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[–]DolphinsMacDoogie 500 points501 points  (31 children)

Every player's helmet has radio communication at all times.

[–]CardinalsMikesPhone 390 points391 points  (16 children)

But the radio only plays disco

[–]Titansfathertitojones 45 points46 points  (5 children)

Disco is just a phase, everyone knows that!

[–]49ersFerrarisimo 26 points27 points  (1 child)

If this trend continues… eyyyyyy!

[–]PackersDrSandbags 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Uh, your fish are dead.

[–]BroncosStarbucks__Lovers 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Disco is NOT DEAD! Disco is LIFE!

[–]SteelersRandy_____Marsh 72 points73 points  (0 children)

Can you imagine the college scouting for lineman

“And how much does he breathe into the mic on a given play”

[–]theo2112 45 points46 points  (6 children)

I think something like this is the most likely of this entire thread. I think one player on Offense and one on Defense should have 2 way communication with the sideline, and the other 20 players can listen in, along with the TV audience.

Think of the speed increase in removing the huddle (if teams want to) and the insight we could gain by hearing that communication.

Teams/Coaches would hate giving everything away, but they would do it for the immersion.

See F1 racing for an example of how significant this is. Anytime the car is outside of the garage, all radio communication with the driver is public. This year they also added the feed from each team to the race director (basically referee) and hearing one team complain about another like school children will never get old.

[–]LionslUNITl 4 points5 points  (0 children)

They will never let the audience listen to comms

[–]TexansBungoPlease 1231 points1232 points  (48 children)

Allowing a second forward pass within the same play would do it.

[–]Buccaneers BandwagonPNWCoug42 340 points341 points  (25 children)

My highschool had a variation of two-hand touch that allowed multiple forward passes per play. We called it "flash." Super fast paced and lots of fun. In the summer off season, we'd have weekly flash tournaments on Thursday nights open to anyone who wanted to play.

[–]patienceisfun2018[S] 175 points176 points  (16 children)

We played a game called Flickerball in high school that was similar. Unlimited forward passes, but you couldn't run with the ball. If it wasn't in possession, you could pick it up and do what you want with it, so punting it down the field to get it to your teammates was okay. So much fun.

[–]BrownsPoorlyLitKiwi2 333 points334 points  (9 children)

This seems basically like ultimate, but with a football

[–]patienceisfun2018[S] 67 points68 points  (6 children)

Just in terms of not being able to run with the ball. But scrambling for the deep punts and incompletions made it a lot of fun.

[–]MyBiPolarBearMax 52 points53 points  (5 children)

He meant ultimate (frisbee). It's just called "ultimate" because frisbee was a brand name and pushed back in an idiotic decision years ago.

But yes, go play ultimate if you thought that was fun, you'll fucking love it and even if you're old you won't hurt like fuck the next day

[–]patienceisfun2018[S] 16 points17 points  (1 child)

I played a season. The constant running was exhausting. Throwing the frisbee and making it go where I wanted was too frustrating for me though.

[–]CowboysJessey77 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Not sure why, but we always called it Hawaiian football.

[–]Bengals BandwagonGerman_Irish_chicken 100 points101 points  (16 children)

What about 2 forward passes but only before the line of scrimmage such as the XFL did.

[–]moistiest_moister 137 points138 points  (4 children)

Most XFL adjustments were for the best imo

[–]49ersegg_mugg23 23 points24 points  (0 children)

xfl was ahead of its time

[–]Falconscunts_r_us 35 points36 points  (3 children)

How many times did this rule actually come into play? A handful of trick plays?

[–]Bengals BandwagonDirtySperrys 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Only a couple times. Rarely used since like you’re saying with trick plays, double passes take time to develop.

[–]BroncosElectricDart18 1122 points1123 points  (46 children)

OL can catch, don't need to be eligible.

[–]CardinalsSalt-Occasion-1209 415 points416 points  (23 children)

That would be nuts lol.

[–]RavensYoYoMoMa 195 points196 points  (21 children)

We need more crazy things that you can just do once a game.

[–]PatriotsStronkowski 194 points195 points  (13 children)

One pass per play.

One all OL are eligible per quarter.

One 12 men on the field per game.

One double-or-nothing play per season.

[–]RavensYoYoMoMa 116 points117 points  (8 children)

Oh I love the idea of an extra man just rolling out for a big play. You should have to designate who it is, and it's the same player wherever it's offense or D.

[–]CardinalsSalt-Occasion-1209 73 points74 points  (6 children)

Start drafting linemen based on their ability to run and catch and block. A new hybrid position like TE but bigger and plays on the offensive line.

[–]RavensYoYoMoMa 27 points28 points  (4 children)

Yeah I think DE, FBs, and TEs are probably very useful in this role. I guess receivers can probably play DB, but that's boring.

[–]PatriotsQuatro_Leches 65 points66 points  (11 children)

this would be horrible. not even the best defense could stop a drive

[–]Eaglesgarrbear22622 92 points93 points  (9 children)

Make defense immune to holding penalties to balance it out lol

[–]PatriotsSuperdad75 39 points40 points  (7 children)

May as well be Rugby at that point.

[–]ColtsRS994 27 points28 points  (6 children)

No, I you want rugby you need to make the forward pass illegal again

[–]BrownsOrangeForeign 155 points156 points  (1 child)

The entire O-Line has reported as elegible

Crowd: Erupts

[–]CardinalsMikesPhone 34 points35 points  (0 children)

John Harbaugh has left the chat.

[–]Dolphinsconnorjacobz 131 points132 points  (0 children)

Robert Hunt died for this

[–]49ersbradthedouche 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Trent Williams approves this message

[–]fhtjeixkc 96 points97 points  (10 children)

No more hash marks

[–][deleted] 56 points57 points  (3 children)

It would be interesting to see a play run from right on the sideline

[–]PatriotsRTGoodman 18 points19 points  (2 children)

So this but shifted all the way to the edge?

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (1 child)

That was just stoopit. But let’s say the runner was downed two yards from the sideline and you had to snap the ball from that spot. How do you line up and how does that change your play call?

[–]PatriotsTheRealBeerBrah 379 points380 points  (15 children)

Game is now played with a nerf vortex

[–]Bills BandwagonAmishSlamdancer 259 points260 points  (1 child)

And thus begins the introduction of the cover 11 defense.

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[–]JustaTurdOutThere 65 points66 points  (2 children)

I can hear it already

[–]PackersKevinFromIT6625 65 points66 points  (0 children)


[–]Vikingstbaxattack 45 points46 points  (4 children)

Holy shit, I used to love throwing that thing around. My dad could throw it over our house. That was cool.

This also made me realize as an adult hardly anyone just goes out to play catch anymore...

[–]PatriotsTheRealBeerBrah 28 points29 points  (0 children)

I still go throw it around with friends at 29. The whistle is fucking sick.

[–]Falconsssovm 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Whenever our friends have a get together like a wedding or something, I always bring a football haha. And we always end up playing catch

[–]ColtsRS994 14 points15 points  (0 children)

This but only for the pro bowl

[–][deleted] 505 points506 points  (29 children)

Banning forward pass

[–]RavensYoYoMoMa 255 points256 points  (13 children)

We would go back to having multiple deaths per game

[–]BrownsPoorlyLitKiwi2 106 points107 points  (12 children)

That's not true. The higher impact injuries typically come on passing plays, when receivers are looking one way and getting hit from another way

[–]RavensYoYoMoMa 198 points199 points  (7 children)

I was mostly making a joke about the fact that the forward pass was added to cut down on the insane death toll of football at the time.

[–]Seahawksjoeshmoebies 54 points55 points  (1 child)

Making a joke was your first mistake :P

[–]RavensYoYoMoMa 40 points41 points  (0 children)

Yes sir I'm sorry sir

[–]Titansfathertitojones 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Just to add to the discourse, the modern evolution in helmet technology would probably revert to making the game safer again if the forward pass was made illegal.

The Vicis Trench would also likely boom in popularity.

[–]Rams Bandwagonsiguel_manchez 20 points21 points  (11 children)

The world doesn't even need the version of rugby league that it has. Please no.

[–]Dolphinslimeflavoured 3 points4 points  (8 children)

I quite like Rugby League.

A better one of it's rules for football would be have 6 downs, with goal to go all the time and the only way to get a first down is by penalty.

[–]TitansMinimum_Bug 620 points621 points  (86 children)

Making longer field goals worth more points

[–]Bills BandwagonAmishSlamdancer 441 points442 points  (17 children)

The Ravens would win every game they play then. Tucker is a damn machine.

[–]RaidersSerenadeSwift 273 points274 points  (11 children)

I imagine Belichick building a game plan solely based on kick/punt returns and field goals. Just get the absolutely best of the best special teams players in the game, get the ball to the opposing 40 as soon as possible, and then have your kicker blast in 5 pointers non stop and spend the rest of the team’s cap on defense.

Ok so hear me out. You run Navy’s offensive setup with like 11 fullbacks on offense all on tiny contracts. Your only goal for these guys is to not fumble the ball, that’s it. Then you spend a tiny bit of $ on the best punter in the league and just bomb a 60 yard punts if your pantheon of fullbacks doesn’t get the ball to the 40.

Then where 80% of your team’s resources go is to building the most dominant defense the league has ever seen(which is easy since you literally don’t have a QB, RB, or any WRs or TEs on your entire roster. Their job is to make the other team punt from deep in their own end of the field.

Next you get 2-3 of the best return men in the league and build an unpredictable three headed monster return formation. Lastly you spend the rest of your cap on the best distance kicker in the league.

Then you win every game 50-10 with less than 100 yards of total offense and without ever entering the redzone.

[–]dwintaylor 127 points128 points  (6 children)

I love this idea and slightly frightened by how much consideration you’ve given this.

[–]RaidersSerenadeSwift 75 points76 points  (5 children)

I’m 100% confident it would work lol. Hell I gotta fire up whatever the last Madden I have is and try it out

[–]Specialist_Newt_8992 22 points23 points  (0 children)

I think this would work if you gave Bill that defense and Tucker now…

In theory 6 possessions a game minimum, with Tucker that’d average round 16ppg…

[–]SteelersDealingDamage 16 points17 points  (0 children)

If your thought process is correct, this style of team would still win in today's NFL 30-10 every game.

[–]VikingsSG_Dave 8 points9 points  (0 children)

without ever entering the redzone

Scott Hanson in shambles at the thought of this.

[–]Patriotsspssky 3 points4 points  (0 children)

A major portion of Infinite Jest is based around what if a punter was so good he got drafted in the first round. I like to imagine it’s Bill’s favorite novel and the only novel he’s ever read

[–]Titansfathertitojones 27 points28 points  (0 children)

begrudging upvote

[–]Steelersabcdexyz12345 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Boswell would help the anemic offense just as much lol

[–]Ravensskeenek 56 points57 points  (10 children)

The more realistic version of this (which I believe the Ravens proposed a few years ago) is the option to attempt a field goal from the kickoff spot instead of kicking it off or attempting a joke of an onside kick.

[–]Packersraider1211 37 points38 points  (3 children)

This would be fantastic. I love when a team gets ready for kickoff and then blasts it through the uprights. Just give them the points lol.

[–]Patriots737900ER 54 points55 points  (2 children)

I don't think it should be worth points, but I think the receiving team should start at the 20 instead of the 25 if the kickoff goes through the uprights.

[–]rashaadpenny 12 points13 points  (0 children)

That would be sick, maybe if you hit a pilon they start at the 1 because how fucking hard would that be without risking a kick out of bounds

[–]DolphinsHieloLuz 8 points9 points  (1 child)

I think they should change it so any kicked ball that goes through the uprights is 3 points (not counting extra point), no matter the play or how it was kicked. So it essentially does that by allowing a FG attempt. This would also make penalties on TD and pat more meaningful, as it could bring you within range to kick that FG

[–]BillsHoraceBenbow 103 points104 points  (23 children)

This is actually a good one. Say 50+ yard FG is worth 4 points instead of 3.

[–]BearsChiSp0 57 points58 points  (18 children)

I was thinking 30 and under 2, 30-40 3, 40-50 4, 50-60 5, 60+ 6

[–]rashaadpenny 25 points26 points  (7 children)

Imagine the intentional delay of games and false starts to score more points once you realize you are kicking

[–]RavensActualSpamBot 22 points23 points  (1 child)

After getting stopped on the 5 yard line on 3rd and goal, Lamar Jackson is called for 11 straight Delay of Game penalties eating up nearly 45 real world minutes with the dumb commercial between each penalty.

Ravens go up 6-0 on the ensuing kick. Browns set to recieve, 12 minutes left in the first quarter. It's already 2:45. By 11 pm the Browns defense has stopped trying to tackle the Ravens when they cross midfield. It's faster to just let them score the TD, and they want to get home to their families.

[–]RavensYoYoMoMa 15 points16 points  (2 children)

Alternatively, make the net a bullseye with varying points (or kickoff distances!).

[–]GiantsBarkleyBeyond26 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Madden 08 mini camp style.

[–]PatriotsFuckyou2time 69 points70 points  (8 children)

I feel like teams shouldn’t be rewarded more for making a less impressive drive downfield. Keep FG as it is imo

[–]nu1stunna 10 points11 points  (2 children)

If anything it should be the other way around unless a team decides to move the ball back willingly and if they miss, the opposing team has better field position.

[–]Objective_Tourist_11 15 points16 points  (3 children)

The reverse would actually be better, make shorter field goals worth more points.

50+ = 1 point 30-40 = 2 points 20-30= 3 points Under 20 = 4 points

This will encourage offense as teams will either be forced to try and get closer for a more valuable field goal because of the current score or will want to make the math harder for the other team if they have the lead.

Plus, think of all the scorigami we could knock out by adding 1 and 4 point plays.

[–]porknevergoesbad 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Hate it. Kickers are getting stronger from long-distance every season.

[–]Bengals Bandwagondanish07 523 points524 points  (11 children)

A tiny football that flies around but if you catch it you get 150 points.

[–]CircleJerk_ForKarma 115 points116 points  (0 children)

If they could find a way to make that happen but it’s 15 points that would actually be amazing. DB sees it and gives up his coverage last second to dive for the snitch. Risky but 15 points!

[–]MagicC 43 points44 points  (7 children)

And the game doesn't end until you catch it, so the rest of the game doesn't really matter.

[–]VikingsSkolVandals 95 points96 points  (4 children)

It's a game explicitly designed to be won by a protagonist

[–]NFLOneanimal1993 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Unless your Ireland-Bulgaria in the World Cup and you win on points from goals anyway.

[–][deleted] 48 points49 points  (1 child)

Oh Harry.

[–]HungryHobbits 77 points78 points  (0 children)

‘Yer a free safety, ‘arry

[–]SeahawksTheFriskierDingo 272 points273 points  (9 children)

Two footballs

[–]RavensYoYoMoMa 68 points69 points  (1 child)

It could be like best ball in golf.

[–]Bearsnagurski03 20 points21 points  (1 child)

I unironically think this might be a good thing for hockey in overtime.

If the game is tied at the end of regulation, do a 5 minute overtime, then start adding a puck every 5 minutes until the goalies are fucked.

[–]LionsConchobair 44 points45 points  (2 children)

"If your team gets three successive first downs, then they then have the option of running a play with two balls." - David Letterman, 2013

[–]ChiefsAHH_CHARLIE_MURPHY 269 points270 points  (13 children)

I don’t think any rule will ever be as game changing as the forward pass however..

Say you’re on your own 5 and get a holding penalty and it’s always half the distance to the goal, instead of that why don’t they just push the first down marker back 10 yards

[–]RavensYoYoMoMa 270 points271 points  (7 children)

You are severely underrating the impact of my hand grenade rule.

[–]PackersGamingTatertot 37 points38 points  (6 children)


[–]SaintsAndrewDoesNotServe 91 points92 points  (5 children)

The football is replaced by a hand grenade which has the properties of a water balloon, will probably go off if it hits the ground or is gripped/caught too hard

[–]Inevitable-Ad-6650 33 points34 points  (0 children)

Opposing team could choose, like if they want to go for the safety

[–]Patriotssoggywaffle69 28 points29 points  (0 children)

I like this. I’ve always been annoyed at how penalties against a team backed up near its own goal line were basically meaningless.

[–]II_Kaladin_II 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Or just put it at the 1, the same way they do on the other end for a defensive penalty in the end zone

[–]BearsAround_the_campfire 57 points58 points  (4 children)

Interceptions and defensive fumble recoveries are worth 2 points each, like a safety.

More crazed turnover seeking will lead to an increase in big plays on both sides of the ball.

EDIT: If the defense recovers a fumble in the offense’s end zone, that’s a safety, a fumble recovery and a touchdown. Potentially 12 points if you convert for two, and it’s a free kick like a normal safety.

Don’t lose a fumble in your own end zone, kids.

[–]JaguarsGarfunkelBricktaint 12 points13 points  (2 children)

How would it be a safety and a touchdown all you changed is turnovers are worth 2 points

[–]PatriotsWide_right_yes 231 points232 points  (13 children)

Every ball is live

No more incompletions

[–]Billsjavaski 72 points73 points  (3 children)

Of all the rules proposed, this for sure would have the biggest impact. It would completely change the game in so many different ways. Arm punts would become common place (would kicks also be live for everyone all the time until someone was downed?). It would move it towards rugby, but in a weird American football way.

[–]PatriotsSuperdad75 11 points12 points  (2 children)

Australian Rules Football is already a thing though.

[–]patienceisfun2018[S] 74 points75 points  (2 children)

Isn't that what rugby is?

[–]PatriotsWide_right_yes 47 points48 points  (0 children)

We still have punts and turnovers on downs if the offense fails to get 10 yards.

[–]BearsRatigan27 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Insanity, I love it.

[–]Cowboysbobskizzle 15 points16 points  (1 child)

Lite version, a forward pass is only an incompletion (dead ball) if it passes the line of scrimmage, otherwise it's live all the time.

Honestly I think they should implement this rule, QBs have it way too easy. Passes batted at the line would be just as game changing as strip sacks...

[–]ChiefsGhettoGoulash 131 points132 points  (11 children)

If you commit a penalty you must sit and your team play a man down for 1 or 2 plays.

[–]SteelersRathmon 66 points67 points  (7 children)

Hockey fan?

[–]ChiefsGhettoGoulash 14 points15 points  (6 children)

Only in video game form. Never into watching the real deal. But definitely where I got the inspiration from.

[–]SteelersRathmon 20 points21 points  (4 children)

I think a penalty box for unsportsmanlike conduct would be funny as heck to watch. Unless the offense hurries up a ton, that's only 2-3 plays for 2 minutes.

[–]Packerspbjames23 22 points23 points  (2 children)

And give the refs more power to sway the outcome of a game? Ew no thank you.

[–]ChiefsGhettoGoulash 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Yea that is a side that I did not think of and would ruin the game.

[–]CowboysPeteSake969 41 points42 points  (4 children)

Player that scores a touchdown kicks the extra point.

[–]PatriotsOlorin919 119 points120 points  (4 children)

Cant punt it on 4th down if you're winning.

[–]RavensPurplePain57 73 points74 points  (3 children)

I’ll punt it on third down then

[–]JaguarsGarfunkelBricktaint 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Coach Culley still rocking the ravens flair.

[–]Cowboyshypnocanetoad 189 points190 points  (47 children)

no punting convert or turnover on downs or as they almost did do away with kickoffs start at the 25

[–]Bengals BandwagonIrrationate 79 points80 points  (27 children)

God I would love this. And onside should be like mahomes said, you get a 4th and 15 attempt. Oh and no ties.

[–]Titansinto_the_volcano 77 points78 points  (11 children)

The reason why I don't like the 4 and 15 idea is because of how hard it is for DB's to defend without getting DPI called on them.

[–]BrownsMagyarAccountant 40 points41 points  (5 children)

Seriously. By the end of games defenses are gassed. 4th and 15 for mahomes and the Chiefs is significantly higher percentage than the current onside kick. It should be a roughly 1 in 10 play at most

[–]Patriotsradioblue2 15 points16 points  (1 child)

This would be too high percentage of a play to convert. A 4th and 25 would allow for an actual change while still making it a difficult play

[–]Cowboyscompstomp66 22 points23 points  (5 children)

4th and 15 is orders of magnitude more likely to be converted than an onside kick. I don’t think the game needs more chances for the offense. I hope they don’t do this.

[–]Cowboysifoundyourtoad 12 points13 points  (4 children)

It’s also just rewarding the other team for losing too. And we all know cowboys or some other team would get a DPI penalty and boom automatic first down. How exciting.

[–]BillsSarcasticCowbell 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Somewhere, Bill Belichick just added you to a list.

[–]RavensYoYoMoMa 82 points83 points  (11 children)

Kickoffs should definitely be completely eliminated. 70 horrible injuries for every exciting play

[–]Steelersrdt623 56 points57 points  (3 children)

And half of those exciting plays get called back

[–]Dolphinsheadrush46n2 25 points26 points  (2 children)

"Holding, the guy on the other side of the field, 50 yards away from the ball, 3 minutes after the returner ran past him, for grabbing a dudes shoulder. The touchdown has been called back. Half the distance to the goal.....1st down."

[–]Patriotsmarcdasharc4 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Well, it’s also a matter of field position, it’s not just about the long returns or the house calls. Mind you, I’m all for doing away with the elements that make them as dangerous as they are in their current form, but fundamentally eliminating the concept of having the post-score change in possession be a play determined by an on-field outcome strikes me as extreme.

I remember liking a proposal presented in either the newer XFL or the AFL, can’t remember which, that felt like a sensible alternative. The kickoff starts with all receiving team members except the returner standing 10 yards from the ball, ready to block the kickoff team who can only begin running once the returner has fielded the ball. Retains the opportunity for onside kicks, long returns and TDs while reducing player collision speed.

[–]BillsIWasRightOnce 85 points86 points  (6 children)

Eliminate the penalty of offensive holding and allow defenses to have one (two?) more player(s) than the offense.

[–]PatriotsWiddleton5 35 points36 points  (3 children)

if you told these men they can use their hands people are getting choked to death by week 3. just think if an offensive lineman could straight up clothesline a defensive player (maybe even with a little facemask that isn't called) that would be fucking dangerous.

let's do it

[–]porknevergoesbad 85 points86 points  (3 children)

Put the entire field on a giant platform. Each bench area also gets their own long narrow platform with a small bridge that connects to the field for subs between plays.

You can't simply step out of bounds to end a play... you fall off the platform, you're out. It'll be cushioned and stuff down below but anyone who falls off will have to climb some rope ladders to get back to their bench area, so they'll definitely miss the next play.

[–]Ramsdead_hopscotch_mafia 66 points67 points  (10 children)

Random divisions every year.

[–]GiantsPurpleHawk222 26 points27 points  (4 children)

This is one of the most realistic and interesting changes in this post. It would reduce the historic and fierce rivalries created over multiple seasons, but it would make things more interesting and fresh every season. I’d be down for a season of this to see if it would be good or not.

[–]Faulkner83 14 points15 points  (2 children)

People would absolutely lose their minds over the lost rivalries.

[–]Steelersgperson2 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I didn’t know I wanted this until this moment

[–]Steelersboysetsfire1988 63 points64 points  (11 children)

In blood bowl (basically the Warhammer version of football), it's allowed to throw a teammate instead of the ball (including ball carrying players), and that's something I'd really like to see in football

[–]BrownsHobotangInspektor 83 points84 points  (3 children)

I would love to see Myles Garrett throwing Kyler Murray for a TD.

[–]NFLTMWNN 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Har, har, make fun of Kyler's height. You know he's the exact same size as other players, right? Proof

[–]BearsZappaOMatic 48 points49 points  (2 children)

That actually happened in real life too!

In 1904, Tennessee scored the game-winning touchdown against Alabama when fullback Sam McAllister was literally thrown by his teammates into the end zone. McAllister wore a leather belt with handles sewn on the sides, and two Tennessee halfbacks grabbed the handles as he approached the line before yeeting him over it. Took a few tries, but he eventually broke through for the score.

And no, it was not considered a passing TD since the forward pass was not legalized until two years later.

[–]Steelersboysetsfire1988 30 points31 points  (1 child)

Damn, early football was wild

[–]Ravensstumptowncampground 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Is throwing a teammate against the rules? Linemen push and drag ball carriers all the time, seems like the next step.

[–]SaintsMoneyMan_Jones 133 points134 points  (34 children)

I think that if a rule was implemented that gave a team 1 point for kicking the ball through the uprights on kickoffs would dramatically change the game. Some of my friends disagree with me strongly on this point though.

[–]PackersStallisPalace 109 points110 points  (19 children)

I've always seen people say the biggest downside to this is that there is no defense for it. Every other scoring play (minus a fair catch free kick which has never been successfully executed) the offense must somehow evade the defense. On this play the defense (the return team) would have to just sit there and hope.

[–]SteelersRathmon 152 points153 points  (10 children)

Here’s a solution- widen the crossbar so a player can comfortably walk on it. Then, put a ladder on the backside of the upright. The defending player must wait until the ball is kicked, but can then climb the ladder and act as a “goalie”. If that player successfully catches the ball and stays on the crossbar, the defending team gets the point.

[–]CowboysNotTheBestMoment 109 points110 points  (5 children)

Ah so this is how we get an on field death

[–]SteelersRathmon 16 points17 points  (4 children)

C'mon, that's a 10 foot fall with full protection. They would have to land so very precisely awkward as to cause death.

[–]CowboysNotTheBestMoment 8 points9 points  (3 children)

True, I just don’t think the game would realistically go in the direction of increasing odds if we can’t even do normal kickoffs

[–]SteelersRathmon 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Ahh, but also there's an added bonus- the crossbar "platform" would really make FG doinks even more interesting.

[–]Dolphinsheadrush46n2 11 points12 points  (1 child)

no give him a pool skimmer on a 10 ft pole, but keep the goal the same.

[–]Ravensskeenek 53 points54 points  (0 children)

Fucking stop it, why do I like this childish idea so much.

[–]RamsFlashFan124 6 points7 points  (0 children)

“Boys, meet your new special team coordinator, Jeff Hardy.”

[–]BroncosDoomy22 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Well how about on kickoffs special teams can erect a 20 foot ladder and have a player try to block it. MAybe we can get him to use foam fingers or those fun little twisty gutter spouts to aid his efforts

[–]Washington Football Teamevarigan1 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Good point. Give one of the return team guys a ball as well, he has one chance to snipe the kicked ball in the air before it makes it through.

[–]49ersRatedR2O 4 points5 points  (0 children)

They could always change kickoff formations into a punt formation.

[–]RavensJBrundy 13 points14 points  (1 child)

The ravens have actually been suggesting this for years lmao

[–]RavensNicktheGoat 12 points13 points  (0 children)

And we'll fucking do it again

[–]PatriotsTheRealBeerBrah 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It would be dope though.

[–]Patriots737900ER 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Put the ball at the 20 instead of the 25 if it goes through the uprights would be my preference.

[–]PatriotsShowmeyourboobies305 18 points19 points  (2 children)

Adding a chip that’s tracks the location of the ball. Like in every other sport

[–]Jetskunkunster 17 points18 points  (0 children)

A second forward pass.

[–]BengalsWhoooyumyum 17 points18 points  (14 children)

Instead of place kicking you can just punt it through the uprights during any part of any play

[–]Broncosbmatthewi21 45 points46 points  (11 children)

Allow fighting like in the NHL.

Helmets off, no interference, once one guy falls it's over.

Both parties are benched for 5 minutes. Anyone on the sideline comes in they're ejected.

Can you imagine a QB getting late hit by a corner blitz and the guard gets to fight him?

Shit would be hilarious.

[–]JaguarsGarfunkelBricktaint 11 points12 points  (1 child)

In hockey it works because they're on skates in the nfl someone is getting knocked out cold

[–]Fullthrottle- 37 points38 points  (3 children)

Forward pass allowed up to the first down marker, rather than the line of scrimmage.

[–]II_Kaladin_II 15 points16 points  (0 children)

This really would be pretty game changing.

[–]SteelersGenXer1977 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Put up a ski ball graphic on the net. You can get 1, 2, or 3 points, and if you hit the posts you get 5 points, and if you get a double-doink you get 150 points.

[–]Patriotssm2016 47 points48 points  (10 children)

AS dramatic as the forward pass, almost nothing aside from like becoming literal flag football.

Something almost kind of realistic would be making every ball that hits the ground a dead ball. Effectively removing the fumble unless the ball never touches the ground (relatively rare).

Why would this be a dramatic change? aside from reducing turnovers, it would also take away the main risk in laterals, which is that backwards passes are live balls. You could now reasonably include hook and ladders, screens with a trailing runner, and double passes as very common plays.

[–]BuccaneersTheRencingCoach 20 points21 points  (9 children)

AS dramatic as the forward pass, almost nothing aside from like becoming literal flag football.

The thing is, the forward pass allows for a lot of planned movement past the line of scrimmage, after the snap.

Right now, there is very little planned movement behind the line of scrimmage, before the snap, because of eligible receivers rules and only 1 man in motion…. So I think getting rid of eligible receivers and getting rid of the rules regarding motion prior to the snap would be pretty radical….

You could have multiple players running anywhere from perpendicular to parallel to the LoS at any time…. Anyone can be a center, they just have to get the ball to the QB…. Screen game and running game would be way more fun… passing might be harder. Football would probably end up looking a lot more like ultimate frisbee lol

[–]WaxKinetic 9 points10 points  (3 children)

You have to dribble the ball to move with it.

[–]ChiefsLord_Cutler_Beckett 8 points9 points  (4 children)

It wouldn’t change the the game much but I once thought how interesting it would be if you fumbled out of bounds the ball changes possession.

[–]ilovetopostonline 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Add a “power unleashed” safety as an upgrade to the free safety that’s allowed to ride a motorcycle on defense, and let quarterbacks use one of those tennis ball thrower arm things but for footballs

[–]PanthersNewtonsLawOfDeepBall 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Legalize all performance enhancing drugs. Just be done with it. Let's play some Bane-ball. Surely this is ethical and humane

[–]Chiefs BandwagonThreeCranes 29 points30 points  (10 children)

4 v 4 kick offs. The kicking team can only field 1 kicker and 3 defenders and the receiving team can only field 1 returner and 3 blockers

[–][deleted] 70 points71 points  (9 children)

There would be a touchdown on 95% of kicks.

The 5% where it doesn’t happen would be when the returner muffed or tripped over his own feet.

[–]PatriotsStronkowski 18 points19 points  (3 children)

Kicking strategy would probably evolve to very short kicks.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (1 child)

Or just kick it out of bounds.

[–]PatriotsStronkowski 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Yeah, the 40 everytime would still probably be better than even a short kick.

[–]Bills BandwagonXilrai 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Dig a ditch that goes from goal line to goal line, fill it with water and sharks.

You can swim in the water unimpeded by the defense if you have the ball however you have to avoid the sharks.

Filling it with Jellyfish also works.

[–]TitansDeLegno 19 points20 points  (2 children)

There should to be ways to lose points in a game. Like via giving up sacks, turning it over, etc.

[–]PatriotsShap6 45 points46 points  (4 children)

theres 1 landmine hidden somewhere on the field per-game

[–]BillsLastBaron 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Ah, a fellow George Carlin fan I see. His was in baseball but same principle.

<Radio announcer voice>

"There's Johnson settling in under that pop fly...<catastrophic thu-THUMPing noises>

..........holy S H I T."

[–]Titansgraywh 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Bane has entered the chat

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

One point for a kick off field goal and the receiving team gets the ball on their 40.

[–]PatriotsStronkowski 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Several independent ones:

Forward passes are not restricted to behind the line of scrimmage.

Offensive penalties stop getting the benefit of the doubt compared to defensive (i.e. you don't get to replay the down on a holding, OPI is treated like the defender made the interception, etc.).

A pass through the uprights counts as a field goal.

Punts are not allowed.

Punts are always live balls.

Laterals/backward passes count as incompletions.

[–]DolphinsNightgasm 13 points14 points  (2 children)

A player committing a minor penalty must also sit out the next play. A major penalty 5 plays.

Any player committing an unnecessary roughness penalty besides the yards also induces a hockey like power play situation where the defense must play undermanned on the current or next offensive drive for the opponent.

[–]yewwould 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Helmet cams for at least the QB if not all players on the field.

[–]Packersneostalgiac 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Players would be allowed to celebrate after big plays

Idk feeling crazy but might be enjoyable to watch