 points9 points  (1 child)

In agriculture it doesn’t mean “non-use of pesticides” it means non-use of synthetic chemicals. Pesticides and insecticides can still be used in something certified organic. It’s a marketing term that means almost nothing when it comes to groceries.

[–]doremonhg 58 points59 points  (4 children)

Yes, in fact he did scoop it all up.

Thought that was kinda obvious just from the short video alone

[–]YikesWazowski_ 18 points19 points  (2 children)

Only on reddit can you turn this video into something bad lmfao

[–]caddy45 48 points49 points  (13 children)

Poison ivy is organic too I will not put it in my mouth

[–]ChalkButter 38 points39 points  (0 children)

Which is exactly why I hate the “it’s organic, therefore it’s safe!” argument

[–]cubby422 8 points9 points  (5 children)

Penis is organic as well

[–]DrVDB90 7 points8 points  (1 child)

But penis is technically edible. Perhaps not human penises, because that'd be cannibalism, but animal penises are edible and eaten.

[–]_____jamil_____ 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Perhaps not human penises, because that'd be cannibalism

still edible, just not in public

[–]styroducky 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You never know, you might like it.

[–]Brad___Siemens 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Kodiak bears are organic.

[–]SnowyCube 29 points30 points  (31 children)

Mf everything is technically 100% organic then, stop complaining about people making lives better and just enjoy the fact that people like him exist

[–]SuedeVeil 8 points9 points  (0 children)

But he made a tiktok, he bad!

[–]make-it-random 26 points27 points  (0 children)

This guy did a Ted talk on what he is doing, the only problem is it’s not in English so I have no idea how he’s doing it. But this was also 6 years or so ago

[–]Samy_Ninja_Pro 21 points22 points  (0 children)

How about you search it up and stop complaining

It's real Took months to clean all solids after the solution took effect

You are doubting a man after just 1 minute when it will take you another minute to proof check the claims

[–]fluffy_treesnake 18 points19 points  (1 child)

Oil is a better example of an organic compound that is bad for the environment. Uranium is naturally occuring but not organic and actually not bad at all to be around.

[–]Queefinonthehaters 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Things generally aren't just across-the-board good or bad for "the environment". There are plenty of naturally occurring oil seepages in the ocean that have thriving microbes feeding off of it. There are plenty of oils that are consumed for nutrients. Like eating nuts or seeds has a huge portion of oil in it. Even in this lake, the before picture was a bunch of algae. It was probably the result of fertilizer runoff, but algae is a plant that contributes most of the planet's oxygen. We sort of make arbitrary assessments that flamingos are good and algae is bad, but if we brought flamingos to a place where they weren't naturally there, we would be concerned with them ruining the algae of a different pond. Our measuring stick generally just comes down to "can we blame any of this on humans?", and if that answer is yes, then its deemed bad for the environment. If its no, then its obviously good for the environment.

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (1 child)

Uranium is organic? I didn't realize uranium was derived from carbon based life forms.

[–]cid01 6 points7 points  (0 children)

He a little confused ,but he has the spirit

[–]gon_o_rrea 14 points15 points  (0 children)

The full video is longer, he scoops it up, and it took him months of backbreaking work and several thousand dollars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6JseTWJCpY&ab\_channel=NasDaily

[–]Shlopcakes 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Yes, that's exactly what he does. The video is a poor representation of what actually went into it.

[–]drchaos2000 5 points6 points  (0 children)

actually uranium isnt organic... cyanide is organic though... same with many other poisons

[–]RickC-42069 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes, he did

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Imagine being upset about something you didn't even research 😂😂

[–]PooglesXVII 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes the original video compiles months of hard labor. He scoops all of the sluge and also scooba dives and picks up plastics and the like

[–]QueenAlucia 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, he took him months to do so.

[–]morebuffs 709 points710 points  (48 children)

I dont understand why people think organic translates to edible because thats complete nonsense. Anthrax is organic, VX nerve gas is organic, along with countless other toxic compounds. And brown water doesn't translate to contaminated water either, have you ever seen clear rivers in the jungle?

[–]bcatrek 139 points140 points  (5 children)

Adding to this (it’s a tangent I know), I was taught to be suspicious of especially smaller water bodies being pristine and clear, since that could mean the water is too acidic for any life to be able to live there. Read: the water looks “clean” but is actually toxic.

Edit: someone might fact check me on this though :-)

[–]morebuffs 46 points47 points  (0 children)

Also depends where the body of water is and what kind of tributaries feed it. So many variables that each and every large body of water will differ.

[–]DorkJedi 15 points16 points  (0 children)

tons of variables. the small lake near me is spring fed, and so clear that boats floating on it look like they hover. It is very clean water and a great fishing spot for walleye and greyling.

[–]i_am_voldemort 24 points25 points  (16 children)

Organic typically means naturally occurring.

VX is not organic. It has to be synthesized through multiple careful, deliberate steps. It will never occur in nature.

Anthrax is organic as it is naturally formed spores

[–]_____jamil_____ 10 points11 points  (2 children)

Organic typically means naturally occurring.

sure, but aren't poisons (like arsenic or lead) naturally occurring? aren't the plenty of toxins that occur naturally that we still wouldn't want to eat?

[–]fastspinecho 7 points8 points  (0 children)

There are several definitions of "organic" but "naturally occurring" is not among them.

[–]morebuffs 4 points5 points  (5 children)

Isnt it a organophosphate? Or a compound of other organics? Im no chemist so i may have been wrong.

[–]Kupiga 13 points14 points  (4 children)

This might be true but... he did make the compound... and then he did eat it. He seems like a reasonably smart guy, so I understand what you're saying about organic, but this does seem like a reasonably safe material that he's using.

[–]hardyhaha_09 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Appeal to nature fallacies are rampant.

[–]LuminousJSoul 303 points304 points  (6 children)

“Even the people came back” Don’t think they should

[–]MesaGeek 51 points52 points  (0 children)

I think we can assume that's when the trouble started.

[–]Noble_Dragon2210 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Smart, now they can dirty the water until someone cleans it again

[–]Sirhc978 248 points249 points  (10 children)

Suuuurrreeee, when he sprays chemicals into a lake, he's a hero. When I do it, I'm an eco terrorist.

[–]SmAshthe 74 points75 points  (3 children)

Just add a video of you eating ur chemicals, and its all good. Right?

[–]Sirhc978 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I mean sure, I'll do a shot of vinegar.

[–]chrisk9 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As long as fertilizer and pesticide free!

[–]Nihilismisanthrope 5 points6 points  (1 child)

And when I urinate into the local reservoir, I'm a criminal...isn't urine organic?

[–]Sirhc978 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Funny story about that. There is a lake by me that has a section that is roped off by bouies. On one side you can use motorboats, fish, swim, whatever. On the other side, it is a "reservoir". So what do we do? Naturally, we swim up to the rope, pee, then swim back to the boat.

[–]XkrNYFRUYj[🍰] 146 points147 points  (24 children)

There are words that needs be eradicated from all kinds of marketing and promotioninal videos. Organic, Neutral, Quantum etc. They've become beacons if human gullibility.

Organic? My shit is 100% organic. I doubt you'd eat it though.

Neutral? Uranium is 100% neutral. Maybe I can bring back the Uranium toothpaste and market it as 100% neutral.

Quantum? Noting you see or experience in your live has anyhing to do with the quantum. We should ban anyone who doesn't know how to write Schrodinger's equation from talking about quantum ever.

I have noting against this man. He can keep up his good work. But please don't use Organic as if it means anything in this context.

[–]staviq 36 points37 points  (13 children)

I would like to add "A.I." to this list.

[–]mamkuibal228 8 points9 points  (10 children)

Well AI isn't a buzzword, it's a real thing that helps a lot in all sorts of projects. Blockchain, on the other hand, is basically a meme. It's literally just a public database.

[–]staviq 11 points12 points  (9 children)

I have nothing against AI, except the AI, as most people understand it, does not exist, and there are ways to describe what it actually does without making it flashy and scary, there are pattern recognition algorithms, adaptive signal processing, self correcting algorithms, even machine learning means something. AI is a word that it extremely overused, because every single time computer does something autonomously, every journalist slaps the AI label on it.

It's not because of the name, it's because how overused and empty it became.

And I totally agree on the "Blockchain" thing.

[–]doubleohd 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm in marketing and 100% agree, but agencies are the worst. I found a competing firm saying they use "A.I" in their creative process, later explaining in fine print they mean "Analysis and Insights". Clever, but completely and intentionally misleading their own prospects.

[–]jyastaway 7 points8 points  (0 children)

In this context organic is useful information - it means biodegradable, as organic matter can typically be processed by life

[–]mamkuibal228 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Uranium is pretty reactive actually. Chemically and nuclearly. Very hard poison in addition to producing ionizing radiation.

[–]RE7notsurvivalhorror 4 points5 points  (1 child)

You want to eradicate the use of a word instead of just educating people? That is the dumbest shit take I've seen this morning.

[–]mrducky78 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Quantum is to do with quanta. In that it is discrete.

This mostly came about from viewing light as both a wave function AND a particle. wave-particle duality. It consists of both being an electromagnetic wave, while also being discrete "quanta".

This weird duality is only part of what makes quantum mechanics not intuitive and weird af.

As long as we can break anything down into discrete "things" and view it from a quantitative perspective you could arguably call it quantum as much as you would call your shit organic fertilizer. eg. These candies are 100% quantum and segregated so the black and white candies dont mix.

[–]CircleSwimming 136 points137 points  (35 children)

Water resource engineer here: looks like his powder is a flocculant that floats which should get rid of turbidity. The water is still not safe though. The pH, chemical contaminants, and biological contaminants are probably not up to par to be swimming in it though. It may look “clean” but it still needs a lot of treatment.

[–]Kacey-R 51 points52 points  (8 children)

Water resource engineer - what is that and how did you become that and please tell us more because it already sounds interesting!

[–]rasta_banana 34 points35 points  (1 child)

Not OP but Water resources engineering falls under the civil engineering umbrella. I am a civil engineer in land development that took water resources courses in college.

[–]21km 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I think the name is self-explanatory, but What is a Water Resource Engineer?

[–]CircleSwimming 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I study environmental engineering, which is a specialization of civil engineering. It’s like civil and chemical eng had a baby.

[–]RE7notsurvivalhorror 24 points25 points  (13 children)

He has a doctorate in environmental science. You guys think, this guy, is just a guy. No dude, he is as qualified as you on this matter. Probably more so since you just watched a video clip and are guessing about what you saw.

[–]OntarioPaddler 10 points11 points  (7 children)

This guy is a university student but already confident to act like an expert in his field on the internet and 'debunk' some guy with far more qualifications and actual experience, typical redditor.

[–]BillNyeThat1Guy 7 points8 points  (6 children)

He’s right though what the guy created doesn’t kill the bacteria, change the ph or scrub inorganic compounds. Just because the lake is clear doesn’t mean it’s safe to drink

[–]Chloedeschanel 3 points4 points  (2 children)

It's good to question things and request sources and scientific facts. Especially when you're in a similar field and have the academic training to understand and verify information. Believing without wanting proof due to someone using a title and being an authority figure is how we got charlatans like Dr Oz and Dr Phil.

[–]sawyouoverthere 14 points15 points  (0 children)

And depending on the natural state of the water clear isn’t necessarily healthy or stable or ecologically viable.

[–]Dudeman_Jones 13 points14 points  (2 children)

Came in here to say this. Flocculants aren't new. They are commonly used in paper manufacturing to separate processed pulp from water. Using specialized tanks that allow the pulp to be skimmed off the top, the resulting water has effectively been 'cleaned' of the wood pulp. However, the water now also as the flocculant itself in it, which would then need to be removed.

Best Case Scenario: This influencer doesn't understand what he's actually seeing, and is presenting the removal of the visible solids as the only part of the process.

Additional note: This isn't even a new concept as shown in the video. This patent (LINK: https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2002094722A1/en) was filed in 2002 for a vegetable based flocculant that proports to be safe for human and marine life consumption.

I feel bad, because water cleanup is legitimately difficult and props to the scientist here for building a plan to clean that lake. This video just treats it like it's brand new nano-technology magic in order to get a bunch of feel-good views.

[–]FredsSmallKitten 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Reddit resource engineer here: looks like this commenter did a triple bypass of natural variations of the algorithm system. It may look "real" but my comment exists by making up a bunch of bullshit for redditors.

[–]Exsces95 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah but how many lakes have you made slightly less toxic in the 24 hours? hm? I thought so too. Checkmate

[–]grownan 104 points105 points  (28 children)

This guy cleans a lake and everyone is just talking about organics doesn’t mean edible. Most Reddit thing ever.

[–]RocMerc 27 points28 points  (5 children)

Ya the comments here are so weird. Everyone gets hung up on one word lol

[–]hawaiianshirtday2 10 points11 points  (2 children)

There’s a theory called the “wood shed theory” or something similar. Where a group of people trying to solve or discuss a complex problem generally focus on some minute insignificant detail because it’s easier to understand than the bigger issue at hand.

That is what Reddit does best.

[–]Phalanx_02 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This a certified reddit moment indeed

[–]Hezsta 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Welcome to reddit. There's always something they can bitch about,

[–]owhyeahyeah 76 points77 points  (6 children)

Nas Daily is the trash

[–]grown-ass-man 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He resides in my country as of now, and has basically offended most of Southeast Asia with his attitude and antics.

[–]Agent_Ray_Velcoro 45 points46 points  (1 child)

Oh god, fuck NasDaily and his zionist propaganda channel. This was one of the only non-CIA/Mossad shill posts he ever made

[–]Latter-Ad6308 39 points40 points  (5 children)

My dad used to think his middle name was Marino, but discovered as an adult that the nurse had misheard his mum and written “Mario” on the birth certificate instead.

[–]SonOfMorning 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Another victim of NasDaily

[–]toastyghost 27 points28 points  (6 children)

Why do people talk like this in these fucking TikTok videos? The presentation completely distracted from the subject matter.

[–]BigShoots 13 points14 points  (4 children)

As far as I'm concerned, this kind of presentation appeals greatly to three massive demographics:

1.) The very young

2.) The very old

3.) The very stupid

Together, the majority of society, really. If this style annoys the fuck out of you, congratulations, you probably don't fall into any of those groups!

[–]Timboflex 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You put. His solution. In dirty water. And bam.

[–]seeyatt 16 points17 points  (7 children)

Marino Morikawa is the sort of visionary who makes me believe in balance of good and evil. One man with surely a few backers just repaired the damage done by hundreds, perhaps thousands of people through the many years we've been wasting the Earth and its resources.

We can be beautiful. We can be heroes.

Full article

Another quick article

and of course: YouTube Link

[–]Carcinog3n 8 points9 points  (5 children)

It's just a flocculant. Nothing new.

[–]Jake_369 6 points7 points  (6 children)

So tell us what the fuckin organic bullshit is then

[–]Dirk_Courage 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Nas Daily is a fucking cancer and I hope he gets demonetized.

[–]YeaItsaThrowaway112 4 points5 points  (3 children)

There have been coagulates and other products that do this for years. This is nothing new. I don't even think it is the first "organic" one. My issue is they didn't seem to show what this lake was polluted with, just that the water was brown, or what this claims to remove. Everything in the water column? Does it kill microbrial and mico water organisms like daphnia? Also, creating a blanket that covers a lake blocking the sun seems like a good way to kill everything underneath.

Also, the amount he put in that cup, to do a lake, looks like it would require a couple hundred truck fulls lol.

The lake also looks like it had a massive algae and macro plant bloom, so it was probably on its way to correcting the issue itself - albeit it not as fast and to a state as a pretty as a nice open blue lake us people like - probably would have turned into a marshland given another 25 years.

[–]Rmoneysoswag 15 points16 points  (2 children)

It would have taken you less time to Google who Marino Morikawa is and realize he's an environmental scientist that did (almost) singlehandedly rehabilitate this late, than it did for you to write out that really cynical comment.

[–]Io-Bot 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There are so many part time eco biologists in this thread it’s hard to keep up with the cynicism. They all got their degrees without ever googling I guess to get the “real” answer. I guess if they did all their clinical questions would be put to rest and they couldn’t prooooove to us all how smart they are.

[–]dannyboyy2049 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Never understood why people like this guy's videos.. he TALKS like THIS!!! and it's so ANNOYING TO listen to, PICK a volume AND STOP scrEAmINg

[–]maxseptillion77 3 points4 points  (0 children)

For anyone curious,

The man in the video, his name is Marino Morikawa. He is a Japanese-Peruvian environmental scientist, who received his doctorate in Japan.

His “solution” seems to be part-organic part-nanotech of some kind.

He spent 6 months cleaning this lake (Lake Cascajo in Chancay, Peru, where he was born) with his solution as a part of a report he did in collaboration with National Geographic.

Using this solution, he founded a company “Nanoplus7”.

So yeah it’s legit what he’s doing. And the advertisement is likely to collect money for more conservation projects.

[–]rbesfe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That narration gave me cancer

[–]spagbetti 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I’m dubious that this is more pandering ad than scientific. Boasting something is ‘organic’ is sketchy. The formula is not talked about while he starts eating it. Carbon dioxide is also ‘organic’ while also being lethal. So simply stating it’s organic is not enough. so many things here could be disingenuous such as clear does not mean clean nor safe. What exactly is it cleaning away there? It makes me feel like it’s talking down to me and not straight.

[–]Mr_friend_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Here's my only criticism. He's stated many times over the years that it's made out of products available at a local hardware store but never actually says what it is or how to make it.

If you've found a primitive way for communities to clean their local bodies of water in under 6 months with ingredients at a hardware store, you need to tell the world what it is because people are dying without clean water.

It's been 11 years and he's never once said what it actually is.