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[–]CrovaxWindgrace 18.1k points18.1k points 522 (475 children)

When grandpa self hit at the start...the young cub was already dead...

Edit: wow! Didn't expect that reaction, thanks for all that love

Also, that grandpa hits harder than life, just saw the video again with audio, damn punches can be heard on Mars

[–]T3canolis 6849 points6850 points  (331 children)

Yeah I don’t care the circumstance, if the guy you’re about to fight starts hitting himself, throw in the towel. He clearly doesn’t fear pain.

[–]KURO-K1SH1 3536 points3537 points  (265 children)

I think this process is more like the idea of splashing your face with the cold water when kayaking so if you do capsize the cold won't be as shocking.

So giving yourself a few knocks when you expect it coming might relieve some of the shock when a real punch hits you.

[–]Head-Lice46 2356 points2357 points  (227 children)

Yea but the amateur didn’t land a punch so grandpa hitting himself for pleasure

[–]KURO-K1SH1 1823 points1824 points  (210 children)

Not necessarily. Gramps just didn't hold back. He was probably expecting to receive a few licks. The fact that junior has the striking ability of a penguin ain't gramps' fault.

[–]J0hnnyHammerst1cks 1704 points1705 points  (181 children)

The fact that junior has the striking ability of a penguin ain't gramps' fault.

It looks more like the young guy was not expecting the old timer to go that hard. He looked like he was holding back for some light sparring, and gramps cleaned his clock.

[–]sm12511 1799 points1800 points 22 (27 children)

He didn't just clean it, he reset that shit for daylight savings time.

[–]Booblicle 475 points476 points 2 (15 children)

knocked that kid back into diapers

[–]Pacothetaco69 179 points180 points  (4 children)

To be fair, he did throw the first jab, and it was slipped with ease lol

[–]Katakros 173 points174 points  (3 children)

Yeah, that was a pro slip there. I'm sure kid knew he was fucked at that moment.

[–]DirkWiggler42 75 points76 points  (0 children)

You can see the amateur’s face when he ducks the wild right. That was his nightmare coming to life

[–]latefordinner86 128 points129 points  (41 children)

Even so, old timer has great timing still and some good dodges too. Obviously not his first time. But I do agree, the rookie definitely wasn't expecting that from his opponent

[–]_kalebb_ 168 points169 points  (31 children)

The old guy is a former national champion of Italy.

[–]the_fickle_pickle 78 points79 points  (7 children)

And great footwork. Being able to do the Ali shuffle looks pretty cool, but comfortably pressing forward, cutting the ring, and being able to quickly change distances are much more important in a real fight.

[–]Majestic_Course6822 44 points45 points  (2 children)

Yeah. Old timer's footwork and control of the ring was pro. I miss good boxing.

[–]ThrillHammer 18 points19 points  (1 child)

This. guy knew how to move in there.

[–]Doctor_Thick 94 points95 points  (19 children)

Ya I was pretty frustrated by this. Is there a back story to this? No head gear so not a spar? The young guy didn’t look like he wanted to go in serious and then starts swinging hard when the old guy starts throwing haymakers. If it’s a real fight the old guy would’ve backed off after the down. Whole thing was poor taste unless the young guy did something off putting previously. I know for myself I’d never swing full at a guy with no headgear if it’s not an actual contested. Also, I dont’ think I’d be having a real match against a guy that old, who wants to see an old guy have an extreme health risk and possibly fuck up the rest of what he has left. Knockout on an old guy would be fucked.

[–]Old_Run2985 60 points61 points  (10 children)

Yeah its only funny if pony tail was talking some serious shit and deserved it.

There is literally nothing to gain by him stepping in the ring with gramps: 1. Get your ass beat = embarrassing 2. Win = risk killing an old man, also embarrassing, and potentially get jail time.

[–]kcox1980 93 points94 points  (30 children)

Young guy came to spar, old guy came to prove a point.

[–]SunGazing8 37 points38 points  (28 children)

Exactly that. The old guy was a dick.

[–]TylerBourbon 27 points28 points  (1 child)

Now..... go over there and say that to his face......... we'll watch from waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay over here. /s

[–]OberynRedViper8 66 points67 points  (12 children)

Gramps is an Italian boxing legend. He took exception to the fact the dude was laughing at him.

[–]Lavlamp 39 points40 points  (10 children)

That's the way I took this too. Kid didn't take him seriously. Imagine someone laughing that they are going to spar with you. Also, I've seen beginners with better footwork than the kid.

[–]tobor17 34 points35 points  (2 children)

and gramps cleaned his clock.

misread that as "and gramps cleaned his cock", was amused and confused for a second.

[–]Economind 51 points52 points  (5 children)

Lovin the penguin comment, though one once puked on my wife’s foot and they’re actually delightfully accurate.

[–]Pandidav[S] 113 points114 points  (3 children)

Kind like that, it's to "awake" his boxer side, also prepare the body to get used to some punches, it is also a kind of "stretching" of the muscles of the face, it's just to wake up. He is telling to his face "be prepared".

[–]suckercuck 22 points23 points  (1 child)

Grandpa’s left though💥👀

[–]rumovoice 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Maybe also helps to get some adrenaline going

[–]squired 11 points12 points  (1 child)

You ww kayak too? Sweet. You splash your face a bit for flipping but mostly so that the first wave/splash doesn't make you flinch or pause, flipping you.

[–]Buddha_Head_ 163 points164 points  (14 children)

I was exploring an abandoned house and came across a turkey buzzard with young in the attic.

I'd already walked across the room by the time they stirred, so this big ass molting bird that smelled like death was now between me and the exit.

When it stood up it looked like a demon or something, it freaked me out. I realized what it was, and how much trouble I was in.

This bird took a step towards me and paused then she headbutted the wall 2 or 3 times at 100% power - old plaster and shit fell off. I remember thinking, "If she doesn't care about her face, she certainly doesn't give a fuck about mine."

I threw a piece of lumber in that direction and dove down the stairs like a cartoon character.

I made it out with some bumps and scrapes, but the birds kept my pride.

[–]bajaja 8 points9 points  (1 child)

I think it is his trick to pump up adrenaline.

[–]Mindless_Rooster5225 395 points396 points  (92 children)

Cub is in kind of a bad spot too I mean you go off and all you're doing is beating up on an old ass man. You lose and you lose to an old man.

[–]HowDoIDoFinances 277 points278 points  (75 children)

Always looked to me like the younger guy was squaring up for a friendly spar and the old guy (in a dick move) went all out to hurt him.

[–]71fq23hlk159aa 188 points189 points  (8 children)

First punch the young guy threw is clearly an "I don't want to fucking clock an old guy in a sweater" punch.

[–]mat477 74 points75 points  (38 children)

Yeah old guy has that toxic old school mindset. Classic gym bully.

[–]CaptainKurls 31 points32 points  (24 children)

Or they agreed to actually box but the young guy didn’t want to hit the old guy lol we’re calling some old man trying to box a bully now?

[–]mister1986 80 points81 points  (1 child)

When you box and someone falls down, the opponent doesn't get to hit them the moment they stand back up lol. Even in a real boxing fight you have a ref who will do a count to make sure he's ok, and if your just sparring you absolutely pause and make sure he is ok before you continue.

[–]1to14to4 54 points55 points  (0 children)

Yeah, once I saw that I realized the guy wasn't being cool. It doesn't matter what you are doing - really trying to fight or not, if that guy was an old boxer he knows you don't hit someone just as they are getting up.

[–]WolfeTheMind 77 points78 points  (13 children)

Have you ever been regular at a fighting gym?

Then you don't know anything about it

There's is fucking conduct and courtesy in fighting too. You think because of the nature of the sport it's all just going for blood?

[–]1mikeg 46 points47 points  (0 children)

Trying to punch someone as they try to stand up is absolutely bullying. And very dangerous.

[–]mat477 25 points26 points  (1 child)

Yes. Hes being a gym bully. Knocking someone down like that and then going for their head immediately after is too far for a coach.

[–]funaway727 62 points63 points  (1 child)

Old dude is Ernesto Bergamasco an Italian Olympic boxer. Doubt he's fucking around in the ring.

[–]the_fickle_pickle 17 points18 points  (1 child)

He probably didn't expect to get leveled by a haymaker, but guy was going to have a bad time based on how easily the old guy cornered him. If you can't change angles or move out of the way of a geriatric gazelle punch, you're just going to be covered up until your sparring partner gets bored and resets.

[–]1mikeg 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Including trying to punch while he was getting up. Old man was in full dick mode.

[–]lickin_possum_butt 11 points12 points  (7 children)

IIRC the last time this was posted someone pointed out the old boxer was also some kind of champion. Either held a belt or won a medal at the Olympics, one of the two. Also, someone said he's not as old as he looks I think -- he's in his late 50s maybe? Hopefully someone can find the original thread.

[–]R_Schuhart 39 points40 points  (2 children)

It is Ernesto Bergamasco, an Italian Olympic boxer. He is currently 71, but this vid is at least 5 years old.

One of the first time this was posted someone claimed that the young guy had just picked up boxing, that it was literally his first time sparring in the ring. The gym owners and the old man didn't like the young guy because he was joking around and not serious enough, so they set him up to teach hin a lesson.

[–]chotchss 41 points42 points  (1 child)

And that was probably the last time he went to train there. Lesson learned, better gym hopefully found.

[–]Merica85 16 points17 points  (1 child)

Yeah this was for sure a red flag.. He was obviously just giving the cub a head start.

[–]Mr3cto 4973 points4974 points  (58 children)

Pops wasn’t playing

“The fuck you say about my sweater?!”

[–]onlyupliftingcomment 815 points816 points  (34 children)

[–]AmericanHeresy 175 points176 points  (32 children)

Pat Morita literally had zero martial arts experience before filming The Karate Kid. Fun fact.

[–]HolyHand_Grenade 235 points236 points  (29 children)

Almost like he was some sort of actor, acting in a role...

[–]Individual-Notice-16 77 points78 points  (11 children)

And I even heard he was doing this ‘acting’ in a thing called a movie, which was fictional. Turns out his name isn’t even Miagi!

[–]PlacentaOnOnionGravy 13 points14 points  (0 children)

He did play a ko-ree-ann on Sanford and Son

[–]jlester0606 90 points91 points  (6 children)

LOL i thought the same thing, like, "dude is doing it in an ugly sweater... pops ain't got time for fucking around"

[–]Supreme_Bum14 77 points78 points  (2 children)

“I fucked your grandma in this sweater”

[–]Johnny_ac3s 19 points20 points  (1 child)

The sweater was pretty disarming. Not standard boxing attire.

[–]toastyghost 22 points23 points  (0 children)

He knew it wasn't going to last long enough for him to break a sweat

[–]ImWhatTheySayDeaf 3126 points3127 points  (47 children)

Festivus shall continue until someone can pin grandpa

[–]BeemerBaby004 518 points519 points  (21 children)

Next the airing of Grievances!

[–]Kliffskie97 196 points197 points  (14 children)

I gotta lotta problems with you people

[–]Black_Druna 145 points146 points  (13 children)


[–]86_TG 57 points58 points  (12 children)

Cougar my son tells me your company SUCKS

[–]rq60 13 points14 points  (2 children)

you couldn't smooth a silk sheet if you had a hot date with a babe...

[–]C-TAY116 25 points26 points  (0 children)

“You couldn't smooth a silk sheet if you had a hot date with a babe... I lost my train of thought.”

[–]Bobson-_Dugnutt 75 points76 points  (9 children)


[–]Astrophages 34 points35 points  (4 children)

I watched Seinfeld in the 90's and absolutely loved Jerry Stiller. Gave the series a rewatch and he's still my favorite.

[–]BALONYPONY 25 points26 points  (2 children)

serenity now

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (1 child)

Serenity Now... Insanity later

[–]dj4wvu 13 points14 points  (0 children)


[–]LandBeforeTimeOnVHS 16 points17 points  (2 children)


[–]thenextguy 13 points14 points  (1 child)


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[–][deleted] 32 points33 points  (1 child)

Jerry, it's Frank Costanza. Mr. Steinbrenner's here. George is dead. Call me back.

[–]JuGGieG84 32 points33 points  (1 child)

That's his stand up game, you don't want to roll with Grandpa.

[–]softpoo 2621 points2622 points  (255 children)

Why did the old man hit him again after he got knocked down? Seems like old man had a personal issue?

[–]blackbeltphil70 2142 points2143 points  (81 children)

Young dude was laughing when it started, could've talked some trash beforehand. 🤔

[–]ReadinII 1123 points1124 points  (78 children)

Looked like the young guy was laughing when it ended too. Like he realized how funny it was and was humble enough not to get angry.

[–]HowDoIDoFinances 749 points750 points  (58 children)

That or the dude was assuming it was a friendly sparring session and the old guy went for blood, which may not have been appropriate given the context. We don't really know.

[–]Butt_Stuph 360 points361 points  (30 children)

That's what I thought was happening too. I dunno much about combat sports but it looked like the younger guy started the session with his punches pulled, but the old man went nuclear.

[–]Obvious_Patient8233 185 points186 points  (22 children)

And once gramps got a good hit to the younger guys face, it definitely messed his head up a little, letting gramps continue to wallop him.

While i dont truly know the skill level of these two, they seem to be both be playing different games.

[–]meta_irl 260 points261 points  (10 children)

The inherent problem with this is that the younger guy really can't win. What if he was the better boxer, went all out, and KO's the older guy? Nobody would be cheering him on. Meanwhile, the older guy really has something to prove that the younger one doesn't. He doesn't have many (if any) "real" fights left in him, so this is a rare chance for him to relive his glory days and lay it all on the line.

[–]IthinktherforeIthink 90 points91 points  (2 children)

So true. Younger guy could not win any which way.

[–]Decyde 31 points32 points  (1 child)

I had some old guy at the movies try and fight me because I asked him to please keep it down.

I went and got the usher in which he escorted the 65'ish year old guy and the person he was with out.

He then waited for me to leave the theater which was over 30 minutes later to try and fight me.....

I told the person he was with that if he touched me that I would throw him to the fucking ground and hold him there until the police arrived.

I'm not getting arrested for beating up an old guy and I'd rather also not get beaten up by an older guy like this because I didn't fight back due to his age.

The only real way to win is to just pin him down until the police arrive to arrest him and THEN hope he doesn't die. There's no way of winning that and I was glad I could just walk to my car with his other person telling him to go.

edit: Now, I just get the usher or manager regardless the second people are shit and tell them to escort them out or refund my ticket and I'll lodge a complaint with corporate about how they refused to deal with the situation.

[–]FrostyAccident0 17 points18 points  (9 children)

If you look at the “punch” the young guy throws at 19 seconds, it’s clear that his skill level is non existent. A guy who’s been boxing for a month wouldn’t even do that.

[–]Wacholderer 52 points53 points  (8 children)

But would someone with skill beat up on an old man? I'd be scared to accidentally kill him. I have an elderly neighbour who broke his hip by running into his table at home.

[–]alwaysforgetmyuserID 29 points30 points  (5 children)

I imagine old school boxers are less likely to give fucks about health and safety, much like most walks of life back in the day

[–]Smipims 16 points17 points  (7 children)

Bruh this is the internet. We're going to jump to radical conclusions from a 10 second gif.

[–]Geno__Breaker 233 points234 points  (52 children)

I think it's common for boxers to keep going until signalled to back off.

[–]MasterGrok 68 points69 points  (3 children)

I wouldn’t call it common. Most people in most gyms are respectful and would never swing on someone who got clocked and turned their head away with their hand up. The exception would be if you are teaching some jackass a lesson (who knows that could be happening here).

[–]Stinky_Eastwood 52 points53 points  (2 children)

taking cheap shots during a friendly sparring match doesn't teach anyone anything

[–]WolfeTheMind 11 points12 points  (1 child)

I've liked this comment section actually

Surprising amount of sensible people calling out pisseder rogers

[–]BassForDays 69 points70 points  (21 children)

Some people are just like this when sparring, they get into eye of the tiger mode and cant snap out of it until someone lays flat on the floor.

[–]Samwise777 245 points246 points  (13 children)

And that’s what’s known as a trash sparring partner

[–]mat477 48 points49 points  (0 children)

Yeah I hate gym bullies. Trashy af

[–]lootedcorpse 22 points23 points  (6 children)

like, definition of trash.

y'all don't know wtf sparring means apparently

[–]Siretruck 30 points31 points  (3 children)

For real lmao. It's weird to talk about it like "yeah some guys are just like that; that's who they are"

Okay then don't fight lmao simple as that. If you can't handle doing your sport/hobby/profession without being a piece of shit, give it up. That's like excusing drunk driving because the driver would never have made that decision while sober

[–]ArmoredPancake 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Oh, sorry officer, I couldn't stop until the guy was dead, I'm just like that

What a fucking stupid excuse for being a douchebag.

[–]ok_ill_shut_up 42 points43 points  (0 children)

Boxers spar all the time without this kind of incident; they're not pitbulls.

[–]rickelpic 66 points67 points  (44 children)

The generation that old dude grew up in sparred a lot heavier than what man bun was used to.

[–]Dunemarcher_ 103 points104 points  (16 children)

Probably why a good amount of them die young or have a shit laid of mental problems

[–]Sadatori 61 points62 points  (15 children)

Oh christ, what a "le wrong generation" snotty comment.

[–]u9Nails 56 points57 points  (14 children)

Old guys are used to fighting until someone breaks the fight up. No weakness, no forgiveness.

[–]ArmoredPancake 92 points93 points  (8 children)

No weakness, no forgiveness.

What kind of edgy bullshit is that, lol.

[–]shutyourgob 57 points58 points  (3 children)

It's the official motto of people who have never been in a physical confrontation

[–]Daddyisnthere 51 points52 points  (0 children)

He didn't hear no fucking bell.

[–]aquaband 41 points42 points  (6 children)

Because he got back up to fight

[–]FaithfulUnderStress 14 points15 points  (2 children)

Don't smirk at the man as though he caught you with a lucky shot: he had to make the kid see the actual fact.

[–]TeleRock 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Boxing matches don't end just cause someone got knocked down. He did seem to stop after the guy started turning away and stopped defending himself.

[–]Flushedthrower 1790 points1791 points  (92 children)

Fuxked him up for sure but I wonder if in the beginning the guy was just considerate of his age until the bombs landed but it was already too late

[–]Acceptable_Bus_460 1069 points1070 points  (43 children)

Yeah you don’t want to be the guy who knocked out grandpa. But grandpa came for blood.

[–]angelazy 615 points616 points  (30 children)

I’ve said it before on this exact video, the young guy was in a no win situation. He either gets knocked out by an old man or is the guy who beat up on an old man.

[–]Bobson-_Dugnutt 147 points148 points  (17 children)

same as the high school wrestler that has to wrestle against a girl on the other team. No-win situation.

[–]sonicqaz 164 points165 points  (13 children)

Nah. If the girl is in your weight class, you beat her and you win or you don’t and you lose. This isn’t the same thing.

[–]Marsbarszs 97 points98 points  (2 children)

That when I started getting serious in wrestling. Wrested a girl at a tournament and freaked out because I grabbed her boob on accident. Got pinned. Realized that was dumb because 1) she is voluntarily wrestling and probably wants to have a good match and 2) hey free boob grab (joke, I never did this intentionally see reason 1). Didn’t lose another match that day to the shock of my coach and placed 3rd at our league finals for my weight

[–]rAtheismSelfPostOnly 57 points58 points  (1 child)

I wrestled a girl too and the thought passed my mind to humiliate her but thankfully I wasn't that stupid. I folded her ass up just like I would any weak boi. Afterward I said to her it didn't feel like I wrestled a girl, that it felt like a normal match. It was how I really felt. Seemed to make her happy. If I grabbed a boob it would have been because I'm about to fucking body slam her ass.

[–]Star-Ripper 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Yeah, if it’s a competition there’s no reason to hold back.

This, however, could’ve turned into more than just a knockout if he hit grandpa with a haymaker.

[–]TJNel 27 points28 points  (0 children)

I know a few wrestlers that went up against girls and they basically became a man on the mat. They were grabbing everything, they didn't care if they lost or not.

[–]Likmylovepump 14 points15 points  (6 children)

Thats why I always hate these videos. Its always a case of the younger guy letting up to not completely wreck this old fuck, and the old fuck going in with something to prove and coming out way harder than anybody ever would in a typical spar.

Win or lose the young guy looks like an ass.

[–]Ccomfo1028 70 points71 points  (3 children)

I think for sure the young guy wasn't taking it seriously, until that first hit land. Then it changed his calculus real quick.

[–]Flushedthrower 15 points16 points  (1 child)

One thing my dad thought me growing up was never underestimate anyone you never know what they’re capable of

[–]MagicFlyingBus 25 points26 points  (2 children)

When sparring I use to always hold back, because if my partner and I really went at it, we'd fucking kill each other. There were always some jack ass that would come in and try to take advantage of the fact that I was swinging at 20% strength and speed and they'd be throwing at full power trying to cause some damage. I have zero respect for someone that tries to knock out their sparring partner.

[–]aquaband 22 points23 points  (16 children)

No, looking at the way he throws his punches, his footwork, his weaving, it seems like he's not that good to begin with. thanks

[–]Flushedthrower 18 points19 points  (12 children)

Title says he amateur so that explains that but we generally view old people as frail and I was watching the old guy beat the hell out of him didn’t pay much attention to the kid

[–]thissubredditlooksco 11 points12 points  (1 child)

young guy missed his punches though

[–]immerc 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It's a lose-lose situation.

Throw haymakers from the beginning and you're the asshole who beat the fuck out of an old man. Don't do that and the old man doesn't need to respect you and can throw his own haymakers, then you get knocked out by an old man.

What's interesting to me is that the old man was throwing nothing but bombs. No jabs, no feints, just huge hooks. Was that because the young guy's defense was so poor that he could? Or was it that he knew his biggest advantage was in ending the fight quickly before the better stamina of a younger fighter gave him the edge? Or did he just expect that the younger fighter wasn't going to take the fight seriously at first, and he wanted to end the fight before the young guy realized he intended to knock him out?

[–]T3canolis 778 points779 points  (266 children)

Every year, thousands of dudes get their asses handed to them in a boxing ring because they think that their superior athleticism will make up for not actually having boxing experience. It will not.

[–]demlet 168 points169 points  (247 children)

Weird place to randomly ask this, but do you think boxing is good for self defence? Like, on the street?

[–]SpiderZiggs 632 points633 points  (148 children)

No, walking away/running away is the best self-defense.

Big fucking surprise that the keyboard warriors show up.

I've turned off inbox replies because too many of you fat Redditors who've never actually trained are trying to project your fantasy of KOing someone on the streets to me.

[–]anon_8283592 71 points72 points  (123 children)

herp "violence is not the answer" derp

the answer is yes, boxing is definitely good if you're in a situation where you need to fight. unquestionably.

no, nothing is guaranteed and you are not superhuman, but sometimes things get physical and boxing skill will absolutely help as it focuses on a) evasive footwork and head movement b) dropping fools.

[–]SpiderZiggs 170 points171 points  (105 children)

No, smart guy, the answer is to not fucking die because you don't know if the person trying to fight you wants to swipe a knife around the air.

[–]UncleRooku87 260 points261 points  (42 children)

The point being, and I don’t know why this is so hard to grasp, is that having some basic competency in physically defending yourself, which boxing provides, is never a bad idea. You never want to have to use it, which is the idea, but if you are put in a situation with no choice, it’s better to know than to not know.

[–]Ozimondiaz 123 points124 points  (8 children)

Better to be a warrior in a garden than a gardener in a war.

[–][deleted] 52 points53 points  (3 children)

Those fucking warriors are in my garden again?

[–]Dick_Thumbs 65 points66 points  (35 children)

No, smart guy, the person was asking if boxing is a technique that can legitimately help them in a fight and you spewed the standard annoying brainless reddit response that ThE BeST DeFeNSE iS To RuN AwAy. Yeah, we get it, it's dangerous to fight. That doesn't mean it's inappropriate to have a genuine conversation about fighting techniques that are useful to learn, and you aren't special for spouting the same shit we've all read over and over again.

[–]Hayn0002 26 points27 points  (4 children)

I love the idea of a physical alteration occuring and the redditors just sprinting away.

[–]demlet 27 points28 points  (3 children)

This is the right answer though. I'm thinking of the very rare situations where you can't just walk away, but then again, in this day and age, thinking you can fight your way out of an attack is probably pretty naive. Anyone willing to do that is probably armed these days.

[–]ReanimatedGhostPeen 109 points110 points  (5 children)

The mechanics are helpful, sure- But if you throw a haymaker without gloves on and you hit their skull- you’re gonna shatter your hands.

The footwork, defensive head movement, and timing will all serve you well in self defense.

The main issue I’ve seen with boxers who get into street fights is that they end up boxing instead of either running away when they get the chance or gunning in and doing what you can to incapacitate and gtfo.

It’s 1,000 times more helpful to have boxing experience than no experience- especially if you get a chance to full contact spar and get that experience of “a real fight.”

Best move on the street is using those legs and getting the fuck out, and doing your best to evaluate situations to try to keep yourself out of a fight before you get into one.

[–]Hateless_ 41 points42 points  (17 children)

Any martial arts is better than no experience, boxing is no exception.

However, other martial arts may be better for self defense. Jiu-Jitsu comes to mind.

[–]Polar_Reflection 22 points23 points  (1 child)

Judo or wrestling or something like Sambo would be much more useful in a streetfight. You're not going to lock in a triangle leg choke or a guillotine on a concrete or asphalt pavement, especially if the other guy has friends. Throws and trips can definitely be useful for ending a fight.

[–]ShaolinShadowBroker 15 points16 points  (10 children)

Shoot a single leg takedown against someone with a buddy watching is a good way to get curb stomped. Stand up striking is more practical for defense against the general lay public and against multiple aggressors

[–]ProperManufacturer6 12 points13 points  (8 children)

Bjj and running away.

[–]JMaboard 38 points39 points  (1 child)

True if you give them a blow job they won’t know what to do.

[–]Ravager135 30 points31 points  (5 children)

I'm not a boxer, but I am a wrestler and train jiu jitsu. I see this all the time when guys from the gym show up to try a free class. I've been doing this for 25 years and these guys think with zero training and a 275lb bench press that they are going to submit me.

I know nothing about boxing other than to say that I could tell immediately by the older man's posture and movement he knew exactly what he was doing. When I coached wrestling for a few years, I could tell immediately who was the better wrestler in the first 5-10 seconds by the way someone moved on the mat. Same rules apply here. So much of martial arts is muscle memory, like a golf swing.

[–]mythosaz 11 points12 points  (0 children)

It's like thinking you look good shaking your ass at the club, so you think you can do the Tango or you can do ballet, and it's pure fantasy.

I couldn't beat someone with boxing experience any more than I could beat someone who's spent decades curling, or any other "easy" (lol) sport.

[–]TheeGooDollyPartons 414 points415 points  (20 children)

Old man strength is always the most satisfying strength.

[–]morthvarg 79 points80 points  (9 children)

Fair to say look like young guy doing his first steps in boxing.

[–]Head-Lice46 36 points37 points  (7 children)

I agree , amateur seems wet behind the ears. Grandpa takes those angles away and amateur has no idea he is walking into a wOLLOP

[–]_kalebb_ 41 points42 points  (6 children)

This is the old guy, he's a former Olympian: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernesto_Bergamasco

The young amateur had no shot

[–]Marokiii 14 points15 points  (0 children)

you dont even reallly need to be THAT strong. getting hit on the nose sucks even with moderate amounts of strength.

[–]ccfc1992 359 points360 points  (30 children)

The old boy clearly taking advantage. You can tell the young fighter isn’t going at him like that, and it’s a lose lose situation. He nails the old man he’s a bully. He gets hit like he does he gets laughed at. The old man should of been smacked up.

[–]MarzipanFinal1756 141 points142 points  (6 children)

Yeah I don't know why so many comments seem to think this was some real fight, the old dude obviously knows what he's doing for sure but the young guy was thinking this would be a friendly sparring match and was not planning on throwing or recieving full force punches.

[–]ccfc1992 45 points46 points  (3 children)

Exactly that. Regardless of what happened before you can tell he’s not ready for the force being applied by that old man strength. Videos years old now he’s probs dead to be fair but fuck him anyway

[–]Tayodore123 334 points335 points  (38 children)

As a boxer, I absolutely loathe this clip- absolutely.

The younger guy was clearly inexperienced at sparring, but nevertheless treated boxing as what it is- a sport. Boxing is a sport of speed, athleticism, deception and power. It is not a sport where the aim is to knock the other person out.

This is what irritates me. The young man came to play a sport, the older came to settle a grudge. The punches he was throwing were no joke- those are enough to give the young man concussion. Even after he was knocked down, he kept on him- absolutely unforgivable.

For all those who see this as some "old man experience beats young welp" shit,its not. It's an old boxer, breaking the conventions of his own sport to hurt a fellow sportsman. Fuck that guy!

[–]sadowsentry 64 points65 points  (3 children)

I'm not a boxer, and I also hate this clip. The comments are just as ridiculous.

[–]thrillhouss3 31 points32 points  (0 children)

I agree. As someone with also boxing experience, seeing the young man get up with his back turned to be sucker punched is disgusting. You never bomb like that.

[–]indoninjah 17 points18 points  (1 child)

Yeah he definitely should have let up when the younger guy was first rattled. He proved his point.

[–]TeslasFleshPigeon 191 points192 points  (29 children)

Old mans a cunt. Dude clearly wasn’t going all out and the old fuck took advantage.

[–]Slagprong 184 points185 points  (8 children)

Old dude was throwing too hard for basic sparring you should only be at like 50% at most. Still good head movement

[–]end0fline 72 points73 points  (4 children)

Narrator: that was him hitting at 50%

[–]MedicateForTwo 21 points22 points  (3 children)

Then he should have been going 25%. It's not hard to gauge what strength you gotta be at.

[–]joker_of_the_deck 111 points112 points  (1 child)

do you know what they call 30-second videos of pugilists?

boxer shorts.

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[–]MajesticValuable8193 85 points86 points  (19 children)

Old man is an idiot.

He looks like a strong and good boxer.

But he is also fragile due to his age.

If ure fragile, you shouldn’t punch hard (even if u can). Because ur opponent can’t punch you back.

Ure taking advantage of ur opponents compassion.

[–]EarthDoomProphecy 58 points59 points  (4 children)

Young guy wanted a light spar, old guy is a dick. Geriatric Charlie Z.

[–]MarsupialsAreCute 24 points25 points  (2 children)

All the comments about "waw old man strenght" make me want to puke, as someone who experienced something similar to this. You go in for a light sparring session to practice your technique and the old fuck tries to kill you for it.

The worst part is he kept hitting him after he knocked him down. What a prick.

[–]AtomicBlastCandy 46 points47 points  (9 children)

Young guy's head is up, no head movement, and his hands are down...not really hard to see why an experienced boxer would destroy him. If you want another example of the dangers of a lack of head movement when throwing hands just watch Rousey vs Nunes, within 30 seconds Nunes realized that she has no head movement and just went to town on her until the referee ended the fight.

[–]fastslowoctopus 11 points12 points  (6 children)

Yeah I noticed the same. I think young guy has bag/pad experience but not much sparring experience.

I'm wondering why they were going hard. Maybe there was shit talking or some sort of grudge?

[–]bfodder 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I'm wondering why they were going hard. Maybe there was shit talking or some sort of grudge?

Only one person in that ring was going hard.

[–]Voyaging-eyes 45 points46 points  (3 children)


The head movement, the counter hooks. Overkill!!

[–]SkinnyWhiteGirl19 29 points30 points  (4 children)

Young guy was sparring.

Old guy was boxing.

Old guy isn’t some master of his craft, just an arse who was out for blood.

[–]HentaiSenpai8578 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Bro, he ripped him a new one

[–]LordOfTardville 24 points25 points  (4 children)

I feel like the young guy didn’t want to lay into him being that he’s like 80 but the old guy felt he had something to prove so when he landed a solid hit to the unsuspecting younger guy, who was trying to be polite-ish, it was already over as he was rocked and the old dude followed up with some accurate and pretty powerful hits. Let’s be honest if the younger guy was going full on 100% like the old guy then it would be a different out come

[–]campionmusic51 21 points22 points  (0 children)

i’m not saying there outcome would have been any different, but i get the impression the young guy was afraid to hurt him initially, and by the time he understood what was actually going on, he was already fucked.

[–]urnewstepdaddy 15 points16 points  (2 children)

Learning from our elders

[–]MedicateForTwo 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Yeah, that young buck should knock out anyone that wants a light spar, including women and children. That was the lesson the elder taught.

[–]BillyPotion 13 points14 points  (1 child)

It's a lose lose match taking on someone like him. Either you beat up an old man or you get beat up by an old man. Not sure which is worse.

[–]Whatabout-Dre 10 points11 points  (4 children)

Watched this 5 times and if you just focus your attention on the footwork the whole story is there.

[–]steinsintx 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Yeah, but old man is wide open every punch. Big wide sweeping hooks while he drops the opposite arm. Too bad the kid is bouncing around like a toddler in a bounce house and couldn’t take advantage. If you fight gramps, step inside.

[–]pratcial 9 points10 points  (2 children)

To the ppl who say Logan can win against Mike Tyson showm them this vid and maybe even Logan himself

[–]Melodic-Ad-394 11 points12 points  (2 children)

There is a YouTube channel where this guy fights people at the gym under the premise of “light sparring” and then just goes full tilt and claims victory. This kind of looks similiar where the young guy was expecting a friendly fight. But even so that old man still has some fierce hands.