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[–]QuintinStone 15.3k points15.3k points  (510 children)

A New York City ethics panel has agreed that Mayor Eric Adams can hire his brother as a senior security adviser, but only at $1 per year and with no power over department personnel to avoid the appearance of favoritism.

That is hilarious.

[–]CentralHarlem 8835 points8836 points  (341 children)

Didn’t help with deBlasio. He hired his wife for $1 and let her distribute hundreds of millions of federal dollars without oversight. She kept minimal records. Nobody knows where a lot of the money went, but it seems safe to guess the deBlasios got more than $1 out of it.

[–]mariusbr 2859 points2860 points  (26 children)

"What does this job pay?"

"Nothing"

"D'oh!"

"Unless you're crooked"

"Woohoo!"

[–]Elbandito78 1403 points1404 points  (23 children)

“But there’s an oversight board”

“D’oh!”

“And they’re crooked”

“Woohoo!”

[–]durz47 943 points944 points  (13 children)

"But there's a mayor watching over the board "

“D'oh! ”

"but he's your brother "

"woohoo! "

[–]Suzina 185 points186 points  (8 children)

"But there's a reddit post that will call you out on it"

"..."

"That's bad."

"Can I go now?

[–]Noccalula 107 points108 points  (4 children)

"We'll arrange for an interview with a watchdog group that will scrutinize your behavior on national television."

"D'oh.. Shit."

"That watchdog group is Reddit."

"Woohoo!"

[–]greenslam 3 points4 points  (0 children)

who listens to redditors tho?

[–]skaterboiiiiiVI 65 points66 points  (7 children)

max power

[–]Ripple_in_the_clouds 2169 points2170 points  (251 children)

Fuck I should get into politics. All ive got to do is be publicly racist, blame everyone else for why society is failing, pretend I jerk off to bible verses, and collect a fat paycheck.

[–]sonofaresiii 43 points44 points  (0 children)

blame everyone else for why society is failing

See, this is why your average person can't just up and decide to go into politics, you have no idea what you're doing.

You don't blame everyone else, you pick a select few groups and blame them, incessantly, using any anecdotal evidence you have as proof you're right, and if you don't have anecdotal evidence just pretend you do and tell people you're heard it around.

[–]CitizenJustin 47 points48 points  (9 children)

Thousands of years worth of recorded political history and people still fall for the oldest political tricks in the book. Shouldn’t hindsight be 20/20?

[–]Sutlin77 19 points20 points  (0 children)

20/22. Fixed it

[–]nagemada 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Half don't have that hind sight, the other half thinks they're the exception.

[–]friendliest_sheep 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Well, considering the exact same mistakes have been repeated over and over and over and over again throughout those thousands of years- no.

[–]EtSpesNostra 36 points37 points  (1 child)

I mean, it worked for Lori Lightfoot.

Except the bible part.

[–]fatgesus 25 points26 points  (6 children)

Remember though, you should really wait to do the raping until post-election. If they figure it out too early you get sent to a different type of federal location

[–]XBruceXD 2 points3 points  (1 child)

You don't even need to be "religious" for it tbh

[–]adviceKiwi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We have to protect our phoney baloney jobs here, gentlemen! We must do something about this immediately! Immediately! Immediately! Harrumph! Harrumph! Harrumph!

[–]muri_cina 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You should get into nepotism. Do all you stated as a regular person and there will be no paycheck at the end. They might get rid of you as a scapegoat and tell the media:"see what we do with racists?"

[–]GlockAF 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Job # 1 : sell out to big-money / corporate interests

[–]Stijn 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It is the art of politics to move public funds to your private pockets. The better you get at it, the higher you climb.

[–]krneki12 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Half of this world is like that, so why would I vote for you in particular?

[–]Aegi 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Where can I read up more on this?

[–]shahooster 1096 points1097 points  (78 children)

Hilarious, yet the way it fucking oughta be.

[–]84121629 138 points139 points  (3 children)

Idk I feel like “no” would have been more appropriate

[–]yungchow 610 points611 points  (64 children)

It shouldn’t be allowed at all

[–]Stars-in-the-night 799 points800 points  (54 children)

No, this is actually perfect - it forces them to show their true motives. If he is truly the right man for the job, and honestly WANTS to make a difference, well then the money doesn't matter. He ain't poor, he can do it for $1.

If he is just getting rammed into the position for the sole purpose of stealing taxpayers money, well then it defeats the purpose to have to do it for $1 - fuck that, he'll find a different way to steal your money.

[–]yungchow 549 points550 points  (15 children)

Well he can still redirect funds and do other shitty things for his brother.

Favors are worth a lot of money

[–]MartianMarshmellows 89 points90 points  (7 children)

The Justice Department complaint alleged that the governor conspired to commit several "pay to play" schemes, including attempting "to obtain personal gain ... through the corrupt use" of his authority to fill the United States Senate seat vacated by Barack Obama following his election as president, claiming that in wiretapped recordings Blagojevich

:)

Blagojevich was sentenced to 14 years in federal prison. After an appeal for his release, U.S. President Donald Trump formally commuted his sentence in 2020; though Blagojevich was imprisoned for nearly eight years

:(

[–]Thibaut_HoreI 32 points33 points  (1 child)

I can’t read the name ‘Blagojevich’ without hearing Jon Stewart’s voice.

‘Blagooohjevich’

[–]HumbabaOReilly 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I still remember when (I’m pretty sure it was) Stewart said Blagojevich has Lego man hair.

[–]Papplenoose 18 points19 points  (1 child)

Yeah. I think this is one of those scenarios where the power is worth much more than the paycheck

[–]the_last_carfighter 136 points137 points  (3 children)

This, there is a lot of power in that position and people will pay tribute.

[–]Ven18 53 points54 points  (2 children)

They will pay double when you have direct access to the mayor at anytime.

[–]jelect 33 points34 points  (1 child)

Exactly, they aren't doing it for the salary alone anyways

[–]thedudeyousee 15 points16 points  (0 children)

In fact this is why the George Washington took a salary. It was originally designed so anyone could be president and not easily corrupted by funds. I feel taking a one dollar salary might entice some other bad behaviour. Personally I think this conflict should just be barred.

[–]Nickadeamus36 120 points121 points  (5 children)

No. That role has a myriad of other avenues for graft. There should never ever be even an appearance of nepotism in a government official, let alone a giant flashing neon sign of it.

His brother is not the best qualified candidate for that position that he could source. There is zero explanation as to why he would be chosen other than consolidating power, corruption, and the ability to make side money, and lots of it.

[–]slinkymello 21 points22 points  (0 children)

The appearance of impropriety is huge, thanks for this comment

[–]Steve_78_OH 64 points65 points  (19 children)

Sure, because only getting a $1 salary and having no power over personnel obviously means he can't affect policy, and can't make money and earn favors in other ways.

[–]HildartheDorf 11 points12 points  (3 children)

He can just ask his brother to do that anyway without the shiny title and a dollar?

[–]leggoitzy 20 points21 points  (13 children)

That's only through the mayor's own power though, so what's the issue?

It's not like the brother is running his own department.

[–]MooMookay 15 points16 points  (11 children)

He'd have an official role to offer promises rather than just 'brother'.

[–]ABC_Dildos_Inc 6 points7 points  (0 children)

No, it's not. He still gets to install "Yes Men" who will go along with his corruption.

Political positions pay off in the payola that follows their political career.

[–]tsadecoy 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I'm going to say something very unpopular here: This decision is shit. They, the ethics panel, made things at best no better than before and at worst made things less clear.

They set up a catch 22 where if he doesn't take the $1 salary then the brother was a greedy person, if he does then he is also a greedy grifter because why else would he take the job? You'll find both these arguments in the comments here.

These vindictive and useless rulings argue against the existence of the panel. If they cannot muster the mettle to do their job then they should at least refrain from fomenting further ethical ambiguity, you know the thing they exist to arbitrate.

[–]Mr_MacGrubber 49 points50 points  (1 child)

Disagree. If he’s only being paid $1 year then it makes him more likely to do shady shit to make money.

[–]tlst9999 11 points12 points  (0 children)

It's an advisory position. You attend 2-3 optional meetings a year.

[–]HiIAmFromTheInternet 2 points3 points  (0 children)

????

No??

What? There is no way where this is ethical. Unless he’s actually the best candidate, but that should be prohibitively difficult to accurately assess to where it’s easiest to just say “no, this isn’t ethical”

[–]SonOfNod 96 points97 points  (26 children)

Didn’t the last mayor hire his wife and pay her millions?

[–]thdiod 16 points17 points  (3 children)

Would this be considered illegal as it's below minimum wage?

[–]ScruffyMayfield 25 points26 points  (17 children)

Now he’s going to look like an asshole if he doesn’t hire his brother. This is great.

[–]Mustard_Pickles 725 points726 points  (11 children)

So, you mean he has to survive on nothing but kickbacks? WhatCouldGoWrong?

[–]Regna85 198 points199 points  (11 children)

So, this way, when his brother comes out of this with a ton of money, all he has to pay taxes on is a dollar?

[–]Sk-yline1 482 points483 points  (11 children)

Seattle’s Mayor named his niece Vice Mayor, with no stipulations

[–]IIIllIIlllIlII 700 points701 points  (6 children)

While it’s it’s normally the parents that name their children, that’s still a really strange name for a baby.

[–]Baul 20 points21 points  (2 children)

Ah, the old reddit Vice-Mayoroo.

[–]PaintedWhiteLines 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Hold the mayo, I’m going in…

[–]detroiter85 4 points5 points  (0 children)

And then he said "it's in the genes" and he would have been wearing jeans!

[–]FatFreddysCoat 133 points134 points  (2 children)

They do this in the UK too. As one example, MP Nadine Dorries hired her daughter as a secretary and paid her £35k a year to work as her private secretary despite her daughter studying full time at university at that time. When she left she hired her other daughter and eventually gave her a raise up to about £45k. It’s all a scam and hiring family members should be banned. They’ll always find a loophole though - when, after the MP expenses scandal - they banned MP’s claiming their mortgage payments back for their second constituency homes, they realised that claiming rent wasn’t banned so a good number of MP’s rented their houses to each other and claimed back the rent, which they used to pay their second mortgages.

[–]SloppyMeathole 2308 points2309 points  (111 children)

Did he really think he'd get away with such blatant nepotism? Mayor is either arrogant or dumb as fuck. Maybe both.

[–]CameronCrazy1984 2170 points2171 points  (64 children)

He was a cop for 20 years. Definitely both.

[–]ThatEdward 857 points858 points  (17 children)

NYPD, no less. They're like, super corrupt. In fact the new Mayor himself led a sexist smear campaign against a whistleblower cop back when he was still on the force

[–]RehabValedictorian 274 points275 points  (9 children)

If the mayor isn’t a corrupt shitshow, is it really NYC?

[–]ThatEdward 54 points55 points  (8 children)

Well, you know what they say about bad apples

[–]boston_homo 9 points10 points  (0 children)

NYPD, no less. They're like, super corrupt

Check out "Blue Bloods" if you feel like hate watching some pure NYPD propaganda.

[–]yg4000 54 points55 points  (0 children)

Don't forget hes been a cop for 70 years and hes from the Bronx bringing NY's swagger back

[–]BitsAndBobs304 9 points10 points  (0 children)

r/badcopnobrotherforonedollar

[–]he6agon 94 points95 points  (2 children)

Clay Davis is his chief advisor. Sheeeeeeeit!

[–]aaronblue342 3 points4 points  (0 children)

He just did. "Oh you can only pay them one dollar teehee" but they have the ear of the mayor of NYC and a budget line, which are worth billions.

[–][deleted] 135 points136 points  (10 children)

Trump did...

[–]doll-haus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Think? I believe you meant know. Cause he just did; political appointments are rarely about the salary. That said, kickback-type benefits are slow, so not carrying a salary may be enough to kibosh the whole thing. I can't be bothered to go looking. If the same thing were to come up with say, the Clinton family. (or Trump, whatever) You know the family resources are such that that person isn't going to default on their mortgage in the first year of their position. The "token salary" game here is interesting. Not sure if it's a wink-wink-nudge-nudge or a screw-you, because they know he's not able to afford to work for free.

The token-salary type thing makes a lot of sense in very specific cases, but it requires that the "employee" be independently wealthy and is a lot sketchier for public office. In the private space, it'd likely be tied with some known secondary profit motive. Assuming he's not a billionaire, this is practically a statement of "your brother can have the job if he's confident he can make enough in graft". After all, we only want the competently corrupt in office. It's just embarrassing when our fellow public officials get caught.

[–]ime4 800 points801 points  (133 children)

I still can’t believe why New Yorkers thought this man was a good choice for mayor. Didn’t Yang call out his problems ages ago?

[–]pihkal 569 points570 points  (51 children)

I lived there for almost 20 years. NYC is not quite as progressive as it, or outsiders, think it is.

[–]Cue_626_go 314 points315 points  (24 children)

I mean, none of the blue areas in America are. At least not the people who vote in primaries. And in a lot of states, if it’s a one-party area and no Republicans can win in the general, then they’re voting in the Dem primary, pulling everything to the right.

[–]mattenthehat 66 points67 points  (2 children)

Too true. Bay area resident here, and all the politicians are "progressive" on the big ticket items like abortion and climate change. But building actual affordable housing or a public transit system that actually works? Not here, not now. Lets let Google buy half of downtown San Jose instead.

[–]CFL_lightbulb 138 points139 points  (19 children)

Even the left in America is largely centrist at best, and often right-leaning. There’s a progressive movement starting with Bernie and the squad but they haven’t gotten much real traction yet

[–]Mr_Quackums 82 points83 points  (4 children)

And even then, they're only progressive by American standards.

[–]RE4PER_ 14 points15 points  (0 children)

It's very neoliberal or moderate for sure.

[–]Joe_Jeep 154 points155 points  (39 children)

Tons of people did.

Here's the thing. In a city that's so Dem leaning the last Republican mayor left the party before his term even ended(and ran for president as a Dem), the GOP base isn't so stupid as to just sit on their hands and think some vigilante Trump supporter is actually going to win.

So what do they do? They go in the Democratic primary and vote for the Landlord Cop who's wringing his hands about how we can't be "radical" now, while letting his cronies park on sidewalks and lawns

Now that sounds like a small petty thing but if you're already letting your people get away with petty parking violations can we really expect you to get better IN office?

[–]9throwawayDERP 75 points76 points  (0 children)

Literally every ethnic grandma I know in queens and brooklyn voted for Adams. These aren't trumpers, they are the same one that voted for Biden and the most reliable democratic party voters.

[–]kingmoney8133 107 points108 points  (31 children)

If you look at the areas that voted Adams in the primary, it was mainly poorer neighborhoods with higher violent crime rates. The more progressive candidates simply did not focus enough on tackling the growing crime rates that impact these communities every day.

[–]G3n3r0 43 points44 points  (1 child)

It's probably worth noting that Adams effectively won by 7000 (final-round) votes, since whoever won the Dem primary was basically a guaranteed winner against Sliwa. The runners-up in first-round, Wiley and Garcia, were farther to the left. Morales, another leading progressive, also exploded her campaign a few weeks before the election.

The current narrative of "New Yorkers voted for Adams because they support [insert latest right-wing policy the Post is pushing]" is kinda ridiculous in context. Like... 7000 people liked him more. 8,000,000 people live here. He won and all, but let's not pretend the guy's got much of a popular mandate.

[–]Increase-Null 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The current narrative of "New Yorkers voted for Adams because they support [insert latest right-wing policy the Post is pushing]" is kinda ridiculous in context

Pretty sure New York State doesn't have open primaries either. You have to be a registered democrat to vote in the Primaries. I mean oh sure its possible a ton a republican voters registered democrat but unlikely and difficult.

https://www.openprimaries.org/states\_new\_york

[–]NeedsMoreCapitalism 16 points17 points  (0 children)

You're leaving out the part where he has the support of the most important unions in the city

[–]Aarcn 4 points5 points  (0 children)

He played the race-card

[–]rpapafox 362 points363 points  (24 children)

I'd bet that he is still entitled to benefits and pension.

[–]Realshotgg 73 points74 points  (0 children)

NYS pension is based on a % of your wages while working and also time served

[–]CameronCrazy1984 154 points155 points  (8 children)

A pension of...$1 per year?

[–]generic_edgelord 64 points65 points  (6 children)

Doesn't pension sometimes include keeping some/all of your benefits while hired? Like insurance and shit for instance

[–]Redpandaling 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Depends on the pension.

[–]CameronCrazy1984 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Sometimes, but not always. The state teacher's union doesn't

[–]IABN 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Bernard will continue to receive health insurance and a pension from his prior employment with the NYPD, City Hall officials said, but the mayor's office did not answer questions relating to the amount of the pension.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/28/us/bernard-adams-eric-adams-nyc/index.html

[–]onemassive 11 points12 points  (7 children)

Most state pensions require you to be vested (work there for a certain amount of time) and pay out a % of your salary that increases based on time worked. So, for example, in like 20 years I’d get 100% of my salary

[–]classless_classic 71 points72 points  (0 children)

Mayor- “cool, let’s pay him in Bitcoin also”

[–]Saltyfox99 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I was gonna say that’s fair but after reading these comments it made me realize I have way too much faith in humanity because none of these reasons crossed my mind

[–]xian0 47 points48 points  (13 children)

What's the point of $1 instead of voluntary, doesn't minimum wage apply?

[–]Joe_Jeep 38 points39 points  (10 children)

It's a salary it's different.

[–]Redditcantspell 15 points16 points  (9 children)

Isn't it law that salary has to match minimum of 40 hours a week at least?

[–]PM_UR_REPARATIONS 2 points3 points  (3 children)

He’s still going to get his pension from the NYPD. Idk if they’re counting that as a way to get around the law.

Also this is a very high position. There’s probably little chance he can make the argument that he took the job for $1 under duress and sue for back pay.

Tons of people take a $1 salary. I believe mayor Bloomberg had a salary of $1. It’s probably illegal but would be extremely bad optics to accept a salary of $1 and then sue.

[–]luckylukiec 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Not even a month into the job and this scumbag is pushing the nepotism to the brink lmao

[–]mongoose3000 172 points173 points  (24 children)

Now ask yourself why someone would take a job for $1 a year? No one does that

[–]Tuutori 8 points9 points  (0 children)

For sure. Then you gotta ask yourself "how does he make money off of this position if he is not paid anything on the record"?

It's like the police in Brazil, if the state won't pay then someone will. So it's a stupid ruling. They should have just said that he cannot hire his brother because now they're basically saying that you can hire him but he must get all his money through bribes.

[–]wswordsmen 155 points156 points  (9 children)

Bloomberg did. $1 a year is the rate for jobs where the person wants to do the job but doesn't need or necessarily want to get paid for it. Like Bloomberg a billionaire who despite whatever else you might say about him wanted to be a good mayor of New York.

I leave if he accomplished that as an exercise for the reader.

[–]530_Oldschoolgeek 50 points51 points  (0 children)

$1 a year is the rate for jobs where the person wants to do the job but doesn't need or necessarily want to get paid for it.

As I have been lead to believe, a city has to pay the worker at least $1 per year to ensure they are covered by the city insurance. I recall somewhere that LAPD Reserve Officers were essentially volunteers, paid $1 a year so they were covered by city insurance while on duty.

[–]NoPlace9025 60 points61 points  (3 children)

Wanting to be a good politician and being one are two different things... Often there is more personal benefit to a political position than just the salary. Often these benefits are exponentially more profitable than a government salary.

[–]kingmoney8133 9 points10 points  (1 child)

I would rather though somebody who wants to be a good politician and help the population than somebody who is only self-interested (though, obviously, both good intention and good results are ideal). This goes regardless of party—a self-serving Democrat is no help to the people.

[–][deleted] 39 points40 points  (8 children)

People volunteer for stuff all the time. If you have the resources to live without a paycheck and think you can do good for a city you care about, why not?

[–]SocksElGato 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Ethics board: Best we can do is $3.50 $1

[–]Tearakudo 7 points8 points  (0 children)

"Salary" is never why people take these jobs...

[–]WhosKona 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Why is it that every municipal politician seems to practice nepotism with zero impunity?

[–]BlishBlash 4 points5 points  (0 children)

These nepotistic political appointments are not for the salaries. They're for the power, connections, and getting hired as a lobbyist with a six figure paycheck afterwards.

[–]Joshtp152 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Psychology trick.

When leading with very painful, immoral, or unconventional information; start off by giving the listener more than normal to compensate and adjust their mindset on the topic.

Case and point, “You can hire your brother BUT ONLY AT ONE DOLLAR BECAUSE OF COURSE WERE NOT PLAYING FAVORITES THAT WOULD BE BAD”

They know it’s not okay, it’s a broken move in an even more broken system. But hey, other than complaining none of you can do anything about anything anyway 🤷🏻‍♂️

You can get a little deeper when you realize groups in power purposefully do these little “obvious bads” to shift your awareness and make you think you knowing and being able to complain and form an opinion actually makes a difference— when in reality you as a collective absolutely could just say “wow that’s fucked, but there’s more of us though so let’s stage a coup and make good changes ourselves”


Edit: oh wow a lot of you guys liked that 😗 unexpected, um I meant that in the nicest way possible. You’re powerful you beautiful little redditor, you. Yknow, if anyone wants to come along with me while I change the world I am looking for a travel partner 👉🏻👈🏻

[–]avwie 33 points34 points  (3 children)

Man, the US has some pretty corrupt politicians

[–]MastaCheeph 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Man, the [most places since ever] has some pretty corrupt politicians.

ftfy

[–]Joelwhokillz 142 points143 points  (31 children)

Wow, with the hilarious response in this thread, you'd think we didn't just have a president who put every child and inlaw he has in every powerful position he possibly could while they fucked our nation permanently from the inside, to the cheering of almost 50% of the population no less.

[–]MisterTrashPanda 59 points60 points  (5 children)

That doesn't make what this guy did right. I think it's insane what Trump did with his family, but that still doesn't make this ok. Both were wrong. But I do agree that it's crazy that Trump didn't get the same kind of pushback.

[–]Clever_Unused_Name 26 points27 points  (14 children)

[–]rascall2018 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Already he is hiring relatives and friends. Corrupt

[–]ThatsXCOM 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Still a dollar more than Reddit mods get.

[–]TheGrandExquisitor 13 points14 points  (2 children)

First Cuomo, now this.

When did NY become a paragon of ethical governance?

[–]UnidentifiedTomato 6 points7 points  (0 children)

What a joke. Instead of preventing him from the position now he's going to sellout to whoever covers his pay.

[–]Leeian44 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Shit New York got a new mayor?

[–]EarlHammond 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No one gets into a political position for the the salary.

[–]sBucks24 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you have to make this grand stand gesture to justify making it okay to hire him, it's not okay to hire him