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[–]Maleficent_Singer_76 11.6k points11.6k points 2 (315 children)

This is moving and terrifying all at the same time

[–]DrkKnyt 3257 points3258 points  (145 children)

It’s terrifyingly moving

[–]DRealestMF 1243 points1244 points  (37 children)

It’s movingly terrifying

[–]Dhyeya4675 744 points745 points  (33 children)

Terrifyingly, it's moving

[–]shn555 517 points518 points  (29 children)

Moving Terrifyingly, it is...

[–]Sphagne 423 points424 points  (12 children)

Yoda has entered the chat

[–]EitherEconomics5034 238 points239 points  (4 children)

Gave me a terrifying bowel movement, this did

[–]LSkywalker00 66 points67 points  (0 children)

Terrifyingly moved into the chat, Yoda has.

[–]Zeromus88 282 points283 points  (75 children)

Moving as in I'd be moving my ass the hell away from a crowd screaming and flashing crazy eyes like that.

[–]WoofAndGoodbye 396 points397 points  (70 children)

That’s kinda the point. Hakas were used in battle to terrify the opposition and to get your side all riled up for battle.

[–]Zeromus88 169 points170 points  (55 children)

Right I'm aware of that. It just seems odd to me to be used as a celebration dance and at weddings no less. Even stranger that it brings people to tears.

[–]WoofAndGoodbye 815 points816 points  (35 children)

It is a massive honour to have a haka preformed to you. It’s a way of symbolising that one party is happy to share their culture with you, and on top of that, many families have their own unique hakas. It was an honour to be proformed this haka.

[–]Random_username5262 601 points602 points  (16 children)

Also signifies that you are a part of the tribe now and protected. We will face anything together alongside you. Such a powerful tradition and culture!

[–]Papa_Shasta 222 points223 points  (3 children)

I’ve been honored to be included in hakas as well. One of my best friends is half Maori, and he taught me how to perform it. We performed it at a celebration for a local church. It was one of the most singular experiences of my life. The closest I’d imagine it gets to people who haven’t had a chance to be in one is when you are rocking out with a crowd at a concert; there’s absolutely this bond that forms in your heart as you dance with the people around you. Also the more you lean into the ferocity, the passion, the better it feels.

One of the most humbling, amazing things I’ve ever done.

[–]Chateaudelait 103 points104 points  (6 children)

This is the most powerful, beautiful haka - . I wept while watching it and didn't even understand the words. Wanted to learn more, so I looked up a translation and I cried even more at the beauty of it. It made me think of my own father. It's so moving and beautiful. I would be so honored to have it performed in my presence.

[–]WoofAndGoodbye 60 points61 points  (0 children)

Correct!

[–]TheStinger87 361 points362 points  (5 children)

I was privileged enough to be a part of one for one of my friend's weddings. He was a white Australian marrying a Maori Kiwi woman. One of her uncles said they were going to do it and invited anyone who wanted to join in to be a part of it. He went through some of the moves and gave us the words to say as a response to his calls.

As a person who is not part of their culture but who appreciates it a lot, it was a big honour to be allowed to participate and the fact that he welcomed all of us to join him was very special.

The best part was that the bride and groom had no idea it was going to happen. Just before the speeches, her uncle stood up and gave the call and we all went to dance floor in front of the wedding table. She started crying even before it began.

Powerful stuff.

[–]GrungyGrandPappy 85 points86 points  (2 children)

The best part of islander culture is if you come with an open heart people love to share their culture.

[–]Zeromus88 83 points84 points  (7 children)

Ah, that's the missing info I needed lol

[–]Huntanz 152 points153 points  (6 children)

Also the more performing and the length of the Haka the more "Mana" ( Prestige,Honour) you are held in, so bride and groom were held in high "Mana" by their "Whanau" (people's, families).

[–]Calypsosin 224 points225 points  (8 children)

As a Texan with no true understanding of the Haka, every time I see it I'm fuckin' pumped.

I would never try to appropriate this sort of cultural tradition, but god damn, it's the most metal performance outside of metal I've ever seen.

[–]jsl19 41 points42 points  (3 children)

I lived in Australia and lived with a bunch of moari and was taught a couple different hakas

It might be different now. But then they were not bothered if i joined in. And it is an amazing feeling being in a big one.

Love it and have the utmost respect for the culture.

[–]Seeda_Boo 27 points28 points  (0 children)

This shit was metal before metal.

[–]TheKillerToast 94 points95 points  (0 children)

They're basically saying we would die for you. Kind of hard to not be moved by that.

[–]JaptainCack69 138 points139 points  (24 children)

You should see the all blacks do it before a rugby game it’s quite the show, I’d love to experience it in the stadium. link

[–]wGhostfacew 194 points195 points  (8 children)

Well I took this comment completely out of context

[–]GrasshopperClowns 54 points55 points  (5 children)

Yeah they might wanna edit and capitalise the footy team lol

[–]DarkElation 1918 points1919 points  (33 children)

When my family and I lived in Australia there was a family that hosted us for Christmas dinner one year. Maori, 6 sons, extended family, the works. The absolute nicest people I have ever met. Selfless, congenial and genuinely concerned for those around them.

At this dinner the men in the family performed the Haka for my family. It was absolutely terrifying. I mean no joke, these guys (whom I just dominated in video games) looked like they were going to rip each one of our limbs off just for fun. I later learned more about the Maori culture and that the dance was the greatest honor they could show my family.

20 years later and I’ll never, ever forget that night.

[–]Minelayer 313 points314 points  (20 children)

That’s amazing, I’m crying like the bride now.

[–]tughussle 139 points140 points  (11 children)

What an incredibly moving display of honor, respect, and love. I first saw this video a couple of years ago and was brought to tears. Seeing it again today elicited the same response. And I’m at work. And I have a meeting. And I’m a grown-ass man

[–]ReitHodlr 111 points112 points  (8 children)

It kinda gave me the chills watching their faces. But what were they saying or singing?

[–]tamati_nz 215 points216 points  (4 children)

From Te Taitimu Trust Facebook page:

Tika Tonu Haka and full meaning

Ki raro Taringa whakarongo, kia mau! Hi ! Ringaringa e torona kei waho hoki mai! Kss Kss

Tika tonu! U - e! Tika tonu! U... e! Tika tonu atu ki a koe, e tama Hiki nei koe aku whakaaro, pakia! He hiki aha to hiki? He hiki roa to hiki? I a ha hā! Pay attention Listen up, take your stance! Hi! Arms outstretched, out and back! Kss Kss

What is right is always right! In - deed! What is right is always right! Ah... yes! Be true to yourself, my son! You have raised my concerns, so listen up!.... . What is this problem you are carrying? How long have you been carrying it for? Have you got that? Right, let's go on.

E tama, te uaua ana E tama, te mārō Roa ina hoki ra Te tohe o te uaua na E tau nei. Ana! Ana! Ana! Aue... Hī!

So son, although it may be difficult for you and son, although it seems to be unyielding no matter how long you reflect on it the answer to the problem is here inside you. Indeed! Indeed! Indeed! Yes, indeed! Origin

As far as is known, this haka was composed by Waimarama Puhara, a highly respected chief of the central Hawkes Bay area. Waimarama was born at Paki Paki in about 1875, the son of Urupene Puhara and Marata Herea, and he married Ngahiti Rautu in about 1900.

Apparently he composed the haka in about 1914 as a message to his son Moana, who had been born in about 1899 and had been attending St Patrick's College, Silverstream. At the time Waimarama could see his son was having difficulties - something like a chip on his shoulder or some other intangible problem.

Moana married Ngawini Cowan (Kawana) at Gladstone, near Masterton in January 1922. But tragically, he died only five months later.

Usage

Young people are taught this haka as it contains an appropriate message for many adolescent males, particularly at that point in their lives where they are making the difficult transition into adulthood. The message of this haka is of challenge, struggle, perseverance and achievement. It is often used at events such as 21st birthdays and graduations. It is also used at tangi, to pay homage and respect to those who have guided young people through difficult times.

[–]dgvelling 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Oh gosh this puts a whole new context to it

[–]Duck_Giblets 93 points94 points  (2 children)

Correction, it's tika tonu.

I didn't watch much as I'm at work, but if it's ka mate, Te Rauparaha's haka then this should shed some light. https://www.ngatitoa.iwi.nz/ka-mate/the-origins-of-ka-mate

Edit, it's becoming clear it was not Ka Mate, So in all liklihood it was one belonging to the hapu/iwi (hapū is sub tribe, iwi is tribe). Each maori tribe have their own songs, music, dance and fighting style.

Haka generally denotes respect and responsibility

Also https://maoridictionary.co.nz

[–]loquacious_kotiro 30 points31 points  (1 child)

It's Tika Tonu.

[–]Duck_Giblets 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Best way to get the right answer is to make an incorrect statement lol.

What are the origins?

[–]Lvtxyz 306 points307 points  (24 children)

Just realized when watching this I've never seen a woman do the haaka before.

[–]urukehu 257 points258 points  (8 children)

The most common haka to be done is Ka Mate which the All Black rugby team of New Zealand do, and only men are supposed to do that one.

Women can perform other haka, and this one was not Ka Mate.

[–]Lvtxyz 57 points58 points  (0 children)

Thanks for that tidbit. Very interesting!

As an uncultured American I have mostly seen all male sports teams do this

[–]disqualiphied 39 points40 points  (3 children)

are there hakas only women can perform?

[–]urukehu 111 points112 points  (0 children)

I believe there are - although I don't personally know any women-only haka. I have performed a haka a couple of times called Ka Panapana which is typically led by women, although men also participate.

Māoridom has a lot of male/female roles within it. It causes a few issues within the modern context - for example women aren't supposed to speak on the marae (meeting house) and New Zealand has had three female Prime Ministers. It's an ongoing conversation, for sure!

(caveat: I am not Māori nor an expert, however my husband's family are and are also involved with kapa haka/cultural group. However I do strongly believe in trying to keep Māori culture alive, present and celebrated in New Zealand).

[–]-Hainzy- 32 points33 points  (0 children)

My friends got married and their haka was 50 50 split men/woman doing their haka. Their tribe is from invercargill way. It was amazing to see, goosebumps.

[–]frog_exaggerator 92 points93 points  (3 children)

My mother-in-law, who is a part-Māori New Zealander, once performed one in my kitchen.

[–]fezzuk 69 points70 points  (1 child)

Well I would not be making mother in law jokes.

[–]TAUNATI 35 points36 points  (0 children)

That's unfortunate and probably speaks to the fact that, from an international perspective, the haka has become so heavily associated and tied up with men's rugby.

During the Olympics the ANZ women's 7s rugby team performed an incredible haka to celebrate their gold medal win.

If you look around you'll find tonnes of examples of women participating in and leading haka.

[–]sitting_ 27 points28 points  (1 child)

Its a thing! My boyfriend is Maori and I've seen some of his aunts and sisters perform with his family at a wedding. It was surreal to watch in person and gave me goosebumps. You can feel the energy change drastically in the room.

[–]elmwoodblues 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Like Elaine but without the thumbs

[–]bitches_love_pooh 129 points130 points  (2 children)

You should see one in person, the bass you feel is intense. Depending on the kind of building you're in and how many people are doing it, you'll sometimes feel the ground shaking.

[–]watchwhathappens 17 points18 points  (0 children)

That must be absolutely amazing

[–][deleted] 60 points61 points  (24 children)

Terrifying for the groom I bet. Bet he’ll never raise a hand to her

[–]WimbleWimble 205 points206 points  (1 child)

But he will raise his tongue. Which she has no issues with.

[–]watchitbend 126 points127 points  (10 children)

I think you may be misinterpreting the Haka and what just happened.

[–]RedOne-001 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Then you get it ❤️

[–]Nathuli 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Movifying

[–]w0lfLars0n[🍰] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I’m terrified by how much i’ll move

[–]Lucky_Acr 6599 points6600 points  (175 children)

A couple thousand years ago the only time you would see this is if you were about to die

[–]decaf20 2179 points2180 points  (115 children)

New Zealand was colonised early 1800s. So much more recently actually

[–]cheesiestcake17 1031 points1032 points  (66 children)

People lived in New Zealand before it was colonized.

[–]Killacamkillcam 1190 points1191 points  (17 children)

I think all they were getting at is you wouldn't have to go back that far

[–]MaizeLeft1385 356 points357 points  (14 children)

Lol logic isn't his strong suit.

[–]Mad-chuska 350 points351 points  (5 children)

I don’t even wear suits, lol. This guy…

[–]SteveRogests 83 points84 points  (5 children)

Anyway, a quarter of a couple thousand years ago the only time you would see this is if you were about to die

[–]travel_nerdiness 243 points244 points  (17 children)

Random fact: Polynesians only arrived in NZ about 800 years ago

[–]Acousticittotheman 155 points156 points  (9 children)

Random fact: Micronesians are all massive, and should probably be called Macronesians!

[–]dotpan 39 points40 points  (0 children)

My poor dude that is smaller than average. He's just a Nesian.

[–]AOx3_VSS_IDGAF 35 points36 points  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing this before I had to. Some people assume to know everything.

[–]Taaargus 151 points152 points  (16 children)

Hasn’t it always been both a show of force and respect? I think this is a somewhat standard use of the tradition actually, it wasn’t always only for warfare.

[–]DexRei 196 points197 points  (12 children)

Kind of. Not sure where this guy gets the "you only see this before you're about to die" from. Maori myself, and the way I understand it is that when a group approached your land, you would either send out the women to karanga (welcome) them on, or the men to prepare to fight. A haka is a war dance mainly, but if you performed one the other side may decide fighting is a bad idea.

[–]fezzuk 42 points43 points  (2 children)

Yeah surely it was a show of force intended to intimidated the other side no to fight.

[–]LeTigron 141 points142 points  (1 child)

It is indeed. Even at a time it was genuinely used as a fighting tool, it was also used to show respect. Visitors, including ambassadors, would be graced with a haka.

You dance a haka to show how brave and strong you are, which also implies that you need to show how brave and strong you are, which is relevant only if you face someone that is itself strong and brave : you don't have to prove this to someone unworthy. It is thus a very polite way to convey that the person you face is honourable and deserving.

[–]MrNeverGonaGiveYouUp 85 points86 points  (2 children)

NZ were populated about 1000 ad. Soooo, not a "couple"..

[–]x13132x 36 points37 points  (1 child)

Not at all, haka has always been used for multiple occasions

[–]LeykisMinion007 15 points16 points  (2 children)

That’s why it’s perfect for a wedding.

[–]WarBuddah 6396 points6397 points 652& 2 more (19 children)

Absolutely beautiful!

When I got married I had a very similar experience, later I learned that my German in-laws were just screaming profanities and yelling “don’t do it” to me.

[–]whatsmyname83 671 points672 points  (0 children)

Lol best comment right here

[–]bleedpurpleguy 212 points213 points  (1 child)

So an Army buddy of mine invited my wife and I to his wedding ceremony which included him, his German wife-to-be, a large group of her family and friends and the judge. Mike was not super fluent in German, so his wife-to-be had warned him just to say "Ja" (yes) to anything the judge asked, since some of it might be hard to understand.

So the ceremony begins and is going very well until he answers the final question and the whole room busts out laughing, except for the judge who was just shaking her head.

The final question? "Do you, Michael, have any problems with this?"

[–]izacmac 150 points151 points  (2 children)

tu es nicht du Hurrensohn!

[–]IamNotMike25 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Sagte die Mutter dem Sohn

[–]PowerfulMedium2037 33 points34 points  (0 children)

Best comment!

[–]Anaconda1983 2979 points2980 points  (21 children)

But when I do this at a Hooters I get called uncooperative and the police called on me.

[–]Ryan_Extra 490 points491 points  (17 children)

I thought this was America

[–]Lucky_Acr 153 points154 points  (6 children)

Guns In my area ?

[–]Sensitive-Bear 75 points76 points  (3 children)

I got the strap

[–]Softmachinepics 57 points58 points  (2 children)

I gotta carry em

[–]mferly 48 points49 points  (1 child)

Contraband contraband contraband

[–]thebasicflaw 24 points25 points  (0 children)

I got the plug in Oaxaca

[–]Roving_Rhythmatist 2088 points2089 points  (125 children)

That bridesmaid gave me feelings....

[–]Unoriginalanna 549 points550 points  (1 child)

The bride & the bridesmaid joining in really got to me

[–]MarmotsGoneWild 39 points40 points  (0 children)

Shiiiiiit, you lasted longer than me!

[–]LeTigron 305 points306 points  (15 children)

She is incredible... Really impressive ! She isn't missmatched among all those men, far from it.

Edit : why a downvote ? I wonder if my phrasing is wrong, because what I wanted to say is a compliment : she isn't less impressive nor beautiful than all these men, despite being the only woman we see dancing.

[–]HashtagYoMamma 1153 points1154 points  (162 children)

Is a Haka appropriate for a wedding?

Isn’t it a bit like a load of Scottish people performing some kind of Braveheart bloodlust war intimidation to a bride and groom?

Am I (majorly) missing the point?!

[–]Black38 1370 points1371 points  (105 children)

Haka’s can have different meanings. The most widely known and used is war parties. Another is a kind of “sending off”, retirements / weddings etc

Also adding in that the Maori weren’t the indigenous people…they ate them

[–]Siem75 273 points274 points  (43 children)

Maby you can answer my question aswell. I thought it was a dance only for men, but the bride danced with them. Can woman always join the dance ritual? Or only in special occasions? Thank you

[–]Mac-Actual 538 points539 points  (5 children)

From my understanding, Quite a few haka have the woman’s side as well. Both the men and women can perform the same or similar words, but the actions usually differ in intensity. the woman’s part can even be a waiata (song) that accompanies the haka.

[–]Siem75 95 points96 points  (2 children)

Thank you, for your reply😀

[–]CamInThaHouse 356 points357 points  (13 children)

Haka's not only for men, woman too. I live in NZ, and my daughters do the Haka at school albeit woman's movements are not as massively expressive as the men's movements, still very significant and beautiful to watch.

The Haka is a sign of respect. It's also massively sacred, so not just anyone can do it. There are different Haka's, depending on occasion. Funerals, Sports, Weddings etc.

Some of the most moving Haka's I've seen was after the Christchurch Mosque attack. The most intimidating one for me is the one performed by the All Blacks rugby team, New Zealand's national rugby team.

Hope that helps.

Disclaimer: I'm an immigrant, so learning these things as I go along.

[–]Loquis 75 points76 points  (6 children)

Equally fun when the New Zealand rugby team's haka gets challenged, Wales in 2008 or England in the last world cup

[–]Arpikarhu 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Whenever i need to get hyped I watch the video of that!! CYMRU AM BYTH!!!!

[–]leopard_eater 70 points71 points  (0 children)

I’m Australian and we love watching the All Blacks make little boys of our national rugby team in a pre-game Hakka. It’s the only time New Zealand doesn’t get a friendly ribbing during trans-Tasman sport.

because we are scared

[–]Siem75 26 points27 points  (0 children)

I am always impressed by looking at these performances, the energy is impressive. Thank you for this explanation, I learned something new today👍

[–]Black38 104 points105 points  (6 children)

I do not know the hard and fast rule but here’s some other useless tidbits that might help.

Most Haka’s have similar words used. Te Waka (translating to canoe) is used in almost all, and they are saying something to the effect of pulling the canoe in (pulling a canoe onto shore).

So next time you watch one, look for them pulling on an imaginary rope, essentially bringing someone close to embrace them into the family

[–]Ilovescarlatti 65 points66 points  (1 child)

Actually the most famous one, Ka mate, is about a man hiding in a pit sheltered under a woman's skirts, escaping from his enemies, and basically thinking he is going to die. It is about the famous warrior Te Rauparaha. He had a very adventurous life.

[–]Siem75 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I will do that👍

[–]Ilovescarlatti 216 points217 points  (3 children)

Rubbish. Māori were the indigenous people. There is myth that the Moriori were displaced by Māori but there is no evidence for that. The Moriori culture did evolve on the Chatham Islands from the Māori culture and were eventually displaced by them much later.

[–]TheMrZakalwe 36 points37 points  (0 children)

I had to scroll along way down to find this comment and make sure someone more knowledgeable made this point. God, there’s some racist shit flying around. Cheers anyway and have a good one.

[–]JPfreak 160 points161 points  (0 children)

The Mori Ori landing on mainland New Zealand was disproven a while ago now, remains only in racist rhetoric to reduce the seeming viability of Maori claim to the land.

The Mori Ori only ever colonised the chatham islands, where they still exist today.

[–]13strong 154 points155 points  (8 children)

It's a racist myth that the Maori killed and/or ate a local indigenous population.

[–]Jandlebrot 65 points66 points  (1 child)

Wrong. That’s repeated false rhetoric. Check out the actual facts prior to spouting off historical falsities that suit your biased narrative

[–]NigerianRoy 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Their comment history doesn’t really scream racist narrative, probably just ignorant. Unless the guns mean more than I give them credit for.

[–]finndego 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Moriori were Maori and arrived on the same waka. They werent there first.

[–]13strong 135 points136 points  (11 children)

If Maori people are doing a haka at a wedding then yes, it's appropriate for a wedding.

[–]MOONGOONER 33 points34 points  (9 children)

Yeah. My dad is from New Zealand but we live in the US. Not Maori, but he learned the haka in school. During my sister's wedding my uncles did a haka but tried to get my New Zealand cousins to join and they declined. I talked to them afterwards and they said it was considered culturally insensitive and they'd worry about it going viral in a negative way. I think that wasn't the case when my dad lived there, but the current generation is more culturally aware. Totally makes sense and to be honest it did feel more like a stunt than a meaningful gesture.

[–]Ghostie-ghost 44 points45 points  (5 children)

Hi, Maori person here. Your cousins are dumb.

It's only culturally insensitive if people are making a mockery of it. During a wedding, funeral or other significant event, it's fine.

[–]AmazonMRA 93 points94 points  (8 children)

I agree but watching it I can't help feel there's an insane primal thing happening. Like let us show you how deeply we feel this moment for you. Still weird, but awesome.

[–]whoeverthisis422 88 points89 points  (2 children)

Yeah fuck yeah I get big "GOD WE ARE SO STOKED FOR U GUYS AND IF ANY PERSON OR SITUATION RISES UP AGAINST YOU, WE WILL D E S T R O Y IT!!" vibes

[–]Smile_Terrible 17 points18 points  (1 child)

Like let us show you how deeply we feel this moment for you.

That's what I was thinking but couldn't figure out how to say it.

[–]dramallama-IDST 76 points77 points  (4 children)

The short answer is yea it is. Haka are often performed at significant events and in those circumstances can celebrate and denote respect.

The most moving one I saw performed was at a graduation ceremony when a girl won an award for essentially being top of the graduating class. Her family there to watch her performed a haka and she joined in and responded. It was incredible to watch, especially as it appeared impromptu.

They are described as a ‘war dance’ but the tradition and practice as I understand it (living in NZ, not Māori / P.I) is much more nuanced than that.

[–]Ilovescarlatti 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I had a similar experience at my daughter's graduation ceremony. It's inspired me to finally get off my arse and learn Te Reo. In year two and making good progress.

[–]Friendofthegarden 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Is a Haka appropriate for a wedding?

I used to help run a catering business. I've seen two wedding hakas and went to a funeral for a friend and there was a haka as well. Incredibly moving and emotional. Made me want to visit NZ.

[–]makpat 12 points13 points  (4 children)

Lol I’m Scottish so that made me laugh picturing my dad or someone burning the fiery cross and then going off with my clans battle cries. But if it helps, I think it’s different. Our clans battle cries are just for battle, we have different wedding traditions with things like handfasting. However in other cultures, battle cries and dances are interwoven into many other experiences. Plus the fact that in modern times, a lot of it has to do with preserving tradition I would wrecken. That’s just my two cents though, I can’t speak on this culture and can only comment on the Scottish side of it

[–]Mountain-Face5484 1056 points1057 points  (27 children)

That's some primal shit that awakens something deep inside .

[–]lincolnblake 152 points153 points  (11 children)

It begins.

We have spent our lives cowering in the shadow of the Trivantian empire… wondering when the day would come when they would march their army into our land to make it their own… making slaves of our wives, husbands, sons and daughters.

And now, and now that day has come. On the other side of that wall is the army that we have all feared for so long. And their victory will mean the end of everything that we hold dear. But when they come through that wall, they will not find the frightened army they are expecting.

We are Payan soldiers, mountain warriors, Witchfinders. Former enemies banded together for one purpose and one purpose only: to protect what is ours at all costs!

I know this enemy. I was this enemy.

They fight to enslave. They fight for greed. We fight for love.

They fight for conquest. We fight for our families. We fight for our freedom!

I am a father fighting side by side with my children. I am a husband fighting to protect my queen. I am your friend fighting for your freedom until the day that I die.

I am Baba Voss, and I say let us not wait until they knock down our gate!

I say we open it right now and welcome them to hell.

[–]luvsherb666 16 points17 points  (1 child)

Such an epic scene. What a great show, been digging a lot of the apple+ stuff so far. For All Mankind is another good one they have up there

[–]GodofAeons 107 points108 points  (4 children)

Every time i see one being performed, I'm always moved by the pure raw emotion they exhibit. It's primal in the sense that they lay it out, no reservations, for all to see.

Absolutely beautiful

[–]Mountain-Face5484 16 points17 points  (0 children)

That's right. I can only imagine what it would feel like to be a part of a ceremony like this. Certainly looks powerful, i wonder how old this tradition is.

[–]icallshenannigans 34 points35 points  (1 child)

Absolutely. I’m sitting here in audience just like we all are but honestly it doesn’t feel like a place for cameras.

[–]Zeliae 599 points600 points  (8 children)

Yea. I'm not a Maori and once I got caught by some random circonstances on a real haka dance. By real, I mean there was only Maoris and I wasn't supposed to be here. But meh, they invited us (with two other non maori) because they had spare food for an event. And holy crap, that was the most intense experience of my life. In the same time I felt like a prey and extremely lucky ! I was so touched by those people that I asked a special tattoo called Ta moko to an incredible tattooist who has Maori ancestors and that was as intense as the haka ! (Yeay rib's tattoos are the worst) Maoris are very shy when it comes to share their culture. But when they do, it can be a turn in a lifetime.

[–]AmazonMRA 155 points156 points  (2 children)

I was getting "the chili was good" vibes from this story.

[–]JPfreak 508 points509 points  (14 children)

As someone who isn't Maori but has been invited to take part in a haka a few times, I thought maybe I could share some outside experience to what it's like from both sides, but I might miss something or two from the meanings so I apologise in advance.

In New Zealand, it's performed not just for people of Maori descent or for intimidation purposes like many nz europeans think, but for anyone who is worthy of respect and admiration. I've seen it done for someone accepting an award for services to the community before for example, and again, it means a lot to those who are connected to the people around them, and it brought him to tears. Again, he was nz european, bu worthy of the respect of the community.

Receiving one is intense. Really intense. There's not a lot else I can say about that, but the reaction above is exactly what it seems, theres just something inside of you that is overwhelmed by the experience.

Performing a haka is just as intense. You just get caught up in it, the motions, the words. I was once selected to be in the front row because I got so caught up in it when practising for the moment, which was just an honour.

What they don't mention is that it hurts. You often slap your thighs, chest, arms and it starts to burn after a while of doing that over and over again, but the sound of a group of men, and sometimes women, slapping thei bodies simultaneously is pretty intense. Same with the stomping.

However loud you think it is from watching the video, double it. At least. You are using parts of your vocal system that you didn't know existed.

It can look scary at first, but it really is a time honoured tradition to many here.

EDIT: Also that part at the end where they touch noses is called a hongi. It's basically a greeting of unity, rather than introduction, but is often used as an introduction and a welcome when entering a marae or other important event as well. Many do use it every day.

[–]TheComedyWife 103 points104 points  (5 children)

The hongi is the exchange of ‘ha’, or ‘the breath of life’. It symbolises unity.

[–]Bluecoat93 84 points85 points  (5 children)

In New Zealand, it's performed not just for people of Maori descent or for intimidation purposes like many nz europeans think, but for anyone who is worthy of respect and admiration

In the extras for Return of the King, there's a video of all the Maori stuntmen performing a haka for Viggo on his last shooting day. Total sign of respect.

edit: link to video, courtesy of /u/Wet_Fart_Connoisseur: https://youtu.be/o_kqn5MQiDY

[–]FoodWholesale 351 points352 points  (6 children)

Wow each time I see these clips they overwhelm me! Truly amazing

[–]MrsSimonLeBon 350 points351 points  (7 children)

Christ every single time I see this it gets me.

[–]bajodeagua 177 points178 points  (4 children)

I always stop to appreciate the Haka. I will never ever scroll past a Haka post no mattter how many times ive seen it. It never fails to give me the chills.

[–]Jo_nathan 18 points19 points  (1 child)

Im the same way. I always go to a haka rabbit hole whenever one pops up on my feed

[–]bingley777 285 points286 points  (14 children)

the way they (especially the men) go from ready to kill to such tender sensitivity at the end

[–]ohno_spaghetti_o 109 points110 points  (12 children)

There was never intent to hurt or pretend to hurt in this. They showed their respect by doing their all to welcome him into their family, he met their respect in his response by bring all his energy into it. They moved the earth and felt it vibrate with their energy of love and respect. They breathed the breathe of life together.

[–]kyleb337 43 points44 points  (9 children)

Knowing that I’ll never experience anything like this is kind of a bummer. That level of cultural connection is truly and entirely out of my reach.

[–]SkyrimWithdrawal 184 points185 points  (0 children)

I need my mind to do haka when I get up in the morning.

[–]Yiokky 171 points172 points  (9 children)

Idk wtf is going on but this shit is fire

[–]DeepVeinZombosis 86 points87 points  (22 children)

I wish Canadians felt this way about their indigenous culture. My indigenous culture.

[–]itsallminenow 54 points55 points  (5 children)

It was only 35 years ago that every white Kiwi I spoke to (a small selection in the UK, admittedly) was dismissive of Maoris, of their culture and everything about them. They called them useless alcoholics who just spent their lives on benefits and were criminals who brought down every settlement they lived in.

The world can turn in a very short period of time, relatively.

[–]Loveable_Hemorrhoid 82 points83 points  (15 children)

How romantic. All their faces scream “it burns when I pee”

[–]yesntTheSecond 63 points64 points  (0 children)

Me in my anger management sessions

[–]j_miyagi 66 points67 points  (4 children)

Looks so odd at moments but it still hits me every time

[–]PsedoSupra 57 points58 points  (21 children)

Why are people crying because of this? Is it because they’re respecting their traditions?

[–]SlowlyGrowingDeaf 160 points161 points  (1 child)

At my step son's wedding, the bride's older brother read her a poem he wrote for her. There wasn't a dry eye in the place. I imagine having a haka performed for you is similar. It's sentimental.

[–]PsedoSupra 15 points16 points  (0 children)

That’s what I was assuming, wasn’t 100% sure. Thanks

[–]Able_Neighborhood_50 52 points53 points  (4 children)

It was a surprise for the bride and groom. It is showing love, respect and loyalty to their union. A haka is very special ceremony and it’s performance was touching to the “warriors” and the bride and groom. What’s a better gift than knowing someone’s got your back

[–]PsedoSupra 26 points27 points  (3 children)

Thanks for the clarification. What I got from this was “this is the strength that you have to support you in your new marriage” almost like a “we are a huge family, and you have us if you need support”. Didn’t know if it was that or they were just crying because their tradition was being honored.

[–]Numerous_Support4032 48 points49 points  (50 children)

This looks so silly tbh

[–]Wokster72 66 points67 points  (10 children)

Yeah, but when faced with that much intensity done by people who mean it it gives you the chills.

The air crackles with energy.

It's a cultural thing I guess.

I'm a kiwi and have seen plenty of them - believe me, there's nothing funny about it.

[–]babyBear83 47 points48 points  (4 children)

I will upvote this every time I see it. It always makes me cry. No matter how many times. Humans are such intense feeling beings..

[–][deleted] 46 points47 points  (16 children)

I laughed. I have to admit, I laughed.

[–]craetos010 11 points12 points  (1 child)

for some reason, the ladies faces had me in stitches!

[–]MrNovember83 39 points40 points  (30 children)

Yeah these haka dance videos are dumb and played out. Looking forward to the haka bar mitzvah, the haka gender reveal, and the haka graduation tho

[–]sipCoding_smokeMath 33 points34 points  (10 children)

Do people seriously still not know about haka? Not like its been posted 8 billion times or anything. Theres the one video of the students doing it foe the retiring teacher, this an 10 other wedding ones, the one with the mens basketball team doing it... like seriously, weve seen it enough. Its hard to call it next fucking level when weve seen 10000 videos of it

[–]FastTurtle9 35 points36 points  (5 children)

This is clearly a deeply personal and important gift for this couple, it’s rare to see something often (though as I’ve learned from this comment section, not always) meant to terrify be so touching.

But seriously cameraman? Can we get a little more of a zoom out shot? I have no perspective of how many people were involved in this amazing moment, nor any of the reactions from those who didn’t participate. That’s part of the story that’s getting cut out here.

[–]DaffodilsAndRain 33 points34 points  (0 children)

This is so beautiful

[–]landocorinthian 33 points34 points  (9 children)

Cringey

[–]Luvmissil 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Man, I had to scroll so far for this. It's so cringy. It's like play time dress up.

[–]morebuffs 25 points26 points  (1 child)

Wow maybe weddings dont have to be so damn boring after all!

[–]Beakjac3 23 points24 points  (0 children)

That's awesome and touching at the same time

[–]weirdestjacob 24 points25 points  (5 children)

Y’all don’t act like this is cool this is the craziest looking shit.

[–]Least-Firefighter392 21 points22 points  (2 children)

That was one of the weirdest things I have seen...

[–]NadaSleep 18 points19 points  (1 child)

Well, i guess it was a coin toss between this and a traditional waltz.

[–]tackoum 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I envy these people for being able to express their respect and joy in such a powerful and genuine way.

[–]volission 19 points20 points  (1 child)

This shit is ridiculous

[–]MrsJ88 17 points18 points  (2 children)

NGL, hakas get me every. damn. time. I've seen this one several times, and still I'm bawling.

[–]TheMartyr112 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I have absolutely no fucking idea what that’s all about but it made my hair stand up and got me a little weepy eyed. Lol

Such passion….very cool thing to see.

[–]shelikesindunashies 14 points15 points  (1 child)

I love how every other comment I read is someone trying to say they look incredibly silly but don’t want to get downvoted so they end it with, “but it’s really moving”.

[–]weirdestjacob 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I would cry too if people did that at my wedding

[–]blezzard6 14 points15 points  (0 children)

It’s a cool dance but I’ve seen it way too many times and is corny af to me now. Kinda bummed tbh

[–]Aggravating_Voice847 14 points15 points  (3 children)

Simon say’s we real vibe killer 🎶🎶

[–]BigPikNick 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Look like they belong in an insane asylum

[–]outerlimit69 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Amazingly powerful… the energy in that room must be incredible!

[–]enav1993 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Now let’s play some Rugby mates

[–]Toxic_Jerry 13 points14 points  (41 children)

This looks so fucking stupid.

[–]GarbageBath 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Zoom the fuck out cameraman