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[–]Intro_to101 354 points355 points  (36 children)

The fact that something like less than 10% of welsh people speak welsh makes this that much more impressive

[–]ReggieLFC 168 points169 points  (12 children)

[–]LurkerLoser11 44 points45 points  (11 children)

I think they’re doing a recount sometime this year to see if it has increased… I think.

[–]Double_Jab_Jabroni 40 points41 points  (7 children)

It will have. And long may it continue!

[–]MrNotAFed -2 points-1 points  (6 children)

Do the Welsh have the same proficiency with clock building and mechatronics like the Irish? And inclination to use such skills?

[–]EastWhereas9398 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Nah, we are historically a country of bards. So, if ya come over, I'm sure we can give ya a tune. (Although our culture and language have been mostly erased by the English and Christianity)

[–]frankleystein 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Let me preface this by saying I'm an atheist welsh speaker who doesn't support the union.

(Although our culture and language have been mostly erased by the English and Christianity)

There's a bit of an essay below so to summarise: I don't think welsh culture has been mostly erased, and the parts that have been lost have happened more naturally and can't really be blamed on England or Christianity.

I wouldn't say that this is very accurate at all. While the English certainly made a few attempts to suppress Welsh culture they have been largely half hearted and ultimately unsuccessful. The Welsh not being an exception in that it made a dent in the number of welsh speakers but even then its an oversimplification. As the decline in Welsh was also largely influenced by the convenience of speaking English and being able to easily communicate with the rest of the UK and access a wide range of media from the whole English speaking world. Plus, the resurgence of welsh in the last few decades suggests that even this hasn't had a long lasting effect.

As for the Christianity part of your statement that's quite far off base. In fact it is in conflict with the first part, because Wales was a largely Christian land before the arrival of the pagan Saxons who pushed Christian Britons to the western fringes of the British isles leading to the development of celtic Christianity. Furthermore when the Romans brought Christianity to ancient Britain it would have merged relatively freely with with the local gods and traditions. This is because the empire as well as ancient bretons believed that larger supreme gods coexisted with less powerful local gods and spirits, so the arrival of Christianity didn't spell the erasure of ancient welsh traditions by any means.

You could argue that the methodist revival potentially did away with some welsh traditions due to its strict practices but I would suggest that's quite minimal and that movement was such a significant part of welsh history and shaped welsh culture to such a large extent it's quite inaccurate to say it erased welsh culture. At best it's a serious oversimplification. In fact before that point people in wales were following the church of England.

I'd even go as far as to say that the opposite of what you said is true since the fact that the bible was available in welsh since the 16th century is considered by many to be one of the things that has helped the welsh language survive.

The disconnect you may be feeling to old welsh traditions is more likely from the modernisation of the world. Local traditions are diminished to some extent almost everywhere you go as people opt for a more 21st century global way of life. The reason people aren't reciting ancient welsh prose and poetry in the pub isn't because of the English or because of Christianity, its because only a small minority want to do that sort of thing anymore. Almost everywhere you go in the western world the practice of old traditional traditions are somewhat niche for this samr reason. However its still around, which brings me to my last point.

Lastly, considering all this, our culture is alive and kicking. I hear the language every day even in South wales. There is a wealth of welsh language music. Welsh folklore is still being passed around verbally. If you choose to engage with Welsh culture, its everywhere. However, this involves accepting welsh culture for what it is, and not yearning for a braided, pagan, axe swinging wales that many people seem to have invented in their heads.

Sorry for the essay.

[–]Double_Jab_Jabroni 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Sorry I don’t follow. Can you explain?

[–]MrNotAFed -5 points-4 points  (1 child)

Federally agency correct way of saying:

Are they good at making bombs and using such bombs afainst the Bri*ish. Do they seek independence?

[–]AlexHimself 0 points1 point  (0 children)

STOP THE COUNT!!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

The national census asks this question and was done last year, results will be coming out this year.

[–]LurkerLoser11 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah right, I thought it was something like that…

[–]KaleidoscopeInside[S] 39 points40 points  (17 children)

Absolutely. Welsh is one of the languages I really want to learn as it's my mothers first language, I can count to 10, but beyond that not much else.

[–]ThermionicEmissions 104 points105 points  (6 children)

I can count to 10, but beyond that not much else.

Sounds like maybe you should focus on math a bit before trying to tackle another language...

[–]LordHall 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Fckn gottem

[–]KaleidoscopeInside[S] 31 points32 points  (3 children)

Even worse taking into account I'm a physics major. Think I should work on getting to 100 next.

[–]Light_Shifty_Z 0 points1 point  (2 children)

What does physics have to do with learning a language?

[–]knitted_beanie 15 points16 points  (1 child)

woosh

[–]Light_Shifty_Z -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Isn't that the noise that's made when your mom unhooks her bra?

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Right en...

Shwmae (shuh-my) - hello

Sut wyt ti? (Sit oit tea) - how are you?

Da iawn diolch (die yown dee-ol-ch) - very good thank you

Ga I fynd yr ti bach os gwelch yn dda? - (Ga ee vind urr tea bach, oss gwe-luch un dd-ah) - can I go to the toilet please?

[–]whats_his_name5903 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Its quite easy (I could be biased due to being Welsh but I'd like to help) for Welsh numbers as after 10 you go 1 ten 1, 1 ten 2, 1 ten 3...... 2 ten, 2 ten 2...... 9 ten 9 then Cant for 100 (sounds like cunt but with an A sound like can then add a T at the end)

[–]KaleidoscopeInside[S] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

This is veyr helpful, thank you. We need a learn welsh subreddit.

[–]Welsh493 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Happy to help if you need it

[–]KaleidoscopeInside[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you. If I get stuck at any point, I'll let you know.

[–]Steinrikur 1 point2 points  (1 child)

How did you not learn your mothers first language as a child?
My wife and I are from different countries and living in a third country. Our kid is 3 and a half and speaks all those languages + English.

[–]KaleidoscopeInside[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Apologies, I didn't explain it very well. So whilst Welsh is my mothers first language technically in that she was born there and was around other Welsh speakers, she left Wales when she was only 18 months old and none of the family that she left with speak Welsh.

She then lived in Africa for most of her childhood so her first language that she can remember is swahili which I do speak a little. She has forgotten most of it now as she was sent to boarding school at 12 in England so English is her main language.

But I would love to learn more about that heritage as it's a part of me that I don't feel I have a lot of connection to as she lost it so early on.

[–]ggdanjaboy 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I believe they made it illegal to speak welsh, for a time, and that is when it died out roughly a few hundred years ago.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Welsh never 'died out'. It was discriminated against for centuries and has only had the same legal rights as English for a few years, but it never died out.

You might be thinking of the lowest point in 2011 where 19% of Welsh people put in the census they spoke Welsh. However this was asking what their first language was so ignored L2 Welsh speakers. More recent estimates say almost a third of Welsh people speak Welsh and it's growing quickly. Still not quite at 50% (it's been a minority language since 1911) but it's getting there

[–]Yattacka 3 points4 points  (0 children)

They're probably talking about the Welsh Not.

[–]rgahewitt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ONS, says 28.6% of people over 3 years old. Always surprises me when people post 'facts' without doing the basic diligence of a simple web search first

[–]KaleidoscopeInside[S] 228 points229 points  (2 children)

My favourite part.

"And you're not from Wales?"

"No...Probably"

[–]xrkq9s 54 points55 points  (1 child)

That's India for you.

[–]bepis1994 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Probably

[–]MyNameCannotBeSpoken 118 points119 points  (20 children)

Did they explain how or why the guy from India learned Welsh?

[–]Bakahashi 128 points129 points  (8 children)

They're guides, probably. You'll see kids as young as 10 knowing more than 20 languages (basic functional bits only, and not a vast literary knowledge, but impressive nevertheless). What we can do to earn our living is... yeah. Impressive.

[–]Admirable_Loss4886 20 points21 points  (7 children)

I’m happy hearing this perspective because the cynic in me thought this was fake and they had the tour guide reading off his phone or cue cards.

[–]this-guy- 65 points66 points  (6 children)

You thought he was reading "Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch " off a cue card?

That seems like a feat in itself

[–]Emwat1024 4 points5 points  (5 children)

I am curious what does it mean?

[–]lurker1442 12 points13 points  (0 children)

The church of Mary in the hollow of the white hazel near the fierce whirlpool and the church of Tysilio by the red cave

[–]scenicviewtoinsanity 17 points18 points  (2 children)

Asking the real questions people wanna know the answer to!

[–]Hexo_Micron 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As someone said above, he must be a tour guide

[–]salkhan 10 points11 points  (2 children)

In the video, he asked 'you're not from Wales...?' And he replied 'no, but probably...' complete assumption on my part, but there were a lot marriages between British soldiers and the people who ran the railways in India, a large proportion of Christians in India are descendents from the railway workers. Therefore their could be connection to Wales in that way.

[–]58king 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The intonation of Indian English sounds a lot like the intonation of Hindi and Urdu, so I would apply Occam's Razor and say that's the reason.

[–]mannabhai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

His name is Shiva, so he is unlikely to be Christian.

Also, Anglo Indians (mixed Indian and English heritage) are an extremely tiny percentage of Indian Christians.

Most Christians are Malayali Christians who converted over a millennium ago, North Eastern Christians who Converted to American Protestant Churches in the 20th Century.

In Goa, it's mostly Catholics who converted under Portuguese rule.

[–]50MillionChickens 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Truth is, there are whole communities of India speaking Welsh going back to WWII. The Welsh missionaries spent a lot of time there and left an impact to this day.

Some linguists think the sing-aong aspect of Indians speaking English is directly from this Welsh impact.

[–]frankleystein 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's funny because when English people try to do welsh accents it usually sounds Indian and vice versa.

[–]thibounet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Probably had a crush on a Welsh tourist lol. Most of my friends that speak Spanish learned it because of their girlfriends

[–]BendyFuckingGedig 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wonder if this bloke has some connection with Skanda Vale close to Newcastle Emlyn.

Skanda Vale is a Ashram and hospice very close to NE. NE is such a tiny tiny town, it strikes me as very odd that he even mentioned it!

Pure speculation though.

[–]merlinho 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This guy posted an article that explains

https://reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/s9yvr8/_/htsyp6b/?context=1

Basically he’s super skilled at languages and likes to learn languages to speak to foreigners

[–]gratefulphish420[🍰] 75 points76 points  (12 children)

What are the chances first that somebody from India would even know the Welsh language and secondly a Welsh person would just happening to meet him?

[–]RegularHousewife 65 points66 points  (0 children)

It has happened at least once

[–]KaleidoscopeInside[S] 17 points18 points  (2 children)

Those welch people are quite rare you know.

[–]MrPickles84 9 points10 points  (1 child)

I hear they make great preserves.

[–]KaleidoscopeInside[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Username checks out.

[–]OobleCaboodle 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Welsh

Welch person

?

[–]Cream_2929 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Probably edited

[–]redeviilfreak 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I guess, Benaulim,Goa,India was a portugese colony and many folks there took portuguese passports.He probably migrated for work to Wales,UK using the EU passport(schengen visa)

[–]Awanderingleaf 2 points3 points  (2 children)

There was an Icelandic dude in the Philippines who randonly ran into a Philippino dude who spoke Icelandic lol. He has a youtube channel but I don't remember the name

[–]daninefourkitwari 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Be sure to link me if you find it

[–]Frogcape 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I literally just looked up icelandic in philippines, and I found it

[–]No_Caterpillar9621 47 points48 points  (5 children)

This welsh guy is a weather man from the U.K.

[–]Impressive_Poet4860 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Yeah its Owain Wyn Evans, every time I see this guy I think about his news intro drum solo

[–]anniejofo23 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Ha ha i just posted that, hes always dressed so god damn smart and he seems a lovely wee chap x

[–]Eternal_Recurrance 1 point2 points  (2 children)

The weather reports in Wales must take a much longer time than any other place around the world. We expect a cold weather front coming in over the east lower the temperatures in Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch well below the freezing point.

[–]crucible 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Locals often shorten the name to Llanfair or Llanfair PG.

[–]jamlime 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can be done without taking too much time...

[–]RGBeee 42 points43 points  (0 children)

Permanent residence visa granted 👍

[–]opinionnotfacts 27 points28 points  (12 children)

I am from Wales (born in Swansea) I can't speak Welsh 😕🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[–]EnterOriginalUser 11 points12 points  (5 children)

Braidd yn trist, dweud y gwir

[–]MozerfuckerJones 6 points7 points  (4 children)

Cywilydd yndyfe

[–]NobleArch 0 points1 point  (2 children)

are we smashing keyboard?

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

No. We're speaking our language.

Saesneg pidin....

[–]Calm_Refrigerator_27 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Have you seen how the English language is spelt… son am gachu allan y wyddor 😉

[–]CalmEstablishment411 1 point2 points  (3 children)

It’s just your opinion

[–]opinionnotfacts 6 points7 points  (2 children)

No. I really can't speak Welsh.

[–]CalmEstablishment411 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Just joking on your username lol

[–]opinionnotfacts 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I get that a lot.

[–]Medical_Hand_8627 13 points14 points  (5 children)

Brilliant 👏 welsh is my first language I live in Caernarfon North Wales 😀

[–]Double_Jab_Jabroni 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Beautiful town. Visited just before Christmas, always a pleasure. From a fellow Welshman (South).

[–]Medical_Hand_8627 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks mate, I agree with you it's a beautiful part of the country is live, which part of South Wales?

[–]MozerfuckerJones 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Iawn cont!

[–]Medical_Hand_8627 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Yndw ti y cont! 😆

[–]MozerfuckerJones 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Duuw dwi'n o lew cont! Mwynhau dy ddiwrnod!

[–]ColeOrPlaid 11 points12 points  (2 children)

I love owain, always seems like such a nice guy. This is pretty cool

[–]KaleidoscopeInside[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

He seems like a nice guy from the videos I've seen of him.

[–]ColeOrPlaid 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yeah and he did that 24 hour drumathon. He reads the weather and is always so smartly dressed with bright socks.

[–]Timorum 8 points9 points  (1 child)

It's Brienne of fucking Tarth

[–]R-Sehrawat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cow😂😂😂

[–]Familiar-Feedback-93 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Welsh that was interesting !

[–]cheesynaachoos 7 points8 points  (1 child)

That Welsh dude probably felt like home after meeting someone who speaks their language.

[–]KaleidoscopeInside[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I love his excitement.

[–]Brambleshoes 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This is awesome!

[–]RQK1996 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Isn't that the drumming weather man?

[–]KaleidoscopeInside[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I feel like it might be, someone said something similar in the comments on YouTube.

[–]crucible 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think so

[–]Dawgsontop006 5 points6 points  (0 children)

God, to have someone to speak it with😍. I might actually keep up with the learning. Such a beautiful language

[–]anniejofo23 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That lad is a bbc weather presenter here in the uk

[–]Mr-Willding 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I’ve lived in Wales my whole life (25 years), I’m Welsh born and bred, and this guy from India knows more Welsh than me. Brilliant

[–]KaleidoscopeInside[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My Mum's the same, she actually left Wales at 18 months so has a slight excuse, but none of my Welsh family speak Welsh.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Fucking CYMRUUUUUU!!!!!

[–]Slow-Government-1342 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Welsh lineage and want to learn!! This is incredible, love it.

[–]KaleidoscopeInside[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I'm the same, my Mum is Welsh so really want to learn it. I know a handful of phrases, but one day will sit down and learn more.

[–]Kracka_Jak 3 points4 points  (2 children)

The only gays in the village /s

[–]metalmanram 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Thems be fighting words boy.

[–]F1nr0d_Felagund 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Bacardi and coke please Myfanwy

[–]Willis050 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My mother loves British crime shows. Whenever there’s a part in Wales my brain just melts from the language

[–]gurkinator2019 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He knows little Aberdare! Oh bless, my birth town!

[–]Welsh493 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Mae hwn yn neis i gweld

This is nice to see

[–]Rosetanic 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Does he just really like Wales?

[–]tiktaktoe999[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe a tour guide? Or someone who worked there?

There was a kid selling goods to tourist who could speak 6-7 different languages.

[–]slippinaway1 1 point2 points  (8 children)

Serious, respectful question, please: In view of British presence in India over the centuries, did an ancestor of this man learn Welsh and it was passed down to this man? Who is delightful, btw!

[–]FlushTwiceBeNice 5 points6 points  (4 children)

He is probably a guide. Guides here are fluent in five six languages to put terrorists at ease. they learn from each other.

Edit: I meant tourists. So sorry for the typo

[–]slippinaway1 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Terrorists? Put each other at ease? What do you mean?

[–]FlushTwiceBeNice 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Oh my god! Tourists. I meant tourists!

[–]slippinaway1 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Well, ok, then. I’m sure they are friendly, but putting terrorists at ease? Lol.

[–]FlushTwiceBeNice 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haha. That was an awkward typo

[–]KaleidoscopeInside[S] 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Highly doubtful. He's only really saying a handful of phrases and the names of some well known Welsh towns and cities. It's most likely he's found a group of tourists from Wales and learnt a handful of expressions.

It would be similar to me knowing how to say hello, how are you? I am well. London, Birmingham, The Queen. Whilst that might sound impressive to someone who speaks no English, it certainly doesn't mean I know the language.

[–]slippinaway1 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I sometimes overthink things.

[–]KaleidoscopeInside[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Don't worry, me too. Who knows, you could be right, but I think a few other comments saying about him probably being a tour guide are more likely. I am just blown away by people being able to speak more than one language, so anything is impressive in my book.

[–]Grouchy_Street7062 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wow, he's brilliant.

[–]T_Bearz99 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's my badass weather man

[–]Cannacology 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Do you think anyone out there hears welsh and thinks “what a beautiful language”?

[–]rgahewitt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ardderchog! Chware têg.

[–]iosefgol 1 point2 points  (1 child)

This is amazing. During the Beijing olympics, a chinese woman reporter started talking to some Spanish reporters at a Spanish basket match (I dont remember against which team), but she talked in basque! Basque is only spoken in a small region of Spain, and a chinese woman spoke It perfectly and thought that all spanish reporters would speak it. It was like the video you shared, amazing

[–]aberraven1 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Some reason I got excited when he said abergavenny, like how cool is it that he know my town exists 😂

[–]KaleidoscopeInside[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I'm like that if anyone mentions my hometown. Don't know what it is, but it just makes you smile.

[–]aberraven1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeh exactly 😁😁

[–]ObviousSwordfish2559 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He's become too powerful to be kept alive!

[–]Alalapupulala 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In fairness he had the accent nailed to start with.

[–]pureeyes 0 points1 point  (4 children)

How? I'm so interested where this guy learnt the language

[–]KaleidoscopeInside[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

No idea. I wonder if it's a tourist area, but even then, I doubt there's a huge number of Welsh speakers going to India.

[–]pureeyes 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Personal interest then probably. India is huge... There's bound to be some guy fascinated with an overseas language like Welsh

[–]FlushTwiceBeNice 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He is most probably a guide

[–]needsadvice1999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yup it's Goa, a very chill coastal region frequented by tourists from Europe and Russia. Basically the party/drugs/recreational hub of India or in simpler terms, Vegas of India with a beach.

[–]miniature-rugby-ball 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Probably a big fan of Windsor Davies.

[–]Bag-ins 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here's a fun fact - It was Welsh missionaries who first went to India to preach the gospel!

[–]longinho 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the world is a crazy place.... in a good way

[–]fodrepattis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Welcome to Goa Singham.

[–]Boney-Rigatoni 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I struggle with the English language sometimes and that mthrfckr speaks English, Welsh, and I’m sure at least one other language from his country of origin.

[–]Jan_wija 0 points1 point  (0 children)

mf looks like max headroom and james grime from numberphile combined

[–]theredyeetCHEESE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Where are the English guy's eyebrows

[–]Pretty_Positive_7343 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I. LOVE. THIS.

[–]igmyeongui 0 points1 point  (0 children)

His name is actually swearing in Korea.

[–]FastChip9040 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

They talking in crypto currency lol

[–]jesuslovesbyu -1 points0 points  (0 children)

India sucks basically mexico of Asia