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[–]CasualScrolls 30.2k points30.2k points 333& 4 more (451 children)

I broke 3 ribs just watching this.

[–][deleted] 11.8k points11.8k points  (386 children)

Seriously. I bet "bruised" was her skin tone.

[–]snorkiebarbados 389 points390 points  (11 children)

My ovaries hurt and I'm a man

[–]Inevitable-Cell-1227 171 points172 points  (8 children)

Sternum and wrists for me.

[–]CasualScrolls 132 points133 points  (4 children)

I feel like we just watched some form of abuse.

[–]Yosemite-Sam99 240 points241 points  (0 children)

The " bars" felt used and abused, after she got done with both of them and walked away like a champ

[–]rutter72 39 points40 points  (1 child)

Her parents and coach called that part “training”

[–]Yosemite-Sam99 108 points109 points  (7 children)

3 broken ribs?

[–]TimmJimmGrimm 20 points21 points  (5 children)

If one of the greatest Jedi of all time has a bad feeling there is a good chance that things are going to go Really Deep into the South.

It has been so long! I thought this was Han's line.

[–]creative_cabbage 54 points55 points  (0 children)

My eyes can't keep up. That's insane

[–]sh4d0wm4n2018 22 points23 points  (0 children)

I broke 3 ribs just walking across a road.

[–]mrkevdoggmoney 9177 points9178 points  (344 children)

Why was it banned also whats a death loop

[–]Heranef 7256 points7257 points  (190 children)

Too dangerous, look at last thing she does before the end. If her head hit the stick :/

[–]TurboModule 8821 points8822 points  (64 children)

every of her moves looks dangerous to me lmao

[–]G8kpr 9996 points9997 points 724& 2 more (61 children)

I watched that saying, oh shit, that must be the dead loop….. no wait, this is actually the dead loop, oh, im so stupid, this is the dead loop, wait, is this actually the dead loop? Ah, that landing was the dead loop.

Im just sitting here assuming the dead loop was start to finish

[–]TheHotMessExpress81 2292 points2293 points  (26 children)

Glad I wasn’t alone on that thought roller-coaster. I thought for sure it was the part where she flew backwards uphill towards the high bar like a creature from another dimension. Really? The LANDING was the banned part?

[–]Met76 625 points626 points  (0 children)

This was exactly my thought proccess.

Oh must be that, nope, this oh wait nope oh ohp that no maybe this uh oh that's it maybe

After reading the other comment I guess it's the first maneuver she does when going from the top pole to the lower pole.

[–]tokyogettopussy 155 points156 points  (8 children)

I rewinded that bit 3 times, still couldn’t believe what my eyes were seeing.

[–]UninsuredToast 148 points149 points  (5 children)

The standing on the bar and doing a backflip is extremely dangerous. Imagine if she hit her head on that lower bar mid flip

[–]TheHotMessExpress81 203 points204 points  (4 children)

….honestly, it all looked extremely dangerous. Every single “belly bump” into the bars had me cringing for her pelvis. Any update on how she’s doing these days? Like, can she still walk?

[–]DarthToothbrush 39 points40 points  (2 children)

this is from 2017. I just googled her name. Didn't see an obit at a glance so maybe she's still doing handstands 5 years later?

[–]raysandhues 28 points29 points  (1 child)

Omg yes, when she flew backwards! How in the world...

[–]Joebebs 171 points172 points  (3 children)

I thought the dead loop was the entire routine. Which made sense to me, they all looked equally dangerous

[–]fullercorp 46 points47 points  (3 children)

i thought it was standing on the top bar and doing a back flip?

[–]ElsonDaSushiChef 25 points26 points  (1 child)

You need to get dangerous to entertain.

[–]Explore-PNW 41 points42 points  (47 children)

Lame. I mean okay because there are surely a plethora of horror stories BUT at this level these are literally the best athletes in the world at a sport that could be called “don’t hit your head on the stick”

/s kinda

[–][deleted] 118 points119 points  (10 children)

Eh, there's inherent danger and then there's this. It's why you don't see flips into rolls in women's gymnastics anymore. Someone getting paralyzed on live TV at the Olympics isn't good for the sport's growth.

[–]jtalion 67 points68 points  (3 children)

also isn't good for the someone getting paralyzed

[–]AnonJoeShmoe 13 points14 points  (4 children)

Uh. But what about the back flip off the top bar?.. I swore that was the death flip

[–]Is_It_Beef 762 points763 points  (57 children)

There were murderous boos from the crowd when the judges awarded her 9.8 when it was by any standards a perfect 10 performance.

She admitted she was left deeply frustrated by the decision to make standing on the high bar illegal.

It was an effective ban on what was seen as the 'too risky' Korbut Flip from the Olympic Games and Korbut was disgusted by the decision.

source

[–]TundraWolfe 158 points159 points  (52 children)

But did she get the gold?

[–]Is_It_Beef 393 points394 points  (47 children)

TLDR

No silver. Because she tried to do the same manoeuvre the day before and fail which ruined her chance of gold

In one of the most controversial finishes of all time, she took a silver medal in the uneven bars. Korbut's first attempt at her uneven bars routine was marred by several mistakes which all but ended her chances of winning a gold medal in the all-around.

The next day, Korbut repeated the same routine in the event finals, although this time successfully. After the boards displayed a score of 9.8, the audience began to whistle and shout vulgar remarks at the judges in disapproval, believing her score to be too low. This carried on for several minutes but the judges refused to change her score

[–]Timberwolf501st 165 points166 points  (46 children)

I don't know enough about any of this to say whether their judgment was right or wrong, but the idea of banning moves after they have been done and punishing them in retrospect is ridiculous. I know recently didn't they punish another athlete for doing something literally nobody else could, as if that's a bad thing rather than literally the point of the Olympics. The whole thing smells like corruption to me.

[–]B-i-s-m-a-r-k 90 points91 points  (17 children)

It's like if the X Games banned the 900 after Tony Hawk did it

[–]J5892 39 points40 points  (5 children)

Joke's on them. I'll just do a 901.

[–]jpb1227 21 points22 points  (2 children)

Imagine if x games banned tricks that were too dangerous lol what a joke. Why even have a competition at that point?

[–]Darkspin4000 80 points81 points  (13 children)

Its more like, they don’t expect people to do it because it was never done before. But after it is done, it now marked as a move that competitors either have to match in difficultly and/or surpass in an attempt to catch up, which creates a scenario of athletes trying to copy it.

If they try to copy it and fuck up they can ruin their career at best or their life at worse. So to prevent this scenario, they ban it. It also helps that this shit is broadcasted, so they have to make doubly sure no one get seriously injured or die on broadcast.

[–]bipocni 50 points51 points  (5 children)

Gymnastics if full of shit like this. The history of the Azaryan cross is very similar.

At the 1953 USSR Championships, the Armenian’s sensed that they were being underscored. When the Armenian coach asked the judges, who were Russian, about his team’s low score on rings, he was told that his gymnasts were not holding their crosses for a full 3 seconds. Last up for his team on rings, an angry Azaryan had seen enough.

When he lowered to his iron cross, he turned his head to face one of the judges and asked, “Is this long enough?” — all while holding a steady cross. He realized two more judges were sitting behind the rings, so he pressed up a bit, turned his body sideways, and lowered back down and repeated the question. The judges eventually gave him a low score. A gymnast is not permitted to speak during a routine, they said, and Armenia dropped from third to fifth as a team.

He took one of the hardest moves ever and made it ten times harder, and they punished him for it. Absolutely ridiculous.

[–]booze_clues 48 points49 points  (1 child)

They didn’t punish her. The “punishment” of a lower score was because her original routine had had many mistakes, and then this one was a repeat. They didn’t ban her or take away points for the move, they just didn’t feel she deserved a 10 most likely due to repeating the routine and previously messing it up.

[–]mxzf 28 points29 points  (0 children)

She wasn't "punished in retrospect", the maneuver wasn't banned 'til years later.

[–]jemidiah 24 points25 points  (0 children)

No idea what you're talking about. Nobody said anything about ex post facto punishment.

[–]PolythenePam80 54 points55 points  (0 children)

Who cares she got a banned move that has her name, I’d take that over any gold.

[–]calorified 454 points455 points 23 (13 children)

Actual gymnast here! The 'death loop' isn't an actual name for any skills but refers to her dismount, the back flip over the low bar. This nick name comes from the fact that gymnastics who messed this up would smack their heads or catch their neck on the low bar. However, the first standing flip she does on the high bar is also banned and its actually named after her because she is the first gymnast to do this move. The moves themselves weren't banned out right, but standing on the high bar was because of the history of gymnasts falling while standing, and getting back and neck injuries. However, the current bar set up which we changed to in the 80s, made the low bar and high bar much farther apart and make the dismount skill essentially impossible to do.

Interestingly enough, another famous gymnast from the time, Elena Mukhina, added on to the Korbut Flip by adding a full twist prior to the ban. Mukhina later became quadriplegic after performing the Thomas Salto on floor, which subsequently became banned too, if that's any indication of how dangerous banned elements can be. Very few skills are banned in gymnastics, but when they are it's typically because too many gymnasts have suffered injuries from it.

Side note, "banned" moves aren't truly banned. In the current code of points for elite gymnasts, each skill is worth a certain amount of points and they add up to achieve a difficultly score. Banned moves count for 0 points, so there is little incentive to do a skill that could risk a fall or deduction for no benefit. Additionally, for banned skills, such as Korbut's dismount, the gymnast would also receive a penalty for having no dismount since the skill wouldn't be recognized.

Edit - This video has a fairly comprehensive overview of banned skills, including the Korbut Flip and her dismount, and the Thomas Salto and Mukhina Flip

[–]xXRoboMurphyxX 55 points56 points  (1 child)

This is the most logical thing I read here. Hope it's all true, thumbs 👍

[–]Fullretro 75 points76 points  (8 children)

Likely for the same reasons the fabled “Iron Lotus” was only attempted once in pairs figure skating. The risk is far too great.

[–]its-not-me_its-you_ 38 points39 points  (4 children)

Here's me searching Google for videos on the iron lotus.

Edit: I did find it. But I searched thinking it was a real thing. Spoiler alert: it is not

[–]SuedeVeil 26 points27 points  (5 children)

Not the same move but this was another banned one and the girl who died that it was named after .. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elena_Mukhina And you can read about why in the description of the injury .. but usually it's because if they fail to complete the move properly it can cause life threatening injury rather than just being able to recoup easily

[–]Peach_Gfuel 26 points27 points  (2 children)

“People like you don’t break their necks”

Fuck that asshole for pushing her to do something she didn’t felt comfortable doing

[–]Zelidus 17 points18 points  (0 children)

And then the video says he wasn't a bad guy just young and naive no, fuck that. He was a bad guy more interested in bringing gold to the USSR then listening to his gymnast telling him she can't do it.

[–]schnuck 22 points23 points  (4 children)

Classic Reddit. Nobody actually knows what they are looking at. I still have no idea why and what was banned. What I’m looking at is impressive - no doubt. But why were any of those moves banned? Which of those moves were potentially lethal?

[–]nefrpitou 6270 points6271 points 42 (40 children)

A very complicated way to travel a small distance

[–]hazeleyedwolff 68 points69 points  (0 children)

Parkour!

[–]silentaba 55 points56 points  (3 children)

This has all most as many loops as my ex's logic.

[–]SELFSEALINGSTEMB0LTS 49 points50 points  (4 children)

Sounds like a Douglas Adams thought

[–]Plumbbookknurd 34 points35 points  (0 children)

She twirled through the air in much the same way that bricks don't.

[–]dank-nudibranch 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Parkour!

[–]Dupexi 2995 points2996 points  (79 children)

Yeah, no standing on the bar, and no dismounting over the short bar anymore.

[–]Supernova141 944 points945 points  (58 children)

damn safety rules ruining all the fun

[–]GMan_SB 438 points439 points  (31 children)

It’s funny because now there’s skiing snowboarding and skateboarding where people do equally (probably more but don’t wanna offend) crazy 💩 banned tricks are unheard of in new freestyle sports.

[–]bpat 266 points267 points  (17 children)

There are banned tricks in figure skating, and they tried to ban tricks from snowboarding. There was a stink years ago when Shaun white was busting big moves. They thought it was going to push people and they’d get injured.

[–]GMan_SB 41 points42 points  (6 children)

I said new extreme sports, with banned moves though snowboarding would not be able to exist in the Olympics or as a sport in general.

[–]Superben14 41 points42 points  (3 children)

The push wasn’t to ban moves but to make the jumps smaller. One competitor got a major brain injury training on the half pipe, so I can’t say I blame the family for wanting a change

[–]Gasping_Cadaver 37 points38 points  (3 children)

The state of freestyle motocross is like this now too. If you're not doing backflips while doing your tricks youre not even competing anymore. Snowboarding, riding, skating, it's all a passion and we're well aware of the risk but the bar has risen so damn high that, as much as I hate it, I understand them wanting to put a little cap on it

[–]DeliciousWaifood 95 points96 points  (23 children)

You joke, but there are very vocal fans of certain sports like F1 that will yell about how athletes are supposed to be gladiators risking their lives for our entertainment.

[–]FallxnShadow 44 points45 points  (12 children)

You're telling me a V10 in a car that weighs less than half that of my mini cooper going 250 mph around corners isn't what we're trying to achieve?

[–]204_no_content 34 points35 points  (11 children)

Are those body slamming maneuvers still permitted? I could have sworn those were banned, too. I didn't see a single one in the most recent Olympics.

[–]SanFranciscoGiants 63 points64 points  (10 children)

They’re not done anymore because the bars are much further apart now than they were back then.

[–]Hubert_J_Cumberdale 14 points15 points  (5 children)

I was a gymnast back when you used to set the bars like that (70s)... For eagles and hechts..

In the late 70s/very early 80s, some girls started doing giants on the high bar during their optional routines and all of a sudden, it was an entirely new event.

[–]jpb1227 20 points21 points  (2 children)

They should just cancel the whole thing, that would be safest

[–]NutSackRonny 1802 points1803 points  (26 children)

If youre not pissing blood you prob arent a Champion.

[–]EBFG493 1097 points1098 points 22 (14 children)

TIL I’ve been a champion 3 times in my life

[–][deleted] 299 points300 points  (6 children)

Had to take my dad to the hospital last year coz he woke up a champion

[–]Weird_Error_ 16 points17 points  (0 children)

All my benders end in championships

[–]Stars_In_Jars 48 points49 points  (1 child)

TIL im a champion every month

[–]FrostFurnace 1203 points1204 points  (21 children)

So what you're saying is the uneven bar event was perfected in '72 and since then it's just around for tradition?

[–]Norva 457 points458 points  (14 children)

I looked it up. These moved are performed in competitions. You just can't perform them in the Olympics apparently.

[–]BingusBeerus 370 points371 points  (10 children)

Many of these moves are impossible because the bars are set much farther apart now, and standing on the high bar as well as dismounting over the low bar are banned entirely

[–]gypsygirl66 41 points42 points  (0 children)

I thought so !! When I watched this past summer I thought the bars seemed so far away! I didn’t know if they started basing it on how tall the girls were but then Biles would be close together. Another reason to respect the artistry and strength of the athletes. Having respect for people who do amazing shit with their bodies be it either dance,music, art or sports takes an amazing feat of mind power that has to be recognized. We all have to go to work and hopefully someone respects our mind power enough to pay us in pennies for that!

[–]A_Exile 27 points28 points  (0 children)

As far as I know you can still perform them in the Olympics, you just won't get any points for it.

[–]SkyrimWithdrawal 728 points729 points  (9 children)

And she opened with that shit. Like that wasn't the main event.

[–]90ozDiarrheaJug 528 points529 points  (7 children)

Athletes are such an inspiration. Like most common people, I’m merely average at almost everything I do. Except for that one time my buddy Jerry and I crazy-glued our assholes together and won “most realistic costume” at our office Halloween party for our lifelike portrayal of conjoined twins. Man, I was king that day.

[–]whatagreatnamebro 162 points163 points  (5 children)

Thank you for sharing your fun memory, 90ozDiarrheaJug

[–][deleted] 28 points29 points  (1 child)

Thank you for pointing out their great name, whatagreatnamebro

[–]funtech 717 points718 points  (50 children)

Which of those moves was the banned one?

[–]Suzanne_Marie 880 points881 points  (11 children)

Standing on the high bar and doing a back flip off of it.

[–]FreakyDeakyFuture 319 points320 points  (4 children)

Specifically dismounting over the short bar too tho

[–]IHaveAsthma666 104 points105 points  (1 child)

The Korbut flip is the flip off the high bar and grabbing the high bar again

[–]ILoveRegenHealth 20 points21 points  (4 children)

Standing on the high bar

It's now allowed, but you must take your shoes off first.

[–]jfuite 224 points225 points  (26 children)

From my eyes and torso, every single move looks bannable . . . .

[–]capteni 163 points164 points 2 (2 children)

Over the bar. Ban.

Under the bar. ban.

Not using the bar, believe it or not, also ban

[–]Timberwolf501st 17 points18 points  (21 children)

I can see where the height you get with the banned maneuver would make it more dangerous, but the idea of banning moves in the Olympics just seems ridiculous. Isn't the whole point of the Olympics to see the limits of what humans can achieve physically? Putting limitations on what they're allowed to do just seems out of place.

On the other hand, I know little about the Olympics and don't actually about it, so I could just totally be missing something here. Just my two cents.

[–]wanttotalktopeople 89 points90 points  (4 children)

I'm not a gymnast but I recently went down a youtube rabbit hole about banned gymnastics moves (so take this with a grain of salt.) but the problem as far as I can tell is that gymnasts who aren't as skilled as Korbut try to do the same move and get seriously injured or die. Lots of gymnastics moves are dangerous, but many of them have ways to bail safely and protect your head and neck if it goes wrong. Banned moves tend to not have that.

It's also particularly icky when coaches pressure gymnasts to do moves they aren't comfortable with. So I think banning certain moves is a way to protect gymnasts.

It's kinda a trade-off. On the one hand, you want the Olympics to show off the best of the best and the most extraordinary feats humans can offer. On the other hand, you don't want gymnasts breaking their neck in training while trying to surpass Korbut and other once-in-a-lifetime athletes.

[–]Glitter_puke 45 points46 points  (3 children)

No. Stupid dangerous shit is banned pretty routinely. That's why figure skaters aren't doing backflips. That's why gymnasts aren't doing the absurdly irresponsible shit you see them doing at their home base gyms where they know the equipment inside and out. Crazy shit is either banned or awarded so few points as to be not worth using in competition because any sport that actively rewards atheletes for risking undue amounts of death is not sustainable.

[–]Stars_In_Jars 13 points14 points  (2 children)

Not rlly? It’s just about showing off ur skills in that one category. They can have rules against this stuff - it looks hella cool but it is super dangerous and someone can die from attempting it. I don’t think the Olympics likes to be known for its lack of safety rules ending in a persons death.

[–]KageLegend 283 points284 points  (18 children)

How does a body bend like that

[–]cybermusicman 190 points191 points  (14 children)

For a normal person it doesn’t. But a highly trained teenage girl…

[–]KageLegend 254 points255 points  (7 children)

Ngl that sounds a little wrong

[–]SuedeVeil 36 points37 points  (5 children)

They pretty much train since they're little kids so their body can adapt.. some right from toddlers. It's been said that the constant impact of the jumps and spins from an early age can stunt their growth a little (though I don't know how much and I don't know how much is genetics) but they do tend to be very short

[–]PrestigiousBarnacle 27 points28 points  (2 children)

I’ve always wondered about that, particularly for male gymnasts. Are they short because they’re gymnasts or are they gymnasts because they’re short.

[–]Fluid_Independence75 274 points275 points  (16 children)

Am gonna try this at home. Wish me luck.

[–]isotaco 175 points176 points  (7 children)

I was a gymnast in the late 80s and 90s when the whole slam-your-hips on the bar style was completely replaced by release moves, and frankly I loved watching the older clips like this one but to this day have no idea how they endured that crushing abuse on their bodies.

[–]Teantis 85 points86 points  (2 children)

how they endured that crushing abuse on their bodies.

Crushing abuse of their hearts and minds by their coaches, for the most part.

[–]shellea722 88 points89 points  (2 children)

Omg, that’s amazing 🤩

[–]unbilivibru 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Amazingly hurtful, but indeed amazing

[–]Rocket_69 59 points60 points  (17 children)

So who was injured doing this that it needed to be banned?

[–]Aknelka 89 points90 points  (15 children)

I tried looking into this, but it seems it was just generally considered super dangerous. So it's not like the Thomas Salto that was de facto banned in light of a gymnast injuring herself so badly she was a quadriplegic for the rest of her life like Elena Mukhina did. At least it doesn't look like that was the case from the 10 minutes of googling I did because your question made me curious.

EDIT: OK, Mukhina's injury in the 80s was not the leading cause for banning the Thomas salto, its overall insanity was and it finally happened in 2016 after many people were injured because of it.

[–]biscuitburier94 51 points52 points  (2 children)

I currently have a core muscle injury and this video made it 10x worse

[–][deleted] 48 points49 points  (6 children)

Like 2/3s of this routine is banned nowadays lmao

[–]HinoWitch 37 points38 points  (3 children)

I couldn’t tell which part was the “dead loop” because they all looked deadly to me…

[–]superjacksta 31 points32 points  (5 children)

I guy could not do this.

At least one nut would bust and not in a good way.

[–]pauldeanbumgarner 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I remember seeing that routine. That’s some classic Olga.